Political Punch

Folks,

We don't have to guess what might happen in the general election. We have enough polling data to get a pretty good idea.

They take all available polling data (from all 50 states) and plot it on the electoral map. In a head to head comparison between a Clinton/McCain and Obama/McCain race, Clinton is more electible.

Clinton beats McCain 291 electoral votes to 236 with Indiana being too close to call. Obama edges McCain 264 to 263 but does not get the 270 electoral votes required to win. The election would be decided by Indiana which is currently statistically tied between Republicans and Democrats but almost always leans Republican.

Why take the chance when we know that Clinton can win? She is leading the popular vote if you count Michigan and Florida and she will likely be leading in the popular vote at the end of the primaries. That should be enough to give her the nomination since neither candidate can reach the magical number of pledged delegates.

Think about it, actually, it is Obama who created such destruction in Democratic party. If he waited for a few more years and cleared his barriers during that peirod, that would his ideal time to come out and no one could stop him. Then Democratic can take white house for 16 years. But right now, he is not experienced and popular enough to take Hillary or Rep out easily.

Get out of here democratic fat cats and let the race finish. Senator Clinton is going to win anyways.

EXPERIENCE - What kind of experience prepares one for the presidency? I don't think there is really any. Truman- who was in my opinion the best leader in recent history, was a high school graduate and had nothing in his background to make people confident in his abilities. But he had common sense, honesty, integrity, was pragmatic, knew how to listen to people and then make the decisions he had to make and then take responsibility for those decisions. Those are all the gifts I believe Obama possesses. Give him credit for putting together a great campaign - that takes leadership skills. Ask yourself why so many people who have worked closely with the Clintons are on Obama's team? If Hillary wins it will be a major defeat for the country.

David- I believe the reason Gore lost was because their was a backlash on Clinton. Think about it- economically things were good. The Democrats should have won easily. But emotionally and spiritually the country was drained from all the scandals, lies and one "gate" after another. Those feelings were expressed at the polls, against Gore. That is why I believe he lost - it had nothing to do with him, hanging chads or anything except people were sick of all the garbage and Bush seemed to be something the Clintons were not - ethical. I'm not saying that proved to be true but it was the perception at the time. That is why Hillary cannot win the nomination - this country can't go through all that garbage again. Too much at stake right now and too much work to be done.

IAM SO GLADE THEY ARE AT LEAST CONSIDERING SHUTTING THIS PRIMARY DOWN. WHO EVER HAS THE MOST DELAGATES AND OR POP VOTES AFTER THE SEASON SHOULD WIN .THE SDs VOTES SHOULD COME TO PUT THEM TO THAT NUMBER OR USE FL AND MI AS TIE BREAKERS.

DNC you screwed up the votes for FL & MI and now you're trying to stitch up the rest of the voting! People have a democratic right to vote!!! Even if Obama is buying Super Deligates!!! How much are you making?!
SHAME ON YOU DNC, SHAME ON YOU!!!

molly:
I live in Florida and you don't
know anything!
It was a state decision to move the
primary date up!
Both Republicans and Democrats voted
almost unanimously to move the date up!

Mccain just uses a simple word " Experience" to beat Obama in 08. Obama has very less EXPERIENCE for the white house. As a result, Mccain will win a big at this election in November.

Have waited patiently for the Democrats to do the best thing for our country during this long primary season.

We feel that the "dream team" is actually Edwards/Richardson (our original first choices)- candidates who appear to have the maturity and experience to lead our huge, diverse country with compassion and logic.

In an ideal world- the voters should have a chance to vote again for the BEST candidates, instead of watching and wasting time with the politics of negativity.

Oh, but this IS POLITICS, not the ideal world, so we can't say "none of the above." Or can we?

Dream Team "Edwards/Richardson 2008"

i am with you, average joe!
The party has self-destructed in the past few years. There use to be values that you knew the party stood for. There just were core values we all held. Now you actually need to ask, or investigate to see the latest stand, and then see if the party has moved at all in that direction. Reid and Pelosi have squandered the opportunity the party/country gave them when we voted them in office. They have done nothing. It is a sad commentary. I have been a loyal dem for 36 years, NEVER voted republican. I may well vote mccain this year, as I refuse to vote bho-a racist and unamerican citizen, unfit to represent this country, especially with a white hating non-patriot, wife--. I too, will probably leave the party and un-affiliated, since independent is usually considered a party, too.

