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Obama Spin Level of Difficulty: 9.7
April 14, 2008 9:08 AM
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is trying to explain his comments about small-town Pennsylvanians to the San Francisco crowd as a clumsily-worded compliment.
Obama told the Winston-Salem Journal "If I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that. ... What I meant was something that I don’t think any of us can argue with, which is that people feel abandoned after 20 or 25 years of plants closing, jobs not coming back. People feel like Washington’s not listening to them, and as a consequence, they find that they can only rely on the traditions and the things that have been important to them for generation after generation. Faith. Family. Traditions like hunting. And they get frustrated.”
Ah, yes. Those wonderful traditions.
Faith.
Family.
Bigotry.
Xenophobia.
Because, let us recall, Obama said that, small towners, faced with economic hardship and a dismissive Washington, DC, "get bitter" and "cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
The proud traditions of small town America.
- jpt
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LMAO I loved the reference to Annie Oakley. She made fun of him first. What goes around comes around.
Posted by: jj | Apr 15, 2008 8:14:42 PM
One thing that Obama forgot to mention was that "small town" and country "folk" have is COMMON SENSE, a quality he lacks. Just because we have strong family ties, are comfortable knowing our neighbors, enjoy hunting and eating the game, are regular church goers, does not mean that we are "sheep". We judge people by their actions. Words without actions are viewed as someone who likes to hear their own voice. Thus the expression, "You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?"
Don't tell me HOW I feel, because you have no idea. As a history buff, I know that the power of the people is stronger than the power of the government, as long as the government does not take away our right of speech, privacy, right to gather. Oh, wait -- in a Democratic controlled Congress, government has done just that. The Patriot Act, FISA and others have limited those rights.
The time is ripe for a third party - a party of the people, for the people.
By the way, Annie Oakley would never take a "six shooter" out duck hunting. The duck would be blown up with one bullet. That's why there are special guns and ammunition for bird hunting -- they are called a "SHOTGUN and BIRD SHOT". And, there are hunting seasons for ducks -- not "every Sunday".
Posted by: Annie Oakley | Apr 15, 2008 6:11:28 AM
Senator Obama's comments about Senator Clinton being Annie Oakley was childless and outright stupid. The man needs to grow up, act and think like a rational man and stop his lies and distortions about his achievements (2)?and come up with his very own policies for the future instead of using Senator Clinton's ideas. He is simply a bigot wanting the power this election would give him and will do anything to convince people to vote for him. His oratory skills are his only viable asset. Talk big and deliver nothing is his style. He did this in his south Chicago district.
Posted by: Mary L. | Apr 15, 2008 2:37:14 AM
YEP....obama is a uniter!!
HE IS UNIFYING EVERYONE TO VOTE AGAINST HIM!!!
Posted by: tim | Apr 15, 2008 1:11:15 AM
Obama mocked and outright attacked Hillary today for her downing a shot in Indiana the other night saying it was just a way to get press yet it was Obama who was shown in the media having a beer and bowling (rather poorly) in PA. Talk about a cheap shot and a foul. He did exactly what he is accusing her of doing.
Posted by: Eric | Apr 14, 2008 8:53:38 PM
Well Jake as far as the spin machine goes let's see whe believes he was complimenting small town America and who believes the cropped quote that so many in the MSM are putting out.
First he denies...then he lies...next I expect Obama to attack full force...because he knows that the press has his back.
Perhaps this is like any other conflict and it started when his campaign started smearing the other candidates and innocent bystanders as racists...or maybe it started in the pulpit of Oabma's church with profane and racist attacks.
The problem being if you excuse and reward and deny this type of behaviour for some and condemn it in others....the guy that has had it excused and rewarded is going to feel like it's a campaign tactic that works...
I do not think Obama is an elitist...I think he feels like Wright has been excused and accepted and his campaign has profited from playing the race card...I think Obama feels entitiled and frustrated and even bitter,,,After all the MSM has been saying that the election is over and Hillary (who I'm sure he's called every name in the book at similar fundraisers) is still running.
Not elitist just entitled and maybe a little bitter that he is losing in PA.
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 14, 2008 8:44:00 PM
People!
Do you want to stop the war in Iraq? Do you want the economy to recover? Do you want good-paying jobs to stop leaving the country? Do you want corporations to stop offshoring their business and throwing you out of job, house,and home?
If so, stop attacking the Democratic candidate. Work to register people to vote. It doesn't matter who they vote for. Let the best candidate win. Stop fighting each other, keep your eyes on the prize!
If McCain wins, the economy goes straight down the toilet. Kiss your job goodbye, kiss your house goodbye, and kiss your kids goodbye because they'll be getting blown up in Iraq.
