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Mea Culpa
April 16, 2008 3:39 PM
Sorry I haven't had time to blog anything today, guys, been running around the Philadelphia area for a piece to air on World News with Charlie Gibson tonight.
What are you looking for out of the candidates tonight? Clinton supporters -- what, if anything, could Obama say tonight that might make you think better of him? Obama supporters -- same question about Clinton.
- jpt
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I like Hillary's fluid and detailed explanations of good Democratic policy we need to take this country back for all of us who are not making out like its the Gilded Age again.
Posted by: Susan K | Apr 20, 2008 5:32:10 PM
Because you work with Charlie Gibson, you will not mind communicating to him the disgust we feel toward a "journalist" who becomes a political operative for his side of the controversy, all the while claiming honorable intentions. The man is not worth the time of his broadcast.
In his defence, the whole profession has moved to a game of gossip for ratings, at the expense of the duty of reporting the truth of each story.
As a nation we are in bad shape, my friend. In no small part due to the news media's derilection of duty. Otherwise, how could we have come to a place where a President can disreguard the separation of powers, conspire to destry the Treasury of the United States and suspend habeas corpus.
If you, in turn disreguard this email by excusing yourself and your network, then you some day will come to face your responsibility. May it not be too late.
Posted by: Wise Old Owl | Apr 20, 2008 5:06:32 PM
If Barack wanted to go after all the dirty hands that the Clintons have touched a two hour debate wouldn't be long enough. Last night was an poor use of our first amendment and a damaging night for the ABC News Team. Having seen as many debates as I have, it was an obvious setup. The pundents want this race to go on for the ratings. The outcome is already set, get used to the idea, it will be Barack Obama as the nominee. He has played by the rules, which a Clinton has no idea of such things.
Posted by: Lou - NH | Apr 17, 2008 10:26:51 PM
My hat is off to Charles Gibson for injecting some reality into these faux debates and demonstrating Obama's blase ignorance of tax policy in the real world.
Most of the political class in the US would line up with Obama in their inability to learn from experience in Eastern Europe and the Bush tax cuts.
They are too wedded to their divisive mantras about the rich and to Marxist dogma. You would think they might have noticed Marxist politics and economics fail every time to deliver what they say. A country with people at the top who are unable to learn new tricks or deliver what they say they will is a country going the wrong way.
Posted by: Harry Schell | Apr 17, 2008 4:12:41 PM
Don’t forget the comments Obama made on April 6th at a private fundraiser in San Francisco. There, the freshman Illinois senator, opining about people in small towns where the jobs have fled, said: “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
“This is elitist behavior by Senator Obama,” says Schmidt (reporter). “The condescension Obama shows toward the values of people who are the backbone of America is very clear.”
Those few words, transcribed from a more than 45-minute recording of Obama, buried in the midst of a very ruminative, rather personally-oriented piece Mayhill Fowler, an activist blogger who supports Obama and contributed the maximum allowable $2,300 to his presidential campaign, kicked off a media firestorm.
“We recognized it was a politically volatile story and thought it would create news,” says Marc Cooper, editorial coordinator of Huffington Post’s “Off The Bus” project for “citizen journalists” such as Fowler. “We had no idea that the controversy would reach this magnitude.”
I GUESS THEY HAD NO IDEA SMALL-TOWN AMERICANS REALLY CARE ABOUT OUR BELIEFS, OUR COUNTRY AND OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICAN CITIZENS!
NO OBAMA --- GO HILLARY!
Posted by: small-town-girl | Apr 17, 2008 2:45:10 PM
aka dad....the Chicago papers have not "investigated and cleared" Obama of any wrongdoing. There is an ongoing trial on Rezco's political corruption. As far as I know they have not charged any major politicians but the whole case could bring down the Governor of IL. And testimony put Obama and his wife at the scene of an Iraqi milliionare's gathering with Rezko where some highly questionable under the table dealings were taking place....Both Obama and his wife are claiming amnesia about the 2004 event....kind of like Obama does not remember his real estate transaction with Rezko in 2005 ...
This is just beginning not over by a long shot. Obama was definitely enriched by his association with Rezko. Even though Obama is claiming all his IL Senate records have disappeared.....no one really believes it and it's not over.
Rezko-Wright-Obama 2008
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 17, 2008 3:41:53 AM
I think Obama would have had to stop spinning and i would have liked him more. I can't stand the hyprocisy of him insisting his campaign is uplifting when I know it is based on a formidible attack and PR machine.
His inability to really express a knowledge of the issues and his obvious resentment and anger and lame attacks against Hillary make him less appealing than ever.
When ever he is "offscript" he continues raise questions about his ability to be "commander and cheif".
The similarities to Bush in personality and arrogance astound me.
