Political Punch

J, I disagree. George W. did not steal the election. It was given to him on a platter because Gore was saddled with the distasteful conduct of Clintons and could never recover. No candidate could have. With a booming economy Democrats should have won in a cakewalk. It was the Clintons that lost that election and will lose again. The Clintons are tiresome and boorish and America needs a change from the stink of GW's presidency and not a return to the stink of the Clinton's.

Robbins Mitchell: that's an immortal, if probably politically incorrect, political assessment: no one who sees it will EVER -- yea, even should one be forever banned for saying so! -- forget it.

Maybe NOW he and Clinton -- who's "likeable enough", as the ninny memorably remarked, disdainfully, in what passes for debate on teevee, but saddled with BILL Clinton -- will retire from the field for the good of the Republic, and leave the nomination to John Edwards, the hem of whose bootstrap neither of them is really fit, politically or in life experience, regardless of birthday suits and the "diversity" concerns of the Democratic Party's so-caloled "leadership", to touch.

I know where Hillary knows about
the average American. We all know her
parents sacraficed to give her two bothers and her
good education, like so many average Americans

I often wonder??? Who paid for Obama's
education? Seems like he got the best.
Where did the money come from? What
about his white family? Did they help him?
Funny, I think the Obama's are very secretive.
I want to know more about his family background. I know it costs a hellovalot of money to educate your kids. I did just that with
my two. It was a struggle. Did Obama ever struggle for anything. Maybe that's why he gave
the "elitist" speech in Pa. I would like to
know the truth about him. Sometimes, I thing hbelieve he should just start another church and go preach, like his friend.

"The second amenement is about more than "hunting"... something that seems to be lost on Obama."

Yepper. Those are all INDIVIDUAL rights. I love to see these D's spinning out. They got two socialists against an actual war hero. I'll hold my nose and vote for McCain.

Why should working class whites vote for a guy who clearly holds them in contempt and who of sound mind chose as his pastor, spiritual mentor and close friend of 20+ years a christiant Louis Farrakhan. I pity his sad, ailing white granny. Obama's going to lose big time!

Brad writes:
"If he wins, I'm buying lots of guns, ammo, and a shovel..."

The shovel's for the victory garden?
Better stock up on guns now, just in case.
Obama's courting rednecks, presumably, about "hunting". What's his pitch to armed "urban" types?

The second amenement is about more than "hunting"... something that seems to be lost on Obama. If he wins, I'm buying lots of guns, ammo, and a shovel...

"Only Edwards -- who can speak plainly without having the words put into his mouth by others..."

Puh-leeze. This socialist ambulance chaser's washed up.

Gas = 3.29 a gallon

Milk = 3.89 a gallon

We owe China billions of dollars to fund a war,I say again China a communist country owns us economically, You are dam right I am bitter. I don't think he is saying rual america is only about there guns and religion, I think he was trying to say when it comes to politics most of the time you will vote based on if this is the type of guy that wants to enforce stricter gun regs, etc... Obama actually has a good plan for hunters if anyone would bother to actually read, I don't see Hillary site with anything about hunting, he actually wants to open up more areas for people to hunt. So actaully do some research on the candidate before you open your mouth.

NC R's are registering as D's to vote for Hillary, not Obama. We want to keep this going as long as possible. Watch Denver explode...

BubbaJ writes:
"The ignorant masses can't be bothered to really listen and pay attention to the world around them. All they hear is politicians making promises they can't keep to make their lives better."

This Ayn Rand rap is a little out of date.

The "ignorant masses" might be a teeny bit inattentive because of the ten hours a day in a chicken processing plant, or whatever. Not enough time spent listening to Jonathan Alter.

Nice try, Edgar, shifting the blame again.

The ignorant masses can't be bothered to really listen and pay attention to the world around them. All they hear is politicians making promises they can't keep to make their lives better. And they believe every word of it, as if it hasn't all been said before. It's all fresh and clean and new to them. They want someone to make their lives better, when in most cases the only person who can do that is themselves. Why do you think politicians never talk about taking things away from people like social security or welfare. No, they talk about giving you more and more and more. They buy votes with other people's money (taxes) by promising the moon. Doesn't that bother you?