I am sick of Reid, Pelosi and Dean. In all my years with this party, this is the most pathetic group of incompetents running the democratic primaries. You people are real close to losing me in this election and at times I wish I had not voted for some of you in '06. Time to go Independent!

Oh sure, Hillary is now going to take her orders from Reed and Polosi ! Hillary cares nothing for the Democratic party or the country, it's all about her. I wouldn't be surprised if she runs as a third party against Obama to insure he looses so she can run again in 4 years.

Obama supporters are always whining that Clinton is making him unelectable. Ever heard Clinton supporters whine that Obama is making her unelectable? What's that tell you? Clyburn went all over the airwaves today whimpering about the Clinton's making the nomination not worth having....it's pathetic. Obama supporters KNOW he's going to lose, and are already plotting the excuses. Clyburn is a dumb baboon.

The superdelegates should stop fooling around and just put Hillary over the top. What more do they need to see that Obama is unelectable?

There is no rule that the one who lead the delegate count will get the nomination under the Democrates proportionality rule unless the count reaches 2025. If neither candidate reaches 2025, they have to go to convention for a tie-breaker. Before reaching 2025 delegates, nobody has a claim of the nomination.

The OBAMA campaign, surrogates, and supporters are presumptuous that own the nomination. It is unethical to oust another candidate to get their nomination. It is against the rule. It is not fair to people voting. People are entitled to have all the votes counted and all the voices heard.

The black community turned their table on Bill Clinton over very petty things that they should be ashamed of. They are just making excuses for their racism and voting on the colour of skin rather than issues. These are the fact that Americans will long remember before the race is over.

Pushing Hillary out of the race is not a solution but a problem for the party. As the momentum of the race swinging to Hillary, the OBAMA people are ruining the party more than everything else. Hillary is just fighting for his rights which are legitimate and well deserved.

Again, nobody should count their chicken before all the eggs are hatched. Maths and statistics represents probability not reality. The changing tide proves that Maths don't mean a thing. Just follow the rule and stop making up new rules to mess up the party anymore.

Do not make up new rules because the world is watching OBAMA is doing everything that he was against. From now on, he is downhill all the way.

He has never been a leader of any significant cause in the congress and bipartisanship. No one with a sensible mind thinks that he will.

Put up a good fight and stop your foul play, OBAMA and your fanatics stink.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said that he, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean will give a cause that will make Democratic party big lose in November.

Repurican party will have a big win this fall because of Reid, Pelosi, and Dean make a very bad decision.

John McCain anh Clinton have very good exprience, but Obama doesn't.

If no Clinton, I will vote for John McCain.

roncraw:

"This is not racist,its facts. Obama hasn't won the white vote since Feb 19."

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When is the last time Clinton won the black vote? As you said, this is not racist, it's facts.

Sorry I didn't see the show. But the Super Delegates are not pledged to vote like their state. My understanding is that they were created to step in when we are in the kind of situation we are in now - to be sure that the party is not split down the middle. Anyway, I was watching Bill Moyers tonight with Rev. Wright. Anyone watching with an open mind would see that much of what we have seen and heard has been created in the press to discredit Obama. I am very happy he came forward finally and spoke.

joyfullyyors the Okla. Gov was on CNN tonight and said he was endorsing Obama. Asked how he could go against his states voters who voted 55 to 31 for Hillary. He said as a superdel. he had to vote the way he felt was best. Doesn't this take away the argument that Obama has the numbers.

My fear is that neither Obama or Clinton can win this thing. Mitt Romney noted when he dropped out that the election was never about him it was about the party and the country. I thought he was a class act when he said that. Clinton will NEVER drop out, because this whole thing has always been about her and her ambition. Obama surprised her and Bill by actually being a credible candidate that appeals to voters. The were so surprised that Hillary was not the shoe in she thought she was. People this is bigger than anyones ego here. Obama is ahead and has been ahead all along. All she is doing is making it impossible for us Democrats to win in November. I say the Super Delegates should be forced to choose right now. Enough of this garbage.