Posted by: mps | Apr 14, 2008 7:52:11 PM
What Obama said is so true. Many of us who have lost our jobs, have no hralthcare, and haven't beleived our government will do anything to help us with economic issues do indeed votre based on issues such as gun-control, religion(abortion and gay rights), immigration, terrorism and war. The politicians use these issues to distract and divide us while they spend our future in Iraq and sell Americans out to Mexico and China. Who wouldn't be bitter?
Posted by: Peg | Apr 14, 2008 7:35:08 PM
C'mon! Words don't matter...?
Posted by: Jsn | Apr 14, 2008 7:19:57 PM
"I hope that Mayhill Fowler isn't being threatened or harrassed by Obama people."
Yes: we should all pray that Fowler doesn't ... fall under a bus, or something. Let's hope she's on vacation, under another name.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 14, 2008 7:07:22 PM
I'm listening to the FAUX outrage from Jeffrey Toobin (a classmate of Obama's) on CNN bemoaning the change in strategy of Hillary Clinton. He talks about how she used to talk about healthcare et. al but now she's stooped to criticizing Obama about his condescending remarks.
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
When she did talk about the issues, no one covered it. They were only interested in slamming her - while they gave a pass to their guy OBama. For the past 2 months, it's been non stop slamming of Clinton.
Now Cafferty - that cranky jerk is saying that most of his e-mails from listeners - tell him this is a non-issue. People do we believe this is a non issue?
Email cafferty at CNN and let him know it does matter that we have a presidential candidate who 'disses' whole segments of our population.
Posted by: s. valenti | Apr 14, 2008 6:45:20 PM
I hope that Mayhill Fowler isn't being threatened or harrassed by Obama people. I wonder how many people are out there afraid to go up against Obama's machine.
Posted by: s. valenti | Apr 14, 2008 6:32:54 PM
I also saw John Mccain would rather run against Clinton. I think he is afraid running against Obama will turn into a racial thing.
Also can you tell me any ex-president and first lady in recent years who have not become rich. Look at Obama he hasn't even won the nomination and he is already rich.
Posted by: Ken | Apr 14, 2008 6:18:49 PM
Russ, you're right about his constant stream of mistatements. Remember, this is the man who has promised to meet with America's worst enemies without preconditions or negotiations. Do we really want this man representing us?
Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 14, 2008 6:13:27 PM
"If this actually turns the election, we deserve everything we get. Whatever happened to the proud tradition of the 4th Estate?"
Those who aren't well-fixed mobsters or miscellaneous zillionaires certainly deserve something better than Obama. And Mayhill Fowler -- who outed Obama's remarks at the Gettys' -- deserves a biiig prize.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 14, 2008 6:07:54 PM
Heck, I'd be happy if they'd just enforce the existing ones. And as far as anti-trade sentiment - what is it with all of this drive to clean up the environment, go green while all the while Americans are buying almost everything from China where they don't care a hoot about the environment or for the labor force. Have you seen the rivers overflowing with plastic in China? I'd say buy American made products only but thanks to nafta, there just isn't any.
Posted by: southernbell | Apr 14, 2008 5:50:24 PM
I am religious, I carry a gun and I am for stronger immigration laws, apparently I am atypical.
Posted by: southerbell | Apr 14, 2008 5:41:44 PM
Wonder how much Hillary's camp pays to have people talk her up on these blogs
Posted by: southernbell | Apr 14, 2008 5:37:35 PM
Obama has a classification for every American. Typical white person, typical black person and now typical religious, gun totting clinging to illegal immigration issues.
Posted by: jp,michigan | Apr 14, 2008 5:35:02 PM
The media is trying to divert Americans attention by bringing up the Clinton's wealth.
I am so tired that the media keeps saying that the Clinton’s are multi-millionaires. I am proud that they are the American dream. They came from very humble backgrounds and both were lawyers that took the route that helped the average American. The Senator from Illinois in the meantime defended a slumlord and past terrorists. He too is a multi-millionaire or was his $1.65 million dollar home somehow did not cost between one and two million dollars. Did the media miss math 101 in the same manner as the Senator from Illinois?
Hillary Clinton’s father worked in the Post Office and her mother worked all her life so that her brother and Sen. Clinton could go to college. Sen. Clinton worked to pay for her dorm and books through her college years. President Clinton’s mother was a nurse and his stepfather worked as well. Through academics, he excelled and this helped his political career. Now the Senator from Illinois is also a millionaire although he has not had the seven years like the Clinton’s to build his wealth.