It's got nothing to do with politicians being in the pockets of the rich or corporations. All of that would mean nothing if people stopped voting for them because they expect fringe benefits. STOP giving the government so much power over your lives people!

The government that has the power to give you everything you want has the power to take it all away.

BubbaJ writes:
"When will the ignorant masses learn to stop looking to politicians to make them happy and fulfilled?"

If the masses are "ignorant", it is MOSTLY the fault of politicians, of the truly rich who run them, and of the captive mouthpieces in the corporate press.

You think peope are bitter now, Senator Obama? Just wait until you are elected and they find out that you can't fix all their problems.

When will the ignorant masses learn to stop looking to politicians to make them happy and fulfilled? The economy goes up, the economy goes down. The stock market goes up, the stock market goes down. There will always be good times and bad times. During my lifetime, I have noticed that, for the most part, the government usually makes things worse, not better. STOP looking for the government to fix all your problems for you. Take a hard look at your life and realize that you are probably in the situation you are in because you made some bad choices. STOP expecting other people and especially politicians to fix it for you. Take responsibility for your own actions.

Now everybody, Democrat, Republican or Independent repeat after me:

"My will shall shape the future. Whether I fail or succeed shall be no man's doing but my own. I am the force; I can clear any obstacle before me or I can be lost in the maze. My choice; my responsibility; win or lose, only I hold the key to my destiny." AMEN, AMEN and AMEN!!!!!

And one more thing: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or John McCain is NOT your savior.

cc writes:
"This is not a black or white issue its a economic issue."

Of COURSE it's an economic issue. There AREN'T really any "black or white" issues -- and a half-"black" birthday suit really doesn't constitute POLITICAL "change".

Maybe Mike Gravel, who's still on the North Carolina ballot as a Democrat, will get a lot of protest votes . . .

I want to know where Obama specifically said that "white" people cling to guns & religion. I thought he said "they", so there are no black people in PA or any other small towns? & from my perspective when things are tough people do go to church more & they pray more. They do cling to religion because if you believe in God, you believe he can change your situation. & a lot of people who can't feed there children would rather do a crime than to have their children starve. So yes people do cling to guns. This is not a black or white issue its a economic issue.

If you are not in an area where families have changed because of outsourcing you have no clue how bitter people really are.

Obama 08 YES, WE CAN!!!

SAM writes:
"I hope he gets buried in the next several primaries."

If NON-"white" and unrich voters in small towns in the remaining primary states figure out that he has the same contempt for THEM . . .

Edgar Cayce | Apr 12, 2008 1:52:58 PM

I have a feeling that she's on a very short leash these days. The problem is that now Obama's supporters have to put him in a short leash too! Imagine, a candidate who can't be allowed to speak in public.

For Obama supporters so enamored of him for reasons of change, please explain to me how a smart, well-educated, and prominent guy like Obama sat in his church's pews while his pastor told lies about HIV, crack, and the use of atomic weapons. I'll leave the anti-Semitism and anti-American diatribes to someone else. Again, how to you explain those away as "controversial" or mere matters of disagreement?

Obama selfishly and cowardly sat in the pews of his church because he desperately needed Wright and his congregants for political support. In other words, he's just another unprincipled politician--he just happens to be running for president before he's compiled an even more objectionable list of associations.

To be clear, I couldn't care less about the source of Wright's anger. It's irrelevant to the point of Obama's cowardice in the face of intellectually indefensible lies. He sat there, knowing better, and allowed a foul-mouthed demagogue infect the hearts and minds of many congregants SOLELY for political gain. It's the height of cowardice and the height of political calculation.

I hope he gets buried in the next several primaries. I really thought he was going to pull this off, but he can't help shooting himself in the foot.

He's the dumbest smart person we've come across in some time.

Where has Michelle Obama gotten to?? Why hasn't SHE -- the only formerly-unrich individual in the Obama machine -- emerged, to try to explain it all away?

Is Obama expecting?

