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In Canada, Clinton Co-Chair/Fundraiser Downplays Candidate's NAFTA Rhetoric
April 18, 2008 5:07 PM
At Toronto's Empire Club of Canada this week, two former US ambassadors to Canada -- one Democrat and one Republican -- debated how concerned Canadians should be that the Democratic candidates are serious about re-negotiating NAFTA.
It was the Democrat, James Blanchard, who told Canadians not to worry, according to Canadian press accounts.
Blanchard, former Governor of Michigan, is a Michigan state co-chair of Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign, one of her major "HillRaiser" fundraisers, and served as US Ambassador to Canada during the administration of former President Bill Clinton.
Hillary Clinton has pledged to voters that she will force Canada to re-negotiate the deal or the US will opt out of it.
"I've said that I will renegotiate NAFTA, so obviously we'd have to say to Canada and Mexico that that's exactly what we're going to do," Clinton said during a recent debate. "We will opt out of NAFTA unless we renegotiate it.”
But Blanchard seemed to pooh-pooh that bold statement, telling attendees that Democrats are more concerned about China and Mexico than they are Canada.
''Their concern is job loss or unfairness in dealing with countries that have low wage and labor standards and low environmental standards,'' Blanchard said, according to the Canadian Press. ''I have not seen anything that would constitute a threat to trade with Canada."
The story said that Blanchard this week "played down her antipathy toward the free-trade deal, saying she has visited Canada many times and understands the country well."
Conversely, the Republican, former Massachusetts Gov. Paul Cellucci -- who served as US Ambassador to Canada for President George W. Bush -- said "there ought to be some concern here in Canada" because both Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama have "been making some pretty strong statements" against trade agreements such as NAFTA.
The sincerity of the Democrats' opposition to various trade deals has emerged as an issue in the primary season, as the candidates pursue labor union voters in industrial states such as Pennsylvania, which will hold its contest this Tuesday.
An Obama economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, met with Canadian officials and left the impression he was assuring them not to take Obama's anti-NAFTA rhetoric too seriously.
Clinton, for her part, has claimed to have always opposed NAFTA even though she help promote the trade deal in 1993.
Her campaign adviser, Mark Penn, met with Colombian officials to help promote the Colombian trade deal that Clinton herself opposes. Her husband also supports the deal and was paid $800,000 by a pro-trade Colombian company in 2005 to deliver speeches in which he promoted it.
When Blanchard resigned as Bill Clinton's ambassador to Canada, the Montreal Gazette reported that he "helped pave the way for the so-called "concessions" on labor and environmental issues that gave Prime Minister Chretien a face-saving excuse for dropping his opposition to NAFTA."
Blanchard eventually became a lobbyist, and has represented Bristol-Myers Squibb, Cisco Systems, and Qualcomm. As a HillRaiser he has committed to raising at least $250,000 for Clinton's campaign.
-- jpt
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I see no one is outsources jobs in America it's the people who out source themselves from the rest of the real world that beleive in one nation under God. So if no one believes in unity there will be no jobs left You make your own bread or you can move somewhere else where there is beleivers
Posted by: gg | Apr 21, 2008 11:22:56 AM
Sen Clinton tells the Indian government, that she supports the continuane of outsourcing
jobs to India! I think the voters should be outraged that any politician is for outsourcing premium American jobs.
Remember NAFTA anybody.
Posted by: jld1959 | Apr 21, 2008 2:40:31 AM
If someone doesn't give a source for their accusations, don't give it any credence. Anyone can make up anything.
Posted by: jkr | Apr 20, 2008 6:33:22 PM
scape goating again
Posted by: gg | Apr 20, 2008 4:06:05 PM
scape goating again
Posted by: gg | Apr 20, 2008 4:05:59 PM
Pastor Wright Trouble for Obama?
Ayers, Trouble for Obama?
Bitter, trouble for Obama?
Gun-toting trouble for Obama?
Michelle, Trouble for Obama?
Farrakhan, Trouble for Obama?
Peru Free trade agreement, Trouble for Obama?
Rezko, Trouble for Obama?
Sinclair, Trouble for Obama?
The Black Panthers trouble for Obama?
Meeks trouble for Obama?
Malley trouble for Obama?
Auchi trouble for Obama?
Khalidi trouble for Obama?
McPeaks trouble for Obama?
NAFTA trouble for Obama?
Debates, Trouble for Obama?
Posted by: concerned | Apr 20, 2008 3:53:54 PM
Eric above says that McCain is a war hero. That doesn't give him the experience to be president.
And what kind of a war hero would have such disrespect and lack of loyalty to the troops that he is against the new GI bill that was introduced in the Senate?
Posted by: AnnieEddie | Apr 20, 2008 1:24:19 PM
The NAFTA issue is only the tip of the iceburg. Hillary Clinton is the founder and chairman of the Senate India Caucus. One of her biggest donors, Sant Singh Chatwal, cited that Clinton’s India Caucus has vowed to raise $5 million dollars for her from companies that outsource American Jobs to India.
Sound familiar, $5 million, India raises $5 million for Hillary, Hillary loans $5 million to her primary campaign. Doe’s that mean the India Caucus provided $5 for Hillary’s primary campaign? If so it was a bad investment.
In the February 2005 issue of The India Review / On a recent trip to India, Senator Clinton laid to rest India’s fears that outsourcing American jobs would end. On that trip Senator Clinton said, “OUTSOURCING of AMERICAN Jobs will continue”, and they have.
