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Obama's College Trip to Pakistan
April 08, 2008 8:27 AM
At a fundraiser in San Francisco, Ca., Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., claimed he had more world experience than his rivals, Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and introduced a new bit of biographical information.
"Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain," Obama said, according to the Huffington Post.
"It's ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be Commander-in-Chief. Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world. This I know. When Senator Clinton brags 'I've met leaders from eighty countries' -- I know what those trips are like! I've been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There's a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then -- you go."
"You do that in eighty countries," Obama said, "You don't know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
This last part -- a college trip to Pakistan -- was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn't hear about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign.
So I asked the Obama campaign for more information.
Apparently, according to the Obama campaign, In 1981 -- the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University -- Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there. The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.
- jpt
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We are here in Feb 2008,Obama has taken office and he has still not answered the questions about his Birth certificate,released any info academic or medical,It is still a mystery how he traveled to Pakistan in 81 without a US passport.He has hired 3 entire law firms to keep his past a secret.and funny enough it has been heard that he has associates that are trying to remove the clause in our constitution that limits the number of political terms a president can hold. This guy is part of something very unamerican,Im saying with even more conviction than ever,"this guy is bad for america.Obama could be very dangerous to the foundation of our nation" be wary america.
Posted by: J Dakker | Feb 4, 2009 5:48:39 PM
We are here in Feb 2008,Obama has taken office and he has still not answered the questions about his Birth certificate,released any info academic or medical,It is still a mystery how he traveled to Pakistan in 81 without a US passport.He has hired 3 entire law firms to keep his past a secret.and funny enough it has been heard that he has associates that are trying to remove the clause in our constitution that limits the number of political terms a president can hold. This guy is part of something very unamerican,Im saying with even more conviction than ever,"this guy is bad for america.Obama could be very dangerous to the foundation of our nation" be wary america.
Posted by: J Dakker | Feb 4, 2009 5:48:35 PM
Hey Peter Ramsey,
It doesn't matter that the State of Hawaii "says" there is a birth certificate. Until it is made public, then there will always be suspicion, because Obama has proven himself to be a liar on many other issues. You have to ask yourself, why won't he make the document public? Obviously, he is hiding something? What could it be? It is likely that Frank Marshall Davis is his real father and the whole Barack Obama Sr. exotic Africa connection story is all fabricated. If that came out before the election, he would NOT have won because it would have seriously called into question his credibility.
I will never trust him. He is a liar, pure and simple.
Posted by: Bob | Jan 27, 2009 6:35:24 PM
How could Obama be a "natural born" American citizen if he travelled to Pakistan under an Indonesian passport?
It doesn't make any sense.
1. Obama claims he was born in Hawaii but which hospital, who was the doctor, what time was he born?
2. If Obama was born in Kenya, he not a natural-born citizen.
3, If Obama became an Indonesian citizen, he is either an illegal immigrant or a "naturalized" U.S. citizen, neither of which are qualified to be president, under the U.S. Constitution.
Posted by: Peter Ramsey | Jan 20, 2009 3:20:43 PM
His birth certificate has ALREADY been released! The State of Hawaii confirms it as authentic. There is no issue here, hello! Move on!
Posted by: Do your homework! | Dec 18, 2008 9:04:05 PM
The one thing that I want to know is why he is refusing to turn over his birth certificate to the courts to prove that he was born in Hawaii? Why has he sealed all of his documents from college?
Posted by: Tom | Nov 28, 2008 10:04:27 PM
I'll throw a new one at all of you. He's not a Muslim extremist, nor did he take Rev Wright's views to heart. His affiliation with Trinity United was to establish left cover. I don't think the guy has any true allegiances or principles. I think he has an intelligence background. Pakistan was the hub of CIA activity against the Soviets and was a hotbed of drug running. This doesn't make him worse than most other presidents we've had, but it is strange how he kind of came out of nowhere to become the 'leader of the free world'.
Posted by: mugwump | Nov 18, 2008 1:41:54 AM
Folks, I am a Pakistani American, and in 1981, I was living in Pakistan. A lot of the comments here are questioning how did Obama get into Pakistan which was off limits.
Let me try and address this misconception. In 1981, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the USA were all very closely aligned and strong allies fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. Yes, from time to time, American citizens get recommendations from the State Department to either stay out of certain countries or to be careful visiting. BUT they are only recommendations.
On the Pakistani side, the Pakistani Government has NEVER turned back US citizens, Muslims or not. Even in this day, my wife, my 4 year old daughter and myself travel to Pakistan every Christmas so that our daughter can unite briefly with grandparents.
Now, whether Obama misled people about his trip or not, is a separate question.
Hope that clears it up.
Thanks,
Nadir
Posted by: Nadir | Nov 8, 2008 11:54:38 AM
First off I am glad to have seen the day when a African-American has been elected President of the United States. However, I am dismayed with the choice. Whether he is a Muslim or Christian I couldn't care less. His honesty is what I cannot accept. He has consistantly misled if not out and out lied about his past. How does a US citizen?? travel to an area in the world in 1981 when is is offlimits (Fact). He was partially raised in Indonesia as a Muslim (Fact). Why is he so reluctant to provide information on his past, as a military member with a security clearance, I was put through the ringer. He won't even allow his transcripts from College or medical records to be released. Privacy in the pucblic is very limited, especially if you are to be the POTUS, sorry for those who don't agree.
Posted by: will wait | Nov 6, 2008 4:07:34 PM
Barack seems to me a very smart polititian. I wonder is it enough to became an US President? How can such a person using simple populism without any experience on a leading function reach such a position. Is US so stupid? Is it a syndrom after 9.11 that a muslim should win?
Posted by: Mike Kowalik | Nov 3, 2008 12:59:34 PM
What's strange is that Obama's own website FightTheSmears doesn't refute the widespread allegation that he entered Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
I honestly think he's an intelligent man with great leadership abilities, but after learning about the lies in his memoirs and how he withholds basic information about his life, I just can't trust him.
Posted by: MindMadeUp | Oct 27, 2008 12:48:35 PM
Yeah...how DID he get into Pakistan on a US passport back then?
Wasn't that a STATE DEPARTMENT NO GO at the time?
Why isn't anyone asking these questions?
I guess the media is asleep at the switch.
Posted by: Whassamatta Jake | Oct 26, 2008 6:45:55 AM
As far as Im concerned..anyone on here mentioning racism or racist...its plain to see you are the ones who are racist and cant get over the fact that a black man is running for president. So stop writing all the bs about him being friends w/ terrorists and rasist churches...I think your confused and writing about yourself. You all should be ashamed of yourselves..you are the reason our economy is down and the war still goes on..you voted for Bush agian and now your going to vote for another evil greedy oil crook just because hes not black. I wish people like you couldnt vote.....its a shame that we all have to suffer because of a fews ignorance.....I didnt realize how many stupid people are able to vote..
Posted by: Grenadine | Oct 24, 2008 7:54:51 AM
How did he get into Pakistan on a U.S. Passport in 1981?
Posted by: hmm | Oct 24, 2008 12:15:03 AM
I find this trip to Pakistan by Obama to be much more interesting than his place of birth. It is very unlikely that Pakistan would have allowed entry to anyone traveling on an American passport during those tumultuous times. If Obama had instead entered Pakistan on a, say, Indonesian passport as an Indonesian citizen his American citizenship would have been forfeited. I would sure like to get a look at Obama's U.S. passport records...
Posted by: Rep U. Blican | Oct 19, 2008 1:55:52 PM
What a shame Obama claims he wants to fix this country. Sure it needs help, but not from the likes of a guy who supports a racist church, has too many questionable ties to terrorist countries, ties to questionable people, who gives ACORN 800,000 to recruit democrats who don't even exist. It's just too easy to cover tracks. America needs to wake up and choose the lesser of the 2 evils. Time to vote seedy, anti-american political people out of Washington. Why isn't this all being explored?? Good question. I suppose Obama would cry racism! Well I think we could throw it right back at him! Better do it sooner than later! In the mean time, dig deep and get yourself informed! I did and I will no longer be voting for Obama.
Posted by: Dig in deep, America | Oct 13, 2008 2:37:32 PM
Obama in '08 is the only choice to make now that 72 year old McCain has chosen his running mate.
Posted by: JH | Oct 12, 2008 2:10:25 PM
First, it is not a college trip. It is his personal visit to Pakistan.
He stayed there for 3 weeks when it was under turmoil.
Nothing less a education in one of the religious schools is a reason to stay for 3 weeks in that country.
Why saudis go there. It is for the religious education and training.
Muslims from West who had an inclination on the extreme religion visited there other than relatives.
Posted by: sel | Sep 10, 2008 4:09:06 PM
In summary
He panders to any group which is the Majority.
1. the trip was not mentioned in his book
2. Pandered to the latin voters that Spanish ought to be a language we all should learn..
3. alignmnent with racists and terrorists
Posted by: sonia | Jul 12, 2008 8:41:22 PM
It all sounds very innocent, "a college trip to Pakistan".
Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).
Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.
The would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:
To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every "True Believer".
For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.
In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace.
Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981.
Posted by: Rob | May 3, 2008 2:13:43 AM
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