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Hillary Clinton Mellencamp Calls Obama Remarks 'Elitist'; Obama Admits Less-Than-Eloquence
April 12, 2008 12:16 PM
At an event today in Indianapolis, Ind., that featured the recorded musical stylings of John Mellencamp playing "Small Town," Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., hammered the "small town" remarks of Sen. Barack Oama, D-Ill., as "elitist and they’re out of touch."
The comments, Clinton said per ABC News' Eloise Harper, are "not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans, certainty not the Americans I know, not the Americas I grew up with, not the Americans I lived with in Arkansas or represent in New York.”
Clinton said "Americans who believe in the Second Amendment believe it's a matter of Constitutional rights. Americans who believe in God believe it is a matter of personal faith. Americans who believe in protecting good American jobs believe it is a matter of the American Dream."
Clinton said she "grew up in a church-going family, a family that believed in the importance of living out and expressing our faith. The people of faith I know don't 'cling to' religion because they're bitter. People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich. Our faith is the faith of our parents and our grandparents. It is a fundamental expression of who we are and what we believe.
"I also disagree with Senator Obama's assertion that people in this country 'cling to guns' and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt -- and they enjoy doing so because it's an important part of their life, not because they are bitter. And as I've traveled across Indiana and I've talked to a lot of people; what I hear are real concerns about unfair trade practices that cost people jobs. I think hardworking Americans are right to want to see changes in our trade laws. That's what I have said. That's what I have fought for. I would also point out that the vast majority of working Americans reject anti-immigration rhetoric. They want reform so that we remain a nation of immigrants, but also a nation of laws that we enforce and we enforce fairly."
Clinton said "if we are striving to bring people together -- and I believe we should be -- I don't think it helps to divide our country into one America that is enlightened and one that is not...People don't need a president who looks down on them; they need a president who stands up for them...if you want to be the president of all Americans, you need to respect all Americans. And that starts with respecting our hardworking Americans."
You can watch Clinton's remarks HERE.
Obama, for his part, at a town hall meeting in Muncie, Ind. took some time to attempt damage control.
Watch his comments HERE.
“Lately there has been a little typical sort of political flare-up because I said something that everybody knows is true, which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana, in my hometown in Illinois who are bitter," Obama said, per ABC News' Sunlen Miller. "They are angry. They feel like they have been left behind. They feel like nobody is paying attention to what they’re going through. So I said, well you know when you’re bitter you turn to what you can count on. So people, they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community.
“And they get mad about illegal immigrants who are coming over to this country or they get frustrated about you know how things are changing. That’s a natural response."
Obama acknowledged that "I didn’t say it as well as I should have because you know the truth is that these traditions that are passed on from generation to generation, those are important. That’s what sustains us. But what is absolutely true is that people don’t feel like they are being listened to.
“And so they pray and they count on each other and they count on their families. You know this in your own lives and what we need is a government that is actually paying attention. Government that is fighting for working people day in and day out making sure that we are trying to allow them to live out the American dream. And that’s what this campaign is about. We’ve got to get past the divisions. We’ve got to get past the distractions of our politics and fight for each other.
“That is why I am running for president of the United States. And I think we’ve got an opportunity to bring about that change right here and right now. But I’m gonna need your help Indiana. I’m gonna need your help.”
What do you think?
- jpt
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We in PA let Obama know that he can't put us down and still expect us to vote for him.
This guy is a phony. He is bluffing his way through and all the stupid people are buying his crap.
Posted by: Jennifer | Apr 23, 2008 12:09:35 PM
The Senator from New York, no matter how much she pretends to be a working class hero is the epitome of an ultra elite. By pretending otherwise she affirms her world -class hypocrisy. Liar yes. Of the people no.
I doubt Mellencamp approves of her highness using his song.