The people of Pennsylvania have supported Clinton and she has outsourced their jobs. The people of Pennsylvania vote for her and she rewards India. Somebody is being conned. She diverts our attention with little hissy fits about trivia that doesn’t matter while her husband Bill and manager Penn are carrying bags of money out the back door.
Posted by: John | Apr 20, 2008 11:02:26 AM
MC CAIN IS A WAR HERO..... 2008
Posted by: ERIC | Apr 20, 2008 8:58:26 AM
YOU DO NO GAIN ANY GOOD THING BY RISING CAPITAL GAIN....... THE TAXES DO NO MAKE A ECONOMIC GET BETTER CREATE JOBS AND A FRIENDLY WAY FOR INVESTMENT DOES.
CREATE MORE JOBS. NO MORE TAX....
Posted by: ERIC | Apr 20, 2008 8:51:58 AM
WHO IS SAYING THAT ALL YOUNG VOTER ARE FOR OBAMA IS NOT TRUTH THE MEDIA THINK THAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE STUPID..... THEY WILL SEE THE DIFFERENT AFTER TUESDAY THERE POLLS HAVING CLINTON UP BY 19 POINTS........ THE MEDIA LIKE CNN,. MSNBC THINKS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE STUPID.......
Posted by: ERIC | Apr 20, 2008 8:45:19 AM
2008 OBAMA NO CHANCE
Posted by: ERIC | Apr 20, 2008 8:37:42 AM
Is Obama really believing what some of his supporters think that he is a deity in a cult? That he can talk in riddles and nobody has the right to question him? Why is he so unable to answer any question? why does he have to retreat and then come back with an explanation or a whine?
Posted by: libre | Apr 20, 2008 8:18:45 AM
Reverend Wright Trouble for Obama?
Ayers, Ttouble for Obama?
Bitter, trouble for Obama?
Michelle, Trouble for Obama?
Farrakahn, Trouble for Obama?
Peru Free trade agreement, Trouble for Obama?
Rezko, Trouble for Obama?
Sinclair, Trouble for Obama?
Debates,Trouble for Obama?
Posted by: libre | Apr 20, 2008 8:17:11 AM
Boy, Hillary put quite a bit of spin on that word! She'll do anything to take the heat off of her and Bill. Bill and Hillary both supported NAFTA, it's obvious from her schedule that was released. Now, Bill and her campaign strategist Penn are working with the Columbian government to push through a trade deal that she supposedly is against. The people of Pennsylvania have every right to be "bitter", but it's because of people like the Clintons who have cost them their jobs. The Columbians have paid Bill $800,000 for his work to promote the trade agreement If you expect people to actually believe you don't support the agreement, why would you be okay taking the $800,000. And if that $800,000 is in your joint account, and you've "loaned" your campaign $5 million, how can people be sure that the Columbians aren't paying for her campaign.
People in upstate New York State were promised that if she were elected to the Senate, she would bring thousands of jobs there. Well, no jobs ever came, and when she was questioned about it at the MSN debate, her lame response was that when she made those promises, she thought Al Gore would be elected President!!!! Take my word for it Pennsylvania Voters, she could care less about you…she's telling you what you want to hear so that you'll vote for her, then you can forget any lame promises she has made. Jobs are still leaving Upstate at an alarming rate. She can't even handle one State, how in the world can she think she can run an entire country. Please Pennsylvania… don't let her scam you like she did the NY Senate voters and OH and TX primary voters with lies about NAFTA.
Posted by: John | Apr 20, 2008 7:35:12 AM
Are you mad as a wet hen yet Ohio? Hillary stood up there for days and said, "If any member of my campaign had gone to a foreign government and said, wink, wink, don't worry about NAFTA." Well, guess what, IT WAS HILLARY'S MICHIGAN CO CHAIR WHO DID THAT DIRTY LITTLE DEED. Obama's staffer never said anything different to the Canadians in Chicago then Obama says in public and the Canadian government confirmed it. Hillary won Ohio based on that lie and she knew it was a lie when she was telling it. She claims she won Texas too, but she didn't. Obama beat her by five delegates. Bill and Hillary claimed NAFTA as the single greatest achievement of the Clinton administration. People who were present at the time said Mrs. Clinton wanted to do her healthcare plan first, but that she didn't at the time object to NAFTA itself. When she says she was always against NAFTA, that's another lie as her White House schedule proves. She gave presentations to sell it and there are people who were there who say she was 100% for it. Even though Bill took almost a million dollars to help push Columbian Free Trade deal through American congress, we're supposed to believe that Hillary really doesn't like it. How many lies will people buy? Are you listening PA? Your jobs went foreign thanks to the hard work of the Clintons. Do you still think the Clinton years were great? It just took a while for the effects of their laws to really impact your lives, but they set it all in motion.
Posted by: karela | Apr 20, 2008 4:01:31 AM
The democrats have added new voters ................FOR THE PRIMARY.
Many will vote for Mc Cain or not vote.
We go thru this EVERY election cycle.
These Obama lovers think that people ONLY signed up for Obama. If that was true, then Obama would have won easily by now.
Believe me, Obama will never win the general election. All he has is 20 years olds -who never have shown up in great numbers in the general election.
Never have, never will.
If Obama gets the nomination, Mc Cain will win the election .
