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Miska - people are going to die with or without healthcare...it's a fact of life. With universal healthcare, different people will die because of rationing.

FACT: Obama's health plan would leave 15 million Americans without coverage.

FACT: People have died, are dying, and will continue to die for lack of health care coverage.

There's no excuse for allowing this kind of thing happen again.

Reposted with corrections:

This story is hilarious because it completely fails to acknowledge something extremely ironic - if Hillary Clinton had not failed so miserably in her attempt at healthcare reform in 1993, this woman may not have been in boat that she was.

Jake and others have completely failed to even mention the fact that in 1992 there was a huge mandate in the country for healthcare reform. Bill Clinton won th election in large part because he promised that he was the best candidate to tackle our healthcare system. And he would bring affordable health insurance to all Americans. It was such top priority that he chose none other than his own own wife, Hillary, to find a solution to America's healthcare crisis. Of course, Hillary had lots of meet and greets on Capitol Hill and many well publicized secret meetings with healthcare consultants. But at the end of the day, her healthcare reform package landed like a flaming pile of pooh! It was universally hated by politicians in both parties and voters alike.

In fact, Hillary's healthcare disaster was the prime reason the Republicans swept the '94 mid-term elections. The first time the Democrats didn't control the House of Representatives in over 40 years. Bill Clinton's approval ratings were never lower than when Hillary completely botched healthcare reform. Amazing, considering the fact that he was impeached.

And as Hillary's recently released records point out, after her healthcare reform debacle, she basically faded away and decided to reinvent herself in the mold of more traditional First Ladies.

So if you think Hillary Clinton is the person to fix healthcare, you're either too young, have an extremely poor memory or you know virtually nothing about Hillary and her absolute biggest blunder (her INEVITABLE nomination being the exception).

Obama asked Wright to stop? Link?

It's really funny how repeating OBAMA'S OWN WORDS is "bigotry" and "slander".

"Besides, I'm not in Obama's church..."

but you know enough to pass judgement. You know enough to claim 20 years of FAILURE. You know enough to slander the honor of a good an honorable reverend. All to tear down Obama. Throw the kitchen sink at him, you will.

"So...did Obama actually ask Wright to stop? I didn't think so."

Ah, yes he did, actually. But you think you know better and your certainly not going to give up critizing Obama's character. Obama can't get a break from you, no sir.

Obama's church is already united and doing just fine in spite of your bigoted opinion. What a horrible sense of hatred you live in. Does it hurt inside?

"the Republicans are going to dismantle Sen. Obama …if he wins the Nomination.."

We've had 8 years of Republican predictions about what will happen in the future. They've been wrong every time. So now they want to brag about how they will dismantle Obama if he wins, so "be scared" and vote for Clinton instead. People, are we really falling for this argument?

"I simply used Obama's own characterization of Wright's rhetoric. "

to accomplish what exactly? I say it appears you think your quite clever to claim that Obama is "unwilling or ineffective at promoting unity in a church, how can he do so for a whole country and its enemies, foreign and domestic?" You might as well say, "he'll never get me to unite so he is a failure (stomp)." I say Obama is extremely effective at healing the wounds that divide this country. He's much better at it than I am, based upon this thread of conversation. I gave it my best, I did.

"I have never heard Obama call on Rev Wright to actually STOP his divisive rhetoric."

And I have never heard Clinton call on Mark Penn to actually STOP his divisive rhetoric.

Touche

Please stop making assumptions and personal attachs. I have never watched Rush Limbaugh. I simply used Obama's own characterization of Wright's rhetoric. Apparently, it is BIGOTED to rely on Obama's JUDGEMENT. OK.

No, I have never heard Obama call on Rev Wright to actually STOP his divisive rhetoric.

"Simply loving his Reverend" did not require that Obama remain silent in the face of divisive rhetoric for 20 years. Obama is running for President and should be accountable for the sincerity of his convictions and ability to promote those convictions.

