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On Chelsea, Monica, and the Scandal That Dare Not Speak Its Name
April 01, 2008 10:30 AM
At N.C. State yesterday, Chelsea Clinton was again asked by a student about her father's conduct as president, i.e., l'affair Lewinsky.
The question came on the heels of a question asked Chelsea last week by Evan Strange, a student at Butler University, as to whether her mother lost credibility by initially blaming the controversy on a "vast right-wing conspiracy."
Chelsea curtly told Strange that it was none of his business.
Strange, a self-described Clinton supporter, insists he was not trying to cause trouble. (Watch him explain himself HERE) He supports Clinton and his friends always ask him about the scandal, he said.
This week, Chelsea, speaking at the Talley Student Center, was asked by freshman Bryce Davis about her response to Strange.
"It's none of your business," Chelsea said. "I'm sure there are things in your family that you don't think are anyone's business either."
Davis started to walk out, and Chelsea told him she didn't think anyone should vote for or against her mother because of her father.
"I'm not leaving because of that," Davis said. "I have a class."
Watch the exchange HERE.
In the N.C. State student newspaper, Davis explained himself further.
Chelsea's "father, at the time, was the president of the United States, and one of his primary duties as President was to be chief citizen," Davis said. "[By acting as] chief citizen, he should be a model citizen for the United States….I was not trying to embarrass Chelsea Clinton in front of my peers and I felt that when I left the meeting after my question, people felt that I was storming out of the building. In reality, I had a 12:30 p.m. class that I was five minutes late to."
Certainly there are more polite questions to ask someone than about when her father cheated on her mother.
That said, the Clinton campaign is trying to have it both ways -- using Chelsea as a spokeswoman, a surrogate, to advance Sen. Hillary Clinton's candidacy, but not subjecting her to the rigors other spokespeople -- including Cate Edwards, Meghan McCain, and the Romney boys -- have agreed to go through.
Chelsea's rule is that she doesn't take questions from the media, but she takes them from "real people."
Now she's deciding she's not going to answer some of the real people's questions, too.
If only questions about her father's extra-curricular activities were just a personal "none of your business" type deal.
They're not.
They tend to become huge scandals that distract from the more important work a president should be doing.
Clinton defenders say that's only because we live in a world with a vast right-wing media apparatus and a compliant, bottom-feeding media. Even if you buy that notion, this is the world we live in. Given that, it's nothing short of astonishing that we've made it this far in the campaign with few serious questions to Sen. Clinton about the impeachment of her husband.
Obviously, Sen. Obama won't touch it with a ten-foot pole. I'm not sure the Republicans will be that chivalrous.
When a senior adviser to Obama in Iowa raised the specter of Monica's stained GAP dress last week, the Clinton campaign pounced, pointing out the hypocrisy of Obama's supposedly clean-campaign invoking such a personal attack. Obama denounced the comment, the Iowa adviser took it back.
Fair enough. But I don't think it's unfair to ask the Clinton campaign if they can assure the American people that nothing like impeachment -- nothing that a normal family would be able to shrug off with "none of your business" -- will happen again.
Maybe Chelsea will never have to come up with a better answer than "None of your business." But I don’t know that her parents will be able to use that. Unfortunately, it became all of our business in graphically-footnoted detail.
The only time I've seen this question asked of Sen. Clinton was during the Politico/WJLA interview of Clinton two months ago.
A reader asked: "How could we be sure that some new business or personal scandal involving Bill Clinton won't erupt which the Republicans will use to blow your agenda and your administration right out of the water?"
Clinton's response: "Well, you know, I just can assure this reader that that is not going to happen. You know, none of us can predict the future, no matter who we are and what we're running for, but I'm very confident that that will not happen."
"None of us can predict the future"??
- jpt
April 1, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (96)
There are people in the world that the marriage bow is sacred to them. For better or worst... till death do us part. Remember those words?
Remember Bill Clinton did not abandoned you. We had surplus and economy was good. He was a good President.
Posted by: adela | May 24, 2008 8:52:17 PM
No one asked her about her mothers personal response to Monica. They asked questions about her mothers statements to the media about the incident. I think it is a very fair question and when Chelsea campaigns for her mother she should be prepared to answer questions that directly relate to her mothers credibility.
By the way I will probably vote for Hillary in the up coming Indiana primary. I don't think she should answer to make her look bad I feel that not answering looks bad
Posted by: Heather | Apr 9, 2008 5:22:08 PM
Why is it that HIllary is being held accountable for what her husband has done?
Should we hold you accountable for the actions of your husband, wife, or the person with whom you chose to spend your life?
Basically, that is what is going on here! You aren't holding her HER ACTIONS, but the actions of others.
Chelsea maybe an adult. but that doesn't mean you or anyone else has the right to keeping push a dead horse. Else of course your uncouth.