Posted by: tomdavie | Apr 20, 2008 1:59:39 AM
HILLARY WILL LIE FROM DAY ONE.
Posted by: jbate | Apr 20, 2008 1:52:49 AM
I moved to Michigan in 1990 just in time to see Governor Jim Blanchard get beat by a little known State Senator named John Engler. I remember Blanchard’s brilliant TV ads extolling his prison boot camps featuring white drill sergeants yelling in the faces of black inmates. He also had an expensive looking jet-copper he liked to fly around the state in that Engler made an issue of. Not surprisingly, there was a low voter turnout in Detroit and Engler won a stunning upset victory.
Then came the fiscal scandal in the Michigan House of Representatives. The Democrats had been stealing money for years. That gave the Republicans control of state government for the next ten years. Most of the Democrats that were left didn’t really care. As long as their seats were safe, all was right with the world. Bill Clinton was a much better politician than his friend Jim Blanchard. Bill even remembers he is a Democrat most of the time and he knew to treat black voters like people not inmates in the Democratic column.
There was also a police helicopter that flew around the state capitol neighborhood all night long looking for open-air drug sales. It was the tail end of the bipartisan “war on drugs”. During the Blanchard administration, there was almost a dollar-for-dollar shift of money for higher education to new prisons in the state budget. Recently, the state lowered many of the sentences handed out in the era for drug crimes mostly because the state couldn’t pay for it any longer. Tuition was raised and many students borrowed more student loans.
Now, the Michigan economy is once again at “Rodger and Me” like depths. Maybe if the state had invested and valued its motivated young people, rather than treating them like “revenue sources”, people would want to start or move business to Michigan. And the policies of Jim Blanchard, like his tepid governor friend from Wisconsin Tony Earl, hang in my memory in the Republican frames they originally came in.
Posted by: James Knell, Chicago, IL | Apr 20, 2008 1:16:45 AM
I just cannot understand why people would vote for a bold liar like Hillary. Go Obama GO!
Posted by: leighg1 | Apr 20, 2008 1:14:48 AM
we have so much oil in this country that the Americans need. Most of it we haven't even touched yet. To me, I don't really care who got in touch with the Canadian Government first, but this I do know. I would rather our Government deal with Obama than Clinton, so I hope he wins. He's the only thing you have that we don't, so if you don't want him send him to the Great White North.
Posted by: Sharon | Apr 19, 2008 11:06:12 PM
Joe Scanlon, very interesting! So you find it irresponsible that someone chooses to live on $204,000, even though he grossed $405,000?
I think that is humorous! Because should Sen. Obama or Sen. Clinton become president, one can expect that everyone making $400,000 may HAVE to live on far less than $200,000 since they will both try to raise the federal tax rates for anyone making over $100,000 to at least 50%. So when you include state income taxes, that will be quite a bite into their income.
Posted by: James Danley | Apr 19, 2008 10:31:51 PM
Finally! A smart discussion. Thanks everyone.
Posted by: ben | Apr 19, 2008 9:26:24 PM
john mccain is a woman hater. i hope hillay wins too but i'd be crazy to vote for mccain. service to his country and all that aside the man has problems.
Posted by: darla | Apr 19, 2008 9:25:28 PM
Misty I remember McCain saying that. They are already bringing it up in the MSM. It was so insulting. I remember thinking to myself "Who is this creep." He insulted Chelsea, who as an 18 year old must have been totally humiliated. McCain insulted Bill Clinton with the suggestion that the indiscretions of his past resulted in that. He insulted Hillary who had suffered enough abuse from that kind of talk. And he insulted the gay and lesbian community because of the insinuation that Janet Reno is a lesbian. I'm not a lesbian, but I can rightfully imagine that outrage. I'm all for Hillary, but Obama has my vote if the party nominates him. I'll never vote for McCain. At least Sen. Obama has never made those kinds of nasty personal attacks on Hillary. And that says a lot about a man. We'll show McCain.
Posted by: Betty Cole | Apr 19, 2008 9:23:56 PM
Excellent points, Joe. I'd just like to add two things:
1. The 29 percent of Clinton "holdouts" you mentioned clearly represent her most ardent supporters. As ardent support goes, even President Bush, after 7 years of failure on domestic, economic and foreign policy, enjoys a near 30 percent approval rating. This is, that ardent support, who view him as a man who can do no wrong -- no matter the extent of his ineptitude. For the General Election against McCain, the psychology of these ardent Clinton supporters will come into play when she inevitably endorses Sen. Obama for the presidency. Does anyone actually think Sen. Clinton is going to ask her supporters to vote for McCain?
She's going to try and rally behind the Democratic candidate as she indicated in the PA debate and that means that her staunchest supporters will do the same -- after all, if they place their faith in her judgment as their candidate of choice, they will follow suit in her recommendation as to who is best suited to run the country. In the end, the incredible similarities between her platform and Sen. Obama's -- apart from simple party loyalty -- means Clinton's supporters will vote for Obama in the fall.
2. To follow up on your "Girl Power" comment. Right now Clinton supporters are focused, understandably, on Obama. In the General Election they will be focused on McCain. None of the women who supposedly are going to defect to McCain are going to forgive him for his phenomenally insensitive remarks at the GOP convention when he made his infamous joke about Chelsea being ugly because Janet Reno is her mother. All these things will be resurrected, and the Clinton Women, who, like myself, feel protective of Chelsea will make McCain pay the price for those remarks.