As President, he will have to be far more active in addressing far more divisive forces. If he was unwilling or ineffective at promoting unity in a church, how can he do so for a whole country and its enemies, foreign and domestic?

Rev. Wright has 100 times more hours logged giving unity sermons but none of those were played during that 30 second soundbite taken out of context which you have used to pass judgement upon him. And then you pass judgement on Obama for standing by him.

Obama's judgement of Rev. Wright is much more credible given his relationship of 20 years than is your judgement based upon the likes of Rush Limbaugh. So can you see why Barack's rejection of Rev. Wrights' statements isn't considered bigoted but yet your judgements are considered bigoted? If so than there's hope still for healing. Please don't be a hater.

"My stand is based on the notion that if you believe in unity, you stand up for it when it is being attacked by divisive rhetoric."

This is exactly what Obama has done, if you'd bother to listen to him.

Obama is free to characterize it however he sees fit. So am I and so are you. The difference between Obama and and many who have logged their judgements here is that these bigots FAULT Obama for simply loving his Reverand for 20 years inspite of his divisive comments. You people will condemn Obama for anything. He's damn if he do, damn if he don't with many of you here. I'm all for unity, too. So what one must do against slander like found here when one is committed to "unity"? eh? Turn the other cheek?

Obama can vote "present" all he wants in the Illinois Senate. A vote "present" is the same as "no" while signalling a willingness to negotiate. Perfectly reasonable thing to do. Of course, you want to mis-characterize it just like you mis-characterize Rev. Wright and his sermons. Rev. Wright isn't even close to being as divisive as many of the bigoted comments on this blog. But since you've based your bigoted position on a 30 second soundbite taken out of context, I can understand your confusion.

Didn't Obama have that right too? Why didn't he exercise it by walking out during those sermons? By asking Rev. Wright to reconsider and/or stop his divisive rhetoric?

If Obama's only reaction to divisiveness is to vote "present", how sincere or effective is he?

Look, the point is that if there had been universal health care, this woman and her baby may have both survived.

PRIORITIES, PEOPLE.

A prominent Southern California university has developed a scientific test to determine when Hillary is lying. After exhaustive testing in the field, this test is now 100% accurate. It’s developers have been awarded the Noble Prize for their historic breakthrough in the field of Mendacity Determination. The test works like this: if Hillary’s lips are moving, she is lying.

To questioner:

If your comment is directed toward my post, you'll notice I said NOTHING ABOUT RACE. Look it up in a dictionary. Bigot does not equal Racist. The group of bigots in this world is a much larger group of people. And the fascists who call Rev. Wright un-american are not racists either, they're fascists.

But of course to you anything about Obama is racist. "See what I mean?"

What apology do you want to hear? I'm sorry that you hate Obama.

There is so much hatred expressed by posters here toward Obama. Obama doesn't need to apologize for Rev. Wright. The reverend is an honorable American using his first amendment right to criticize American foreign policy. The chickens have come home to roost. This is true. Yet the "patriots" in this country want to crucify Obama for associating with Rev. Wright because they are offended that anyone would suggest America is responsible for how we are perceived in the world. The fascists claiming "America is great" are no different than the radicals claiming "Allah is great". Both are claim righteousness in killing the other side. Thank God for Obama, a principled and intellegent man who tells the truth even when the bigots in this country can't stand to hear it. He has revealed more about him than any other candidate, but the bigots in this blog haven't bothered to read his books or do real research. 30 second soundbites taken out of context do just fine for these ignorant folk. This country is filled with spiritually sick and wounded people. God help us.

i notice that none of those knowledgeable folk who said that Hillary lied on this issue, have apologized.

This, pretty much is the story of her campaign.

Someone would tell a tale, another would embellish it, someone else would embroider the embellishments.

None would retract it.

Now if the story were about B O, however, somehow "race" would enter the premises and his followers would become apoplectic, noisily defenseive and slanderously Offensive.

Which is why I say,:

GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!!

