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Obama on Those Who Say He Doesn't Respect the Flag: 'It's a Lie'
April 26, 2008 3:59 PM
At a town hall in Kokomo, Ind., Friday a woman told Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., that her mother wasn’t going to vote for him because he didn’t "address the flag."
"This is a phony issue," Obama said. "So let me address it right now."
ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports that the lanky Illinoisan said that "folks have been sending out these emails trying to make it out like I am not a patriot and I don't salute the flag and I don't pledge allegiance and this and that and the other. This is all phony. This is not true. You know, I've been saying the pledge of allegiance since I was what, four? Four years old. I lead, when I'm presiding in the Senate, I lead the pledge of allegiance, as the presiding officer of the Senate, when I open up the Senate, so it's been on C-SPAN.
"There are two places where this rumor started," Obama said. "All right? Number one, we were at an event in Iowa and the 'Star Spangled Banner' was being sung by a woman and the camera caught me, not, I didn't have my hand over my heart while I was listening and singing along with her, not out of disrespect, just because I was listening to her song and thought, 'Boy, I was getting into the song.' Now, I acknowledge the mistake of not having put my hand over my heart during the singing of the 'Star Spangled Banner,' although anybody who's watching -- I'm gonna look at all of you at a ball game one time and see if you always get it right, 'cause sometimes, we all, I just want to point that out, so that's point number one.
"And the second thing, the way this has come up is the fact that I don't always wear a flag pin. Now I don't know if any of you who don't have flag pins consider yourselves unpatriotic. I think you're patriotic. The reason that I don't always wear a flag pin is not that I disrespect the flag, it's that when I started wearing a flag pin after 9/11, I gotta admit that sometimes I would misplace it and so I didn't always put it on."
Obama then referred to the time last October, when a Cedar Rapids, Iowa, TV reporter asked him why he didn't wear a flag pin.
"Then I was asked about this in Iowa," Obama said. "And somebody said 'Why don't you wear a flag pin?' I said, well, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I said, although I will say that sometimes I notice that they're people who wear flag pins but they don't always act patriotic. And I was specifically referring to politicians, not individuals who wear flag pins, but politicians who you see wearing flag pins and then vote against funding for veterans, saying we can't afford it."
(What Obama said last October was: "You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin. Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest. Instead, I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism.")
Obama continued, saying "so I make this comment. suddenly a bunch of these, you know, TV commentators and bloggers (say) 'Obama is disrespecting people who wear flag pins.' Well, that's just not true. Also, another way of saying it is, it's a lie."
Obama finished, telling the crowd, "anybody who tells you out there that I disrespect the flag, that I don't salute the flag, that I don't say the pledge of allegiance, that I don't wear flag pins -- don't listen to 'em. Look at what I do and look at what I say and my commitment to making this a stronger country. And, you know, I get pretty fed up with people questioning my patriotism, especially a bunch of these folks who do who have instituted policies that have made America weaker. I am happy to have that debate with them anyplace, anytime."
- jpt
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Are you people serious!!!!???? After the tramatic downfall of our country I can't believe that people are worried about materialistic things.Bush has dragged our economy into the ground and clothes and pins are now the issue. I'm a senior in high school and I have more common sense than that. Obama seems to want change America for the better so why don't we let him do that!!! Our economy is so messed up we can only go up. People wise up materialistic things such as wearing a pin and not singing the national anthem are not the issues America is facing.
Posted by: Melinda | Jun 5, 2008 9:59:28 PM
Where's Hillary's flag pin? Where's McCain's most of the time? No where to be seen. It's a phony issue.
Posted by: nordstrom | Apr 29, 2008 9:33:57 AM
Obama gets hammered on this, because he made it an issue, all by his little lonesome. He made a big point of how some people portray fake patriotism by wearing a flag pin, but then act in an unpatriotic fashion. OK, live by the sword (or flag pin), die by the sword. He's the one who made it an issue, so he's the one getting questioned about it. The other candidates have not, so it's not a deal for them.
And now Obama has changed his tune, too. Some would call it lying.
Posted by: Julie | Apr 28, 2008 5:55:42 PM
' I am happy to have that debate with them anyplace, anytime."'
Mr. Obama,
How about addressing it on the Bill O'Reilly Show so we all can see it, live.
Posted by: Kim | Apr 28, 2008 3:45:36 PM
They have audio of him saying he does not wear the pin because he does not respect it!! Look it up!!
Posted by: spock | Apr 28, 2008 10:20:03 AM
Obama YOUR A LIAR!!!
Posted by: spock | Apr 28, 2008 10:19:00 AM
Okay:
If you expect to be the President of the United States someday, you had better start respecting the flag or the flag pins a lot more! If you win, that is who you are; that is you identity. Yes, maybe the United States has made some mistakes, but who doesn't? Just put it on. Your mother, I'm sure would say "just do it". You're crazy if you think that it is not important to Americans! We are proud and so you should be also....so wear it....and then make your changes if you happen to win. Okay??
Chris in Indiana (oh yes, we care here and I hear that we might just be important to you, so next time I see you put that pin on)...Go America!
Posted by: chris | Apr 28, 2008 3:27:20 AM
I have that picture of him stored on my computer. I just went back and looked at the picture. Tell me how one sings with his mouth shut. Another one of his lies.
Posted by: DCharles | Apr 27, 2008 10:46:05 PM
People in America you are being dooped SO BAD by the media, the Clintons, John McCain and the Republicans!!!!!!! We are talking about what a man wears on his suit coat when gas is approaching $5.00 a gallon in some places, food prices have gone up, unemployment is up, healthcare cost are ridiculous, etc. How blind are you????
Well as my grandmother used to say a hard head will make a soft behind. A lot of Americans are insane. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If you put either Hillary or McCain in office that is what you are because they have been in Washington for 30+ years with all of their experience and have done nothing that has stopped or slowed down any of this. Now they want the opportunity to run the country? ARE YOU SERIOUS?????!!!!!! If America puts them in office it will be on the people that voted for them. I will have a clear conscience because I won't participate in the further demise of this country.
Posted by: Dennis in Orlando, FL | Apr 27, 2008 9:03:20 PM
I notice Obama wearing a T shirt with
the initials 'USMC'.
Is he a member of the US Marines?
Does his wife approve of that, since
she seems to to be ashamed of the US?
Posted by: don dale | Apr 27, 2008 8:07:06 PM
The President of the United States traditionally sets an example on patriotism to help unite the country. The pin is not that important except as a example of an almost childlike refusal to do what is expected of him: "I will NOT wear my boots, Mom, you can't make me." For crying out loud, just put the stupid pin on and quit wasting everybody's time!
Posted by: jkr | Apr 27, 2008 6:39:54 PM
What is AMERICAN?
Freedom of expression -- as long as it does not harm others
Freedom of Religion -- the place where Christians both Protestant and Catholic, Muslims, Buddhists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientologists, Atheists, Agnostics, Jews, and any other religion can worship or not
The right to gain wealth (in a legal/legitimate manner, of course)
The opportunity to become educated in practically anything one chooses
The country founded and developed by people from everywhere on this planet who have the right to observe their ethnic cultures
and the American Government is in place to protect these "freedoms"
What is ANTI-American
are those who desire to continue to oppress or deny others' freedoms
There is nothing Anti-American about protesting a war that is destroying COUNTRIES and their native inhabitants (thousands) under the "ruse" of finding a few "terrorists"
There is nothing Anti-American about expressing your shame that your government engaged in this ruse
There is nothing Anti-American about admonishing your government and military to aid those countries who actively seek and request assistance, and leave alone those who do not
I find nothing unAmerican or Anti-American about the Obamas
Posted by: Perplexed | Apr 27, 2008 5:39:08 PM
Nimrod Gently - I hate to burst your bubble, but socialism has always been a part of the U.S. policital scene. Currently, Bernie Sanders, the Senator from Vermont, describes himself as a "democratic socialist." Democratic socialism advocates socialism as a basis for the economy and democracy as a governing principle. In 1912, labor leader Eugene Debs, representing the Socialist Party of America, received 6% of the popular vote or president.
Posted by: David H | Apr 27, 2008 4:58:21 PM
The American flag was created by racists,at a time when blacks had no human rights.Would you wear something that your people were enslaved under?
Posted by: america | Apr 27, 2008 1:54:15 PM
from Racheal: "Frankly, I think the press in this country are a disgrace"
Racheal, how many opportunities more does the press have to give Obama? To be real honest with you, If Obama can't answer the question well, that isn't the fault of the question. Obama even misquoted himself in the article! Get real Racheal, it isn't about his skin color or his name, it is about whether he is credible, honest, and cares about this country enough to be leader of this nation. If he even has to misquote himself, (some would call that lying), that is not a good sign of his leadership abilities. Have you seen the whole video of him not putting his hand over his heart at the appearance in Iowa? And his excuse, "I was really getting into it." Cut it out and get real. It isn't Hillary or the republicans bringing Obama down, Obama is doing a good enough job of that himself.
Posted by: bob | Apr 27, 2008 1:17:35 PM
Look up the word "socialist" before you use it. You don't have socialism in America and no-one in the Democratic party is one.
Posted by: Nimrod Gently | Apr 27, 2008 12:35:10 PM
I have never seen a better or more eloquent and knowledgeable explanation of what
is at stake in this election than that of Greg
Nubeck, and the following post of Final Answer.
I had totally forgotten that Bill Clinton did make
the announcement of his fiat for the Red Hills of
Utah from Arizona to avoid the fallout.
It's so disheartening to read the posts of those
who would vote for Obama (by the way, he
HAS lied, so many times) or Edwards, another
socialist. They obviously haven't bothered to
fully research the intents and ambitions of all
the candidates. Even those of the very one they
support!
The final word on what is at stake in the upcoming
election are these words from Greg Nubeck:
"ANY TIME you vote for a
Democrat, ANY DEMOCRAT, you're unmistakably multiplying the capacity of
these LEFT-WING FRINGE ELEMENTS to continue to promote their radical
agenda, and to bring our Nation to its knees. A circumstance that no
external power ever could have accomplished.
The ability to restore our Nation's status; and, to sustain this Sacred
Land that the RATIONAL MAJORITY so proudly calls AMERICA, resides in
your hands at the ballot box."
Greg Nubeck
Posted by: lulu Jones | Apr 27, 2008 12:04:42 PM
Unfortunately for Obama, the press has pieced together a narrative about him being unpatriotic. No flag pin, no hand over heart, Michelle Obama says she has never been proud of America, and the big one, sitting for twenty years listening to a pastor who screams "God damn America." I, for one, do not believe he is unpatriotic, I just think he will not fight for American interests as vigorously as Hillary. I think that, out of his Rev. Wright inspired belief that America has been unfair in its dealings with other countries, he will not always put America first. Many, however, do believe that he is unpatriotic, possibly even a Manchurian candidate. The narrative has begun to stick. McCain and Rove will build on this narrative in the fall and destroy Obama with it. The entire premise of McCain's negative campaign against Obama will be to paint Obama as a socialist, Black Power, left wing radical who does not share middle American beliefs. Given Obama's inherent sense of elitism, his core constituency of hard core liberals and inner city Blacks, and his unwillingness to mix it up in a debate format, it is hard to see Obama fending off these kinds of attacks.
Posted by: David H | Apr 27, 2008 11:17:06 AM
So he said, "I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest." But I say sorry, it doesn't matter what your convoluted reason is for refusing to honor a flag and the nation it symbolizes, it only says one thing, and that very clearly, that you are not willing to identify yourself with that nation. That is the issue! America has never done anything good? America has never been generous? America has no concept of liberty, justice and fair play? America was not founded on noble principles? Obama is not willing to stand by that accumulated good and increase it and improve on it? Obama is not willing to examine the concepts of those who founded this nation and see how he can realize their aspirations? Does Obama even know what they had in mind? No, I suggest that Obama has very little interest in these underlying principles, and his real interest is to appear acceptable to those who support him elsewhere in the world. WHO, for instance? Those who have stated that they want to impose Sharia Law on the United States? Better dig out your flag pin, sir, and pin it prominently, and better salute the flag and stand respectfully when the National Anthem is played. Without the strong house of North America to live in, you will all be exposed to the terrors and cruelties of 5,000 years ago, the ages and ages of brutality and destruction. Do you doubt it? Look at the ruins and wreckage of nations and civilizations lying in the dust everywhere in the Old World. What destroyed them? The disastrous cruelty and evil that human beings inflict on each other. Do you think you are safe from that dark past? Hardly! It is only the Constitution of the United States that protects you. Do you even hear what the terrorists are saying? They want to destroy your nation and kill every infidel in it. That's you! Did you know you are an infidel? I am an infidel, and you are an infidel, Jake Tapper. Do you not even sense the waves of hate coming at you because you persist in following your own conscience, in being a Christian, or an agnostic, or an atheist? Better turn up your radar.
Posted by: John | Apr 27, 2008 10:06:37 AM
Obama's lack of forthrightness on a LOT of issues is beginning to take a serious toll on his credibility.
He arrogantly seems to believe the voters, even the ones in his own party, don't deserve to have their concerns about his contradictory positions (NAFTA, capital gains taxes, et al)even be addressed. He evidently truly believes that trite Hallmark greeting card sentiments like Hope & Change should suffice for the bitter unwashed masses.
Faced with growing evidence that Obama is a very different man behind closed doors than he is on the stump reading from a teleprompter, whether he's indulging in elitist condescension on Billionaire's Row, bathing himself in the toxic swamp of racial & religious hatred in the nave of Trinity Church,or supplicating himself to cowardly anti-american extremists in Hyde Park, voters - yes, even liberal ones - are justifiably concerned.
Yet rather than stand up like a man & reconcile the mounting heap of hypocricy upon which he's been caught redhanded straddling athwart so weakly, he hides from the stark contradictions in his character like a timid five year old child.
Any other politician would have seized the ABC debate to clarify his vague positions & assuage voters' growing doubts about the paucity of his qualifications & the glaring disparities in the content of his character.
Instead the DNC's golden boy wilted like a hothouse flower, curled up into a fetal position & whined about 'distractions' put forth by a biased media.
Say what? Good Lord, if Barrack Obama can't hold his own against Charlie Gibson to defend *himself* , I shudder to think how he would hold up against Kim Jong Il or a crazed ayatollah defending the rest of us!
If he wants the people out here who have the obligation to protect their children & grandchildren's economic & social welfare, he's going to have to do better than vote 'present', retreat into the cloakroom to eat his waffle anytime the going gets a little bumpy & the situation requires a little leadership.
WOW! You know it's pretty bad when a former first lady seems to be toting around more hardware in her underwear than the presumptive frontrunner for the democratic party nomination does.
Take away the teleprompter loaded with speeches his wealthy white handlers have written for him, and it's painfully obvious that there just ain't a whole lotta there there.
But then, this is what primaries are for, no? We get to discover who these people really are.
In Obama's case, a besotted &, I now believe, a profoundly racially paternalistic national media allowed too many of his warts to remain hidden for far too long.
Posted by: FinalAnswer | Apr 27, 2008 9:51:34 AM
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