Posted by: Misty Rodgers | Apr 19, 2008 9:16:14 PM
All you Obama supporters are out of your minds if you think that Hillary's supporters will vote for him.
Most of us WILL vote for McCain. And there is no amount of time that will heal the wounds Obama's supporters have inflicted.
Obama will probably win the Democratic nomination but he will NOT win the General Election.
You all think that because we are registered Democrates we will vote for ANYONE on the Democratic ticket. WRONG. Most of us think for ourselves and will vote for the candidate we think is best.
If not Hillary than McCain!
Posted by: Regina | Apr 19, 2008 9:07:27 PM
Tim: I'll explain why Obama will win the general election:
1. Although the Democratic Party is partially divided now, after the PA primary superdelegates will begin a tidal wave of support for Obama. At least 20 supers will declare on Wednesday or Thursday. The reason: the DNC knows it needs time for the wounds of Hillary's supporters to heal.
2. Even though 29% of Clinton supporters now say that they will either not vote for Obama in the General Election, or worse, vote for McCain, this is nothing more than a powerplay -- and an empty one at that. The truth is, the most likely scenario is that 1/3 of her die hard supporters may take this line, but your blue collar workers and the elderly and women, certainly will not. Can you really see women voting for McCain? A man who once famously called his own wife a Cu*&? Somehow I don't see "Girl Power" preserved in that appalling phrase.
3. Even if a full 29% of Clinton supporters do sit out/vote for McCain, Obama STILL wins. How? By the numbers. The Democratic primary has generated so many new voters that, on balance they have added millions of Democrats to the process.
4. The War in Iraq. Anyone who believes John McCain is right on Iraq has not seen a family member or close friend sent to fight a war we never should have been fighting. McCain's stance that he would be satisfied with a 100 year occupation, as we have done in Japan, fails to recognize that in the aftermath of WWII we had obtained an "unconditional surrender" from the Empire of Japan. Trouble is, we aren't fighting a country. We are fighting a terror organization, and though the battleground has been shaped as "Iraq" it is not the Iraqi's that will dictate whether or not peace will be had. This is why the argument for staying in Iraq is so specious. Consider this, for nearly 40 years Yasser Arafat was the voice of the PLO. However, for the last 15 years his "authority" was not absolute and any pledge of peace he made was subject to accepance by Hamas. This is why Arafat could not "promise" peace -- because he could not ensure that the growing Hamas membership would accept it. And, this is why Hamas has now segued from being just a terror organization, into being a terror organization with a political arm -- as witness by their success in Palestinian elections. Think Sein Fenn as the political arm of the IRA and you get the idea. Bottom line: 50 to 100 years in Iraq as McCain proposed, as an occupying force in a country without bloodshed is an impossibility because we will not be able to force a surrender of a terror group on a vast worldwide battleground while concentrating an effort in one country. It spells: DEBACLE. As we have seen.
5. The Economy. McCain himself has admitted several times that it is not his strongest suit. This should give anyone pause, including Republicans, who may not care about middle class Americans, but they certainly care about the bankruptcies of Bear Stearns and other institutional banks -- after all, that's where they get their profits from the massive Bush/McCain tax cuts for the rich.
If the admission itself isn't enough reason not to vote for McCain, yesterday he revealed his tax records that show he made about $405,000, paid about $84,000 in taxes and gave about $120,000 to charity. It is best to disclose here that McCain and his wealthy wife have an air-tight prenup that protects her formidable trove -- a reason why he does not disclose her tax records (although he should). The point here is, by McCain's earnings being McCain's own wealth, one must wonder how fiscally responsible it is for a man to donate more than 33 percent of his net income to charity. It may seem like a grand gesture os selflessness, but in these economic times, I don't think anyone really expects grand gestures of selflessness on this scale. I ask anyone who reads this: are YOU prepared to give 33 percent of your Net Income to charity? If not, do you think it's wholly irresponsible? And if so, do you think a man this irresponsible should be in charge of reining in a multi-trillion dollar deficit? If, of course, you take the position that he is giving so much to charity because he knows he has his wife's wealth and the money he makes is just pocket change in relation to her $100 million fortune, doesn't that make Sen. McCain a kept man? It does, and nobody wants to see a kept man as President of the United States -- nobody. It is also one of the reasons why Sen. Clinton has been this successful in her primary campaign -- because Americans no longer expect to see kept women. A man? Forget about it.
Posted by: Joe Scanlon | Apr 19, 2008 8:24:43 PM
Borack Hussein Obama President? very sad for the USA - He'll never have my vote
Posted by: Yolanda Diaz | Apr 19, 2008 8:10:17 PM
Melanie....They offered to raise money, He does not want their money! Get your facts straight and stop twisting the truth like your candidate! People like myself donate money and we are more than happy to do so, that is why he has raised more money from his supporters than any candidate in history. Stop Lying!
Posted by: Emilianna | Apr 19, 2008 6:00:23 PM
Obama is running commercials non stop here in NC claiming he never has and never will take a penny from Washington Lobbyists. On USA Todays website political page, there is a list of THIRTY EIGHT WAHINGTON LOBBYISTS, names by name. that have pledged to raise between fifty thousand and two hundred thousand dollars each for Obama. When I called their local office number and asked the chick answering the phones about it, she was speechless. Obama has done nothing buyt lie about every thing he is putting out to the public in this campaign. God help us if a bunch of idiots in this country elect him as President.
