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Is McCain a Pollyana on the Basra Cease Fire?
April 07, 2008 9:48 AM
Speaking to the VFW today in Kansas City, Mo., Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., will attack Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama's plans to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.
"The American people deserve the truth from their leaders," McCain will say, according to his prepared remarks. "They deserve a candid assessment of the progress we have managed to make in the last year in preventing the worst from happening in Iraq, of the very serious difficulties that remain, and of the grave consequences of a hasty, reckless, and irresponsible withdrawal. If we are honest about the opportunities and the risks, I believe they will have the patience to allow us the time necessary to obtain our objectives."
McCain will also say, "that honesty is my responsibility, and it is also the responsibility of Senators Obama and Clinton, as well as Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress. Doing the right thing in the heat of a political campaign is not always the easiest thing. But when 4000 Americans have given their lives so that America does not suffer the worst consequences of our failure in Iraq, it is a necessary thing. In such a grave matter, we must put the nation’s interests before our own ambitions."
But while McCain speaks of candor and honesty, there are questions about comments he made to Fox News Sunday about the cease fire in Basra.
McCain interpreted the events as positive for Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and negative for Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr, when there are reports that seriously undermine that notion.
"It was al-Sadr that declared the ceasefire, not Maliki," McCain said. "With respect, I don’t think Sadr would have declared the ceasefire if he thought he was winning. Most times in history, military engagements, the winning side doesn’t declare the ceasefire."
The context of this is important. First of all, at the end of March al-Maliki declared Iraqi forces would battle the Sadr militia in Basra "to the end" as "a message to all gangs that the state is in charge of the country".
"We entered this battle with determination and we will continue to the end," Maliki said. "No retreat. No talks. No negotiations."
But McClatchy newspapers reports that despite that rhetoric, al Maliki sent two representatives to Qom, Iran, to seek help to obtain a cease fire with Sadr.
Ali al Adeeb of Maliki's Dawa party, and Hadi al Ameri, the head of the Badr Organization, the military wing of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, met with Brig. Gen. Qassem Suleimani, commander of the Quds brigades of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps solicit Suleimani's help to get Sadr to agree to a cease fire.
Within 24 hours, the cease fire was declared by Sadr.
(It should be noted that Suleimani is on a U.S. government terrorist watch list.)
"The statement issued today by (Sadr) is a result of the meetings," Jalal al-Din al Saghir, a leading member of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, told McClatchy. "The government didn't have any disagreement with the Sadrists when it went to the city of Basra. The Sadrist movement is the one that chose to face the government."
"We asked Iranian officials to help us persuade him that we were not cracking down on the Sadr group," added an Iraqi official.
And others in Baghdad -- such as TIME's Charles Crain -- do not share McCain's rosy interpretation of events.
Crain writes that the "very fact of the cease-fire flies in the face of Maliki's proclamation that there would be no negotiations. It is Maliki, and not Sadr, who now appears militarily weak and unable to control elements of his own political coalition."
He adds that the "Iraqi military's offensive in Basra was supposed to demonstrate the power of the central government in Baghdad. Instead it has proven the continuing relevance of anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr." Sadr's ability to call for the cease fire and have it happen so quickly, Crain says, "was an ominous answer to a question posed for months by U.S. military observes: Is Sadr still the leader of a unified movement and military force? The answer appears to be yes."
The question is whether McCain too often displays a tendency towards Pollyana-ish views of the situation in Iraq, post-surge. What do you think?
- jpt
UPDATE: The McCain campaign strenuously objects to my use of "Pollyana" and notes that McCain offered several notes of disapproval in that same interview, saying the results of the battle of Basra "were mixed. Obviously, there were problems. And Maliki, in my view, should have waited until we had concluded the battle of Mosul which is going on as we speak."
McCain also said, "I didn't particularly like the outcome of this thing, but I am convinced that we now have a government that is governing with some effect and a military that is functioning very effectively."
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McCain would be over 80 years old after his second term.
Posted by: maz hess | Apr 9, 2008 6:22:11 AM
I see no evidence to back up the McCain campaign corrections. Iraq is in a civil war and the administration is waging a PR war to blame it on Iran, which is fundamentally inaccurate. The US should have declared victory and left three years ago and not instead have tried to recreate our Philippines occupation in the Middle East.