It is done so, by the person's with tabloid mentalities, small minds, and lack of thought.
Posted by: Frank Storm | Apr 3, 2008 8:14:29 AM
Since Clinton supporters are suddenly appearing on Fox and others who were part of the vast right wing conspiracy I think the initial question to Chelsea takes on more relevance. If the Clinton family was so harmed by right wing pundits, whey are they now courting them? Is it worth winning to have to ask for the support of people who caused so much alleged pain? Has Hillary Clinton ever admitted she was wrong in believeing her husband and appearing to join in his initial lies about the affairs? These are all questions which go to leadership ability and have nothing to do with the details of the affairs.
Posted by: Auntie Cairo | Apr 2, 2008 4:01:51 PM
All I can say is if Hillary is nominated the Clintons will need to get used to it. Republicans are itching to bring up Monica and the impeachment. Is it a legitimate question. No. But, the reality is it will be asked again, again, and again.
Posted by: Indy_Voter | Apr 2, 2008 10:29:29 AM
Chelsea said that she thinks that her mother would be a better President than Bill..Why. Everyone loves Bill and Moms negative rating go off the scale. Does this Chelsea opinion go to Monica, Gennifer, Paula, et al, and the fallout. In otherwords, the very issue she says is none of our business. Does her opinion have to do with the fact that Bill's lies were under oath and therefore perjury, which led to impeachment, both of which are our business. Or maybe she does understand that the White House is owned by the people, and anything that goes on in the building is our business, except maybe in the Presidents living quarters.
Or is this just typical Clinton family campaign tactics. With Bill also implying that Hillary would be better. Can anyone familiar with the Bill Clinton ego imagine him believing that anyone in the world has been or would be a better President than him. Sounds more like say-do-anything to win. And bring the kid in to help.
Regarding her response to a student asking abour Monica, the Chelsea answer was too glib and quick, so obviously the campaign had prepared it well in advance.
Second, the question was regarding her mothers credibility, and not about the affair. So the response was not responsive Probably because Chelsea had been waiting for the issue to arise and could not wait to give her canned response. But Hillary does seem to feel that her credibility is none of the voters business.
I would be interested in knowing Chelsea's recollections of Bosnia, and why she did not correct Hillarys memory during the two weeks before the news clip surfaced. And what role the Hedge Fund that she works for played in the sub-prime morgage mess that Hillary now wants to spend billions of taxpayer money to clean up.
As it is, it all reflects on Chelsea's judgment in thinking that her mother would be a better President. (assuming that she actually believes that, or has the knowledge to have an informed opinion). It seems to me that if Hillary and Bill want to use their 28 year old daughter to get votes, being life-long politicians in the midst of a dirty campaign that they helpd create, they all know Chelsea will eventually face some difficulty and have chosen to put her in the arena. I would be a little more sympathetic if she were younger, or the Clinton campaign were a little cleaner.
Remember the incident when she said "I don't talk to reporters and unfortunately, that includes you." This to a 15 year old student. Talk about parental control. Maybe she should distance herself from her parents and reject their statements...after listening to them for 28 years, she must know what they stand for.
Posted by: Patrick | Apr 2, 2008 8:07:25 AM
While I think they should leave poor little Chelsea alone, I also think they should leave Michelle Obama and doubts about her patriotism alone. Michelle Obama is the only candidate's spouse who has not committed a crime. Bill Clinton lied under oath. Cindy McCain was a drug addict who stole from her own charity. Either we have guilt by association or we don't. If it's fair game to attack Obama based on what his wife or his pastor says, then it is fair game to attack Hillary based on what her husband did and how he lied under oath and how he was impeached. At the same time, punishing poor Chelsea for her father's humiliating behavior is sadistic and cruel. However, given Bill Clinton's behavior, both he and Hillary and Clinton are also cruel to put their daughter in this horrible position. Everybody is guilty here except little Chelsea.
Posted by: Di | Apr 2, 2008 4:07:06 AM
as i recall, this is a free country. that means anyone can ask anyone any question, and anyone can decline to answer any question.
1. bill clinton was IMPEACHED and DISBARRED, and hillary was very nearly ruined because of his numerous affairs. the scandal brought out questions of personal integrity and honesty and ethical conduct when holding high office. the only reason hillary was not ruined was because she suddenly developed selective amnesia.
its amazing how a politician who did all this is now running for president.
2. the rev wright tapes were recorded 5 years ago. if you can bring up recordings of what a pastor said 5 years ago, for which he was and has been neither indicted nor arrested nor impeached nor any other type of castigation except by the media, why not bring up bill clintons white house scandals for which he WAS IMPEACHED and DISBARRED. obama isnt married to rev wright. rev wright wont be sleeping in the white house every day for the next four to eight years with little or nothing to do. bill clinton had AFFAIRS in plural. it wasnt a momentary lapse of judgement, it was his modus operandi. i do not hold any right to judge hillary on her decision to stay with bill, but i ca judge their actions including lying, perjury, victimizing the women who accused bill...lets leave that there.