Posted by: Melanie | Apr 19, 2008 5:35:21 PM
She's such a liar. What a disgrace to women in politics.
Posted by: carolyn | Apr 19, 2008 4:21:13 PM
How could the press have been against Hillaryt since the beginning? SHe was the front runner up until Iowa.
What was proven was the voters don't like and/or trust her.
Once Obama gets the nod he will be the agent of change and will easily beat McCain the general election.
Voters care about their homes, jobs, healthcare, ending the war and having a future...they don't care about negative attacks or the politics of personal destruction.
And for Dem voters who would vote against Obama if he wins you clearly are missing the point. The election is about a battle of vision over ideologies not personalities.
Whoever the Dem nominee is,support them and change the executive branch of the government.
Posted by: Bill | Apr 19, 2008 3:54:02 PM
Hillary supporters:
If you are as sick as I am of the Obama supporters who post in here bull (3 peple with several sock puppets) then vote McCain if our lady doesn't get the nomination.
Hillary or McCain '08!!!
Posted by: libby | Apr 19, 2008 3:43:27 PM
Why does Hillary Clinton hate America? All this lady does is lie to ordinary citizens, and then she and her husband go around playing the suggestive race card. I'm sorry that she is a closeted lesbian (yes, it is true and widely known in washington, just like everyone knew about Larry Craig and said nothing- not that there is anything wrong with that) and feels that she must be more manly than her husband in terms of toughness. I just can vote for someone who can't level with the world about her own sexuality.
Posted by: John Farren | Apr 19, 2008 3:18:07 PM
MARK; how can you invoke AGE DISCRIMINATION on behalf of John Mccain when McCain himself didn't believe in CIVIL RIGHTS or when Dr. King's was fighting for CIVIL RIGHTS for ALL Americans of which he paid with his life? McCain even voted against Dr. King's Birthday. We will give him a dose of his own medicine by rightly using his own old AGE against him in a high level intellectual position in dealing and getting along with the rest of the World. Hoping by so doing this will help him understand how painful it is when someone uses just your sun burn or the color of your skin against you in anything human. To mccain and cindy, even their pet dog have more rights than Blacks and Native Americans. Except they aren't saying it.
VOTE THE MOST RESPECTED HUMAN BEING ON EARTH "OBAMA". VOTE 2008 For "OBAMA"
Posted by: Che-3 | Apr 19, 2008 2:29:55 PM
This country is not about a flag pin; it’s not about a flag; it is about a citizens right to burn that flag in protest. It is the right of a person to get up and put forth an opinion that you totally disagree with and would fight with all your breath against. That is what America is about, that is what we should celebrate. Our military fights for our Constitutional right to burn that flag if we wish. It’s called freedom of speech. The right to express ourselves any way we wish.
Posted by: jbate | Apr 19, 2008 1:35:50 PM
You people can blah, blah, blah all you want but in the end it really doesn't matter. You can talk about Rezko, lapel pins, NAFTA, or anything else you choose. but when all is said and done, there is on one important question: Does anyone have any jelly, because Hillary is toast.
Posted by: jbate | Apr 19, 2008 12:21:19 PM
Couldn't have put it better, McCain is elderly. He is a genuine American Hero running for President unfortunatnately for him, at the wrong time. Now if he were in place of Bush 8 years ago. Age Discrimination should be frowned upon, but as a change argument - I don't think it will.
Posted by: Erica Williams | Apr 19, 2008 11:26:22 AM
I THINK IT IS HORRIBLE THAT COMEDIANS ARE MAKING JOKES ABOUT MCCAINS AGE. ISNT THERE SUCH A THING AS AGE DISCRIMINATION? IF WE STAND UP FOR AND DO AWAY WITH GENDER AND RACE DISCRIMINATION-WHAT ABOUT AGE DISCRIMINATION? IF COMEDIANS JOKE ABOUT MCCAINS AGE THEN RACE AND GENDER SHOULD BE FAIR GAME AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM IN MY THIRTIES BUT I FEEL WE SHOULD SHOW MORE RESPECT FOR THE ELDERLY.
Posted by: MARK | Apr 19, 2008 10:55:52 AM
Jake says:
"But Blanchard seemed to pooh-pooh that bold statement, telling attendees that Democrats are more concerned about China and Mexico than they are Canada."
''Their concern is job loss or unfairness in dealing with countries that have low wage and labor standards and low environmental standards,'' Blanchard said, according to the Canadian Press. ''I have not seen anything that would constitute a threat to trade with Canada."
-------------------
Jake: You described what Blanchard said as "pooh poohed". Get a grip man.
What Blanchard said is what Hillary has said all along. NAFTA should be renogiated to make for an even level playing ground. And this will definitely impact Mexico more than Canada. I'm from Michigan and can attest to the fact that we've been decimated by jobs going to Mexico big time. And now I've heard Mexico is even losing those jobs to China.
Posted by: WeNeedFairReporting | Apr 19, 2008 10:54:33 AM
MCCAIN
Posted by: MARK | Apr 19, 2008 10:51:45 AM
Can't wait for all the bubble-dwellers in the media to get theirs popped on April 22nd. Newsflash: It's not all about you.
Thought the debate was bad news for Obama? Wait until Tuesday. Even Axelrove won't be able to spin it, not even with his usual fallback position of Obama as victim.