Posted by: moondancer | Apr 14, 2008 8:55:44 PM
The question of Obamas "elitism" cannot be addressed by answering the question of whether folks in PA are "bitter" or not "bitter. Some are (and some aren't) like everywhere else.
It also cannot be addressed by answering the question(s) of whether some people turn to religion or hunting to comfort them in hard times or whether they blame immigrants, "people unlike them" or Nafta for their plight when they have lost jobs and are suffering economic hardship
Obviously, all of these coping mechanisms are possible when people are under stress- but there is reason to question the validity of Obamas condescending explanation for their coping this way- which is that they blame foreigners, immigrants or Nafta to "explain their frustration only because they are incapable of seeing the real culprit- (which, to Obamas way of thinking is the Washington-that- is)
I think it is entirely possible for people to feel upset with their Government's inaction and, at the same time, feel upset with illegal immigrnats who are taking their jobs and upset with legislation that may be contributing to their job loss.
Obamas attempt to attribute rural pennsylvanians feelings and behavior to ONE underlying cause (the failure of existing Gov't to address their problems) is obviously self-serving since, if true (and if he could only convince rural pennsylvanians of the accuracy of his hypothesis)-- they would vote for him!
Obama's elitism, however, is most clearly demonstrated- not by the truth or untruth of his statements about rural pennsylvanians -but by his pseudo-intellectual analysis of them (as if he was an anthropologist explaining the behavior of primitive tribes!
THAT was arrogant (and elitist) since he has no training in such motivational assesment and for him to pontificate about people he barely knows for the delectation of his latte liberal supporters in California demonstrates insensivity to the feelings of the very people he professes to understand better than they do themselves.
Posted by: fenrisulfr | Apr 14, 2008 5:25:43 AM
Let me get this straight:
John McCain, a guy who dumped his first wife to marry a beer heiress ... a guy with his wife's private jet at his command... a guy whose entire political career was bankrolled by his wife's money and that of her ultra-rich friends... THAT GUY wants to say that OBAMA is elitist? Huh?
And, oh, don't even get me started with Hillary!
Posted by: Puzzled | Apr 14, 2008 4:38:57 AM
My previous post was in answer to Dr Hubert's
fenrisulfr, Isn't it a more than a little "elitist" of you to presume to tell Obama supporters what to think about the candidate they support?
Oh yeah and comparing Obama to Hitler, really mature...
Posted by: Robert Dale | Apr 14, 2008 12:48:10 AM
There was a debate tonight? CNN says that there wasn't. Their website says that the candidates made separate appearances at a forum.
You seem sort of bitter and angry. Has that clouded your perceptions?
Posted by: Robert Dale | Apr 14, 2008 12:40:04 AM
Tonight's CNN debates did reveal details about both candidates with the help of the mediators. For example, Campbell Brown assisted Sen. Barack Obama at least twice by providing partial answers when the Senator did not have knowledge about the question asked. By the end of the night, in my view, it seemed to me that Campbell moved her chair at least 6-12 inches closer to her idol the Senator from Illinois. Campbell also looked all night at the Senator from Illinois with starry eyed commentator.
One area that I learned from the Senator from Illinois that he made his wealth after getting out of college working for the poor. I guess some of us took the wrong career path by not helping the poor that would have given me the ability to purchase a $1.65 million dollar home with a $300,000 break. The Senator from Illinois omitted his work that he did along the way that includes slumlord Tony Rezko and known terrorist like Rashid Khalidi. Also, along the way, Sen. Hillary Clinton did not attack the Senator from Illinois and he attacked her twice. Once with the help of commentator Campbell Brown that stated that Sen. Clinton attacked him when discussing his small town comment. Sen. Clinton said that it was up to Sen. Obama to answer this question for himself versus her answering the question for him.