This is not racist,its facts. Obama hasn't won the white vote since Feb 19.

I hope the democratic party has learned their lesson to not let anyone run for the presidency as a democrat without being fully vetted. Obama would NEVER have won in the states that he did if his poor judgement for 20 years had been revealed prior. Now the AA community has their hopes up for someone who can never win. The AA community will see it as a racist thing when it is totally due to only one AA's lack of judgement--Barack Obama. The AA's deserve a president, but not this one.

Let me go on record to say, Hillary was not the only senator to vote for the war. Numerous senators did. Obama did not vote for the war but voted for the funding. Same thing. Who is he kidding. Obama is usally absent when he knows a bill is going to be issued so he can I wasn't there. Congress should hold up the voting until he is there. He is cunning, a liar, fake and will not win the nomination for president.

There will be two more Ads running against Obama by two different organizations stating about him what was not on the news. I already what they are and believe me they are doozies. Its looks like there are some intelligent people around that are wise to Obama and his lies, his close ties to Farrakhan, Ayers, Ayres and the racist pastor Wright. I am surprised at the white people for voting for Obama. I gather are they anti-american also like Obama is?

BKMC: Your are so wrong as usual. You say any dumb statement that comes into your head. Of course Dean is going to seat MI that's why their getting their delegates ready. You must be boozing if you didn't read that. FL I don't know. Obama is afraid of these states being seated because Hillary will beat him in the popular vote. If he is sure of himself why would he care. That's because he is afraid he will lose the nomination and believe me he would.

Swifty: You must be taking what Obama took in his college days. No way is he going to win the nomination because Hillary will capture it and leave Obama in the dust where he belongs. He is nothing but a liar,fake and racist. He shouldn't even be campaigning for the presidency of this country. If Hillary doesn't win the nomination I hope all ov Hillary's voters for for McCain and leave Obama hanging.

The superdelegates need to give a FAIR look at the true population stats and realize that Obama is unelectable in the GE!!! The caucus system does not count thousands of seniors and people unable to get off work to attend a lot of these caucuses. There are thousands of uncounted HRC votes out there - not to mention FL & MI. These states will ALL count in the general election. We also need to see OBAMA DEBATE HRC AGAIN so that we can get more of those character questions answered and to see if Obama has the debating skills to stand up to McCain in the GE. GET REAL DNC AND GET US AN ELECTABLE CANDIDATE - AT LEAST DEMAND THAT OBAMA DO ANOTHER DEBATE TO PROVE THAT HE IS WORTHY TO BE POTUS!!!!

jbate: But Obama canot win the major battleground states and those are important if the Dems are going to take backthe white house. He will not win them in a general election. Get real. They don't want him now or never otherwise they would have voted for him. If he wins the nomination the Dems will lose for sure. He is ready to be president of this country and I wouldn't vote for him if he needed my one vote to win. I would make him lose. He is a liar, fake and copycat.

11 more days and Hillary is effectively over. Thank God. I am ready to tune out on this race. How about you all?

Go Obama

Its becoming increasingly clear that what's delaying many superdelegates from making their choice (of candidate)clear is fear of retaliation from and conflict with the Clintons. This is sad. I didnt realize that a person (or group of persons) could bully their way into the U.S. presidency. Apparently they can. We'll find out for sure soon.

Addition to what the superdelegates should be concerned about.

Anyone see the ads the gop are running in NC and Washington?

Like I said, the GOP has figured it out. Guilt by association!!!

WAKE UP DEMOCRATS!

What the superdelegates better fear is being associated with obama's laundry list of associates.

The GOP has figured it out, and they are going to use it against every democrat (who supported Obama) running in state elections.

I am amazed that Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Dean, and Mr. Reid are too dumb to see that little possiblity. They seem hell bent on destroying the democratic party, and the superdelegates for their left wing extremist - Mr. Obama.