What is the opinionated commented at the end of this story even doing on an ABC News story? I'm sure ABC News has journalistic standards that don't allow this. If the crowd indeed seemed bored, I'm sure Obama's comments were new to them and hard to follow. This story takes a shocking comment, too, and makes it boring and hard to follow.
The public reaction is outrage and many think this divisive, judgmental, stereotypical comment by Obama about small town America will end is campaign. It's that big. If you hear and see the video of what Obama said, it's like hearing his beloved "uncle" Rev. Wright all over again. They hate most Americans.

Truth is Americans don't like to hear the truth. Fact is very many of us are bitter and struggling.

I'm struggling big time and I can connect to what Obama is saying. I'm tired of politicians trying to sell us false hopes.

The Clintons are such LIARS looking at the blue collars workers in the eye and lying to them.

As a european i have a strong feeling that there is something wrong in the collective mindset of Americans:
1. You are getting poorer in absolute terms and very poor in relative terms comapred to europeans, japanese & fast growing economies like china, Korea,...
The leading economy at a great distance is just about to be overtaken by china or many others in just a decade or less time

2. You are getting less powerful everyday because you commited yourself to a wrong war: your armed forces are overstretched, you are sustaining the wrong war with chinese money you have to pay dearly for many years to come. Beside that the rest of the world like the russians and chinese are quietly working to overtake your influence.

3. You are viewed less favourably everywhere in the world even in Israel.

4. The so-called union is cracking because your original declarations like rights for Guns are obsolete & need an extensive overhaul. Guns never did any good.

With these and other alarming factors at hand, fighting for a comment that is in my view very precise is indicative of a downfall.

Wake up & see things globally and try to think rational.

See how a president answers a question.. he says yes I said it, this is what I am hearing, people are bitter, frustrated, and don't trust the govt'.

Unlike Clinton, he did not whine, point the blame at someone else, say he's human and misquoted. Unlike McCain he did not change his statement. Finally, someone is listening!!

I am bitter, he's right! I don't want or need to be talked to like a child by candidates trying to act as if they have my best insterest at heart, when they don't even know what I am saying.

How can Hillary fight for me, when she cannot even hear that I am bitter, frustrated, and getting tired of empty promises from the government. Say what you wil, but 24 years of Bush & Clinton is enough! We need change!

Obama does nothing but stereotype people. He keeps putting other races down, in hopes that he looks better.

Neither McCain nor Clinton would have gotten away with saying: “the black community” clings to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

As opposed to Medicaid, Food Stamps and Section 8, I'd prefer working, God, guns, trucks and church.

NO Barack Hussein Obama!

Wonder why Billy is not surprosed guess who realesed this statement????YUP<<<< What goes around Billy comes around and I am a firm beliver in that statement Just hope I am here to see you and your wife fall flat on your faces ,People will smarten up when they see the monies from her BLIND TRUST and where it came from...LIARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Andrew Austin writes:
"It will be interesting to watch the corporate media - one part of which wants to purge its white guilt and the other part of which wants to hobble the Democrats in November - bail Obama out of this one."

Don't worry: Jonathan Alter and Chris Matthews will pout, and try to talk it to death on teevee.

Where's Obama's summer house, anyway? If he doesn't HAVE one, whose does he use?

MUST READ: HILLARY SUPPORTS OUTSOURCING!

Los Angles, July 30, 2007
Gary Singh

In 2003, Tata Consultancy Services of India (TCS) opened a office in Buffalo with the help of Hillary Rodham Clinton and told a newspaper that it might hire as many as 200 people.
Tata has done more to undercut workers in upstate New York than it has helped
In 2003, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the high-tech firm Tata Consultancy Services of India (TCS) to open a office in Buffalo, N.Y. by hoping that it would bring jobs to the area. Clinton later said the deal showed that outsourcing firms could create jobs both in their home countries and in the United States.

As a part of its program to expand its US presence, TCS will provide advanced IT training to new recruits. The training center is aptly named "Chrysalis", a word signifying the evolution of a larva into a butterfly. Company executives explained that the name alludes to the transformation of bright new talent into advanced IT professionals who would lead the technology industry in the future. The firm said it had already hired 20 new recruits, primarily from western New York, and had plans to triple that number by the middle of next year. But over that same period, Tata sought H-1B visa certifications to import nearly 500 foreign computer programmers and other specialists to upstate New York.