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 16, 2008 10:07:19 PM
Obama book “Dreams of my father” …. OMG ……… BARACK OBAMA HID HIS FATHER'S SOCIALIST AND ANTI-WESTERN CONVICTIONS FROM HIS READERS. Google it as read in capital above, and you will find out this fits in with the statement Obama made about people in small town clinging to religion. That was nothing more than a restatement of Karl Marx's view that religion is the "opiate of the masses." The mask is coming off Obama and it's about time!
Posted by: Daa | Apr 16, 2008 7:28:43 PM
Of course Nellie, bring up statements made 13 years ago. If that is the case I am sure we could find some from Obama. Wait, he was a nobody until last year. Why can't you people admit he was wrong?
Posted by: J | Apr 16, 2008 7:23:28 PM
Barack Obama often boasts he is “the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyists,” yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm
Posted by: Daa | Apr 16, 2008 7:23:21 PM
The Chicago newspapers have investigated and exonerated Obama in any wrongdoing with Rezko.
The Canadian Government apologized to Obama for getting the NAFTA story wrong.
You people need to keep up.
Posted by: AkaDad | Apr 16, 2008 7:14:45 PM
Hillary should be asked tonight to explain her "Screw them" 1995 comments. It would fair in light of the latest "bitter" controversy.
Posted by: Nellie | Apr 16, 2008 7:13:12 PM
"It should be about uniting all the various segments in American rather than divide them in Carl Rove fashion. It's about beating John McCain."
You CAN'T "unite" everything out of existence. There are REAL problems to be solved, which can only be done by choosing ONE way over the OTHER.
Obama's "one America" blabla was mostly a put-down to the "two Americas" John Edwards was talking about. There very certainly ARE two Americas, and Barack Obama's never strayed from the one that rules the other.
And it's NOT "about beating John McCain", who may well not BE the final Republican nominee. It's about taking the Democratic Party back from the "post-partisan" error, and out of the hands of the present "leadership", which would rather KEEP losing elections than disturb the plutocrats-only makeup of its platform and practice.
There are, for example, at least a MILLION people living in the streets NOW -- not just the "veterans" the candidates bleat about, but women and CHILDREN. How many will be there when next winter comes? You can't "unite" that, you've got to DO something about it -- or NOT do something about it, and get ready for the full-tilt revolution the U.S. barely avoided in the 1930s.
There's nothing about Obama (OR Clinton, for that matter) that suggests either of them has the stuff to deal with the real conditions outside the upper-middle-class media version of the U.S.
The best thing is to give BOTH these guys the hook, and nominate John Edwards. If he hadn't been outspent 10-to-1, and sabotaged by the (corporate) media, Edwards already would BE the nominee.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 16, 2008 7:03:38 PM
OBAMA AND THE FLAG(s)
Does anyone recall, after all the posts about Obama's lack of patriotism in not wearing a pin and not placing his hand over his heart, when Obama made his speech about how Wright was not Wrong?
He stood on that podium immersed in about eight swirling flags; I thought they were going to swallow him.
I thought too, that that was a cheap 'shot'.
As for his campaigning in Florida when none of the other candidates did, it was was unfair and impolitic. And I was was reminded of the ways Barry had levelled the playing field in his last two elections in Illinois..
You can read about them in back issues of the Chicago Tribune, among other papers.
Posted by: eyes open | Apr 16, 2008 6:51:53 PM
What Hillary doesn't get is this isn't about black, white, elite, redneck etc. It should be about uniting all the various segments in American rather than divide them in Carl Rove fashion. It's about beating John McCain. Yet her latest Rove style strategy has her campaign insinuating that the Montana Yellowstone County Commissioner “picked Clinton only after he heard Barack Obama’s now famous “bitter” comments. But Kennedy told FOX News on Tuesday that he decided on Clinton long before that. “I had been leaning toward Hillary for months,” Kennedy said. “I actually decided to endorse her two weeks ago.”
Think about it. If someone created a website which allowed us to vote on one simple question, 'are we bitter about how things have been going here in the United States', do you think the happy campers would 'win' or do you think the Americans who are fed up, been pushed down, passed over and trickled on would outnumber those who prefer to wear blinders or blindly put a politician above the interests of their party or the interests of our country.
For Hillary to try to twist Obama's words in this regard is beyond her normal campaign games, it's an act of desperation. When more google for information on her pastor and spritual advisor, Doug Coe, they may come to realize it is all a game to her. When they google through all the campaign lies alone, whether it's bullets flying, joining the Marines or simply her stands on issues, they will realize we'll be the losers in these games.