Laura, to the contrary, it shows alot about OBAMA that Hillary supporters will vote for McCain instead of him. No one trusts or respects him enough to vote for him. With McCain we know what we are getting, with Obama we do not know one thing true about him. The unknown is sometimes scarier than the known. If Hillary is not the Dem candidate then more than, it is estimated 80% of her supporters will vote for McCain, not out of spite but because he (unfortunately) is a better candidate than Obama!

Dear Tired.....12:31:13. Funny how you can twist the one year time line. It's alittle more difficult to twist the four year Selma time line, isn't it?

Hillary Clinton is a compulsive liar. I do not want a president who is a compulsive liar. She lies and smiles when she lies to the american people as if lying to the american people come naturally. She lied about almost dying and about a woman being denied health care. She lied about sniper fire is disrespectful to our troops and to the voters who loved one's were killed. Stop lying enough is enough. If she can lie about possible death and smile while lying to th american people than that is scary. She is a compulsive liar and that is a fact. If you vote for Hillary than you must think it is okay to lie to the american people.

The only shame I see in this story is that Hillary told of just ONE person's experience ... even if there is some controversy over the accuracy of the details.

I'd gladly share with her my story for use all across the country, because I'm extremely angry about how a corrupt claims adjuster was allowed to make fraudulent statements to deny my Workers' Comp coverage after I was injured in the line of duty as a volunteer firefighter. Why was he not punished for committing this felony? Because Governor Schwarzenegger is determined to shift the financial burden from employers to injured workers.

Abuses are taking place every day throughout our nation. And people are being permanently injured every day by medical personnel who make mistakes. Hillary absolutely should call attention to the problems until the day comes that we have no more abuses and mistakes in our healthcare system. Our lives depend on it.

Dsmn staight, this is a true story!
Unfortunately, some people refuse to recognize the truth..

It just points up so poignantly the NEED for universal health care.

Obama's family is covered by great health care.

So is Hillary's.

But WE are not! and that's why I'm voting for Clinton.

GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!!!

If you reallu want to know what type of president Obama would be just take a look at Mass. Gov. Deval Patrick,Axelrods first mess he sold to the public. Patrick is Obama and Obam is Patrick they read the same speaches "Word Don't Matter". Patric is totally out of his element he is not capable of the job of Gov. He just made a huge book deal when he can't get a bill passed in senate. The entire state of Mass. is having buyers regret. The presidency is too imprtant a job to take a chance on someone Axelrod sells to you. I wish ABC would do a story on how poorly Patrick is doing in Mass and conect the dots to see how poorly Obama would do as president.

It would not be possible for the campaign to "vett" this story because of HIPPA laws. In fact, I agree with the poster who said that the hospital itself may have broken some of those same laws when it released the name of the victim.

What does it matter about the details? Don't we all know a story like this one?

So Clinton's story is true? Well I guess the media "misspoke."

To those who are saying "she should have checked it out . . ."

Just TRY to get verified information on anyone since Patient Confidentiality went into effect. My daughter cannot even find out my room number when I am in the hospital - and she has power of attorney as clearly stated on my chart. It would not be possible (in fact, might even violate laws, depending on the state) for a political campaign to "validate" this story from anyone but a family member or friend. This was a sheriff's deputy making a public statement in the community where it happened! Why wouldn't she believe him?????