Since 2003,"the reality is that it probably created many more jobs for workers overseas and displaced lots of American workers according to leading news papers.

NRI Sudesh Agnihotra from New York told our representative that NYC residence are very up-set that about 500 foreign computer programmers and other specialists were dumped in their State and they had no gain.

Clinton always said, the United States benefits by admitting high-tech workers from abroad. She backs proposals to increase the number of temporary visas for skilled foreigners.

This is also surprise to learn that when she addresses the union audiences and Democratic crowds, she does not mention her support for expanding foreign-worker visas

Most of the NRI supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton are confused and up set of the out-come of Tata (TCS) deal.

How Hillary can claim to support American workers if she is also helping Indian outsourcing companies and proposing more worker visas.

That screeching sound is Obama's campaign veering off the tracks.

It's kind of like watching the bridge-blow-up scene at the end of "Bridge over the River Kwai." Can Democrats jump off in time to save themselves?

Lauren writes:
"WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO WILL NOT SELL US OUT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER"

That'd be John Edwards. The "diversity" twins are all ambition -- and instead of mobsters and black separatists, Clinton's saddled with Bill Clinton, whose post-presidential activities have been about raking in millions and running around in a top hat with George Bush I, who started Part I of the Iraq war.

If the Democrats don't nominate Edwards, they're going to lose the election to whoever's place barmy Senator McCain's holding.

So is there a reason why you Clintonites are making the same post twice? Your candidate comes from the family of lies, racism, and the most crap that can come out of anyone's mouth. Sen. Obama spoke the truth and those who can't handle it, are Clinton supporters who live in a rose colored world. You guys make me sick. The good news is that Obama will be president even without your votes. Thank God for miracles!

It will be interesting to watch the corporate media - one part of which wants to purge its white guilt and the other part of which wants to hobble the Democrats in November - bail Obama out of this one.

At least he's consistent. He can acknowledge white discontent with affirmative action (i.e., govt-sanctioned racial penalties for being whites) and illegal immigration, but he refuses to allow that there can be sound, principled reasons for being opposed to them.

Ron writes:
"obama seems to have forgotten his roots; acts more like a rich white man than a black man who knows the misery of poverty."

Obama's "roots" were rich white people and elite schools. He's never been poor: when he lacked any accoutrement of upper-class life -- a mansion, a couple of corporate salaries or best-sellers -- some mobster or corporation or university has stepped in to supply it.

It is sad when truth becomes a dirty word.

Senator Obama is right on the money and he had my vote.

Just call me angry, bitter and frustrated in Houston, Texas.

Obama is a loser and obviously can't speak off the cuff. He's a disaster and the Dims leadership now know it. They have given another gift to the republicans. Thank you for that..

the clintons had nothing before exiting the presidency. i for one am happy that they are finally making money after all the bull they put up with from republicans.

they know what it is like to be down.

obama seems to have forgotten his roots; acts more like a rich white man than a black man who knows the misery of poverty.

"a brie and chardonnay crowd in San Francisco"

At more than $2000 a head for a Pelosi kind of crowd to hear the magic mulatto diss the lumps, the most amazing thing is that these remarks even made it OUT of the gathering.

gore lost because his campaign leg by donna brazille sucked and because the republicans in florida and on the us supreme court stole the election: bush was selected, not elected.

and times were good during the clinton years. good jobs with good pay.

bush is probusiness and let them run nafta into the ground.

obama is not going to win the general: he cannot carry one southern state; he will not carry ohio, florida or pennsylvania. he loses. then what? 4 more years of bush.

the democrat's only hope is hillary: she is tough. she is vetted. her hide is thick and she works for the middle class.

Senator Obama told one of those truths that people don't like to admit or hear especially the same ol politocos and pundits. The system is broken people and it desperatly needs someone with a fresh vision for the future. The way things have been working have caused this chasm that exists and some people just can't be heard any longer when they are down that far. The elite are the folks presently in control, Mr. Obama is as close as you're going to ever see that can relate to every day Americans. How can you believe Mrs. Clinton with her 109 million in the bank could ever relate to the average person or Mr. McCain with his wifes beer fortune? Let's get real people - Mr. Obama could have worded that sentence better but the message rings 100% true.