At the end of the night, I don't think any American was surprised that the political experts gave the Senator from Illinois higher ratings. The fact the Sen. Clinton gave detailed and insightful answers to hard questions, the Senator from Illinois was asked simple almost yes and not type questions. In the end, the Senator from Illinois continued his refusal to apologize about his small town comment instead saying, " I didn't say it as well as I should have". I guess there is a better way of saying that small town Americans are bitter and racist as Sen. Obama said at his fundraiser. In the end, American's know less about the Senator from Illinois than they knew about him prior to this forum.
Posted by: Dr Hubert, Lt Col, USAF Retired | Apr 13, 2008 11:05:10 PM
The smoke and mirrors this time around are ridiculous. This campaign has been reduced to American Idol proportions.
Here is the only one reason anyone needs to vote for Obama: he is 180 degrees from what has been going on administratively in our country.
How can any logical human being vote for anyone else if they don't like the way things are right now? It's not a matter of passion, emotion, white, black, woman, man. If everyone were to turn off their TV's and computers and quietly ask themselves: which of the three in the race is heading down a different road than previous administrations, logic will trump all else and say, "Obama 08". If p than q, if x then y. If you want any chance for change for the better, then vote Obama.
How can a multi-millionaire that owns eight houses, wants to repeal Roe v. Wade, wants to bomb Iran, and spend 100 years occupying a sandtrap (while his coffers are lined with special interest and oil money) OR the wife of an adultering husband that has spent the last 25 years (and made over $100 million) know what's best for the average American? They are out of touch.
Posted by: foofer | Apr 13, 2008 10:01:06 PM
FACE IT!
Obama is a cold, calculating sweet talking politician!
To win the election for state senator of Illinois , he made sure that his opponents were handily eliminated... because he knew he'd never win in any other way!
To win the election for the US Senate, Obama played the same dirty game; only the names of the characters were changed in regard to the people "done in".
This is Not a "made up" story (though it certainly reads like one). Look it up in the Chicago Tribune if you dare.....in fact, you SHOULD!
The election of 2008 is NOT a GAME!
The United States is in the throes of a deep recession.
People cannot afford to pay their mortgages, and thousands of homes are lost every day.
People are losing their jobs and their medical benefits.... and their pride.
Fifty percent of our teen agers are leaving school before they graduate.
We are fighting a war that seems to have no end.
The ideas emanating from Baracka's mouth when viable... have already been offered by Hillary.
He has generated one of the dirtiest campaigns I have every seen and is out once again to destroy his competition in any sneaky dirty underhanded way he can..
But he's just the bandleader; the posters and trolls like you do most of the heavy lifting.
The mud and slander he slings at Hillary is either forty years old or something for which she bears no responsibility.
BUT
Do you really think that the masses of citizens in this country WANT to be led by a chief whose very patriotism is questionable?
Do you honestly feel that this newby can take on the tremendous burden of woes currently facing our nation... with Michelle at his side and Mr. Wright at his back, and with other, even more questionable characters at his table?
This is not about race, although he would like us to think that it is; we have already had a black president and didn't even realize it!
( Harding didn't play the race card.)
In any case, it's your vote to make.
But when you do, be very very careful.
As for me, I'll take Clinton!
Posted by: questioner | Apr 13, 2008 8:29:08 PM
I agree with the many posters who've indicated that this is the most ridiculous, overblown "controversy" of this election season. Although Obama may have used a poor choice of words, it should be obvious to "in touch" Americans that he was expressing ideas that many, many Americans would echo.
Although the Clinton and McCain campaigns want to keep the issue alive for the advantage they imagine, the news media also want to keep it going in the hope that a "suspenseful" Democratic race will continue as long as possible.
Posted by: Chuck in Denver | Apr 13, 2008 5:19:34 PM
I am most amused at the frantic, last gasp efforts of the Clinton Campaign to try anything to stay in this race. How much time have we wasted on the "elite comment" now?
Seriously, while Obama could have worded his statement a little better, doesn't anyone with a bit of intelligence know what he meant? Do we have to have politicians and talking TV heads twist it out of proportion to explain it to the masses?