I work as a physician in a Catholic hospital in California. We have a law here that all pregnant women are entitled to coverage by MEDI-CAL for their pregnacy and delivery if they are not covered by insurance. This also applies to undocumented aliens who come from outside the USA to have their babies. There also is a law that no one who presents to an emergency room can be refused treatment for non payment. I am not sure of the laws in other states, but if a patient comes to our hospital with a problem, they must be seen and evaluated by a physician. The case in Ohio was tragic, but I think the real facts need to be discovered before we condemn the health care system. I feel people should have to bear some responsibility for the cost of their own health care. If the woman who died did not even have $100 to pay the hospital, how was she going to support a newborn baby?
The lack of health insurance is certainly a big problem for many people with large medical bills, but I am concerned about the government creating another huge entitlement program without the means of funding it. If you look at the Medicare and Medicaid system we have now, they are cutting back reimbursement every year and still running up huge deficits. It is so bad that many physicians are going to stop accepting Medicare and Medicaid soon because it doesn't even cover your overhead expenses.
Unfortunately, our healthcare system is very complex and has a lot of vested interests who don't want to change it. It may be that some safety net system for those who have no coverage is possible without making drastic changes, but it will be quite expensive and will obviously require some funding source.
I think the next President should appoint a committee of people to study the problem and propose several options for a solution. Then these proposals can be debated and agreed to by the American People and Congress with a plan for implementation and a stable source of funding. Unfortunately, I am not optimistic that this will ever take place.

Obama's comments led conservatives and media commentators to question his patriotism.

First Obama kicked his American flag pin to the curb. Now Obama has a new round of patriotism problems. Wait until you hear what the White House hopeful didn't do during the singing of the national anthem.

Dont get mad because the statement came out of Obama's mouth on how he doesn't like or will ever wear the pin.

Obama will be crushed if the nomonee!

NO NEED FOR FOREIGN POLICY FROM VP?
Last night at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Obama took a question on what he's looking for in a running mate. "I would like somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I'm not as expert on," he said
"Ironically, this is an area--foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident"
"It's ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be Commander-in-Chief. Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world. This I know. When Senator Clinton brags 'I've met leaders from eighty countries'--I know what those trips are like! I've been on them.
I've researched Hillary's trips, my estimation of her foreign travels is that they were sometimes quite a bit more than a dance, a briefing and a tour. What Obama's remarks last night in San Francisco reveal, however, is his self-confidence--to the point of cockiness--right now. This is exactly the same demeanor on display last week in Pennsylvania.

In October, Obama told Iowa television station KCRG that he decided to stop wearing a U.S. flag lapel pin during the run-up to the Iraq war because it had become "a substitute for, I think, true patriotism."

"I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest. Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great and, hopefully, that will be a testimony to my patriotism," Obama said.

Michelle Obama told an audience in Milwaukee, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country.

This is how Michelle and Obama think of our Country!! Do we really need more people to hate our country?

No, Hill's story was false. Sloppy reporting. According to the young woman's aunt, she did not go to the local hospital, because she owed them money and feared they would demand $100. She went to the distant hospital, which cared for her.

Hill's conclusion was: "People without insurance are more likely to die than people with insurance." But her story doesn't bolster that point. Even the insured run up unpaid bills. If the woman had gone to the local facility with pre-eclampsia, I suspect they would have worked out an arrangement about the unpaid balance, especially since she now has insurance and a job.

Use your head, Jake. This is not "fundamentally true." It's a tragic anecdote irrelevant to Hill's point.

It is really sad that this young lady died at 35. However, she did not die because she did not have health insurance. She had it and the hospital tried her. So how could the HRC's story fundamentally true?

Why is it so hard to believe that a hospital would let someone die? It happens quite often unfortunately, especially if one is without medical insurance. It must have been a year or so ago - about the woman who lay bleeding on a hospital emergency room floor and no one attended to her - they just let her lay and bleed to death. Some hospitals have become a place to go to die, not to go to get better. And it is mostly because of lack of insurance. They are just as greedy as the oil companies, worshiping the almighty dollar. They don't give a hoot about people.

What happened to my post?

Hillary is the only one smart enough to keep up BUsh's March to teh Freedoms!

VOTE HILLZ 2o08!!!

OK FOLKS...