3. chelsea is not a child. she may not like it, it may not be fair, but it is a valid question to ask. when your dad, the former president was impeached and disbarred, how does that affect your mothers candidacy now that she is running for president?
perfectly legit question, to which she can say she sees no correllation and would rather not discuss the issue as it is very personal to her.
sweet and succint...the clintons are not.
Posted by: elle eda | Apr 2, 2008 1:52:55 AM
People's personal pecadillos are that until they run for public office. Obviously the office of President of the United States is a subject of intense observation for many reasons.
I have a hard time seeing Hillary as standing up for women by her continuing to stay with a man who has had serial affairs subjecting her and her daughter to such prying and offensive remarks.
Why should we believe he won't do it again and why should we have to be subjected to the trash media stories that would follow.
We would be fools to forget there are a whole lot of voters who will explain that as one of Hillary's negatives and why they will be sure to vote against her. It's not fair but Hillary would have done better if she had divorced Bill.
Posted by: vmcgreen | Apr 2, 2008 1:24:08 AM
Chelsea should answering question about her father's behavior. Look, she been living off campaign donations while campaign for her mother. Hillary can't pay her creditors. But I guess that Hillary version of affirmative action.
Posted by: water57 | Apr 1, 2008 10:58:35 PM
Chelsea Clinton cannot possibly add anything to the Lewinski crap that people still want to bring up and obsess over. Its complete stupidity, or trouble making, to ask her such questions. Have you no decency at all people? Go watch soap operas. Seems to be your level.
Posted by: Jammer | Apr 1, 2008 10:41:20 PM
@COUNT THE MI & FL VOTES & SEAT THEIR DELEGATES
"What level have people stooped to in this country?"
You should have asked President of the United States Bill Clinton during his cigar games with a young intern in the Oval Office, while the First Lady was two rooms away as her schedules show.
Posted by: Nicholson | Apr 1, 2008 10:21:16 PM
Why must we live in a society where the public's right to know is considered enough of a reason to forget all standards of decency and civility? There are just some subjects a child, adult or otherwise, should not be asked about a parent's behavior. Just because a person is in the public spotlight does not mean they have to answer every invasive question asked of them. I regret that more of us are not outraged by this behavior. We have really become an insensitive society. Everyone else's troubles are salvated over. Not the kind of people I'd want around my family.
Posted by: Susannnah | Apr 1, 2008 10:17:14 PM
SHAME on Billy J for being the scoundrel that he is.
SHAME on Hillary for being a willing partner.
SHAME on Chelsea for not staying out of the limelight in this campaign.
She's fair game and apparently raw meat given her incredibly lame responses to the Monica question.
Posted by: cactuscoot | Apr 1, 2008 9:08:15 PM
Posted by: Kathy | Apr 1, 2008 2:20:17 PM,
You think it's a fair question to ask Chelsea? Ok... it would be fine with you if someone questioned your kid about your husband cheating on you?
OMG!
Posted by: Dana | Apr 1, 2008 7:27:56 PM
Rs
She survived it to become President.
It wasnt his first outside fling and gaurentee you it wasnt his last. She enabled him .Then was 1 of his staunch defenders. The vast right wing.
If Chelsea want to stump like a grown up then answer Questions like a grown up. I can not believe after the first question Hill did not pull her from the lime light..She needs to think of her daughter instead of winning.
Posted by: Lauepow | Apr 1, 2008 6:21:40 PM
Independant in Texas
You just spoke for thousands of Americans. your reasoning is what many have said and felt.
Obama08
Posted by: Lauepow | Apr 1, 2008 6:17:13 PM
It's interesting that some of Hillary's harshest criticism that she stayed with her husband even though he cheated and lied about it comes from other women. Hillary did go on Tyra and she addressed the issue then (apparently Oprah was and is not available). There are many women who have walked in Hillary's shoes, and they have to make choices that relate to their children and how they are going to survive financially. It's just not that easy to leave a husband, and it's just not that easy to get a divorce in many states! And it's possible that Hillary and Bill really love each other and they love Chelsea. If anything can be said, they have raised a wonderful young woman. Hillary did not stand by Bill's side when he finally admitted he lied - big difference from all the other political spouses in the news lately. But if that is where this race is going, because the Obamanations have nowhere else to go but down below the scum sucking pond scum, so be it, Hillary has survived it all before.
Posted by: rs | Apr 1, 2008 2:49:30 PM
I think it a very fair question and I personally would like to see Hillary address it once and for all - do not leave it to your daughter to defend you or your husband for your poor choices. I as a woman am deeply offended that Hillary made the choice to stand by her man regardless of the deep personal shame it brought to her, her daughter and our country. The shame lies in not the affair really but in the lies that came after and the continued behavior of the Clintons to ignore the situation or to claimit it is republican driven..please. It only proves to me that she stayed with Bill and refuses to answer the question for political gain. Just as she moved to New York State to gain quick entry into the Senate.