If we want to discuss someone out of touch or elitist, think about the string of unpaid bills Clinton has left in every state she's been in, bills owed to small vendors. Consider why one would fork out $26,000 for an orchestra for a fundraiser yet not pay her workers' health insurance premiums for two months. Is that not elitist?
Bill is now trying to help Hillary again but he needs to clean up his own front porch first. His charities not only support Alibaba, Inc., accused of collaborating with the government in its crackdown on Tibetan activists, his scholarships finance schools in Dubai who won't even accept Israeli students. These stories hit the news about the same time as Bill's Columbian deal. Maybe this bittergate is simply wmd - weapon of mass distraction.
Was Bill's taking advantage of a young girl in his employ not elitist? Was his putting himself above her interests, the interests of his family, the Democratic Party and our country somehow not elitist?
Perhaps Bill needs to do twenty years of community service in the south side of Chicago to get a grip on what constitutes an elitist.
Hillary needs to figure out which political party she works for. I have yet to hear her rally her people to vote Democrat no matter who wins the nomination. Not one word. I thought the whole idea was to beat McCain, not hand him on a silver platter 28% of the Democratic vote.
And btw, we were fooled by a beer drinking party guy trying to act like the common man before, look where it got us. If using that campaign game is not elitist, I'll eat my hat.
Posted by: MsSwin | Apr 16, 2008 6:45:43 PM
my comment must have hit a nerve, I made the comment that the media wanted Obama because he would give them more stories, much like Bush has give them lots to write about.
Posted by: justme the original | Apr 16, 2008 6:39:46 PM
"If he has to win like that, then the Constitution is meaningless, like all the people who gave their lives to protect it."
The Constitution IS meaningless, at the moment.
Especially because Bush has converted the presidency to an imperial office, and because there's a depression growing, committing the Democratic Party to a character with a made-up biography who wants to substitute his own self, and a few borrowed slogans, for the Constitution as an organizing principle would be VERY dangerous: he consorts with mobsters, and has risen to his present office by questionable means. And there are several guys from the same shop -- Deval Patrick, Governor Acevedo -- who've flamed out in office.
We need a leader -- preferably John Edwards. We DON'T need some full-of-himself figurehead who's a puppet for the socially-clueless corporadoes who've constructed the Obama candidacy.
How complicated IS this?
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 16, 2008 6:33:58 PM
Uh . . . Kevin, neiher Hillary, nor the DNC decides whether votes count - you're just making things up now. Those votes have been certified by the secretaries of state of FL and MI and are part of the national popular vote. Obama had opportunities to campaign and do over the elections - he nixed them all - HIS FAULT. The DNC screwed this up in the first place - the DNC's fault. NONE of this is Clinton's fault or the citizens of this country, who are the ones being SCREWED out of a fair election.
Besides, how the heck do you think Obama's going to win if he wins like this? Disregarding the votes of two key states? Do you care if we wins the white house? Or is it just beating Clinton that matters most? THIS IS NOT A GAME!
Jesus, this is some silly nonsense. Every time I hear this "rules is rules" BS I think I'm listening to 3rd graders on a playgroud. If he has to win like that, then the Constitution is meaningless, like all the people who gave their lives to protect it. What's wrong with you people?!? Are you too politically young and naive to even remember the 2000 election?
Posted by: Teri B. | Apr 16, 2008 6:21:55 PM
Harald,
If you believed all the polls Obama would have won New Hampshire. Wright is an issue to Americans, maybe not the media who are in love with Obama.
I have had the hardest time understanding why press and other politicians support him and my husband had an interesting point...that when Clinton is elected she will have a very strong hand in selecting the people around her and the issues she wants to tackle and she won't be easily swayed. With Obama, he is a newbie, with the ability to repay favors and be easily influenced.
Posted by: Andrea | Apr 16, 2008 6:20:59 PM
"True patriots do not need to wear flag pins, because their actions speak for them."
_____________________________
Yeah actions like attending a church for 20 years that GD's America, Amazon Michelle finally being proud of her country...yeah that speaks volumes. At least they other two candidates there is NO question as to them being patriotic an loving this country.
Posted by: J | Apr 16, 2008 6:20:21 PM
I too would like Obama to thoroughly justify his Michigan/Florida stance. If he is the candidate of change, why does he oppose changeing an Iwoa favoring primary system?
Posted by: wnytoby | Apr 16, 2008 6:19:54 PM
WCM "Additionally, there are two better candidates than Obama, should Hillary not receive the nomination. That would be Ralph Nader or John McCain."
Thanks for proving my point. Now don't tell it not the likes of you who are dividing the DEM party in the GE.
It sure is your good right. But why wine about it every day here in this blog?
Vote for Nader or McCain if you want to. No need to say so a 1000 times.