Finally, after having to tolerate the self-important, egotistical mediocrity that is the so-called mainstream media for weeks and weeks, at least some of the voters (remember them?) will be allowed to weigh in for the very first time post-Wright, post-SF, post-finger, post-Bosnia.
And we'll all just have to accept what they have to say as the final word.
Jake & colleagues: It's not about you.
Posted by: expatriot | Apr 19, 2008 10:28:48 AM
Obama did draw the largest crowd to date in Philly - 35,000 +
and Hillary DID tell a calculated LIE to you and to ALL Americans repeated many times in an effort to clearly decieve you, under the assumption that voters were too lazy & stupid to figure it out. Well guess what? She got caught and gave a remorseless apology 8 days AFTER the lie was known indicating to most that she was only sorry that she got caught. Then, goes on the Tonight Show with Leno and makes a joke about it while our men and women are coming home in body bags - of the 4000+ families suffering a loss - spose they found her joke cute?
Now i am all for women and equality, but I cannot and will not support any candidate that lies to me and doesn't show enough common sense and tact when making a joke about it. Do we need to discuss the severe deception that no one seems to be putting a finger on? How about Penn and Bill. How about $800,000 in special interest money deposited into a joint account, writing a check for $5,000,000 to her own campaign. Now is there a little bit of a conflict there? Does she support NAFTA only when it's convenient? or is she against it with a severe special interest conflict? Just how many special interest groups will she owe favors to? Loyalty is everything to her & Bill, that much was made clear - do you seriously think she is speaking FOR you or AT you to get your vote. Bottom line - I don't trust her, and in light of the facts out there - no one should. Women need to break the glass ceiling - you could find a better person for that role clearly - to put her in charge -
NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Obama 08
Posted by: Erica Williams | Apr 19, 2008 10:18:58 AM
For those who want to know more, or be reminded, of Sen. Clinton's real experience during her eight years as First Lady, there is an interesting piece written by Diane Rigali that can easily be found by Googling "Diane Rigali, Forgotten."
Posted by: James Danley | Apr 19, 2008 9:25:52 AM
It would have been nice if the MSM had got this story right before the Ohio primary.
This isn't the first time that Clinton's campaign has assured the Canadians that she is blowing smoke up the American patootie with all her chatter about reforming trade deals.
She did exactly the same thing right before Ohio, and people like Jake Tapper got it exactly backwards and reported that Obama's campaign did it.
Nice going. Congratulations, ABC, you finally got something right.
-Wexler
Posted by: William W. Wexler | Apr 19, 2008 9:04:32 AM
@ Demo Rules
Americans are waking up?
Obama's lead is closing, he's ahead only by 3% in legitimate national polls (Gallup).
Yes, you're right...Americans are waking up.
Posted by: John | Apr 19, 2008 8:32:21 AM
Good to see alot more Americans are waking up and seeing thru Hillary's lies!Hillary and McCain go hand in hand, lets start from the begining;Hillary voted for the War In Iraq, but after she decided to run for Office, now she says, she is against the War..Hillary's Dad was a Republican so you think that makes her a Democratic, it should be No! Hillary praised McCain on National T.V., if she recieved the Nomination, wouldnt she be running against McCain, then why praise him.Because she dont care if McCain or her Win.Could she be a undercover Republican? She didnt want to release her Tax-Info for months, maybe thats because she didnt want American Voters to see she Richer then Rich! NAFTA, Bill was for it, do you really believe then Hillary is against it? I think not!Hillary just days ago was taking shots of Whisky on the News, what kinda message is she sending our kids? Hillary has lied time and time again during this race for the Democratic Nominee. Hillary doesnt sound like a change to me! Vote Obama lets bring a Real Change to America!
Posted by: Demo Rules | Apr 19, 2008 7:29:12 AM
Another of the lies of Hillary. Let's talk logic: do you think that while her husband was actively promoting NAFTA, his wife would organize on 10 November 1993 at 11:45 am a drop-by meeting with 150 influential and business oriented women at the same White House to oppose the treaty? Are we stupid or mentally retarded? This shows again that Hillary would say anything to get to the White House!!!!
Posted by: Denis van Dam | Apr 19, 2008 5:25:58 AM
Gad, the ability of the Clinton people to deny the obvious makes the Obamabots look like steely-eyed pragmatists by contrast. C'mon, she's not against NAFTA and never was; she's lying again people. She's got 800,000 reasons to lie sitting in her joint checking account. And dragging out the since disavowed memo about Goolsee shows the desperation.
Posted by: UrsaM | Apr 19, 2008 5:01:04 AM
Quick, let's have another "debate" so we can ask her about this.
Posted by: Jim B | Apr 19, 2008 4:44:11 AM
HRC never said that she was entirely against NAFTA. She said that she would renegotiate parts of it that are not working. Wow. What part of negotiate do you all not get?
Posted by: OMG | Apr 19, 2008 4:11:10 AM
"The AP said that the memo "was widely distributed within the Canadian government" and describes an "introductory" meeting with Canada's consul general in Chicago, Georges Rioux. It was written by Joseph DeMora, a consulate official who also attended. According to The AP, DeMora wrote 1,300 words describing many topics covered, including this about NAFTA:
DeMora memo: "[Goolsbee] was frank in saying that the primary campaign has been necessarily domestically focused, particularly in the Midwest, and that much of the rhetoric that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political maneuvering than policy. On NAFTA, Goolsbee suggested that Obama is less about fundamentally changing the agreement and more in favour of strengthening/clarifying language on labour mobility and environment and trying to establish these as more `core' principles of the agreement.