Posted by: Gary Denton | Apr 7, 2008 9:50:57 PM
Hm. What will McCain's next gaffe be? Check out the 23/6 John McCain Blunder-o-Tron:
Posted by: Eliana | Apr 7, 2008 5:37:16 PM
this is just like Saddam Hussain on the balcony with a bolwer hat and a rifle declaring Victory after the first Gulf War, or Hzebollah declaring Victory after a devastating defeat, or Hamas declaring Victory when Israel gave up Gaza magnanimously in the hope of peace.
Posted by: easa | Apr 7, 2008 5:30:22 PM
a lot of Inconvenient Truths will humiliate and beat the lying and spinning democrats, because most people on the left (fortunately a vast majority closer to the centre) are smartere than their politicians think they are. the truth will prevail however inconvenient that would be.
Posted by: easa | Apr 7, 2008 4:31:29 PM
Ironic that even in his protest about being labeled Pollyana he is Pollyana with this statement: "I didn't particularly like the outcome of this thing, but I am convinced that we now have a government that is governing with some effect and a military that is functioning very effectively."
Considering the facts on the ground included thousands of Iraqi troops abandoning their posts including high ranking commanders during the Basra stand-off. - I guess in McCaint's eyes this is a very effective military.
Posted by: Polyana McAin't | Apr 7, 2008 3:09:36 PM
The Senators speech today contained references to Iran and its participation in support of insurgent groups. I had not heard that clarity before on the issue. The hearing tomorrow with General Petraus might be pretty interesting.
All this “straight talk” stuff was manure to me until I saw McCain speak and listened to his message. He does not pander. The man is honest and will be a Commander and Chief in command. Although I disagree with the Senator on many issues I agree with him on America.
As for his “power” as a speaker, words count. He can deliver a powerful message. Every hardened vet in the audience wiped a tear at some point in his speech. Even the high schoolers were moved. As a critique of his style I would say he does not ask for applause when he deserves it. No strategic pause no look at the audience or flapping of his arms (he can’t because of injuries) just an honest commitment as to what he thinks and will do. But then, he does not pander and is certainly no Pollyanna.
Posted by: flyover | Apr 7, 2008 2:10:23 PM
Clinton narrates a story without checking facts. Clinton hallucinates on Bosnia because an Aide told her a story about herself which she believed.
The 3am ad was a poor spin.
Some Terrorist will tell her a story and she will believe that, and say, oh it's better to have dictators in the middle east to keep terrorism in check. Go back to 9/11 and shoot a few missiles here and there, until the BOMB perhaps literally. Forget it. Neither Hillary nor Obama can win peace, security and propsperity.
Posted by: easa | Apr 7, 2008 1:55:45 PM
Prevere - Get Real, CBS reporter,why not just read the EnQuirer.
Why not get fact Gen Petreasus responsibility was to operate the surge which he did with honor. Our Victory will continue.
He is a General not a Field commander, but you would know that if you really cared about the US.
The military should be running the war not a politician!
Next the surge was to give the government time to work, it was not to be at the same time, and since it seems they are able to make decisions it seems the surge is working!
Why dont you investigate the facts first, oh thats right for you anti-american Libs the facts get in the way and only Republicans talk facts!!
Posted by: spock | Apr 7, 2008 1:19:27 PM
He is very out of touch on all the issues. People talk about the Clinton's wealth but Cindy Mccain's makes the Clinton's money look like chump change. Mccain has his wife's company jet at his disposal. But he will probably win anyway.
Posted by: Tina D | Apr 7, 2008 12:59:54 PM
Iraq Occupation Commander Petraeus, whose entire Mission "Was to Train Iraqui Troops to Take Over Security (and fighting)" CLEARLY FAILED When 30,000 Iraqui Militery were Defeated in BASRA, and insurrection spread throughout Iraq!
Bush "The Decider" Doesn't want To Decide Anymore Regarding IRAQ? He is Deserting his responsibility, and Taken Off Commander-in-Chief Jacket - Turning Over Iraq War and Occupation FIVE Levels Down.. To Iraq Field Commander Petraeus?