It took the Clinton’s until they were in their 60s to become multi-millionaires. They earned their wealth by writing books and President Clinton’s speeches. There is nothing illegal about earning wealth this way regardless of the audience. Along the way, they served in the public sector for over 30 years and as far as I recall, they never owned a home until President Clinton retired as President.
Now Fox News reported that Sen. Barack Obama started opposing the Iraqi war one week before Sen. Hillary Clinton starting in 2002.
What I do not understand why Sen. Barack Obama refuses to make an apology for any mistake he makes. The fact remains that the media is the one that always makes excuses for Obama.
Finally, like myself, regardless of what the press says, Hillary people will go to McCain.
Posted by: Dr Hubert, Lt Col, USAF Retired | Apr 14, 2008 5:33:43 PM
Hey...I'm a conservative from a small town, NRA member.
I'm also self aware that I am bitter about off shoring, I am bitter about race being used in college admissions, I am bitter about being treated as an idiot because I have faith in a surpreme being, and I am bitter about NAFTA.
Oh yeah, and I AM bitter about a woman running for commanger in chief who lies with her husband about being under fire while we have soldiers dying in a foreign land.
Posted by: Alex, from Texas | Apr 14, 2008 3:56:40 PM
I'm actually happy that the media and the people of this country are starting to come out and realize about Obama. How can you support a leader who put his own people down like that. Obama has been making alot of mistakes in his speeches, especially the hatred that are coming out from his heart.
HE HAS BEEN STEREOTYPING THIS WHOLE RACE.
Posted by: Sammie | Apr 14, 2008 3:48:32 PM
The troubling thing about obama is his constant stream of misstatements. Just think of him as president and he is at a summit meeting with the Russians, Chinese of anyone else and he goes in a group of misstatements. think of the mess that that coult create. His judgement is suspect. It took him 20 yrs and a run for the presidency to tell Babs Walters that if his racist minister didn't retire, he'd leave the church. What a crock. If we're attacked he has to act immediately, not take 20 yrs. He's a product of the corrupt Chicago Daly political machine. When John Kennedy ran for president and lost Ill. mayor daly found some extra votes that were missed, and when counted, brought Ill. in the Kennedy win column. Later, when checked, these votes were by dead people. they were gotten from the cemetary. check your history books.
the republicans must be salavating waiting for him to run. He's supplying all the ammo they anyone can need.I hear that Chris Matthews bought himself a blue dress and some cigars.
Posted by: Russ | Apr 14, 2008 3:36:33 PM
"almost time to see what wolf, cafferty and co. have in store"
Have Matthews and Olbermann (and mewling mascot Jonathan Alter) taken to their sick-beds yet?
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 14, 2008 3:32:37 PM
"Astroturfing," a reference to manufacturing grassroots support.
One gets the impression, interestingly enough, that astroturfing for the "post-partisan" candidate's made use of the bi-partisan (everybody from the Cheney girls to the uber-left) "gay-rights" network.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 14, 2008 3:26:52 PM
almost time to see what wolf, cafferty and co. have in store for Sen. Clinton this evening.
I just know they are all going to get to the bottom of the obama remarks and figure out a way to blame her.
I know his handlers are trying to come up with a way to just keep him quiet until after the primaries.
I know now why the dnc want to get sen.
clinton to step aside.
only because-they cannot keep spinning this guy as the real deal for long.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 14, 2008 3:26:06 PM
Morningside - and add this to the Axelrod factor: His internet campaign manager is Chris Hughes, one of the original founders of Facebook, which explains the viral internet campaign, that has children believing they are "involved" in Obama's campaign, by becoming a "buddy" of his on sites like MySpace and Facebook. This is a whole new type of predator on the Internet.....
Posted by: Sandy in PA | Apr 14, 2008 3:22:54 PM
Be watchful about how Obama and Axelrod his media svengali try to spin this story and attempt to revise public opinion.
"The following is an excerpt from BusinessWeek about a relatively secret venture that Axelrod operates while he oversees Obama's campaign:
From the same River North address, Axelrod operates a second business, ASK Public Strategies, that discreetly plots strategy and advertising campaigns for corporate clients to tilt public opinion their way. He and his partners consider virtually everything about ASK to be top secret, from its client roster and revenue to even the number of its employees. But customers and public records confirm that it has quarterbacked campaigns for the Chicago Children's Museum, ComEd, Cablevision, and AT&T.
ASK's predilection for operating in the shadows shows up in its work. On behalf of ComEd and Comcast, the firm helped set up front organizations that were listed as sponsors of public-issue ads. Industry insiders call such practices "Astroturfing," a reference to manufacturing grassroots support. Alderman Brendan Reilly of the 42nd Ward, who has been battling the Children's Museum's relocation plans, describes ASK as "the gold standard in Astroturf organizing. This is an emerging industry, and ASK has made a name for itself in shaping public opinion and manufacturing public support"
People, are we going to allow this guy Axelrod to get inside our head and tell us what to think?
Posted by: morningside | Apr 14, 2008 3:11:22 PM
"That this man has gotten so far into the Democratic nomination process is a travesty. When will the DNC finally admit its mistake and ask OBAMA to step aside???"
They'll have to make it LOOK good, though: best would be for both Obama AND Clinton to withdraw -- after some enterprising Democrat (perhaps Howard Dean) stuffs pompous saboteur John Kerry into a large game bag -- and nominate John Edwards.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 14, 2008 3:10:15 PM
Yes...OBAMA --- as your words convey---
These folks CLING on to guns and religion ---------as-------- YOU CLING on to your REV. WRIGHT and his teaching s from James Cone.
You have judged your potential supporters...... with this word
You used the word CLING.
And as you try to CLING onto some support you have in PA......
enough bloggers have downloaded the AUDIO from your FundRaising Party.....
including
" When people tell me they’ve all stressed about racial discord, well, you know, try slavery for a while"
talk about getting the last word in a conversation.....
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | Apr 14, 2008 3:07:45 PM
"This occurred at a private fundraiser in california among some rich donors to the campaign, an event where the media wasn't invited, if we didn't have the lady from HP record the talk, it would remain unknown."
That is a very important point. Barry felt safe among maxed-out donors, safe enough to reveal his true condescending and elitist core.
Who doesn't think he would have LIED about the comments if they emerged but were not on tape?
That's what he tried to do when his adviser told Canada he didn't mean what he said on the stump about NAFTA.
He was forced to cop to it when the memo emerged.
Fundamentally dishonest campaign.
Posted by: Saul | Apr 14, 2008 3:01:43 PM
You city-folk don't have a clue about us no-counting small-town people, we do hold our traditions in high regard, and the fact that you assume that anyone that comes from a small town just HAS to be a ignorant racist screams, well, prejudice. Prejudice that has made our voice unheard in America because we couldn't possibly have a place in law-making, we should just shut up and let our betters make those decisions for us simple-folk, right? Cause ya'll been doing such a good job up till now. I wasn't offended by Obama's comments, he's right after all.
Posted by: southernbell | Apr 14, 2008 3:00:30 PM
We know exactly what NObama meant by his remarks. The more he tries to spin it and remove his foot from his mouth, the bigger the foot gets! If you have to constantly explain what you said then perhaps public speaking is not his forte. And everytime he attempts to explain what he really meant to say, he winds up condesending to the very people he insulted in the first place. That this man has gotten so far into the Democratic nomination process is a travesty. When will the DNC finally admit its mistake and ask OBAMA to step aside???
Posted by: Juli in PA | Apr 14, 2008 3:00:10 PM
Thank you Mr. Trapper for sharing the truth. It is good to hear someone finally remark on Barack Obama and tell it like it really IS. I appreciate your remarks so much. You are right on!
My family and I are under much stress. I am not bitter. I do not cling to my religion, guns, etc. My faith is a part of me. I love this country and know the true values that make us unlike any nation in the world. Barack Obama can only talk...he does not walk the walk. And now his talk has reflected what lies behind the mask. He does not see and know the America I know. A man behind a mask will not bring change to American. Infact, I believe he has done more to divide this country than anyone I have seen bring division for a long time. I pray he has not undone our progress since the 60's.
Posted by: Patricia GA | Apr 14, 2008 2:54:57 PM
" ... he's become embarassing even to Teddy."
That may have been written tongue-in-cheek, but is probably true. Except for the tender candidate's made-up baloney about how the Kennedys were responsible for his very conception, the bamboozled un-rich might have been spared the cheesy spectacle of THOSE endorsements.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 14, 2008 2:52:41 PM
To begin with wanted to tell everyone that I am a democrat first and a clinton supporter second. Sen. Obama no doubt gets my respect. He ran a different campaign and truly inspired many in the run for which he deserves all the credit. I had supported him with all the recent controversies but this recent incident has made him lose a lot of that respect. It is not at all to do with the comment or the word "bitter" though I agree the choice of words were wrong. Please do take a minute to read through the entire transcript or listen to the audio clip. Half knowledge is worse than no knowledge.
1. There is resentment, frustration(bitterness towards the government) among people but they don't resort to violence or antipathy. A very small percentage might(social outlaws) but most of AMERICA is resilient and have deep rooted faith and beliefs.