. . . Noting anxiety among many U.S. domestic audiences about the U.S. economic outlook, Goolsbee candidly acknowledged the protectionist sentiment that has emerged, particularly in the Midwest, during the primary campaign. . . . [He] cautioned that this messaging should not be taken out of context and should be viewed as more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans."
Factcheck.org----Now who has the right to critcize McCain or Clinton on this issue? Certainly not Sen. Obama.
Posted by: Ohplease! | Apr 19, 2008 3:30:41 AM
lol.
Yes, let's talk about MICHIGAN!!!!!!
and bring up FLORIDA TOO!!!!
Posted by: John | Apr 19, 2008 3:22:14 AM
I think some of you truly don't get it. It matters little at this time whether Obama is ahead of her. She is now nine points ahead in PA ( Rasmussen's new report) She is ahead 55% in IN, 62% in Kentucky, 55% in WV, and etc. Obama is WAAAAAY behind McCain Florida, when Hillary beats McCain in Florida. Say it with me...You are going to a convention. She will over take him in popular vote, not to mention Dean said they will have to seat Florida at the convention. It all comes down to the super delegates. Why do none of you understand that? It isn't hard to get. She isn't going to drop out, and people don't want her to. It's obvious. I'm glad I'm Independent, because I can't handle crazy liberal logic anymore.
And to all you Obama supporters on this article, who are actually trashing Hillary about NAFTA...The word hypocrit dances in my head.
As trivial as the flag thing is, and certainly should not be a reason for anyone not to vote for/against someone, I guess the reason the whole thing got started was because Obama did actually tell the media that he wasn't going to wear them. While I think it's an absurd issue, at least I know where the heck it got started.
"Obama did a bit of historical rewriting regarding his previous statements on wearing a U.S. flag pin in his lapel.
Obama: I have never said that I don't wear flag pins or refuse to wear flag pins. This is the kind of manufactured issue that our politics has become obsessed with. ...
Actually, last year he told an interviewer for station KCRG-TV in Cedar Rapids, Iowa:
Obama, Oct. 2007: I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest. Instead, I'm gonna try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism.
And ABC News quoted him as saying that wearing flag pins had become "a substitute for ... true patriotism":"
Sometimes little things become huge for no reason, but don't act as though the reason is because those people are bigots.
Posted by: Ohplease! | Apr 19, 2008 3:21:21 AM
This blogger is totally inaccurate. He neglects to report facts. And by facts, I mean something accurate. Yes, there was a conversation with Goolsbee. The AP quoted him, which of course he denies. There have been numerous facts and quotes excluded from this article, so I'll referr you to factcheck.org instead of this drivel. Let's face it...Both of these candidates supprt NAFTA. I don't think it's a lot, but they want to reform it. They need to stop acting like they hate it. Just own up that you want to reform it, and tell the voters who don't understand, why it's important.
Posted by: Ohplease! | Apr 19, 2008 3:03:38 AM
Wow I've never seen such craziness!! The Clinton supporter make it seem like Hillary is their family member and shes not! RELAX!! I didnt see any of you making some of the $109 million dollars the Clintons raked in since leaving office. Lets all take a step back before we get Obsessed. I support Obama but will gladly support Clinton if she wins. Both are similar and equally better than McCain. We need to start focusing on McCain and his warmongering instead of Clinton Obama. Let these to sort it out by votes not by our comments. We need our comments to serve as john McCain's enemy while he receives a free pass at every mistake he commits
Posted by: Phil | Apr 19, 2008 2:55:28 AM
Why did Obama endorse the free trade agreement with Peru?
Posted by: libre | Apr 19, 2008 2:20:10 AM
Ayers, Rezko, Rev,. Wright, Michelle this relationships plus his lack of command on the issues are proof that Obama is unelectable. Pennsylvania voters and DNC should see this, if not Obama may be the nominee but we will lose the White House to McCain.
Posted by: libre | Apr 19, 2008 2:17:18 AM
this article is from the Electronic Intifada written by Ali Ahbumina about obama and his Up front rethorics (lies)
"Over the years since I first saw Obama speak I met him about half a dozen times, often at Palestinian and Arab-American community events in Chicago including a May 1998 community fundraiser at which Edward Said was the keynote speaker. In 2000, when Obama unsuccessfully ran for Congress I heard him speak at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a University of Chicago professor. On that occasion and others Obama was forthright in his criticism of US policy and his call for an even-handed approach to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.
The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing.
As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, "Hey, I'm sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be more up front." He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, "Keep up the good work!"
But Obama's gradual shift into the AIPAC camp had begun as early as 2002 as he planned his move from small time Illinois politics to the national scene. In 2003"
Posted by: ruthmatters | Apr 19, 2008 1:41:56 AM
An Obama economic adviser, Austan Goolsbee, met with Canadian officials and left the impression he was assuring them not to take Obama's anti-NAFTA rhetoric too seriously.
THIS NEWS IS MORE DAMAGING FOR OBAMA
Posted by: Udin | Apr 19, 2008 1:28:44 AM
How about District 11 in Chicago? The south side of Chicago is a hell-hole--in spite of being represented by Obama his entire political life--how's he gonna fix a country if he can't fix a city..???
Posted by: Moehammad | Apr 19, 2008 1:24:19 AM
Obama said: I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate.
