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Hillary Clinton's Clinton Administration Amnesia, Part Two
April 30, 2008 4:30 PM
Having taken many looks at Sen. Hillary Clinton's attempts to distance herself from the pro-NAFTA events she participated in, today we take a look at how she's bashing the Bush administration for letting the high-tech magnet manufacturer Magnetech head to China -- when it was her husband's administration that first allowed the Chinese consortium to buy the company despite concerns at the time about jobs and national security.
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- jpt
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I think this is substantively worse than the original NAFTA story. I didn't see a problem with the Clinton and/or Obama camps talking to the Canadian government officials about NAFTA. GOOD get an early start on building relationships which will make your administration stable. For me, there is no trouble in talking to foreign governments.
Here, you have someone using the loss of jobs as a reason to support her candidacy even when the loss of jobs is a partial consequence of Bill Clinton's inaction. Instead of being upfront about the connection, Hillary is using Bush's behavior as a cover for Bill's.
Fess up.
I would say this is serious in the kind of assertion she is making and what she refuses to actually tell. Military hardware for free trade purposes mixed in with American economic hardship. I believe national defense fundamentally needs to remain non partisan. If we can't construct our weapons without relying on nonAmerican companies, where is our national security?
Completely vetted? Ugh.
Posted by: Genna | May 2, 2008 7:19:53 AM
When Bill Clinton came to the White House in1993, Democrats were a congressional majority, with 258 seats in the House. When he left in 2001, they were a minority with 46 fewer seats. There were 30 Democratic governors, when he arrived, 21 eight years later.
A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found nearly 60 percent of voters think Clinton is dishonest and will lie when she thinks she needs to.
Posted by: rhbate | May 1, 2008 9:38:11 PM
Hillary Clinton wasn't the president. She is not responsible for mistake her husband made.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia
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That's funny! She wants to take credit for the good that Bill did but had nothing to do with the bad. GIVE ME A BREAK
Posted by: rhbate | May 1, 2008 9:32:38 PM
KEEP THE CLINTONS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE
When Bill Clinton came to the White House in1993, Democrats were a congressional majority, with 258 seats in the House. When he left in 2001, they were a minority with 46 fewer seats. There were 30 Democratic governors, when he arrived, 21 eight years later.
A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found nearly 60 percent of voters think Clinton is dishonest and will lie when she thinks she needs to.
Posted by: jbate | May 1, 2008 7:19:04 PM
Hillary is a compulsive, and fairly good, liar. Obama has questionable loyalties.
That leaves McCain - who might as well be a Democrat....
Lousy choices this year but I'm going with McCain.
Posted by: SuziQ | May 1, 2008 1:37:42 PM
Caught again in an apparent lie....
par for the course when a Clinton is
involved. "I never liked NAFTA once,
not ever......I never endorsed that
vile act...." How long will we let
these mendacious blatherskites continue
their political careers. It seems that
the answer is FOREVER.
Posted by: Snafu | Apr 30, 2008 11:57:16 PM
Hopesprings: First, the Magnequench Anderson plant was not closed down under Bush, it was closed down under Clinton.
Second, this is only one story. Clinton also sent Bernard Schwartz, CEO of Loral, which builds aerospace equipment to China with Ron Brown, his Secretary of Commerce in 1994. Bernard Schwartz is a major Clinton contributor ($750K to the library) alone. His company was also fined $14 Million dollars for selling satellite secrets to the Chinese.
There is no excuse. The Clintons were involved and now they are, again, lying about lying.
Posted by: Mara | Apr 30, 2008 11:52:43 PM
Doesn't matter Clinton supporters. You can cry all damn day it wasn't here. Remember, guilt by ASSOCIATION! See, two can play at that game. Game, set, match.
Besides, she NEVER should have lied about her support and push for it. Maybe she forgot there is video footage of her at various functions talking up the "good" of NAFTA.
Guilt by association. Of course she is already gulity b/c look at all the dirt surrounding BOTH Clinton's. It is high time the media starts to FOCUS ON HER AGAIN!!!
Posted by: DORTHY | Apr 30, 2008 10:13:49 PM
Hillary wasn't telling a fib; NAFTA IS the baby of BUSH... George the first!
You should do your homework before calling people liars.
Clinton did the best he could by editing the package as much as he could with a republican congress..... but all that's actually HIS is his signature.
So you get to go to the back of the class.
And I get to vote for HILLARY!