MUNCIE, Ind. - Democrat Barack Obama on Saturday conceded that comments he made about bitter working class voters who "cling to guns or religion" were ill chosen, as he tried to stem a burst of complaints that he is condescending.

Hmmm...backtracking again I see.

re: Carolina

You are so right about Obama's disposition. I said noticed the same thing last evening. His nose high up in the air with an attitude "I am king".
The more I listen to McCain the more I like him. If Hillary does not win, it's republican. I do not vote for empty suits either.
stay the course for christ. he is knows what is going on. he is at work and we don't know the detail. but we are on the winning side.

By and large, the public is dumb about obama and those dumb ones vote, so the mania continues. But the Lord has a way of getting in his omega's last word. of course.

blessings,

Obama's comments were proceeded by a direct question from one of the billionaries as to why he was having difficulty rallying the working class vote in PA.

Instead of amswering that he has been ineffective in convincing working class people of his program for change, he, in essence, blamed them and mischaracterized them as gun-toting, xenophobic, bitter and ignorant.

This was his audience and he was rewarded handsomely for one day's work:

"If you do the math, on just this one day in the Bay Area, Obama went to four events, three of which had $2,300 minimum donations per ticket, and the other $1,000 minimum per ticket. Each of the events, from the various descriptions, held as many as 400 people (the Getty mansion has a ballroom that reportedly seats at least 300). 400 x $2,300 = $920,000 per event, times three events = $2.76 million, plus the other event, which undoubtedly puts him over $3 million in contributions for this one day alone. And who knows how many other similar days he schedules in other parts of the country."

The truth is that working class people are less apt to be swayed by "Words, Just Words."

indy voter,
BECAUSE GEORGE BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION!

ron, just curious...If everybody was doing so great during the Clinton years than why wasn't his vice president elected? The Clintons are part of the problem not the solution. Democrats should wake up to that. The Clintons were the reason George W. was elected in the first place. America deserves better than Clinton Act II.

politicians just don't get it, we are bitter and disgusted with government and businesses shipping jobs out of the country for money. Government needs to change

I guess all of you people forget how much the Clintons have donated to charity and the time they put in on different things over the years. She didn't come from a priveleged background and she worked hard to get what she has and where she is. Quit being jealous.

"and it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations . . ."

Strange . . . "cling to guns or religion" . . . You might even think that that the people living in small towns in Pennsylvania, or Ohio, or Michigan, or North Carolina, or New Jersey, or any other state, for that matter, have only been religious since NAFTA. Or, that they have only been hunting for these past few decades now . . . only out of frustration, of course.

Yet, Barack Obama spent twenty years, and even brought and chose to raise his impressionable young girls, right in the midst of a "house of worship" presided over by a raging, hate-filled man who damns this nation from his pulpit, and who, in the context of his "ministry" has even openly embraced a man, Louis Farrakhan, whose racial and religious bigotry has been burning bridges of commonality and sowing his ugly brand of bitterness and hatred, pitting American against American for decades.

Were not Wright and Farrakhan, all this time, vehemently expressing "antipathy toward people who aren't like them?"

Well then, what was Barack Obama doing, leading his young family down that path?

Where did he suddenly become so knowledgable about what is in the hearts of small town folks? At the knee of Reverend Wright . . . the man who he says brought him to his faith?

Or did it begin with his own grandmother, who he has told us is a "typical white person?" He says she made him cringe with things she said.

Well, he just made a whole lot of people in this country cringe with what he said.

It was the verbal equivalent of a gutter ball.

This just silly. We have wars going on, economy is in shambles, and we talk about a Gaffe that wasn't even a Gaffe. Come on News people, come on bloggers. This is simply a distraction to john and Hillary's failing campaigns. Obama told the truth. If they are the candidates that care with all of the experience, ask yourself why the country is in the way it's in now. You can't blame Obama he just got there.

CAROLINA, And Hillary has not lived a privleged life? I don't know of anyone who is more condescending in public life than Hillary. That is why so many people dislike her.

AkaDad

Been there, done that. It's all fluff!