Posted by: harald | Apr 16, 2008 6:19:51 PM
Remeber, how the dot com stocks fooled people and made people addicted?
Obama is such kind of dot com stock.
People said, Warren Buffet is wrong, he dare not to try dot com stock.
MMM? What happened later? dot com stocks crushed. Blue chip stocks are always good, no-lose choice.
Hillary is such a blue chip stock!
Posted by: golfgirlusa | Apr 16, 2008 6:16:19 PM
WebstersPatriot:
I don't know quite how to respond since you went in so many directions.
I was not implying that Obama's not wearing the flag pin is a silent protest -- just noting my own feelings.
Wrapping onesself in the flag does not make one a good American, only a demonstrative one. True patriots do not need to wear flag pins, because their actions speak for them.
I see way too many bumper stickers with flags, saying "I support the troops" next to old "W" bumper stickers, indicating they most certainly DO NOT support the troops as they support a president who put them in harms way for selfish reasons, while letting bin laden get away!
As to Christians and the Crusades, I do consider myself a Christian, though no longer a Catholic. And the corruption of the Catholic Church and the violence of the Crusades certainly factors into why I am no longer Catholic.
Those who try to paint Senator Obama as muslim remind me of those "crusaders."
I could go on and on with this, but there's really no point.
Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | Apr 16, 2008 6:12:21 PM
"We should have a rule, if someone is a beloow average US Senator, while other candidates are, then he should be filterd out at the beginning."
Please explain. If Obama is not a good Senator, how to explain that he got a clear lead in endorsements from fellow Senators over Clinton?
Apparently his colleagues (and they'll know his work as a Senator a LOT better than you do) have a very positive impression of him, and less so of Clinton.
Posted by: josephine | Apr 16, 2008 6:12:04 PM
"lining up behind a clear frontrunner who happens NOT to be Hillary."
Even people who don't CARE for Clinton might think of voting for her in PA and NC: the longer the clock runs, the more Obama shoes are going to drop, and the media-manufactured "charisma" is going to go bye-bye, leaving the stuttering and the creepy hand gestures and the whine.
That the guy can't keep his stories straight through a campaign (Obama's never HAD to go through a campaign before, except when Bobby Rush beat him 2-to-one in Chicago) is NO reason to hand him the nomination. Especially when it's perfectly clear that a whole lot of Democrats are NOT going to go for it, no matter how many of the Democratic "leadership" -- Daschle, Kerry, Pelosi -- pretend he's not a fraud.
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | Apr 16, 2008 6:11:36 PM
HoosierSue,
I agree with you on that but for some reason knowledge has nothing to do with election. It's come down to who is prettier and who can give a speech more eloquently. Have half of us become that stupid?
Posted by: J | Apr 16, 2008 6:10:10 PM
Harald,
What is in that coolaid dude? Hillary voters won't line up with the rest of the Obama zombies because we idolize Hillary. I don't idolize Hillary, she just happens to be the best candidate in my opinion. Additionally, there are two better candidates than Obama, should Hillary not receive the nomination. That would be Ralph Nader or John McCain.
It's called Democracy, maaaaaannnnn!
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Obama, he will say or do anything to make sure the Democrats lose the election!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 16, 2008 6:09:01 PM
Guess us Hillary supporters will just have to vote McCain and keep him out. You know he is the uniter, hope.....change.....hope....change....
Posted by: granny | Apr 16, 2008 6:08:42 PM
Andrea: "For any of your Obamabots who say Wright isn't an issue, you are way off base."
He is an issue, but as the ABC poll shows us Obama actually profited from the issue.
You can't blame him for that. It DOES show however what a strong politician he is, the only one who could stand up to the GOP attack machine. If you attack Obama, he'll be the one who is scoring the points. You gotta admire that. It makes the guy almost untouchable, and that's why Limbaugh and other Republicans are scared to death that he'll be the nominee.
Posted by: harald | Apr 16, 2008 6:07:27 PM
Brian: wrong!!
The one should quit is Obama!
We should have a rule, if someone is a beloow average US Senator, while other candidates are, then he should be filterd out at the beginning.
Just like a job interview, if so many people want a manager's position, we need to set a bar to filter out the unqualified candidate at the beginning.
Remember, US is the strongest country in the world. We don't want just anybody can be president. We need to set the bar high!!
Obama can be rocky star, if he is popular. He can be a great speaker, but he can not be president.
Although he got many votes so far, but that's wrong.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | Apr 16, 2008 6:01:27 PM
"Why can he not unite the party?"
Because of Hillary and her idolatric supporters who favor division over lining up behind a clear frontrunner who happens NOT to be Hillary.