LET'S GET REAL HERE....DO YOU SEE HOW THE GOVT RUNS THINGS? DO YOU SEE SOCIAL SECURITY? DO YOU SEE OUR SCHOOLS? DO YOU SEE OUR GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE? HOW ABOUT THOSE COURAGEOUS POLITICIANS WHO SIT ON THEIR BUTTS AND NAME CALL BACK AND FORTH AND RUN FOR OFFICE 4 YEARS AHEAD OF TIME INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY SOLVING THESE CRISES!
OK, THIS IS HOW A GOVERNMENT (SOCIALIST) HEALTH CARE SYSTEM WOULD BE. LONG LINES, MAYBE IF YOU HAD A HEART ATTACK YOU'D ONLY WAIT A DAY TO SEE A REAL DOCTOR. OF COURSE THE DOCS WOULD BE FAR AND FEW BETWEEN SINCE THE GOVT. PROGRAMS WOULDN'T PAY WELL, SO ALL THE GOOD ONES WOULD BE IN A "PRIVATE PRACTICE" WHICH WOULD BE OVER THE TOP EXPENSIVE FOR A LUCKY FEW WHO COULD AFFORD IT...OR ANOTHER INDUSTRY. ALL YOU FOLKS HAVE TO DO IS GO TO ENGLAND. IF YOU DON'T NEED TEETH, GO TO ENGLAND. IF YOU WANT TO SEE A "CLOSED SIGN" ON YOUR DOCTORS DOOR, GO TO ENGLAND.THEY ALL GO GOLF WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT, AFTER ALL, THE GOVT. GUARANTEES THEIR PAY, WHO NEEDS TO PUT IN A FULLS DAY WORK. THERE IS NO INCENTIVE AS THERE IS IN THE GOOD OL U.S....IT IS CALLED MONETARY COMPENSATION BY INDIVIDUALS AND FREE ENTERPRISE. THAT IS WHY THE ENGLISH AND EVERYONE ELSE COMES HERE TO THE U.S. IT IS NOT PERFECT, BUT MAYBE IF THE GOVERNMENT WOULD STAY OUT OF IT, IT WILL BE EVENTUALLY!! I FOR ONE WANT A FREE SYSTEM TO CONTINUE AND WILL NOT VOTE SOCIALISTS OR COMMUNISTS INTO OFFICE. TAKE A LOOK TO ALL OTHER COUNTRIES AND THEN NOTICE THEY ALL "LOOK TO US"....WE ARE THE GREATEST NATION ON THIS PLANET AND I AM SICK OF THE WHINERS! LET'S PROP US OUR COUNTRY AND PROMOTE SOLUTIONS AND PROGRESSIVE ANSWERS NOW...OR MOVE OVERSEAS AND LEARN, DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT...WE ALL CAME HERE TO ESCAPE WHAT IT IS HILLARY AND BARAK ARE PROPOSING. lET'S ALL JUST LOVE AND APPRECIATE THIS GREAT COUNTRY AND WHAT IT OFFERS....GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

OK its official now Hillary is going to go on record trying to look presidential claiming to be one of the first, BEFORE of Obama ???? of course to suggest that Bush skip the Olympic introductions.

It was alright for her & Bill to receive illegal contributions from China and vote for "favorite trade nation status" while the Genocide of a million Rwandans was being carried out in the 90''s.

Let''s see now. I was for China''s free trade nation status" before the illegal contributions were discovered. The Rwandans were just Poor Black Folk. It was easy to look the other way. Just show me the money! SO SAD!

What is wrong with this Hillary? She was against NAFTA before she voted for it. She was against the War before she voted for it.

I actually started criticizing the War in Iraq BEFORE HE DID. Look would I LIE? Says Clinton so there I rest my case.

What is it with this Hillary? Another phony Pa. Ad. She certainly has a lot of Pa. Horses coming out to her rescue, take her by the hand, spoon feed her do her talking again. Only here in Pa. we know these Horses and which part of the Horse this talk is coming from.

"lou" says: "you imbecile - so did 99.5% of the Senate vote for war when proposed by G.W. Bush. Obama wasn't even in the U.S. Senate then. Do you actually think it was Clinton's vote that took us to war?"