Googele it as: Obama was the first to play the race card
Posted by: Sue | Apr 19, 2008 1:20:21 AM
This is so childish. Hillary supporters are running out of ways to excuse her lies and her unethical behavior. To distract from that, and from the real issues they invent this fictional 'finger'. That is pathetic. There is no reason for Obama to give a finger to anyone; Hillary supporters are imagining things. They need to face the reality that Hillary is losing.
The person who wrote that Obama is unpresidential and unelectable is a bigot. I think his race bothers you more than anything else. YOu don't think a black man looks like a president, so you are willing to vote for a white man or a white woman.
Posted by: Cactusflower | Apr 19, 2008 12:42:21 AM
I BET ALL OBAMA'S SUPPORTER THAT criticized ABC ARE the weather underground people, BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID TO SHOW OBAMA MASK with bill ayers, as asking in the debate, OR THESE PEOPLE WHO CRITIZISED ABC ARE member of Rev. Wright's church.... OR FARAKHAN SUPPORTER!
AMERICA BEWARE THE WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING!
Posted by: Ckerry | Apr 19, 2008 12:39:04 AM
OBAMA SAID “I am the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyist” - LIAR- The record shows quite the opposite. According to USA Today, Obama’s campaign fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show. Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator’s presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama’s campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows.
These 38 fundraisers for Barack Obama's presidential campaign work for law firms that have lobbying operations in Washington, D.C. The dollar figure reflects the minimum amount each has pledged to raise for the campaign.
BUNDLER
MIN. PLEDGE LOCATION FIRM
Scott Harris $200,000 DC Harris, Wiltshire and Grannis
Allan J. Katz
$200,000 FL Akerman Senterfitt
Michael Lawson $200,000 CA Skadden, Arps
John Levi $200,000 IL Sidley Austin
Karol Mason $200,000 GA Alston & Bird
Thomas J. Perrelli $200,000 VA Jenner & Block
Thomas A. Reed $200,000 VA Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis
Christina Tchen $200,000 IL Skadden, Arps
Tony West $200,000 CA Morrison & Foerster
Mark L. Alderman $100,000 PA Wolf, Block, Schorr and Solis-Cohen
Timothy M. Broas $100,000 MD Winston & Strawn
Peter Bynoe $100,000 IL DLA Piper
Gregory B. Craig $100,000 DC Williams & Connolly
Norman Eisen $100,000 DC Zuckerman Spaeder
Nicole Lamb-Hale $100,000 MI Foley & Lardner
Andrew Schapiro $100,000 NY Mayer Brown
Charles C. Adams Jr. $50,000 Switzerland Hogan & Hartson
David Burd $50,000 DC Arnold & Porter
Tom Cole $50,000 IL Sidley Austin
Michael H. Dardzinski $50,000 China Reed Smith
Howard W. Gutman $50,000 MD Williams & Connolly
Jeff Horwitz $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
David C. Jacobson $50,000 IL Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal
Hrishi Karthikeyan $50,000 DC Covington & Burling
Ronald Kirk $50,000 TX Vinson & Elkins
William T. Lake $50,000 DC WilmerHale
Edward Lazarus $50,000 CA Akin Gump
Jack Levin $50,000 IL Kirkland & Ellis
Kenneth G. Lore $50,000 DC Bingham McCutchen
Charles B. Ortner $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose
Susan Pravda $50,000 MA Foley & Lardner
Paul N. Roth $50,000 NY Schulte Roth & Zabel
John Schmidt $50,000 IL Mayer Brown
Robert M. Sussman* $50,000 DC Latham & Watkins
Kathryn Thomson $50,000 VA Sidley Austin
Barry B. White $50,000 MA Foley Hoag
Steven M. Zager $50,000 TX Akin Gump
Robert S. Litt n/a MD Arnold & Porter
Posted by: Ckerry | Apr 19, 2008 12:33:26 AM
Obama said to Iran during the debate: "that an attack on Israel is an attack on our strongest ally in the region, ...one ...I would consider an attack that is unacceptable, and the United States would take appropriate action."
Can we trust him for Israel, when him and , Ayers and had teamed up for three years on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago charitable organization. Together, they voted to donate $75,000 of the largesse they controlled to the Arab American Action Network. The AAAN was co-founded by Rashid Khalidi, a longtime supporter of Palestinian “resistance” attacks against Israel, which he openly regards as a racist, apartheid state. Despite considerable evidence to the contrary, Khalidi peremptorily denies having been a PLO operative or having directed its official press agency for six years (from 1976 to 1982). AMERICA BEWARE THE WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING!
Posted by: Ckarry | Apr 19, 2008 12:28:53 AM
MANY YEARS AGO I LISTENED TO AN OPERA AT LASCALA ON THE RADIO. THE TENOR STANK. THE AUDIENCE YELLED"FIASCO".
I WILL NOW REMEMBER THIS EVERY TIME I SEE ANY COVERAGE OF THIS ELECTION BY ABC.YOUR INSULTING SO CALLED DEBATE THE OTHER NITE PROVES THAT THE AMERICAN MEDIA IS INTENT ON DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY. HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME. IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY YOU WOULD BE HANGING IN THE GALLOWS. I HAVE HAD IT.
Posted by: GERALD BLAKE | Apr 19, 2008 12:27:11 AM
OBAMA LIES, PEOPLE DIES ... google it!
AMERICA BEWARE THE WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING!