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Obama Explains Why Some Small Town Pennsylvanians Are "Bitter"
April 11, 2008 3:59 PM
The Huffington Post's Mayhill Fowler reports that, at that same San Francisco fundraiser where Obama revealed his previously unknown college sojourn to Pakistan, the junior senator from Illinois seemed to try to get inside the mind of small towners in Pennsylvania, with a dose of sociology and a dollop of dime-store psychology.
"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
It seems to me that this comment could be interpreted fairly easily as dismissing people who hold views on guns, or religion, or immigration, or trade because they believe in those views -- and not because they're "bitter" or lashing back at a system that has discarded them.
- jpt
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A final word,
Obama was foolish to say that – even if it is true.
I don’t look at Obama as a Muslim, a socialist, a liberal, a black man, or any of the negative terms that people ignorantly used as an excuse not to vote for someone who is intelligent, philosophical, informed, well educated and a pragmatist.
Unfortunately, all the above labels or qualities, (including intelligent) sometimes do not appear to be ones many Americans like in their leaders. “We want one of us in the White House” – which is sadly why Sarah Palin brought in a few votes from these people who “cling to guns or religion…” for the Republicans when common sense would ask what is appealing about someone who is so clueless about the world.
Ok, I suppose clueless is a label, but it clearly describes what she is. How many people really know what a liberal is? Or a socialist? Or any of the other names that have been demoted to school-yard nah-ni-nah-nah status?
It’s amusing to see how virulent and hot under the collar people get using these labels. And the more uneducated and closed minded, the louder they are. Especially the religious nuts.
I am happy labeling Obama a gentleman, and thrilled he has won, because being a gentleman, he will bring a level of civilization to the White House and international politics that has been sadly lacking the last eight years.
Posted by: Timothy Holt | Nov 5, 2008 11:54:57 AM
As a Pennsylvanian, I am offended by Senator Obama's comments. As a Christian, I am offended by Obama's comments. I don't cling to religion out of fear, nor do I have a gun in my home. I don't understand how a man who has accomplished absolutely nothing in his career is on his way to the White House. How can you vote for a man who's spiritual mentor is Jeremiah "God **** America" Wright and Bill Ayers, a terrorist? Wake up America he can't even right a sentence! (Change we can believe in? A preposition can never end a sentence- duuurrrrr)
Posted by: NOBAMA08 | Oct 1, 2008 6:53:52 PM
I have a lot of friends and family that live in rural PA. And many of them are pissed off that their jobs are being exported to cheap labor overseas. And they have every right to be angry at a government that has ignored them.
And what does rev. wright have to do with anything? Be reasonable people.
Posted by: anyone | Apr 15, 2008 12:26:41 AM
Folks, when you have a presidential nominee who belongs to--gives his heart to-- a Church with a Preacher who makes the statements he does, what do you expect? Birds of a feather do stick together. He also belongs to the black caucus in the Senate. That alone makes me waunder why there should be segregration. If he segregates as a senator, he would do the same with small town rural people. He is more concerned with inner city politics and what he can do there.
Posted by: dennis fite | Apr 14, 2008 4:21:11 PM
Oppsss... I drink to much wine so I missspoke!
Posted by: Julie | Apr 14, 2008 1:37:46 AM
The best thing that could happen is that the desperate attack by Clinton on Obama's use of the word "bitter" becomes a debatable issue on Wednesday. The truth of the statements will again show her as out of touch and leaning on the media to limit candor and serious discussion about the real feelings of America.
Tell me which of these definitions for "biter" don't fit for those who've lost hope and opportunity over the last 25 years
2: marked by intensity or severity: a: accompanied by severe pain or suffering b: being relentlessly determined : vehement c: exhibiting intense animosity d (1): harshly reproachful (2): marked by cynicism and rancor e: intensely unpleasant especially in coldness or rawness
3: expressive of severe pain, grief, or regret
I'm as independent a voter as one will find, and will vote Obama because ultimately honest remarks like this can't be spun by the media. The truth of the remarks will resurface to show that policies of old like NAFTA, steel legislation that limited competitive advantage, and inept immigration laws have all caused "bitterness." Senator McClain and Bill and Hilliary have been
major players in legislation that created much of this bitterness.
Posted by: jeoff123 | Apr 13, 2008 7:27:14 AM
I bet Obama comments probably can be traced back to what Rev. Wright might have said in one of his sermons.
It would not surprise me if there is a tape of Rev. Wright sayng the same thing in church.
I hope the media that have gumshun will look into this. Obama cannot just come to this concluson by himself. This is the Rev. Wright influence that we all fear. 20 years of listening to garbage in that church has to take a toll on Obama and his family.
Posted by: Sam | Apr 13, 2008 12:30:47 AM
It would be interesting to see how much overtime Roland Martin will put in at CNN to try and bury the story.
Did you see how camp Obama try to deny ever saying something like that until the audio was played out? To me, that is the bigger problem - this pattern of LIES.
Wake up America! Wake up!
Posted by: SO1 | Apr 13, 2008 12:07:53 AM
I think Obama should return to giving inspiring "plagiarized speeches" borrowed from Rev. Wright.
Speaking off the cuff is not working. Somebody prepare him a speech before he ruins the Democratic party.
The more he tries to explain the comment the worse it becomes.
Posted by: SO | Apr 13, 2008 12:01:07 AM
"By no means does Obama knows all... The problem however, is that he clearly articulates the situation and challenges us to work our way towards solutions."