2. This occurred at a private fundraiser in california among some rich donors to the campaign, an event where the media wasn't invited, if we didn't have the lady from HP record the talk, it would remain unknown. If he meant to be honest he should have raised it in a small town in PA and addressed the issue head on. Seems to me like same old politics which unfortunately back fired.
3. As a hard core dem I personally took offence(in the same way when HRC implied she and mc cain are ready but obama ?, in the same way when Mrs Obama said she would have to think twice before vitong for clinton ) when he blamed the clinton administration for the lack of jobs when facts state that unemployment decreased from in PA 7.2% to 4.6% during those years. Again within closed doors to please some of his own fundraisers.
I know this is a very passionate election year and If in any way my comments might have hurt others (that was definitely not the intent)- deep felt apologies are on the table!
Amen
Posted by: Charles | Apr 14, 2008 2:51:28 PM
This man's ego is surpassed by none. He can't back away from this. His one statement then excuse for it cancels out the other statement and excuse. He has effectively painted hisself into a corner this time. I just hope that the MSM will play or quote the statement in it's entirety. The MSM has had a problem with this of late.
We are seeing things that a lot of people have been seeing for a long time.
Thanks Jake, for having the courage to say it.
Posted by: Brenda P. | Apr 14, 2008 2:46:57 PM
Thanks Mr. Tapper. For telling it like it is. The real Obama just gave the public a glimps of who he really is when he thinks no one else is listening. Of course, we all suspected as much based on Rev. Wright and Michelle's statements. Now it's come directly from the "horses" mouth.
Game OVER!
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Apr 14, 2008 2:42:01 PM
Hey Jake, you are one brave soul to call Obama out on his lies.
As time pass and we learn more about Obama, I have no doubt that he is proved to be an obnoxious ignorant fool.
Posted by: JoeSky | Apr 14, 2008 2:38:22 PM
What? Someone in the press actually said what *everyone* who isn't on Kool-aid already knows?
This is one brave journalist. I hope you don't lose your job for telling the truth.
--------------
Oh yeah!
Kool-aid here
making you smile
drink some more
smile for a while!
Posted by: Oh Yeah! | Apr 14, 2008 2:32:33 PM
This is not the first time that Obama has stepped in it by stereotyping and judging others.Remember, "typical white people?"
Posted by: NJH | Apr 14, 2008 2:31:57 PM
thank you jake for explaining these comments better than obama. now let's sit and see how the MSM like CNN and MSNBC will spin this story to favor obama.
Posted by: crystal | Apr 14, 2008 2:31:49 PM
Sort of rekindles the spirit to know there are true journalist that tell the truth without trying to spin it one way or the other. Just tell it like it is.
Posted by: Joan Stanford | Apr 14, 2008 2:27:12 PM
Poor Barry Bittergate. He just digs his hole deeper, doesn't he? He can't talk his way out of this one. Perhaps his campaign will muzzle his free speech from now on and go have him back to the same stump speech that he has already delivered 1,000 + times. You know - the one that goes like this -"Hope, Change, Hope, Change, I have no real skills or experience, but back to my original point, Hope, Change, Hope, Change, Hope, Change, everybody clap and cheer, Hope, Change....."
P.S. The Kennedys called and he's become embarassing even to Teddy.
P.P.S Kerry called and said Barry IS out of touch, but said he'd comment again after he talked to Barry on their next windsurfing trip.
Posted by: Sandy in PA | Apr 14, 2008 2:22:44 PM
Well, the chickens are finally getting off Obam-ade and coming home to roost. I only wish this man's foibles had come out 2 months ago. He is arrogant and he only has his rhetoric to offer. I cannot believe that so many have been duped so as to support this man because of his speech-making. Well, Jerry Garcia wrote great lyrics and sometimes people swooned when they heard him, but that did not make him a suitable presidential candidate. You Obama-supporters are going to be stuck with a flawed candidate who will not survive a general election; I wonder what you will cling to? Stop the madness now. Send a Democrat with a resume and a record up against McCain. By the way, you attack Sen. Clinton for her gaffe on Bosnia. At least she went to Bosnia! When has Obama visited Iraq or any war zone?
Posted by: solid4hill | Apr 14, 2008 2:18:18 PM
I am baffled as to why people with Ivy League educations are in constant need of interpreters to explain what they mean. He has yet to open his mouth with anything remotely original and not need to rephrase himself. He should stick with the Hope and Change non-specifics that have gotten him this far. When he has to speak for himself his Kool-ade leaves an aftertaste.