Posted by: harald | Apr 16, 2008 6:00:55 PM
A voice of reason: The only way the democrats will capture the white house is together. I will not vote for Barack because of his thin resume, but if he added eight years as vice president, no one could claim that he was inexperienced and I think this would all but assure the democrats of 16 years in the white house. This is sound reasoning and Barack could end this all now and fill in the gaps of experience and probably make a wonderful president. They are so close on issues, they just need to come together. If democrats came together and made this the sound that both candidates could hear, maybe we could get this done. They could capture the White House together. Let's revist this idea!
Hillary/Barack....Barack/?
Posted by: sugar | Apr 16, 2008 5:57:43 PM
Senator Clinton:
As president would you allow or encourage U.S. prosecution of President Bush and members of his administration and others in goverment and the military for war crimes? And, if asked will you turn them over to an international tribunal, such as in Europe, for trial?
And if not, why not?
Matthew
Posted by: Matthew | Apr 16, 2008 5:56:16 PM
"I would like to know why Obama put Wright in charge of the religious outreach on his campaign when he has said so many offensive things."
Most likely as a means to transfer a whole lot of campaign donations to the church.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 16, 2008 5:55:15 PM
Sen, Hillary was it the first time you got emotional on Dr. King's Death anniversary PUBLICLY, in you 35 years of public life?
If Yes: Don't you think crying once in 35 years just b4 election makes you look not so genuine in you emotion?
If No: Can you name and date those occasions? Do you get generally this emotional in death anniversaries of all the people you consider close, and how many are there? How often do you get such emotional?
I hope you will be more accurate in your recollection.
Posted by: moeen | Apr 16, 2008 5:54:59 PM
Why can he not unite the party?
Posted by: sugar | Apr 16, 2008 5:54:24 PM
I would like to ask him if he really wants to do the best for the american people. A voice of reason: The only way the democrats will capture the white house is together. I will not vote for Barack because of his thin resume, but if he added eight years as vice president, no one could claim that he was inexperienced and I think this would all but assure the democrats of 16 years in the white house. This is sound reasoning and Barack could end this all now and fill in the gaps of experience and probably make a wonderful president. They are so close on issues, they just need to come together. If democrats came together and made this the sound that both candidates could hear, maybe we could get this done. They could capture the White House together. Let's revist this idea!
Hillary/Barack....Barack/?
Posted by: justme | Apr 16, 2008 5:53:29 PM
Jack - thanks for your service to the country. Unwilling as it may have been. With all due respect, you're missing the point of this issue. Rewind 30 years when you returned from war...
In mixed company of other veterans (i.e. WWII), how do you explain your silent protest of the flag vis-a-vis the Vietnam War? In a crowd of hundreds, the statement is difficult to make.
I'm not condoning a suspension of free speech, but grandstanding on a national symbol whose history is as rich with benevolence, freedom, and amnesty as it may have unjustly spilled blood...it confuses matters. Do you get to the point where you say - I'll honor the flag at remembrances of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, WWI, and WWII, maybe for Teddy Roosevelt, for the first term of FDR, for Nixon's trip to China - but not Watergate, etc., etc.? Whatever.
The whole flag thing is the equivalent of taking the cross out of Christian churches because crusadors carried the symbol into racist battles like the crusades (and countless other military actions in the name of religion). I've yet to see a Christian denounce it - including St. Obama. And no, I'm not calling you a Christian or he a Muslim.
Posted by: WebstersPatriot | Apr 16, 2008 5:51:39 PM
I would like to know why Obama put Wright in charge of the religious outreach on his campaign when he has said so many offensive things. When people ask why Obama didn't leave the church it is always the same answer from "He (Wright) was about to retire..." but no one ever pushes him to explain why he then put him on the campaign and did so after knowing about the offensive things he said. Although I really don't buy the fact that he only discovered these remarks after he decided to run for president.
For any of your Obamabots who say Wright isn't an issue, you are way off base. He is an issue now and will be an even bigger issue in the general. When I see the type of people Obama has put around him for the last two decades, it makes me wonder who he will have around him and influencing him if he were in the white house. That is my biggest issue, plus I just don't trust the guy.
Posted by: Andrea | Apr 16, 2008 5:51:04 PM
josephine: are you really Randi Rhodes?? You don't get it, do you? Stop making excuses for this guy.
What excuses do have for the other lies? Rezko, Auchi, nuclear legislation, not running for president in 2008, on and on...
Posted by: cappamore | Apr 16, 2008 5:50:23 PM
"It is the "Clings to the guns..." that insults people."
Yes. The good ole media even dug up a supposedly-similar quote from BILL Clinton. The difference is that Clinton's comment was in PUBLIC, not part of a supposedly-private class-bash.
And John what's-his-name on CNN has taken to repeating that "single mother on food stamps" crappola as if it were fact.