Oh, yeah. He's all about challenging us to "working towards solutions." Of which he has precious few, I should note.
I haven't seen a more shallow, more hollow politician than Barak Obama in ages. The guy just spouts off about hope and unity in countless platitudes, never expressing how those are to be obtained. Then when you finally get the guy off with this elitist, arrogant brethren, he obliterates his message of hope and unity in ridiculous and uncomprehending condescention.
I'm happy to see him go down in flames. He has been tossing around his fluff for far too long.
Posted by: CMartel2 | Apr 12, 2008 8:29:27 PM
If you are not bitter you will be by the election is over. I love Hillary Clinton but I am not voting for her. It has been said and proven that Obama and Hillary have the same policy pretty much. It is also said that they have voted the same as she has in the senate. Stop being victims of trickery politics. They say who is more electable. It’s like the glass half empty or half full. Anyone is electable but some are easier to beat. Democrats we are so close to winning this thing but because of our divisiveness we are closer to loosing this. I urge you to look at your life, your children's lives and ask yourself are you willing to risk things getting worse for you and your family just to vote for someone who is likely to loose and not vote for someone with the same policies and more likely to win. When you make these comments or go to the polls during the primaries take a moment to unselfishly think about your children, your family, and your future. Republicans (not all) are not switching their party in large numbers in order to vote for Hillary because they believe in her. The republican despises the Clintons. It is because they know that voting for her in the primaries secures the Whitehouse for four more years. I only expect the intelligent bloggers to get this. All the polls and statistics indicate that Hillary's supporter is uneducated. I have to believe different but the republicans are banking on our ignorance and stupidity. However, I must admit when I hear how people respond to these silly politics, it makes me wonder if they are right. Many of would like to believe that we would do anything for our children. But would we put our differences aside so that a Democrat will win office. This is what I had to do. Otherwise, I would have voted for Hillary. This is not American Idol. Do your own research. She will not win. The Republican have a full proof plan together ready to unleash it on her. They can't do the same for Obama.
Posted by: Sherry | Apr 12, 2008 5:56:15 PM
For to long people like Obama have looked down thier nose at hard working class people it shows what class he is in. This is not being taken well in Pa.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 12, 2008 5:14:04 PM
Hillary Clinton and John McCain inner thoughts Friday night: "Thank you Obama, thank you." So much for the knock-out blow in PA.
Posted by: David | Apr 12, 2008 2:04:19 PM
Being born of mixed parentage, Obama secretly wishes he was 100% caucasian.....................and for this reason, he has a big 'chip' on his shoulder!!! The more he talks, the more he 'turns off' the voters. I notice 'they' have gagged Michele!!!
Posted by: PaGirl | Apr 12, 2008 2:03:42 PM
President of Disneyland? No thanks.
Hillary and McCain are playing Pollyanna politics.
You can mince his words to your pleasure, but Obama is telling it like it is.
Americans are bitter when their customer service phone calls are answered by someone with an Indian accent.
Americans are bitter about policies that favor job outsourcing.
Posted by: ostracizzle | Apr 12, 2008 1:06:50 PM
Let's correct a few things here. Obama was only talking about black racists, white racists and Hispanic racists who are registered democrats. The dem party spends money talking about race and they are talking about themselves.
Pay attention to this dem bloodletting. It will be a huge Republican sweep in November. One wonders how many communists were in the audience in good old, *let's declare San Francisco and open city.*
Posted by: Richard | Apr 12, 2008 11:49:21 AM
If you haven't herd by now Sen. Barack Obama stepped in it out in San Fran speaking like a typical Fly-over Stater about Central Pennsylvania.
"And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Irony Essence Magazine Rolland Martin made an excuse for the comment by also answering the question of "what happens to you and your community when the economics change" you adjust and moved on. For the rest of you kids, the Rust Belt region of the US have had problems since the 1970's so what grinds my gears is when Obama used this time to "convently" blame Bush and Clinton...
... This leads into a poor lesson in Civics. The Nations Capital dose not have all the answers however your state house just might, your mayors office just might. I keep tell you that the power is in you, not a senator from Illinois. Or any other politician for that matter. These people serve you, you serve you God, family then Nation.
Whats that smell, your candidate just stepped in it deep... Hillary wins PA.
McCain Wins in Nov
Posted by: Jibreel Riley | Apr 12, 2008 11:46:30 AM
I live in a small town in PA, Obama. I only spend my time frustrated and bitter about the way the government is run, taking a huge chunk of my hard-earned income and wasting it on useless programs. That is what I spend my time doing.
Posted by: Richard | Apr 12, 2008 11:32:47 AM
Obama made it sound like the people who lost their jobs are just sitting around, going to church and stroking their guns. I think it was not wise to discuss these people in San Franciso with a room full of rich contributors. Why not address it in Pa to thse affected? Working people are the backbone of this nation. He should apologize and stop digging deeper. He's never experienced such circumstances. It seemed he was sitting on his throne looking down on the "little people". He shouldn't try to define them but rather discuss with them.
Posted by: Vivi | Apr 12, 2008 11:25:51 AM
There's no doubt that Michelle is bitter but what's her excuse?? She didn't loose her job, in fact she got some kind of kick-back raise when BHO was elected senator. Whatever the source of her bitterness, it's obvious that it made her and BHO "cling" to Jeremiah Wright and their anti-American, racist, hate mongering "religion". Perhaps BHO Freud can reflect upon that with his dime store psychology.
Posted by: Mary | Apr 12, 2008 11:25:21 AM
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