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New Quinnipiac PA Poll Numbers

April 15, 2008 7:48 AM

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., maintains a 50 - 44 percent lead over Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., among likely primary voters, reports a Quinnipiac University poll released just now.

Those numbers are unchanged from April 8 numbers, though the poll was taken over the weekend -- after news broke of Obama's controversial remarks on "bitter" small-town Pennsylvanians clinging to guns, God, and xenophobia.

Twenty-six percent of Clinton supporters say that would vote for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., should Obama win the nomination, while 19% of Obama supporters say they would go GOP should Clinton win.

Other numbers:

White voters for Clinton 57 - 37 percent;

Women voters for Clinton 54 -40;

Voter over 45 for Clinton 55 - 40;

Black voters for Obama 86 - 8 percent;

Men voters for Obama 51 - 43 percent;

Voters under 45 for Obama 55 - 39.

Says Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute: "Sen. Hillary Clinton is fighting off Sen. Barack Obama's drive to make it a close race in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary, holding the six-point edge she had a week ago.  She seems to have halted the erosion of whites and white women in particular from her campaign. She even gained back some ground in the Philadelphia suburbs - the area where elections are won and lost in the Keystone State.  She now trails Obama by just two points in this critical area, while she was 11 points behind a week ago."

- jpt

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That tells me he will win Philadelphia and not much more.

Posted by: Tina D | Apr 15, 2008 1:13:11 PM

And another PA endorsement for Obama:

"The last statewide elected Democratic official to endorse in the presidential race, Auditor General Jack Wagner, will throw his lot in with Sen. Barack Obama this afternoon in Washington, Pa. Wagner, a former state senator, is a popular "Casey Democrat" pol from western Pennsylvania, which demographically is regarded as hospitable terrain for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Posted by: watson | Apr 15, 2008 1:11:39 PM

Haven't we learned we can not trust poll numbers. Especially when it involves a biracial and woman candidate, people lie. Bring on PA.

Posted by: Ken | Apr 15, 2008 1:08:59 PM

morningside -- How can the DNC play fair when Donna "I'm Neutral But In the Tank for Obama" Brazile in the #2 spot?

Posted by: LOM | Apr 15, 2008 1:08:19 PM

John -- I think dragging this primary on also brings out the worst traits in Obama as well, which for the American people, is an equally good thing.

Who cares if they don't like her? You can't please everyone. However, what specifically has she done to them? Is she guilty by association for her husband?

Posted by: LOM | Apr 15, 2008 1:06:24 PM

Obama will be limping into Denver. The question is will the DNC try some sleazy maneuver to reverse his slide - like throw some more 3rd tier Democrats in front of the bus - and have them endorse Obama before next Tuesday.

I hope not. The DNC better play fair. Large numbers of reliably democratic voters are just standing by waiting to see how they handle this final week. The voters of Pennsylvania deserve to decide for themselves who is the better candidate.

If the left wing of the DNC tries anything designed to alter our perception that Obama's condescending comments are not a huge problem that goes directly to his electability, we are ready to bolt the democratic party and support McCain.

Since Obama can't pick up republicans or independents, the DNC can't afford to lose any democrats by overtly pushing one candidate over the other.

Posted by: morningside | Apr 15, 2008 12:59:53 PM

LOM: Why don’t the big shots wade in and stop this donnybrook – Maybe it is because the Kennedy’s, Pelosi, Kerry, the Carters and Gores really don’t like Hillary Clinton. Over the years, she has done the dirty to most of them and she seems to inspire a deep contempt from those that she has worked with. While letting the primary drag on is serving to introduce new guy Obama to the electorate, it is also bringing out all the worst traits from Hillary. After this she will be so damaged she will never return.

Posted by: John | Apr 15, 2008 12:56:35 PM

crisis08,

He can't manage to win the GE, that is why he hasn't been able to close the deal on the nomination.

Posted by: LOM | Apr 15, 2008 12:47:59 PM

Geevil,

Yes, I wonder how he will manage to win in the GE .
The GE only count Primary in order to win, so far he won most of Caucuses.

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 15, 2008 12:44:42 PM

Dann: Hillary overplayed her hand - Yea, and it was only a pair of deuces.

Posted by: John | Apr 15, 2008 12:38:59 PM

Despite Obama's lead in states won, pledged delegates and popular vote, the flood gates haven't opened for him when it comes to superdelegates. If this is such a sure thing, why don't they throw their support to him and end it once and for all?

They have a responsibility to put their best chance of winning the White House on the ticket. Simply put: Obama is unelectable against McCain.

Posted by: LOM | Apr 15, 2008 12:38:11 PM

Sorry,

I meant..
from this race

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 15, 2008 12:37:31 PM

@Bill,

....if Obama this bad why he is leading,,,

He is new, that's why people don't know about him very much .
The longer he stays in this campaign the more people will know about him.
That's why his backers want Hillary to drop out from this rare so he will get a free ride to the GE.
But that doesn't mean he will be smooth in the GE, McCain will dig up everything about him.

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 15, 2008 12:36:20 PM

There is no doubt that Clinton cannot close the gap in pledged delegates between now and the end of the primary season. That is not being disputed. However, if she can maintain the same gap from now until the end, Obama's overall margin will continue to decrease.

The fact remains that both candidates need superdelegates to put them over the top. And with a margin of about 3% in pledged delegates, the superdelegates won't have to worry about turning over the "will of the people."

Posted by: LOM | Apr 15, 2008 12:35:12 PM

At the CQ Politics site there is new and detailed analysis of the delegate count in the Pennsylvania districts.

It shows that even if Clinton wins with a pretty comfortable margin in the overall percentage, the proportional representation system makes that the net result in delegates won't mean much for Obama's now insurmountable lead in pledged delegates.

Check it out, the article "Clinton Rates Slim Edge Over Obama in PA District Delegate Race".

Posted by: ken | Apr 15, 2008 12:28:05 PM

Hillary overplayed her hand. Nuff said.

Posted by: Dann | Apr 15, 2008 12:27:32 PM

dl: So, if Obama can't close the deal, get the required number of delegates, should we change the rules to accommodate him and make it look like he is the winner although he hasn't actually really won the nomination but he has come kinda close??? Do we want the person who wins caucus states that never go Democratic and can't win the states that always swing or go democratic? In what parallel universe does this make sense that he can win the general election?

Posted by: AmazonTraveler | Apr 15, 2008 12:23:12 PM

"RCP avarages of the national polls"

RCP averages are a pile of nonsense. People who look at an average of averages don't understand math.

Posted by: LOM | Apr 15, 2008 12:22:20 PM

"So, If he outspends her 4:1 and still loses by 10%, which looks likely, howis it this man is supposed to win a general election."

Very simple. By attracting a helluvalot more voters than McCain. As is pretty much everybody's (Republicans among them) expectation.

For a long time now Obama is doing better against McCain than Clinton, in the RCP avarages of the national polls, so there's not an argument in favor of Cinton to be found here.

Besides, according to the Clinton campaign (Wolfson) today Obama is outspending them 2 to 1, not 4 to 1.

PA was all about the popular vote, remember? If Obama will be able to hold to his lead in the popular vote (besides his lead in pledged delegates) even John Murtha will vote for him in Denver.

That's where Obama's spending is about. Besides, he got the money to do it, while Hillary will be in DEEP financial troubles at the end of this month. Mark my words.

Posted by: ken | Apr 15, 2008 12:13:53 PM

Sorry, he can't win the White House.

Posted by: s.b. | Apr 15, 2008 12:01:37 PM

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