Not to put too fine a point on it, for 99.5% of the Senate to vote for something, one member would need to be cut in half. The vote to authorize the iraq war was 77-23. For the mathematically challenged, that is, uh, 77%

RL his father came the year before and yes the Kennedy's did support him finacially so what happened was he misspoke as to the year his father arrived but that was the difference. Are you able to see the difference in misspeaking (one year off) as to a lie (Bosnia sniper)

And to Jacob-Obama voted to FUND the war. He Was NOT yet in the senate to vote against it. Speculation as to how he ACTUALLY would have voted since he ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE A VOTE. Woulda...Coulda...Shoulda.

I never believe the anecdotal stories coming from campaigns anyway, I am glad that abc has chosen to further investigate the matter. Perhaps the times should try to investigate and not throw accusations around disguised as stories

Who cares about Hillary's lies, the most important thing is this...

SHE VOTED FOR WAR.

Even if it wasn't minimum, the average difference for an assistant manager is about fifty cents over another employee. If your salary you make less per hour than your employees. So can you change your life with fifty cents an hour in our current financial climate.I keep seeing people in the media assume that food managers make good money. As someone with ten years in all kinds of positions from dishwasher to manager, that is a falsehood.

Dear Stop to think, When you work for minimum, you cannot afford to eat three meals a day, drive a car or pay 100 in medical bills, do you even know if those other appointments she had could have diagnosed the issue she kept seeking treatment on, therein negating the appointment and the 100 requested. You know what assumptions do right. It does not seem that you see the whole picture and that you are a little out of touch with many of your fellow citizens. That would negate the idea that she has managed poorly and that perhaps the reality is that if she were cared for properly at prior appointments, the overall cost to all of us and most of all her would be much less. Are you saying she deserved to get shuffled around to death while pregnant because she didn't have money? Do you have any idea how much it costs just to get basic care while pregnant in comparison to her income? I doubt it for such an arrogant, ignorant comment that so callously trivializes this womans situation and the loss of her and her child's life.

After someone is caught in a lie people are reluctant to believe them. When someone is caught in multiple lies only a fool would believe anything they have to say even if it might be true. I’m sure there are many people who don’t get adequate care because of a lack of insurance. Some don’t get proper care because of an insurance plan that has to pre-approve procedures that may be life saving. Hillary’s plan would give care to all, poor care. The original version allowed the possibility for an illegal alien making $60,000 per year to receive aid before an American citizen living below the poverty level. The subsequent plan does not provide for citizenship verification or enforcement and still does not give aid to those who need it most before allowing it to others. .... Hillary’s plan is just incentive to more illegal aliens to come to the US. Her tales of snipers and failed enlistments should give us all cause to question everything she has to say. I believe it to be a lie until proven to be the truth. And I may need a lot of proof.

Thank you, Jake for trying to set the record straight. I'm still looking for an Obama supporter to admit that the Kennedy story about bringing Obama's father to the US and the Selma story about his parents conceiving him are simply not true.

The fact that the clinton's practically own many democrats because they have helped there career's and still can win the support of the super delagates is a prime example that even the people that know her best don't belive in her abilities.

I read where she had unpaid bills and the clinic asked for $100. Now, call me crazy, but even those with insurance who do not pay the balance of bills would be charged the same $100. The issue is not one of a lack of insurance but poor personal financial management. And what gives Clinton and the press the right to discuss a personal medical issue publically? Have they no shame?