Posted by: Independent 1 | Apr 14, 2008 2:17:03 PM
for a person that sat in the front row of a marxist theology church, listening to the rants and raves of a racist pastor, it reminds me of his comment, "cling to your faith", and he has certainly shown us that, HE HAS BEEN CLINGING TO HIS FAITH WITH PASTOR WRIGHT FOR OVER 20 YEARS... HE LOOKS LIKE A BOBBLEHEAD DOLL IN THE FIRST ROW, HIS HEAD BOBBING UP AND DOWN IN AGREEMENT WITH "EVERY WORD" OF HATRED PASTOR WRIGHT CAN SPEW
the person who was acclaimed to be "A MAN OF ELOQUENCE, A MAN WHO BELIEVES IN THE SPOKEN WORD", he certainly is backtracking to find an explanation as to what HE REALLY WAS TRYING TO SAY, WHAT HAPPENED, HE SUDDENLY HAS FORGOTTEN THE CORRECT WORD, OR MEANING
Posted by: susan | Apr 14, 2008 2:14:54 PM
Looks like Obama's financial advantage is HURTING HIM.
There could be a critical mass for Obama's wall to wall ads in PA, if this poll is accurate.
ARG Poll:
23% of likely Democratic primary voters say that excessive exposure to Obama's advertising is causing them to support Clinton.
Posted by: Bradenton | Apr 14, 2008 1:53:28 PM
For all of you defending Obama about "what he essentially said was true," where were you all when Ferraro made her statement? Even Obama himself said it wasn't a racist remark, just "patently absurd." I don't recall you being so forgiving though, which is exactly what you are asking many of us to do here.
Posted by: LOM | Apr 14, 2008 1:51:48 PM
I'm STUNNED that someone in the mainstream media gets it. This incident is separating the intelligent reporters from the IDIOTS who cannot analyze Obama's comments logically and fall for the laughably LAME spin from the cynical Obama camp.
The Obama campaign is counting on STUPIDITY of voters and reporters for survival.
Posted by: Steve | Apr 14, 2008 1:51:22 PM
Okay, Hillary made those small town comments wearing Obama's mask.
Are we really that stupid?
I hope not, because if we are, then we deserve Obama as our president and the anguish that will linger on for the next 4 - 8 years.
Wake up people! Wake up!
Posted by: SO | Apr 14, 2008 1:38:11 PM
That's why he said he mis-spoke. Putting positive things with negative things gave the impression he was putting them all down when he wasn't. This is obvious enough unless you have a hatred of Obama or a reason to try and push this as a controversy.
Posted by: Mike | Apr 14, 2008 1:37:34 PM
for obama supporters
just tell us now
everything obama might,could, should, would say wrong is Sen. Clinton or bill clinton fault?
and anything you deem right he has said
well that is just because he is right?
Stop trying to make the remarks obama said in sf Sen. Clintons fault.
and pa woman-no matter how much you try or want it to be so-bill clinton presidency is over-I do not think you or anyone else believes that after this hard won fight-Sen. Clinton will be letting bill call the shots.
Sen Clinton will be held accountable for all the good and bad she will do.
If you are independently wealthy well you can continue to bash Sen. Clinton for bill-and give her credit for what good he did also.
but if you are working class or middle class-you should really stop listening to mr. obama speeches and start reading Sen. Clintons plan for getting this country back on the right track.
obama only copies her
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 14, 2008 1:27:46 PM
How about money from Rezko and Nadhimi Auchi and Iraqi born billionaire, that's why Obama could buy his mansion.
He is a liar!
Posted by: Handi | Apr 14, 2008 1:26:00 PM
Elitism? Dismissiveness?
" Those of us who have tried to have a career, tried to have an independent life, certainly somebody like myself...you know, I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas but what I decided to do was fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life."
-- Hillary Clinton, 1992, dismissing stay-at-home moms
Interesting, to say the least. I'm writing this from my livingroom, where I'm a stay-at-home dad. My wife with the Masters Degree is the successful breadwinner for our family. We share each others last names, and only resorted to marriage (rather than life partners) due to the discriminatory unbalanced legal rights it provides us.
My wife's a die-hard feminist the likes of which I've never met elsewhere. One of her many degrees is in Women's studies. Our daughter will be to, if we have any say in the matter.
In short, she's the poster-woman for the product of the feminist movement. She's also NOT voting for Hillary. Sure, she's an Obama supporter, but she'd rather not vote at all than vote for Hillary.
Why? Because she can. Because my wife beleives in the female empowerment that Hillary clearly only pretends to. Because she sees Hillary for what she is, an opportunist with no ethics or substance.