Posted by: Kathy | Apr 1, 2008 2:20:17 PM
Chelsea has the freedom to appear where she pleases, just as any other person does, and to answer any question she pleases, just as any other person does.
However, in my opinion, Bill's behavior has no affect on his wife's credibility, and the way she conducted herself when all of this came out was very admirable.
Posted by: JuJu | Apr 1, 2008 2:10:50 PM
I don't recall the Kerry girls being asked about their parents divorce. I don't recall the Bush girls being ask about their fathers many failings. I guess it's just fair game to go after any Clinton. The leftwing democrats will look back with regret on the way the Clinton's were treated.
Posted by: Tina D | Apr 1, 2008 2:08:54 PM
@ Glenn
If old recycled stories can help you win the White House.
Republicans are praying Obama is the nominee.
Posted by: John | Apr 1, 2008 2:04:45 PM
Bill Clinton sex scandal had disgrace the White House.This will hunt Hillary all the way to the White House.She was in the White House when the cheating was going on.She knew Bill had been cheating on her.There was claims that Bill had many black mistresses,plus a claims he had a black baby name Danny William back in 1986.The Republicans will use this agenda to blow this right out of the water.
Posted by: Glenn | Apr 1, 2008 1:59:26 PM
Chelsea should work with the Clinton campaign to come up with a good answer to this question. It isn't going away. There will always be people who think it is a "fair" question.
That being said, I'd like to remind all of the posters who have said that Rev. Wright's actions shouldn't be a reason to have issue with Obama, should apply the same reasoning here. We're assessing the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, not Bill.
If Hillary's decision to stay with Bill is a reflection of her character, than Obama's decision to stay with Trinity and support Rev. Wright is a reflection of his character.
You can't have it both ways.
Posted by: sherr | Apr 1, 2008 1:47:29 PM
I think being associated with a church that legitimizes a terrorist organization (hamas) is worse than an affair. was anyone really hurt in the affair? no. does hamas kill innocent people? yes.
Posted by: John | Apr 1, 2008 1:44:27 PM
Let's get real! How was that rude young man's question helpful to any of us making a choice? Was Hillary to be blamed because her husband said he didn't have an affair and she chose to trust him? Is not a wife supposed to trust her husband until proven otherwise?This boy obviously believes in the hang the victim club! Any boy who would ask a young woman about her father's infidelity is no gentleman! If he were my son he would have to answer to me for that disgusting display
Posted by: ellen | Apr 1, 2008 1:43:31 PM
@SteveC:
You are reading too much into my comment. I am not comparing President Clinton and Reverend Wright. I am merely saying that guilt-by-association politics is a bad idea because the opponents of your views will always find another of your associates who is a 'bad apple'.
I am not sitting in judgment of President Clinton or Reverend Wright. I do not know either man. I think President Clinton on the whole is a good man and I also assume that if Reverend Wright was the satan projected by all of these comments that we would have heard of him long ago. I do not defend his sound bites as they are disgusting, but imagine if someone boiled your life down to a few sound bites (not of your choosing). I would hope that there were plenty of people willing to say you are an upright guy in spite of those things. Again, I don't defend his comments or Senator Obama's association with him. But I take Senator Obama at his word just like I took President Clinton at his word. I hope Senator Obama does not disappoint me.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 1:34:11 PM
There is no reason to ask Chelsea Clinton about her father - go ask Bill Clinton himself at one of his events! We have had much evidence in the media lately that male politicians have a hard time keeping their pants zipped around women (and men) who are not their spouse. Please provide evidence that Hillary suffers from the same affliction as the men, otherwise it seems that we have the best argument yet to put a woman in the White House. Is Michelle going to start answering questions about her husbands' drug use and past sexual behavior or is that off limits because Wafflebama is The One!
Posted by: rs | Apr 1, 2008 1:33:48 PM
@ Emmanuel Winner
I've never heard these cowards ask Bill or Hillary about the Monica affair.
Posted by: John | Apr 1, 2008 1:29:36 PM
Some people will focus on the great things JFK did during his Presidency, others want to know about his affair with Marilyn Monroe.
Same thing here.
Posted by: John | Apr 1, 2008 1:26:15 PM
Chelsea is a surrogate. She needs to deal with the same issues all other surrogates do. The Lewinsky scandal does raise problems concerning character and electability. Yes, she needs to address the issue, any surrogate does.
Posted by: Emmanuel Winner | Apr 1, 2008 1:25:38 PM
We voters have the right to remind the world about Monica as long as Bill Clinton stays in politics. We care about the judgment, character and honesty of our President and he was lacking all of it.