Thank you for pursuing this Jake. I often miss getting the rest of the story. Health care is not always available to everyone. If you are accepted at the urgent care center or try to get answers or actual diagnosis, good luck. If you are uninsured, they only treat the symptoms and you can't get answers. Ex: Mother, four visits to ER, telling her she had indigestion, finally thousands of dollars in bills later, they realize she needs her gal bladder out. As soon as she had the surgery they set up to garnish her wages for that and the multiple ER visits. She comes home, develops boils, after taking care of her, so do me and Dad. She goes back to the hospital, they tell her it is a minor infection, lance it and send her on her way. NO one in the house had insurance. Within two months, the boils were re occurring and coming back stronger. They tell her that it is only getting that bad because her immune system is down. Long story short and more circling of this issue ran up another huge list of bills with no official diagnoses. I just kept lancing and using antibiotic ointment on mine as we had no reason to believe it was dangerous. Within eight weeks of my first boil, I had lanced about twenty myself. I was in the hospital in a different town, they said I was close to death, I needed cultures run and that I had MRSA. I am sure that it would have saved us and the system tons of money and our overall health, and given us information on how to protect others if they had diagnosed any of those issues early on. It has been five years and neither one of my parents have been able to get a diagnosis no matter how many boils they get cut out in ER. My husband has been trying to get a diagnosis from the local medical centers for some aggressive fungus he picked up in the military that started spreading on him and causing abdominal pain and swelling. One care center told him they could not identify it so it must be in his head. Another, tells him it is only yeast those treatments had no effect, yet another tells him that it is unidentifiable, to try a six month run on Ketocerozole. They neglect to mention he needed to get a liver function test halfway through. They did say to expect harsh side effects. It has been two years since seeking help with this, now he is sicker than when we started, the medications given to him without diagnosis have caused over five pounds of weight loss each month since(over fifty pounds), sores in his mouth,tired all the time. I am watching him waste away. We have yet to turn 30. Now the same medical group wants us to pay for specialists to fix the new problem created by the medications prescribed without diagnosis, they are making him go to two other doctors first that can do nothing for his situation but charge him for the visit and refer him up the line and assess his overall health-HA!. I assume our garnishments will start soon after. Those of us that need the most help and have the least are being pushed aside over and over and receiving treatment without diagnosis. For some reason they don't seem to worry about the fact that they are not giving us any answers, taking our money and making us sicker with all the guessing. We would go to the other local hospital but the sign out front reads: If you are uninsured, you do not have cash to pay, and you are not in immediate danger of death, seek treatment elsewhere, you will be turned away. That is the health care system that we are dealing with I am sure it is the same one the girl from Ohio had to deal with. It cost her her life, so far it has almost cost me mine and is now threatening my husbands, and have made my parents life one with many ER bills and scars. I understand her plight all to well regardless of all the "question" others seem to have. Who cares who started shuffling her around it happens all over the country, it's broken, we need to fix it. To those of you that think we aren't already paying the rates that universal health care require aren't having there tax returns and paychecks gouged out by hospitals that see you over and over and don't give you any answers. It would be nice if we got the benefits of such a system that we are already paying for.

The story was embelished from what was told to her! That said, she embelishes everything anyway. This is surely not as big as your campain manager and other campain contributers pushing for a trade deal that you say you don't want! These are people who want to run the country and during a campaign that you are running, you are doing what is against your own strategy! WOW!!!

is it not great to be hillary clinton and tell stories that later are found out to be false and be able to blame someone else.? she should stepdown for the good of the party and nation. i do not want her to answer the phone at any time ay or night.

The undeniable evidence here is that Clinton accepted at face value without any investigation whatsoever a story told by a stranger who happened to be wearing a police uniforn. Now think what she would do in the Oval Office when a unknown lobbyist comes in to see her with another sad story ...

truthhurts: You are wrong about Hillary's health care proposal. She wants everyone to have health INSURANCE like that enjoyed by members of congress - at reasonable rates. For those unable to afford it at any price, there will be gov't programs to ensure they also are insured. You'll continue to choose your own doctor, hospital, etc. Please don't spread false information.

The story was blown out of context,and added to to make it more dramatic,that's a Clinton trait.Clinton should take up script writing for her hollywood friends.She seems to be more talented in that area,either way we look at it ,Clinton ha a problem with telling LIES PERIOD!