Maybe Hillary truly is Anti-trade, anti-war, pro-civil rights, etc. The problem is, it's equally possible that she's the polar opposite on every issue. We will never know. She has so many flip-flops, lies, and conflicts of interest that it's impossible to tell which way she truly leans.
The truth is, the Republicans will use this MOUNTAIN of baggage and lack of credibility to destroy her completely. Whatever Obama does wrong, he'd have to screw up and make divisive statements for the next twenty years to provide the Republicans with the kind of material THEY ALREADY HAVE on Clinton.
You can say he's untested, inexperienced, whatever (I disagree) but wouldn't you rather take a chance on maybe winning against McBush than nominate Hillary and guarantee defeat?
I don't beleive in voting just out of fear of losing, but if you must, then clearly picking the guaranteed loser is the wrong choice, no matter their gender, race, or baking prowess.
Posted by: fontapa | Apr 14, 2008 1:19:23 PM
Obama more than anyone else should never talk in any form about small town America, since Obama did nothing for small town Illinois or Iowa when Maytag closed their doors and shipped the jobs to Mexico!
I am sorry, Obama did give a speech to the workers and then went to see the Directors of Maytag, Lester and James Crown and Obama happily accepted money from them for his political gain and never brought up anything about the Maytag close-down!
Now he jokes about how mad small town Americans can become?
Senator Obama wake up and see, you have been exposed and it is going to now haunt you like the loss of those jobs you let move away due to Maytag while you basted in the money the Crown family gave you!
And a check of your national campaign finance commitee has one James Crown as a memeber of it, is Mr. Crown a replacement for your jailed former money man REZKO?
This isn't about Clinton, but about Obama, so to say a thing that is off track towards Clintons proves just how phoney the Obamabots really are in the so called campaign of change and being above the expectations!
Posted by: Clear Choice | Apr 14, 2008 1:18:27 PM
I'm bitter because you're bitter. You're bitter because Obama says you're bitter. You weren't bitter before you were bitter. It's only after you first became bitter that you're bitter.
So, put away your six-shooter and stop your anti-immigrant nonsense.
Posted by: S | Apr 14, 2008 1:18:24 PM
OK, Now I'm bitter. I'm bitter because every talking head I see and hear is trying to spin Obama's comments in his favor. And as usual, they proceed to criticize Hillary for not defending Obama. Please help me understand this. Same thing with the muslim question on 60 minutes. Hillary answered that question, "No", 3 times. That wasn't good enough. Rachel Maddow was still mad at her for not settling this issue for Obama. Help!
Posted by: cappamore | Apr 14, 2008 1:17:42 PM
"i guess you are admitting his remarks were a big mistake."
What I'm saying is that we are not losing our jobs and incomes because of Hillary's or Obama's remarks during some speech.
We are in this situation because the Clinton administration gaves us NAFTA, where Hillary lobbied for, and because Hillary is running her campaign had in hand with her husband and Mark Penn, some the greatest free trade lobbyists in America, who both defend foreign interests and stimulate the shipping of jobs from small town America. That is the big scandal of the Clinton campaign. They are the Judases of small town America!
Posted by: PA Woman | Apr 14, 2008 1:12:17 PM
Handi
Obama wasn't lying.
The only way corporations can donate is through PAC's. Obama doesn't accept PAC's. Those donations you're referring to are from individual donors that happen to work for corporations.
I hope that helps.
Posted by: AkaDad | Apr 14, 2008 1:12:15 PM
America, America...
It seems the PC Police is totally run by right wingers these days...
Obama, the NEW Straight Talk Express!
Posted by: kurt | Apr 14, 2008 1:02:42 PM
Elitism? Dismissiveness?
" Those of us who have tried to have a career, tried to have an independent life, certainly somebody like myself...you know, I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas but what I decided to do was fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life."
-- Hillary Clinton, 1992, dismissing stay-at-home moms
Posted by: PA Woman | Apr 14, 2008 12:58:29 PM
Obama had the temerity to speak the truth and Hillary's frantic spinnning will backfire on her. She's already made herself look ridiculous taking shots of whiskey and talking up her love of firearms.
Posted by: SpaceCat | Apr 14, 2008 12:51:38 PM
better check into who owns those newspapers before you get all happy.
newspapers,mag, tv, etc. are sometimes owned by the same outfit.
and if that is the case it could be they had to go with the company flow.
Posted by: jgaw@comcast.net | Apr 14, 2008 12:43:22 PM
McCain prefers Hillary, because they are friends. Not because of some evil plan. They are genuinely good friends.
Posted by: Joan | Apr 14, 2008 12:42:14 PM
They have to go crazy spinning this thing.