Bush and Cheney are trying to make Military responsible and take blame for Iraq as Civil War Spreads:
"This is really the proxy war that everybody talks about behind closed doors but nobody wants to admit to in public."
Speaking with Bob Schieffer on Face The Nation, CBS Iraq Reporter Logan said that the gains made by agreements with militias (including from Sunni tribes and some Shiite tribes) to work with the Americans have almost disappeared in the face of the recent violence which spreads so quickly from Basra in the south of Iraq.
"It's really about two things," Logan said. "It's a fight amongst the Shiites for power in Iraq - what the future of this country is going to look like, how the Shiites will divide Iraq among themselves - but perhaps even more importantly it's a fight between the U.S. (who backs the Iraqi government and Iraqi security forces) and Iran (who backs those militias).
Posted by: Prevere | Apr 7, 2008 12:52:58 PM
Please Mr. McCain we will not have thw wool pulled over our eye's. Not this time.
Posted by: Stop this sensitive 'Warmonger' now. | Apr 7, 2008 12:16:17 PM
"Obama got it right from day one"
What would that be? Giving a speech and having NIL responsibility in the senate? Apples to oranges.
Posted by: LOM | Apr 7, 2008 11:46:37 AM
Oh so you libs that hate America think McCain (and Bush) Lied about Iraq, but Obama and the elite libs did not, you guys should get your heads out of the sand.
Let me get this straight, you libs want us defeated in Iraq by pulling out too soon, but when the President of Iraq accepts a cease fire because of injury to civilians and to help mend the country, he is wrong and weak. Hypocrites you all are.
As you can see Iran is behind the new violence.
You libs continue to read the anti-American Senator Reid and the Hate America Groupie Obama talking points about Bush lied but give no facts!!
But when given facts of Obama lying you come up with excuses!!
If you do not like this country leave (and leave your citizenship behind)
Posted by: spock | Apr 7, 2008 11:28:38 AM
I actually think McCain would be an even greater disaster then Bush, and not only because he's totally ignorant on economy in general, and on the causes of our current recession in particular.
In foreign policy he'll measure everything along military lines and options, and that's a great danger for everyone involved, for he has no insight whatsoever in foreign cultures and traditions, or an awareness of political and religious tensions in other countries around the world.
Military guys are great for the army, and we all owe them a LOT. For the Presidency however we need a strong and great diplomat, with a superior knowledge of world affairs. And sure, for the great American diplomatic mission in the world, we NEED the military guys and the strength of our army to back our stands on things up.
And our greatest and strongest diplomat in this race no doubt is Obama.
Posted by: hank | Apr 7, 2008 11:24:33 AM
Obama got it right from day one, Hill the Bosnian General is moving slowly to get it right also. But poor McCain is in serious denyal, he does not have a clue about Irak tribal society and how it is functionning. There will be no military victory in Irak, it is a pity that he wants to continue this war in shia-suni-kurd Irak. Irakis have to take care of themselves. Period. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | Apr 7, 2008 10:23:48 AM
Why do the US millitary support the fight with Iraqi millitary. I thought the Iraqis have been trained enough to handle this. Do we have to support them every time the have sectarian fights. The surge just showed that unless there is political reconcilliation there will not be peace. McCain should wake up. Our young men and women have done their part and it is now left to the Iraqis.
Posted by: james | Apr 7, 2008 10:14:09 AM
Why do the US millitary support the fight with Iraqi millitary. I thought the Iraqis have been trained enough to handle this. Do we have to support them every time the have sectarian fights. The surge just showed that unless there is political reconcilliation there will not be peace. McCain should wake up. Our young men and women have done their part and it is now left to the Iraqis.
Posted by: james | Apr 7, 2008 10:12:12 AM
Sadr was the one who declared the cease fire.
Time magazine reported his forces were beated in basra. They were running low on ammo and were retreating. They were taking many casualties. U.S aircraft were taking out their snipers on the rooftops and hitting their rocket teams in sadr city.
Sadr was calling for a ceasefire from the begginning. He was the one who called for it first.
Posted by: Jason | Apr 7, 2008 10:07:54 AM
McCain is really just an extension of Bush when it comes to Iraq. He hasn't been honest with us about it as had Bush.
Posted by: Maritza | Apr 7, 2008 10:06:18 AM
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