(It would be funny if the equally-clueless, I'm sure, moderator would ask the candidates what CAN and CAN'T be bought with food stamps, what are the colors of $1-$5-$10 food stamps, etc. Betcha neither of the candidates has ever actually laid eyes on a foodstamp. (Remember when Bush I was astonished to find that frocery stores had electronic scanners?)
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 16, 2008 5:47:51 PM
Senator Obama, you have a clear habit of saying something, commenting on it once put on the spot, but usually without apology and instead express blame and deflect onto other topics to avoid accountability for your words and actions. Why have you expressed regret but NOT apologized for your small town America comments? Also, did you apologize for your racist smear about 'typical White people'? Finally, did you apologize to your grandmother for trashing her in public as a racist?
Matthew
Posted by: Matthew | Apr 16, 2008 5:47:17 PM
golfgirlusa, I totally agree. I've followed politics for years and never seen a candidate with the depth of knowledge on the issues that Hillary has.
Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 16, 2008 5:46:13 PM
dl,
The statement by Obama re: small town people and bitterness and clinging to faith and guns etc, was a direct answer to a direct question he was asked about not having support among the working class/small town voters in PA. Note PA is an incredible hunting state. This is not a commment about inner city Chicago and gangbangers. In fact, violence was never mentioned. As for turning to religion, people turn to religion even when not in economically depressed circumstances. It is called FAITH!! WHY IS IT THAT ONLY OBAMA CAN PRACTICE HIS RELIGION OUT OF A DEEP SEATED BELIEF AND SMALL TOWN PEOPLE ARE CLINGING TO THEIRS OUT OF DESPARATION.
Posted by: countallthevotes | Apr 16, 2008 5:43:31 PM
"Obama did run ads in Florida, you are correct. That is well documeted. Obama said they were national ads so he had no control."
And he was right about that! As is well documented! Maybe Hillary was out of cash again!
LOL
Posted by: josephine | Apr 16, 2008 5:40:19 PM
Other questions to Obama:
Why are you afraid of counting votes in Florida and Michigan?
If you don't count votes in those states, then why did say one thing and do another?
Why are you so arrogant to say that if people think you are wrong (your bitter comments) then you declare it's 'political foolishing season'?
Why do you think you are the best candidate to be president? Don't you know you are a below average US Senator?
Don't know you have been given free ride from media for so long? Everytime, when Hillary said something wrong, oh, bad mouth from every where, but when you said somethings wrong, there were not many news from the web. Don't you know that?
Hillary is the one I adore. She has been working hard consistently, persistently for so many years. I feel psychologically balanced to see a person work harder than me to lead me.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | Apr 16, 2008 5:40:12 PM
"Nothing could convince me to vote for Obama. Not now. Not ever."
You don't have to! So stop whining here!
LOL
Posted by: josephine | Apr 16, 2008 5:37:42 PM
cappamore,
Obama did run ads in Florida, you are correct. That is well documeted. Obama said they were national ads so he had no control. Oops! Note Hillary Clinton did not do that.
Posted by: countallthevotes | Apr 16, 2008 5:37:37 PM
When Obama is in troule, the media will come to rescue him, the polls will come out to cover up for him. They focus on the "bitter" to mislead people. It is the "Clings to the guns..." that insults people.
Posted by: peter | Apr 16, 2008 5:37:13 PM
Edgar Cayce,
Thanks for answering my question and you are probably right...lol. I am sure the Obamabots will blame Clinton for it.
Posted by: J | Apr 16, 2008 5:35:44 PM
I would like to hear both candidates solutions for resolving MI and FL, for the record in the same room, for everyone to hear.
Posted by: LOM | Apr 16, 2008 5:34:43 PM
countall the votes
although some of you who like to say it doesn;t count there are numerous studies done that show (and I implore everyone to go look at them...google anything with economic downturn studies and violent crime, ethnocentrism, racism, etc.) you will find many studies that support what he is saying...not to mention it is common sense...
when a community is hit with an economic downturn they turn inward and to what they know...but also violent crime, racism, violent ethnocentrism and anger goes up.
It's been studied and considering where our country is heading over the next couple of years...you better well hope that the other two candidates know that too...because if they don't and by some horrible fluke they won...
This country is not going to be just a hard economic challenge...but the difference in culture, sexism, race and religion may get really nasty when those things go wrong.
Wouldn't you hope that the President of the United States would be smart enough to see those effects and studies.
It's the hard thing to address them...it's the politically safe thing to use those statements as a wedge tool.
Posted by: dl | Apr 16, 2008 5:34:39 PM
Nothing could convince me to vote for Obama. Not now. Not ever.