Bill Clinton stared right into the camera saying he did not have "sexual relations with that woman". We knew he was lying and the blue dress is the ONLY reason he finally admitted to his lie. The reason I choose to remember it is I don't like to be lied to and I don't ever forget it.
If Clinton had just admitted his affair with Monica, it probably would not have been such a big deal in the end. He would not have perjured himself and would not have been impeached. BUT he chose to lie. His track record all along showed a compelling argument for him being a womanizer and he chose to lie to all of America under oath. Hillary defended him with the right wing conspiracy theory. So, yes I think questions pertaining to that sorted scandal are the public's business. Bill Clinton made them public business.
Hillary has been caught in numerous lies recently. Her platform of an implied co-presidency was false proven by her first lady calendars, her Bosnia sniper fire story a lie proven by video, freedom treaties in Ireland debunked, and last but certainly not least NAFTA where again her calendar and video showed she did support it. The story of Hillary (not Obama) saying one thing in the debate about NAFTA and telling the Canadian government not to worry was upheld by the Canadian government for goodness sake. Again, I personally don't like to be lied to and I will not forget it.
I support Obama in this election. I can tell you with abolute certainty who I will NEVER vote for.
Before all you Hillary fanatics jump all over me, let me say these are my thoughts and I can express them freely on this blog. Post your thoughts and I will read them. But do not keep attacking fellow bloggers with your fanatic rants. I believe you have no way to defend your candidate given the current state of her campaign so you choose to personally attack the other bloggers. We would be better served to simply state our thoughts and discuss our views on the candidates and issues but not each other.
Posted by: Independent in Texas | Apr 1, 2008 1:24:24 PM
Some people will focus on the great things JFK did during his Presidency, others want to know about his affair with Marilyn Monroe.
Same thing here.
Posted by: John | Apr 1, 2008 1:21:32 PM
@hopespring52:
Agreed that it is a bad question and she should not address the infidelity. But the question will be continued to be asked and refined until it comes out "Please comment on President Clinton's impeachment and the events that led to it." The 'none of your business' retort just won't work. I really think she needs to get ahead of the issue and stop the question before it gets asked ad nauseum.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 1:17:00 PM
I'm tired of reading all this BS that the Clinton's feel entitled to the Presidency.
HELLO?
THE SUPER DELEGATES have said they are going give it to Obama not to offend the African American community.
Just because you're a women, a Clinton, African American, or biracial does not make you entitled to the Presidency.
The superdelegates need to pick the candidate who can beat John McCain and who will deliver on his/her promises!
Posted by: John | Apr 1, 2008 1:13:50 PM
Correction, of course, Chelsea's father was caught cheating on her mother.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | Apr 1, 2008 1:10:30 PM
Note to the student who asked the question: he's looking for a "model citizen" to be president. What is a model citizen? And if you're looking for a perfect person to be president you ain't never going to find it. Btw, none of our greatest leaders were perfect. Secondly, candidates choose all the time what they will and won't answer. Bush was asked about cocaine use. He told us he didn't want to talk about it -- he made alot of mistakes before he was 40.
Hillary's father was caught cheating on her mother, she should be excused for not wanting to talk about it, don't you think?
Posted by: hopesprings52 | Apr 1, 2008 1:08:35 PM
@John:
You're right and there is nothing wrong with saying his middle name. Hussein is not a bad word. But there is a problem when people say it to imply he is un-American just because the name is not Anglo. Especially because when it is done in that way, it is basically telling Arab Americans (or anyone with a 'different-sounding' name) that they are not "real" Americans.
I wish Obama would just say "My name is Barack Hussein Obama, and what is your point?"
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 1:07:22 PM
Chelsea is no longer a child. Her father's behavior and impeachment had the entire world turned in to watch. Ken Star, and everyone else involved wasted our time (to include the former Presidenet) over a piece of (you fill in the blank). And the entire time we watched the trail of a former President, our enemy Bin Laden was plotting a hit on the WTC. The entire time Bin Laden was hitting our war ships at port, and embassys in other country's, and we were hooked to the TV, on the lastest lie told, and who was going to pay for it. These questions should be asked. It is not a family personal thing, when it took tax payers money to fund the investigation, and impeachment action. If we elect HRC, we might as well just give McCain (who doesn't deserve it), the White House before November. The Clinton's are an easy win for the Republicans, they already know how to bet them.
The younger Americans are asking the right questions, and God Bless them for doing it. We didn't. We were satified with false peace (we're paying for over and over again in blood) and prosperity. What's your stock worth today, your home? Did we spend our prospertiy on a WAR! The former Clinton Adminstration was good, it left the party unable to reelect another Dem President following all those glory days, because Bill had no self control. 21st Century American doesn't need anyone with the last name Clinton as Chief Citizen again, and we don't owe them anything.