Does not look good.
Posted by: Joan | Apr 14, 2008 12:38:13 PM
mr. obama comments were an answer to a question about why the rural and sm town people were not getting him
and everyone know what his answer was.
What I am thinking about is-it just may not be that the people are bitter and cling to guns and god-(his way of putting the not getting him-off on them)
It could be they get him-and they are not buying it.
They have heard his message and they don't think he is the answer.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 14, 2008 12:36:13 PM
To Hudson
KEEP DREAMING because that is all Obama and you can do now!
Posted by: Steve Moore | Apr 14, 2008 12:34:49 PM
On DRUDGE now:
"McCain would prefer to go up against Clinton in the general election, insiders reveal."
LOL!
No wonder! He'd WIN THAT ONE!
Posted by: Greta | Apr 14, 2008 12:33:51 PM
When people vote Republican because of wedge issues, you're getting screwed economically because you get economic policies that favor the haves and have mores.
It's about time we have a politician like Obama who speaks the truth.
Posted by: AkaDad | Apr 14, 2008 12:25:59 PM
genna,
I had signed off, I am glad I can back to post one more comment-so I have read your comments to me.
Are you of the mind that all black people should think and vote alike?
If you want to know I consider my self a moderate.-"Moderation in all things"
is my motto.
I would love to and have tried to deal with mr. obama on the issues.
but it seems to me-it is mr. obama and his people who keep the race thing alive.
and when I say the attempt to silence people who support Sen.Clinton is a disgrace it is true.
I really am capable and do post on other sights-(but thank you for your suggestion, anyway)
I do not read your post regularly on here.
There is no conflict to me-I speak to what I see, hear and believe.
The main thread that runs through all of my comments is my lack of trust of Mr. obama, and feeling he is underqualified.-especially when next to Sen. Clinton. I do not have any real dislike of obama-(I do not know him)
and unlike the people who post such hateful things about Sen. Clinton (they do not know her either-it has just become sport-to bash Sen. Clinton)
I think he is misrepresenting himself
I don't think he is ready to be president
and I resent the fact that because of his underqualifications-he will be a hinderance to future people of color becoming president.
To your comment about going to other post-I do-but just like on here-the people are drunk with the obama kool-aid
Obama should have been vetted more.
I truly believe if most of the people black and white who have already cast their vote for him-had known then what they know now-he would not be in the lead.
and as for anything else
I am a citizen just like anybody else
and I do love the country I was born in
and I am upset and how bush got into office-and what has happened since.
and I see the same thing happening again.
and I don't want that to happen
I have considered the good and the bad to the best of my ability-and I have decided for Me-she is the best candidate to help our country heal the ills that it ails from
and that is all I want.
do I want a black president one day, sure
If I thought mr. obama were even just half as smart as Sen.Clinton-I would throw my vote to him-just to say-if he has a shot at it I will help him.
but he is not half as smart as hillary.
I have listened to both of them.
and I am a 53 year old black woman
and the only dog I have in this fight
is it is time for our country to get back on the right track.
Just as Sen. Clinton said before
and I believe she said it right-
"The world is holding it's breath, hoping we get it right this time"
I just want us to get it right this time
and for me-Sen. Hillary Clinton is the one.
(the emotion I feel-is not-I want a woman or a black man- I just want the most qualified one-Sen. Clinton.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 14, 2008 12:13:17 PM
What the Obama crowd has failed to recognize is the same mistake made by college students in their limited consideration of the world as a whole.
In short, the closed environment of the college campus may suggest that all one has to do is believe in change to make it a reality.
The truth lies in consideration of the real world and is not so simple as dorm life, morning classes, and cafeteria food.
In the general election, the reality of the electorate majority that will not be fooled by mantras and feel good politics dooms the Obama hype.
Posted by: Jayhawk | Apr 14, 2008 12:10:53 PM
genna,
I am very glad that jgaw posts here. Keep up the posts, jgaw. We need and appreciate your input.
Posted by: countallthevotes | Apr 14, 2008 12:08:26 PM
To hibbiejibbie
What the hell does MONEY Or PARTY have to do with this. You Obama supporters are unbelievable. When you know he is WRONG you attack others. I should not be surprised as this is exactly how Obama handles his mistakes to.(BY ATTACKING OTHERS)
Posted by: Steve Moore | Apr 14, 2008 12:06:30 PM
hibbiejibbie
Consider the source!
Posted by: Just curious | Apr 14, 2008 12:05:03 PM
All I can say is the true Obama is slowly seeping out and Amazon Traveler truly hits it on the nail....!
Ann Bush
Columbus, Ohio