Posted by: Dan | Apr 13, 2008 3:35:42 PM
SpeciallyInformed:
You should change your posting name to
Uninformed!
Hillary Clinton doesn't have a
snowballs chance in hell of winning the
Democrat Nomination for president!
The MSM is trying to keep this contest
alive to boost their ratings!
Hillary Clinton is Toast!
Deal with it!
Posted by: reaganfan | Apr 13, 2008 12:24:29 PM
American9 said: Right on Dennis,
I am glad to see someone on this blog that have common sense, and not just a fearful Republican.
Obama for President.
Stick to the issues not your frail emotions.
Thank you American9. I'm glad to see that someone else agrees that issues, and dealing with these issues is what matters? When emotions get involved judgment gets VERY CLOUDED. That is a VERY DANGEROUS THING!!!
Posted by: Dennis in Orlando, FL | Apr 13, 2008 11:45:11 AM
Right on Dennis,
I am glad to see someone on this blog that have common sense, and not just a fearful Republican.
Obama for President.
Stick to the issues not your frail emotions.
Posted by: American9 | Apr 13, 2008 11:33:34 AM
Imagine obama as President: he says something he "regrets" again-----only THIS time he had said something about a foreign "enemy country" that could cause the start of another war.
Do we Americans actually WANT such a man as President, who shoots his mouth off in such an egotistical & pious manner, without even thinking of the consequences of what the POWER of HIS NEGATIVE WORDS can DO? This shows where obama's REAL train of thinking is----THIS IS A GLIMPSE OF THE REAL BARACK OBAMA----when he talks off the top in such a flippent manner----yes, THIS statement he made proves that he is a liar about wanting to "UNITE PEOPLE".
It proves that he is trying to "be all things to all people"----and that his loyalties lie with the WEALTHY, ELITE Democrats. obama cares NOTHING about the struggling people in the Midwest. He is so OUT OF TOUCH with our struggles, because he is busy clamoring for that wealthy, Ultra-Liberal Democratic campaign money. obama THINKS that he can buy the Nomination and the Presidency. Well, the American Middle-Class is gonna show who REALLY weilds the power of the vote in the next several weeks.......keep your eyes on the polls, folks:
Posted by: What Happened to the REAL Democratic Party? | Apr 13, 2008 11:18:35 AM
OBAMA IS DONE! HISTORY! LONG LIVE HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON!
Posted by: SpeciallyInformed | Apr 13, 2008 11:14:33 AM
Obama is going to have a rough time digging himself out of this one because he actually voiced the way he really feels. It is not so much the comment about people being bitter--it is more the comment that people "cling" to an assortment of things he lumped together--guns, religion, antipathy toward those who are different--in frustration.
Once again, he lumps us together and judges our behaviors and beliefs as somehow inferior to his own. We are "typical" we are "bitter."
Posted by: NJH | Apr 13, 2008 11:04:55 AM
I live in Bloomington, IN where Mellencamp lives. I would not be surprised if in the next week, Mellencamp doesn't request the Clinton campaign to stop using his music. He was for Edwards, but I'm willing to bet the proverbial farm he prerers Obama.
Posted by: ron | Apr 13, 2008 10:34:55 AM
Give me a break. Hillary is so desperate that she has to distort what Obama said because she has nothing else to "cling" to in her failed campaign for the office she thought should have been handed to her on a silver platter. What in the hell is James Carville, a Clinton partisan, doing on commenting on the flap on Meet the Press? Russert should be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: iuman | Apr 13, 2008 10:06:44 AM
Give me a break. Hillary is so desperate that she has to distort what Obama said because she has nothing else to "cling" to in her failed campaign for the office she thought should have been handed to her on a silver platter. What in the hell is James Carville, a Clinton partison, doing on commenting on the flap on Meet the Press? Russert should be ashamed of himself.
Posted by: iuman | Apr 13, 2008 10:06:33 AM
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