Posted by: WeThePeople | Apr 1, 2008 1:06:27 PM
If you can't say Obama's middlename or Barack H. Obama then you definitely can't ask about Monica.
Posted by: John | Apr 1, 2008 1:01:46 PM
The politics of guilt-by-association will eventually prevent any good person from aspiring for the Presidency. In Senator Clinton's case, it is President Clinton. For Senator Obama, it is Reverend Wright. Folks, we all have people in our lives that we would not want to be held accountable for their words and/or actions. My suggestion is to listen to the candidates and realize that it is inevitable that they will have associates who do and say wrong things.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 1:00:27 PM
Barack Obama had hoped the retirement of his fire-breathing pastor would put the controversy to rest. But the Rev. Jeremiah Wright is retiring in luxury----with all the trappings of the white "middleclassness" he wrans his flock to avoid.
Wright is forsacking South Side Chicago and the black ghetto for a gated golf club community in Tinely Park, an affluent suburb. This community boasts some of Tinley Park's largest homes. Rev.Wrights home being over $1,000,000.00.
After decades of lecturing blacks to remain loyal to the black ghetto and eschew the white suburbs, he's now building a 10,340-square-foot mansion in the white suburbs. Among his amenities: an elevator, a rubberized exercise room and room for a future theatre and indoor swimming pool.
Shouting "G** Damn AMerica" for its treatment of blacks. Wright got his parishioners hooked on misplaced anger in the South Side so he could cash out in Tinely Park.
Wright must have really invested well, eh?? I wonder how much of that was government fundings of his "community-based" collections of tax dollars through the years......
His spiritual student, Barry Obama, seems to have a similar ride= gooing a LONG way on his community activist and legislator salaries......
Posted by: mary | Apr 1, 2008 12:56:18 PM
Personally I would like to put this era of politics behind us, just as we did with Watergate. Having said that, If Chelsea continues to stump for her mom she is unfortunately fair game. The questions have been about the substance and affect of the instance on HRC's campaign and not about personal feelings.
Posted by: Lou - Londonderry, NH | Apr 1, 2008 12:55:41 PM
Personally I would like to put this era of politics behind us, just as we did with Watergate. Having said that, If Chelsea continues to stump for her mom she is unfortunately fair game. The questions have been about the substance and affect of the instance on HRC's campaign and not about personal feelings.
Posted by: Lou - Londonderry, NH | Apr 1, 2008 12:54:51 PM
I don't think the are Obamas plants if anyones they are the Clinton's Like the one in New Hampshire that she teared up over.What an act she is so good at it.....She is something else this one and will do ANYTHING ANYTHING to get on the White House.Standing by her man was if she got nailed for the Whit Water land deal he and only Billy Boy could pardon her.She is not stupid and you can bet your butt he has paid for this deal over and over again.Has he been a clean boy sence not on your life....
Posted by: h | Apr 1, 2008 12:49:05 PM
@vinnie:
On what particular issue do Clinton and Obama disagree significantly? Branding Obama as liberal is branding Clinton the same. In fact, her healthcare proposition is more liberal than Obamas. But that doesn't mean anything unless you think "liberal" is spelled with four letters.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 12:48:39 PM
we live in a world with a vast right-wing media apparatus and a compliant, bottom-feeding media.
Posted by: Dan S | Apr 1, 2008 12:48:28 PM
Also interesting to me that both of the people asking the question were men... reminds me of the Iron My Shirt incident in New Hampshire, which also turned out to be a plus for Hillary.
I'm probably falling into the trap of assuming that all of this is carefully scripted... but it is curious to me that college-student age men are asking these questions. They were pretty young during the impeachment proceedings -- do they even remember this? Why the sudden interest in Monica?
Posted by: Trillium | Apr 1, 2008 12:47:18 PM
@JennaC:
Reverend Wright was already at the White House forgiving President Clinton at a prayer breakfast for this whole crazy issue. There are no devils here, everyone is human and you are on the same side as those you say you are against!
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 12:46:23 PM
@seah:
I am not disagreeing with you about the question, but it is not possible to ignore the whole impeachment of President Clinton. That his infidelity led to lying that mushroomed into that fiasco is tragic. I'm not sure that it is relevant to Senator Clinton's campaign: can't Chelsea just say "It's not relevant to this campaign, you should be ashamed of yourself" or anything besides "none of your business"? I'm not interested in shaming her or them, just putting this issue to rest. Generally, the American public responds well to those who exorcise their demons.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 12:43:44 PM
Chelsea Clinton will need to come up with a better response than "none of your business" whenever she's asked about the Monica Lewinsky scandal, because now that she's out in the public eye and on the campaign trail for her mother, there's good probability she'll be asked about it again, and more than one more time. "It's irrelevant and I respectfully decline to discuss it" is a more mature and tactful response. Unfortunately the Lewinsky scandal became a lot of people's business in the '90s (anyone ever heard of a guy named Ken Starr?). The question from these college students, who I'm sure were 10 years old or under when the scandal broke, are simply probing for more information, even though their question may be inappropriate.