As someone who grew in a small town and still has ties to my small town I believe Obama is right that folks are bitter and disgusted. They are bitter and disgusted with their federal government's elected officials. In particuar they are bitter and disgusted with the past two presidents. First we had a president (Clinton) who treated the White House as his personal playground and continuously evaded the truth until caught. Next we had a president (Bush) who is so dumb as to be dangerous and whose dumb mistakes will take decades to fix. I believe small town folks are the pulse of the country and I do believe there is bitterness. They do not wear their bitterness on their sleeve and continue doing what is important in life (god, family, freinds) But make no mistake there is bitterness over the way this country has been run for the last 16 years. It is time for a change. I personally do not care if it is Obama or McCain as long as it is not Hillary and the same old crap. By the way, I am a "typical white person".

S

Go to Obama's website and click the issues link. There you can find the substance.

AkaDad

It's all talk.

No meat in the bun.

No answers to anything -- just assertive accusations.

Just wedges to divide

Just appealing to lemmings who choose to believe rather than to know.

An empty suit full of sound and fury -- signifying nothing.

CAROLINA

Ever noticed how Obama holds his nose so high when he speaks -- a sure sign he has contempt for his audience. Internally, he represents nobody except himself

I am voting on the economy which is why my vote will go for Senator Clinton.

The birthday-suit "diversity" candidates aren't working out for anybody except the Republican-lite "leadership" of the Democratic Party.

Clinton and Obama should return to the Senate, and the Democrats nominate John Edwards, the guy with the brains and the politics, and the spouse who isn't an utter embarrassment.

Otherwise, Gravel/Nader/McKinney are going to wind up with a lot of votes the Democrats think are theirs -- Obama's psychological take on the masses, that they are "bitter" and "frustrated", isn't much of a political pose, is it??

Nobody doubts, I think, that other Obama shoes will drop at any moment.

Ron, its hard to be self reliant and not worry too much about polititans when they take so much of our money and pass so many laws curtailing our freedom.

Government has gotten out of hand - they have too much of our power and money. We need to downsize goverment!

S

Yup, all that talk about bringing everyone together to solve problems is clearly divisive.

Lol

AkaDad

Actually Obama's rhetoric is inflaming the 'regular people'. He truly is divisive!

Frankly, none of the candidates are fit to be President.

It's so refreshing to finally have a candidate like Obama who's so in touch with average folks. He understands the anger and bitterness that regular people are feeling.

Hillary supporters:

Your candidate will loose to the liberal left. Here are your GE choices:

*Vote for McCain
*Vote for Nader
*Write in Hillary's name
*Dont' vote

You have been betrayed!!!!

Obama is right. People are bitter. I'm glad he recognizes that people are bitter in certain areas due to economic problems. This is the first step in trying to change the economic situation in those places. I come from such a place and we have little faith in the government being of any help to people willing and eager to work hard for decent wages to allow us to live a nice middle-class life. The government does not need to give welfare to the people in these areas, but, if they want to help those people, they can help us make it more attractive for businesses to operate there (and in the US in general) and more attractive to buy American. At least Obama realizes there is a problem and a huge wealth divide in the U.S. Too bad the other politicians don't focus on this very very important issue, but I guess that's politics.

Obama is a fraud. he is a slick corrupt politician from Chicago. he is an elistist, a racist and a socialist.

His followers cling to 'hope' and 'change' as actual reasons to vote for him while continuing to convince themselves that the fantasy of who they want Obama to be still exisits.

The Clintons are as disgusting, no doubt. The problem is, Obama is the uber-dream of the politically correct crowd and they will just ignore anything that gets in the way of the fairy tale.

...hope all have a great weekend. don't get too crazy about politics and remember they are ALL of them just politicians. don't put too much stock in any of them. be self-reliant.

If small town folk are bitter, are the slum dwellers in Rezkos apartments not bitter?

Obama really needs to win Pennsylvania to demonstrate to super delegates that he can secure the Democratic base in November. This elitist "gaffe" doesn't help.

ron

so you are saying that the towns in Pennsylvania that which Obama was referring to, have "social and economic mobility" more than the towns in the other studies?

so in essence you are saying that studies that correlate economic downturns and the rise in violent crime and ethnocentristic anger ... are not important in this discussion or are inaccurate in comparing these towns?
really? because of their vast differences in their ability to switch their economic and social standing...