Posted by: questioner | Apr 30, 2008 10:02:05 PM
If Bush's Admin. had followed the laws set in place to protect the US and had enforced them we all wouldn't be in this mess. You can't blame Bush's short comings on Clinton
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 30, 2008 9:51:33 PM
The "it was her husband, not her" defense is completely off-point. Folks, we're not blaming Hillary for closing down this business. We're blaming Hillary for telling a lie once again when she blamed the whole thing on George Bush.
Any other topic posted on here is just a distraction. She said something, it wasn't true, she got caught, and it's not the first time. That's the irrefutable fact of this story.
Got another theory? Sleep deprivation? Memory Loss? Alien Abduction? Let's hear it, but stop trying to cover up her blatant lies.
The Clintons love this tactic. They lie in a speech, everyone at the speech takes it as truth and between their word of mouth and the local media, it becomes a wide-spread "truthiness". Then, when the truth comes out, they just cross their fingers that a lot of the folks that heard the lie don't end up hearing the truth.
Simple. If more people only hear the Clinton lie than the number who eventually hear the truth, then they win. Sure, cumulatively it gives her bad "trust" numbers, but if it bumps her over 50% in the vote, who cares, right?
Disgusting...
Posted by: fontapa | Apr 30, 2008 9:49:12 PM
Word is the supers have already decided but are waiting for the primaries to be over before they announce. Should be interesting.
Posted by: lily | Apr 30, 2008 8:43:50 PM
the sad thing is, with obama, he told us to expect something different from him, and so many many people have believed him-and now he has proven that to be untrue. and sadly he has shown us
that very quickly if need be he can become the politician he wants us to believe he is replacing..
same old,same old
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 30, 2008 8:31:34 PM
It really doesn't matter what any of us think about this...but, I guarantee you that the Super Delegates will be watching this unfold.
The Clintons may fool some of us, but, not those who are in the know in Washington.
OBAMA/WEBB '08 & '12
Posted by: Roxie | Apr 30, 2008 8:24:54 PM
The trouble is, this is what is expected of Hillary, so big deal. It has become the norm that our politician should lie, and cheat, some how this make one "testicular".
When I think of that term I think of men who beat their girlfriends. I think of congress who spends time and my money on a bunch of jocks who use steroids. Anything to take away the focus at how inept they are.
Same old, same old.
Posted by: Thinking | Apr 30, 2008 8:12:27 PM
All the agreements and sales permitted by the Clinton Administration were based on the assumption that following administrations would do due diligence in enforcing and regulating. The Bush Administration gave away the candy shop to make mad money for the members of its Pioneer Club corporate money boys. Anybody can see that the Bush Administration sat on its hands while corporate interests plundered this nation over the last 7-8 years. Lack of enforcement and follow through will turn any good agreement into a one-sided travesty!
Posted by: hopesprings52 | Apr 30, 2008 6:55:55 PM
I think the best advice for the voters of Indian is to listen to the sage advice of the former president William J Clinton - Bill said - if one candidate is playing to your fears and the other to your hopes, vote hope every time...
So when McCain runs ads about 3AM phone calls, ads with Usama, and talks about nuking Iran... oh wait, those are Hillary's tactics. Thanks for the advice Bill.
Posted by: John Galt | Apr 30, 2008 6:45:33 PM
When the time comes, most Clinton voters will get in line and vote for Obama. Hillary will stump for him while working behind the scenes against him as she has her eyes set on the 2012 race. Hillary has reached the zenith of her career - she was the wife of a president and she is a say anything do anything senator from NY in the style of her predecessor Al D'Amato (Senator Pothole).
Hillary supporters need to start coming to grips with her failed campaign and move on. She lost. Its over. The fat lady has sung and she's singing Changes by David Bowie.
Posted by: John Galt | Apr 30, 2008 6:40:39 PM
But these things are minor when compared with the breathless outrage of Rev. Wright's "racist" rants. That's really important to voters...
Posted by: matt | Apr 30, 2008 6:20:09 PM
Obama, who COULDN'T have voted for it swears he WOULDN'T have voted for it... possibly because he hadn't been fed the (mis)information provided by Bush during a time in which New York had just been attacked by terrorists!
And if you're going to blame her for "umbrellas"... get it right!
It was an "Umbrella of Deterrence" and was meant as a warning to certain mid-east countries to keep their nuclear crap in their own back yards.
It could prove to be a valuable idea!
At least it WAS an idea; this was generated during the last debate during which Obama was to busy searching for his words to try to come up with anything new!
And, I notice, he's never commented one way or another about it.
I like a person who can think on his/her feet, and who can come up with viable effective solutions.
That's why I will be voting for Hillary... or John Mccain if necessary.
Posted by: questioner | Apr 30, 2008 6:19:29 PM
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