Posted by: em | Apr 1, 2008 12:42:15 PM
A vote for Obama is a vote for the racist Rev. Wright.
How do you like to see Rev. Wright at the White House sleeping in the Lincoln Room?
I did not think so? Even you Obama supporters are smarter than that.
Posted by: JennaC | Apr 1, 2008 12:40:16 PM
So Obama supporters would agree that people should start asking him about Larry Sinclair and Donald Young.
Posted by: JennaC | Apr 1, 2008 12:38:38 PM
It's a distasteful question.
But hey, cat's out of the bag. You put Chelsea out there at universities, and she will be asked this question over and over again -- until, and perhaps even after -- she gives an answer.
The answer is unimportant. The issue is that this is a tremendous distraction for Chelsea Clinton and Senator Clinton, just as it was for President Clinton in '98.
Posted by: Phil | Apr 1, 2008 12:36:41 PM
Who benefits from bringing up Monica? In the past, Hillary has, because it evoked sympathy. The problem is, the spouse of a Senator is not a public figure the way the spouse of a President is. The Monica episode does not reflect well on Bill.
So it seems to me that Clinton supportors who evoke Monica are not actually doing Hillary a favor... unless this has been timed to crowd some other story out of the way? Perhaps I'm being cynical but we know that Clinton has planted questions in the audience before (in New Hampshire I believe, sorry, not going to take the time to track down the link).
Posted by: Trillium | Apr 1, 2008 12:35:54 PM
No child should have to answer Questions about thier parents sexual life.
Asking that Question is so wrong on so many levels.
Chelsea was right to comment it was none of their buisness of her thoughts of the issue.
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Then Obama should never be allowed to enter into the presidency. His liea are many, to The american people, in the public eye, All can be document through the media. Down right blantent lies about his friends, his family and his past and more.
Obama is unfit to be the president for those reasons and many many more reasons.
A vote for America is a Vote against Obama.
Posted by: seah | Apr 1, 2008 12:35:22 PM
By the way, everybody, it is really getting time to stop the squabbling among Clinton and Obama supporters. Let things play out and someone will win. If you don't think you like what is being written by Clinton or Obama supporters, just take a look at some of the nonsense propagated by McCain supporters. We ultimately are Americans and all on the same side, but as I read the comments on the issues among Clinton/Obama supporters there is a vast difference between them and McCain supporters.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 12:29:18 PM
"Ever notice how "Republican" ends in "i can", and how "Democrate" ends in "rat"!!!!!
Posted by: norm | Apr 1, 2008 12:27:43 PM
So Obama supporters would agree that people should start asking him about Larry Sinclair and Donald Young.
Posted by: geevill | Apr 1, 2008 12:27:06 PM
@WCM:
I agree with your compassion and that the question is silly to ask of her. But her retort is that of a schoolgirl and not a 27-year-old woman and it is wrong. I wish she just defused the comment and shamed the asker by actually acknowledging history and then moving forward. Whether the Clintons like it or not, this issue may be unrelenting in the fall if they get the nomination. But it is the past and Senator Clinton is not President Clinton. I think we agree that it is not relevant and I wish that by addressing it we could move on.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 12:24:55 PM
I think the media is beginning to gang up on Chelsea and it's unfair. Just because she's promoting her MOTHER for president doesn't mean she should be forced to answer questions about her FATHER'S affair--let alone how that affects her mother's candidacy. That's not an appropriate question to ask of a woman who was only a teenager when the scandal broke. It may be a fair question to ask of Hillary, but NOT Chelsea. Putting her out there on the stump does NOT give the public or the media the right to ask Chelsea these questions. That you even think so, Jake Tapper, shows how cynical you've become.
I think Evan Strange was embarrassed and humiliated by the response. It was a blow to his male ego. Maybe Chelsea could have rebuffed him in a better way, but he needs to get over it. Now other jerks feel they can get their own 15 minutes of fame by goading her with another similar question. They should put themselves in her shoes. Or for example, those of Eliot Spitzer's daughters. If Silda Spitzer decided later on to run for office, should her CHILDREN--if they were campaigning for their mother--be forced to answer any question about their dad? No...only if they wanted to. But it should never be expected.
Posted by: rhian | Apr 1, 2008 12:23:44 PM
The Lewinsky scandal is not somebody's father's or husband's affair.
It is America' biggest and most famous White House scandal since Watergate.
And it is not only about Lewinsky, it is about Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Sally Perdue, Dolly Kyle Browning, Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey as well.
It is about powerful man's abuse of women and about his wife - running for President today - covering his affairs up.
It's about lawsuits, dirty money (Clinton offered Paula Jones $850,000.00 to settle the matter), obstruction of the investigations and US law, and about perjury.
Most shocking thing: every time it has been about both Bill and Hillary Clinton.
The idea that Americans would be prepared to send these people back to the White House is totally beyond me.
'None of your business,' Chelsea's answer, is only one more proof of the Clinton family's unprecedented arrogance when it comes to power in America and the abuse of it.
If Sen. Obama is able to throw this family out of politics, he is an American Hero as we haven't seen one of them since Ronald Reagan left office.
Posted by: brenda | Apr 1, 2008 12:19:56 PM
Westcoastmessenger:
Their posts were censored and taken down.
If I tell you what their comments weere about, mine will probably be taken off too.
Sorry!!!!
Posted by: stella | Apr 1, 2008 12:18:29 PM
MIGuy,
I think the part that is none of anybody's business is the personal, hurtful impact that this experience probably had on Chelsea. She is entitled to not talk about that on a stage in front of thousands. You do therapy in private, not on a stage.
The bigger question is what does this have to do with the year 2008, and doesn't anybody care that they are paying $4 for a gallon of gasoline?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 1, 2008 12:16:57 PM
For the life of me, I can't figure out what Bill's conduct has to do with Hillary's ability to be President. We've had numerous philandering presidents in our past, and Congress is riddled with Senators and Congressmen who routinely break their marriage vows. The tragedy of Monica is that it was truly an issue between 3 people - Bill, Monica, and Hillary - that became a National Soap Opera.
Here's a question for you: if Monica is an issue that's important to you, then why isn't Obama's admitted drug use? (If both are important to you, then is it fair to assume you're a McCain supporter?)
Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 1, 2008 12:16:53 PM
Politics is dirty. Clinton's affair is not different than any other affair. President or not people are people and to expect them to be perfect is hiding your head in the sand. If we are going to keep bringing up the affair we need to bring up all the affairs of others also. Let it go. Monica is not important enough to keep bringing her up.
Posted by: Linda | Apr 1, 2008 12:16:49 PM
There are certainly better questions to ask this young woman - and questions much more relevant for her experience and knowledge.
With that said, "none of your business" is a nonsense reply. When the President lies to the American public boldy and risks his entire Presidency and the respect of the Office - it is our business.
She should just say "it is a painful private issue in my family that unfortunately played out in the public eye. My mother is not my father and the issue is not relevant to this campaign." She will be dogged by this question until she reminds her younger peers of some decency, but to say that this is not our business is wrong. All of us who supported and believed in President Clinton had this 'business' forced on us.
Posted by: MIguy | Apr 1, 2008 12:14:04 PM
Stella,
What did Candela write? I'm not seeing the thread. Must have been deleted by the censors.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 1, 2008 12:12:52 PM
C,
Obviously your not married or did not take your vows seriously, some of us do. I'm sure you've heard the drill on TV or in movies, though, "for better or worse". Some people don't have the character to stick it out through tough times. Hillary does. I'm sure you are one of the people that wants her to drop out of the race. Do you notice that she is stronger than that, and by default, stronger than you?
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 1, 2008 12:07:21 PM
IF YOUR FATHER DOES THE SAME THING BILL DID, PEOPLE WILL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTIONS THEY ASKED CHELSEA CLINTON. IN POLITICS THERE IS NO PERSONAL AFFAIRS. YOU RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE, YOUR PERSONAL AFFAIRS WILL BECOME PUBLIC. THIS IS A FAIR GAME. GOVERNORS, MAYORS HAVE RESIGNED AND BEING INDIGHTED AS A RESULT OF THIS TYPE OF SHAMEFUL ACTS. YOU CANNOT REPRESENT PEOPLE AND EXPECT NOT BE CRITICIZED. THIS IS PLOITICS. IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE IT, GET OUT.
Posted by: Politics | Apr 1, 2008 12:06:02 PM
The Lewinsky scandal is THE taboo issue during this campaign, even in the MSM, which sufficiently proves that the media has not been tough at all on the Clintons. On the contrary.
Hillary publicly stood by the cheating President throughout the Lewinsky scandal. On January 27, in an appearance on NBC's Today she famously said, "The great story here for anybody willing to find it, write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president."
As always, Hillary assumed the duty of directing the "bimbo eruption squad" and scandal defense:
...She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit.
...She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.
...Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all.
...And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
...And Bill was impeached by the House.
...And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" 56 times under oath).
NO word about all this anymore in the MSM, and YET Hillary supporters are whining that the media have heen hard on her.
It's incredible to watch, this whole process. Instead of discussing the Clintons' history of perjury and obstruction of justice, the MSM discusses the difference between a 'p' and a 'P' in the word professor.
America, America.
Posted by: Horas | Apr 1, 2008 12:04:16 PM
If a woman would allow a man to do as Bill