I really want to see if Mr. phony is ging to be wearing a flag pin tonight. As mIchelle would say "for the first time in his adult life"
Posted by: geevill | Apr 16, 2008 5:34:10 PM
"These issues are holding me back for voting for Obama next Tuesday"
vote for Hillary then! LOL
Posted by: josephine | Apr 16, 2008 5:33:25 PM
Questions to Obama:
Why did you decide to run president?
Why do you think you are similar to JFK?
If you wants to change, what did you change to your pastor, your church?
What's the definition of 'leader'? What's the definition of 'follower'?
If you have been sitting in the church for 20 years, and following the anti-America pastor for 20 years, are you a leader?
If you are not a leader, why do you want to run president?
Why don't you release your Senator record? What did you do as a Senator?
What did you accomplish?
What's your error rate, the things you did wrong devide by the things you did?
Posted by: golfgirlusa | Apr 16, 2008 5:32:57 PM
Becky -- Like you need to be convinced. If she says she didn't say it, you'll call her a liar. If she is honest about it or tries to say what I really meant (like Obama did), you'll say she is two-faced. Does that mean that Obama is two-faced? Or is this where we apply the now commonplace double standard?
Posted by: LOM | Apr 16, 2008 5:32:44 PM
Josephine: how convenient for him....
Posted by: cappamore | Apr 16, 2008 5:30:49 PM
"I'm also reminded of Obama running ads in Florida prior to the primary. But he got away with that because of the adoring media."
Get informed. He got away with it because these were ads running on national television.
Posted by: josephine | Apr 16, 2008 5:29:25 PM
You know you clintonistas would be pounding on Senator Obama if he had dissed that vet by not wearing the flag pin after he was given it. Would have been disrespect, you'd have said!
As a Vietnam Veteran who DOES NOT wear a flag pin, and for a long time did not stand for the National Anthem due to my opposition to the Vietnam War after I returned, I respect Senator Obama's right not be be a "false patriot" who wears a flag pin while sending our sons and daughters off to a war that is both unnecessary and fraudulent. Chickenhawks like Chaney and Bush certainly wear their flag pins all the time, but I don't consider them patriots as I believe they worship Haliburton before any Allegiance to country or God.
Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | Apr 16, 2008 5:29:12 PM
These issues are holding me back for voting for Obama next Tuesday:
1. Relationship with William Ayers?
2. Relationship with Tony Rezko?
3. Relationship with Rev. James Meeks?
4. With Rev. Jeremaih Wright issue, why did he introduce it as a race issue, when it was clearly a anti- American theme for Wright.
5. Why this deception, take money for lobbyist (as he claims with Clinton). Or take money for bundlers as he does, same thing - splitting hairs. Factcheck.org.
If he could answer those questions with clearly and not dance them. I would give him a vote on Tuesday. Otherwise, Clinton is getting it or McCain in the general.
Posted by: Jonathan | Apr 16, 2008 5:28:31 PM
Re: Obama's condo. I've read it as a 1-bedroom and a 3-bedroom. Assuming the 1 is an evolved gross exageration... anyone know for sure?
Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 16, 2008 5:25:16 PM
I would like someone to question Obama on his "real" feelings about small town people and their bitterness causing them to cling to religion and guns and xenophic positions. While he has recently admitted he could have said it better and now dwells on the "bitterness" element, the truth is that he espoused exactly the same objectionable opinion in his Charlie Rose interview way back in 2004.
Paraphrasing from that interview:
People having hard economic times do not vote economic issues. Rather, due to their insecurity, they go out hunting and to church for stability. In the end, they go to the Party that does not look down on them.
Charlie Rose interview of 2004 is online. The above dialogue can be found at about 11-minute footage.
In essence, this was no slip of the tongue by Obama. This is his longstanding belief. He owns it. Further, notable is that he said, "They go to the Party that does not look down on them." That is precisely what he has done.
Posted by: countallthevotes | Apr 16, 2008 5:24:15 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OBAMA'S CONNECTION WITH NADHMI AUCHI, AND ALSO WHY DID OBAMA LIE ABOUT NEVER MEETING HIM.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OBAMA'S CONNECTION WITH THE LOBBYISTS AS MENTIONED IN TODAY'S USA TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY OBAMA VOTED "PRESENT" MORE THAN 130 TIMES.
Posted by: Someone | Apr 16, 2008 5:22:07 PM
"Why would McCain stage a vet giving Obama a flag pin?"
Possibly for the slightly-wicked pleasure of watching him back down on yet another of his "leftist" positions?
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | Apr 16, 2008 5:21:43 PM
countallthevotes:
I'm also reminded of Obama running ads in Florida prior to the primary. But he got away with that because of the adoring media. As I heard Randi Rhodes dismissively say when a caller brought that up: "That was only on cable." Geez...