I think you need to go into a town in central or western Pennsylvania and tell them they have such a greater ability to change that their situation is different than all of these other places because they can change their economic and social status so their government and political shouldn't be held to the same expectations.

I tell everyone don't rely on my statements...go google studies of economic downturns and social statistics... see the correlations for yourself. There are many...dealing with everything from crime to religion to the reverse and cyclical effects of crime and racism back on a community.

I have yet to see any that were the opposite of what Obama has said...

and if you don't think that Bill Clinton was elected partly because of "personality" you aren't being genuine.

Angel,

I immigrated to the USA 36 years ago. I and my spouse had college degrees back home but could not find jobs in our fields, so we both worked in sweat shops to support our family. I decided getting another degree at the local university would help us, so we made sacrifices so I can go back to school. And it paid off.

The point is: anyone (whether you are black. white, yellow or green) who is willing to sacrifice to better himself/herself can do it here in America.

This country was built solely by immigrants, some just came later that others.

This is a free country and everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, but I still think Hillary would be a better president than either of the two. Although I would vote for McCain if Hillary does not get the nomination.

Oh my Osamaobama, just a great job of pulling this country together with a comment like that. Now, I'm not too bright, I didn't go to an Ivory League School and some Middle Easterner didn't give me no money to buy a 700K home...so tell me, are you critizizing biter, white gun tot'n, unemployed,church going conservatives or gun tot'n, white unemployed chuch go'n, union member, biter liberals...or are all us typical white folks just lumped together. I just wants to know so I won't stand nexta that group of losers.

having been born in the segregated south, i have come to understand racism. sometimes it is overt; more often nowadays it is nuanced. it is my belief that obama is a racist: he contines to resent his mother's race (his words from his book). such a man or woman is not fit to be presidet, period.

having been born in the segregated south, i have come to understand racism. sometimes it is overt; more often nowadays it is nuanced. it is my belief that obama is a racist: he contines to resent his mother's race (his words from his book). such a man or woman is not fit to be presidet, period.

Hendrickson had to comment on this, and try to distance his candidate from Obama's remarks. This quote from Obama will be used by Republicans to paint the entire Democratic party as anti-gun, anti-religion, and pro-illegal immigrant. Obama gave Republicans this on a platter -- a silver plated, gold plated, platinum plated platter. Republicans will say that Democrats think people are pro-gun because they are bitter and frustrated, not because hunting is part of their culture; they are going to say Democrats believe that people cling to religion because they are bitter and frustrated, not because of belief in God; and they are going to say that Democrats believe people are against illegal immigrants because they are bitter and frustrated, not because illegal immigration is destroying the fabric of America. Democrats have to do everything they can to say Obama is wrong and does not share their beliefs.

DL,

you cite an english study based on a population that is class stratified. america is known for its social and economic mobility. the literature clearly indicates that different people respond to economic adversity in different ways (be they urban or rural).

if you are so confident of your views -- all of you-- cite your names; don't hide behind your words.

other studies indicate that cults of personality develop around charismatic figures--Hilllary is anything but charismatic.

so stop blindly following an empty suit; instead, study his words and deeds then do what you must. for my part i support hillary; if she is not the nominee, i will support mccain.

ron bodin
erath, la.
-instructor on hs,cc and university levels
-clinical professor, u of La.
-past editor, USL attakapas historical gazette
-past asst admin, USL center for LA. Studies
-author of numerous articles on Louisiana and author or Voodoo:past and present

Ron part of the reason bill was so successful was because of the balance of a republican congress that is fact.

and what i read in your statement is that you are voting for Hillary because she was married to Bill ...yet she is over and over trying to distance herself from him now...so which is it?

this goes back to the issue at hand factories leaving small towns and going overseas because of NAFTA. Bill Clinton's big economic/foreign policy issue. That is a direct result of Bill's administration.

I agree times were good then but remember where we got to with Bush getting elected and where we are now has a lot to do also with that administration.

This is what I mean by 15 years of arguments with the republicans making us blind to the faults of the Clintons.

see the tactics of those defending Obama - get this - "Ana you just have a problem with racism."...yup, we time we say any