You are just trying to justify another HRC lie. What you need to ask is why does she continually tell these bold lies? Last week it was the Bosnian sniper fire story, a lie. Previous lies include her Sir Edmund Hillary lie, her Jr High soccer team lie, etc..
Does she think that the American public is so dumb that they will not check? Does she possess such a desire to be liked that she feels the need to constantly insert herself as a significant player into scenarios where she had little or not revelvance? Her lies in the end will undo her. Look at PA. She is dropping like a stone in the polls. If she lose in PA she is done . If she wins by only single digits, it over for her. People want someone who is real and living in the now. They do not want some whose whose personna is contrived.

Jake very well done. It's nice to know that there are still some responsible journalist out there.

Where do I find your interview with John McCain’s lobbyist girl friend? I missed your interview the first time you ran it.

Some people’s fascination with Clinton, despite all her lies , divisive politics, and “mis-spoke” incidents is quite mystifying, bordering on blind acceptance. This is not about gender or some media conspiracy as some people try to make it out to be, but rather, it is about trust and credibility, and the scarcity of truth in Hilary’s statements. The fact that she resorts to lies to get votes indicates that she has minimum respect for her constituents and their intelligence.

The famly is speaking out now and supporting Hillary's story. Will you report that on the TeeVee?

There is another point to this story. It has been reported that when HRC was VP. the senate would have voted for a bipartisan bill that would have greatly increased healtcare . Hillary refused to work with even many of her own party to get this done. She chose instead to "fight " for her own version and instead got nothing. That many have suffered since because they lack healthcare is true . The question is who would be more able to accomplish this .

First, let me state for the record that I don't hate Hillary. I just really, really, really don't want her to be president. As someone stated earlier, politicians hear sob stories by the dozens. When they relay one of those stories to the media, they seem to be attempting to suggest 'if I were president, I wouldn't let this terrible thing happen'. Having been one of the 'working poor' with little or no insurance coverage my whole life, I can tell you this: people are still going to die because of misdiagnosis and inadequate care, and because of simple negligence. Hillary's healthcare tax won't fix that.

Marriann wrote>>>>I don't know why MSNBC network has not taken Chris Matthews and Shuster out and advise them about their promoting of Obama

Why? because the media follows the money - the best bottom line for their corporate sponsors - and they've created rockstar Oblahma.
Without the media promoting Obama 24/7 and concealing his LIES - Obama would be just another senator.

But the pundits excuse Obama's ignorance and inexperience. Discussing the candidates recently on the Economy - George Stephanopolis said - "Obama is getting better." What he didn't say is the truth - Obama has always been LAST to release a major policy position on the Economy - usually copying Hillary and Edwards plans.

And if a female senator had begun plotting her presidential run as soon as she entered the Senate - she'd be bashed for lack of experience.

The media sold us Bush in 2000, the Iraq War - and now Obama.

How did those other 2 work out?

Obama's record on the war IS a fairy tale. And remember - Bill Clinton said Obama is a fairy tale ON THE WAR - not his campaign.

Obama opposed the war when he couldn't vote.
Then as soon as he was elected to the Senate he began voting to fund a war he "opposed" and voting against timelines for withdrawal - for 2 years.

Then - AFTER he becomes a presidential candidate he begins voting against the war.

Yes - it's a fairy tale to believe Obama has "been against the war from the start."

Yet another Obama LIE.

i'm so sick of the liberal media trying to take down hillary clinton and the rest of the republicans. don't let obama and the democrats take over in the white house!

The Obama Camp pushed this story to the NYT and of course, online.
When will the Obama Camp apologize??
ha!

Better yet - when will ABC News report Obama LIED about his father's connection to the Kennedy family??

Obama LIED about his own father in order to obtain the Kennedy endorsement - easily exposed by WaPo last week with tons of available documentation!

But Obamedia is silent about THAT lie because it's Obama's LIE.

The media is concealing damaging info about Obama and manipulating public opinion against Hillary.

isaiah shockley,
"they use the race card, the terrorist name, his pastor, his ties to a atisemitic "

When did the Clinton's ever do any of this if that is what you are implying. They did no such thing. Bill Clinton's comments were miscontrued about the fairy tale and it was by no means racist.