Posted by: cappamore | Apr 16, 2008 5:20:43 PM
East Coast
How many times can more people say it... when you keep posting that little bitty list compared to the Clintons lists of scandals and lawsuits and investigations and lies and favors and missing files and dying witnesses...and unexpected windfalls...
We don't want to play on that field...and if you are supporting Clinton you should surely not want to.
Posted by: dl | Apr 16, 2008 5:20:42 PM
To Hillary: Under no circumstances concede this race to obama. Please. There will be a lot more coming out regarding obama which will show the world his true nature.
To Obama: Why do you come across as being so arrogant and condescending? You have that G.W. Bush smirk on your face when you are explaining yourself for your misstatements.
To Obama: You have never truly disclaimed the Reverend Wrights G.D. America statement and his obscene hip movements while discussing Bill Clinton and Monica from THE PULPIT OF HIS CHURCH. Talk about this now.
To obama: when you are in a debate such as tonight, do you wear a hidden microphone so that you are fed the "right" answers? It always appears so.
To both: I just wish this whole ugly mess was over. I used to love politics and now I am hating politics.
I just don't want another inexperienced on the job training president to lead this country.
To obama: Please give a detailed account of your experience working with the international leaders. No, not just your visit to Pakistan or Africa, but your actual experience, dates please and subject, of how you handled an international issue.
Posted by: Lou | Apr 16, 2008 5:20:36 PM
Some of you Obamabots are totally losing it. I'm all over the net daily and I see Obama supporters swarming, dominating the blog comments, attempting to intimidate those who disagree with them. In addition, they have a nasty habit of calling for posts to be deleted simply because they disagree with the opinions expressed. I don't put much stock in polls but I do know desperation when I see it. The Obamabots appear to be worried about something.
I've heard there's a big bomb to be dropped on Obama in the next few days... is that the cause of your concern?
Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 16, 2008 5:19:13 PM
"OBAMA SAID HE WILL IMMEDIATELY REVIEW POTENTIAL CRIMES OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION! IS HE NUTS?"
He DIDN'T actually say that -- that was the headline on the HuffingtonPost! If you read what he actually DID say, it's a namby-pamby "if crimes have been committed blablabla" kind of statement.
I wish someone would ask the diversity candidates whether they would immediately end domestic surveillance of ordinary citizens. John Edwards -- who we PRAY will wind up the nominee -- said HE would.l
Posted by: Edgar Cayce | Apr 16, 2008 5:18:51 PM
4mycountry
Hillary lives in a tax bracket where it may behoove her to pay that much in taxes... and she can afford to do that quite comfortably. Obama just finished paying off his loans and for most of his adult life lived in a one bedroom condo... and did it partly with kids. and that was after he spent a few years doing non profit work (this is the guy that was the President of the Harvard Law Review remember...could have done what Hillary did and just gotten a job in Washington looking at her future in politics and then on the board at walMart)
So 1% sounds about right.
and if you are going to bring up lies and scandals... and you are a supporter of Hillary ...I would just advise you ...that is probably not the playing field Hillary is best on.
Posted by: dl | Apr 16, 2008 5:18:19 PM
"I am wondering if that vet giving him that pin was staged."
Probably so ... wonder WHICH campaign staged it? Maybe McCain?
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Why would McCain stage a vet giving Obama a flag pin? I am sure over this recent flap he is just trying to get votes.
Posted by: J | Apr 16, 2008 5:16:37 PM
If Obama would say he would support a re-vote in Florida and Michigan, I could have some respect for him. This will never be a legit nomination without it. Most likely it would never be asked.
Posted by: Tina D | Apr 16, 2008 5:16:07 PM
Kevin,
that simply is not the truth. The pledge taken was to refrain from campaigning. Here is the pledge:
Four State Pledge Letter 2008
Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina
August 31, 2007
WHEREAS, Over a year ago, the Democratic National Committee established a
2008 nominating calendar;
WHEREAS, this calendar honors the racial, ethnic, economic and geographic
diversity of our party and our country;
WHEREAS, the DNC also honored the traditional role of retail politics early in the
nominating process, to insure that money alone will not determine our
presidential nominee;
WHEREAS, it is the desire of Presidential campaigns, the DNC, the states and
the American people to bring finality, predictability and common sense to the
nominating calendar.
THEREFORE, I _______________, Democratic Candidate for President, pledge
I shall not campaign or participate in any state which schedules a presidential
election primary or caucus before Feb. 5, 2008, except for the states of Iowa,
Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina, as “campaigning” is defined by
rules and regulations of the DNC.
___________________________ __________
Posted by: countallthevotes | Apr 16, 2008 5:13:55 PM
"I am wondering if that vet giving him that pin wa