Its becoming increasingly clear that what's delaying many superdelegates from making their choice clear is fear of retaliation and conflict with the Clintons. This is sad. I didnt realize that a person could bully their way into becoming the president of the United States. Apparently they can.

Obama won the most number of delegates;

Obama won the most number of states won;

Obama won the most popular votes;

Obama won all of the caucuses:

Obama won in every demographic;

Clinton is leading in number of lies told.

FIGURES DON'T LIE BUT LIARS CAN FIGURE

OBAMA 08

Anyone that questioned Hillarys vote for the war should read Hagels book. He wrote"I voted for the resolution based on the presidents's assurances that he would do everything possible to find a dipomatic solution before going to war" Just what Hillary has been saying all along.Hagel said he now regrets his vote.

molly, something needed to be done to stop the states from moving their primaries up, otherwise we would have been voting at Thanksgiving or Halloween. RNC chopped the delegates in half, DNC got rid of all the delegates. Either way, the democrats in FL had no choice. FL & MI will be taken care of at the convention with equal delegates, but you can't count them now. I think that Hillary or Obama would destroy mcmore-war in the Fall. No party has held onto the white house during a recession year. Obama 2008!

pt, if the republicans in Fl were responsible, which I knew, why would the DNC punish the delegates. I just don't understand since dems had nothing to do with it

Neo, you need to get your facts straight. The DNC had no choice in FL, the republican controlled state moved the primary up illegally knowing what the rules were. (This is the second time the republicans have screwed FL, maybe something to do with the other bush) Hopefully FL voters will get it right in Nov. Obama 2008!

this election counts......how dare you talk about the youth like that. A lot of those flaky youth as you call them are over in Iraq fighting for YOU.

Look at how the Republicans screwed up the country! Big difference between campaigning and governing.

Ask the DNC why they disenfranchised millions of voters and screwed-up their own party. If they can't run the party, how can they run the country?

Being from MI I will be outraged if my vote does not count. How many Mi and FL democrats will they disenfranchise by not counting our votes. More than the flaky youth who still don't commit and actually vote for Obama. They are not voting and closing the deal for Obama. They are more interested in sleeping until 2 pm and can't get to the polls (interrupts their video games when they finally do wake up).

Pelosi is a disgrace. As Speaker of a Democratic Senate she could not even get the ERA bill passed to reverse the absurd ruling of the Supreme Court. What has she accomplished? She took impeachment of Bush off of the table. She is not a person to be dictating who should be the DNC candidate. I am very very disappointed in Pelosi. Replace her.

Last time I checked, Florida and Michigan were part of the 50 UNITED States. Constitutionally, how can you elect a president for the 50 UNITED States with only counting 48 of them? As for Polosi, she is getting obnoxious and acts like a bimbo at times. Sometimes, she looks like she is in the bag with something, booze or some drug. Sometimes she slurs her words and seems to have a problem putting a thought together. I think she has turned out a mess as Speaker. Scares me she is 3rd in line for the presidency. That would be tragic if she ended up in the oval office. THEN, our country would seem like child's play under Bush compared to what she would do to it. As for this race bit, we were handling it calmly, peacefully for the most part, slowly and gradually until Obama come on the scene and started stirring the pot. This so called "uniter" is really dividing the country by "using" the blacks for his own selfish ambitions. Isn't it strange how this 1/2 white boy turned all black all of a sudden. He must not have cared for his mother the way he has thrown her memory under the bus when it suited him. It isn't Clinton using the race card, it is Obama "USING" the black community for his own ambitions. This upsets me because it means the blacks are throwing away their chance to have a competent black president down the line for this unexperienced, divious "Brownie." It is not his color that is turning us off, it is all the baggage and bad judgements in his short career that comes with him. We can't afford "Bone-headed mistakes" and "Mis-speaks" in this troubled world.

All I hear from Sr. Clinton is that she is a FIGHTER, Bush is a fighter TOO. What has their ability to be fighters gotten the American people. We are in a NO WIN situation and if we can get out of IRAQ in the next three YEARS it will be amazing. We need someone as President who can bring together the diversity of the people Islamic, Jewish and Christian to a table to save the economies and the plant from destruction. IT IS A FACT that to everyone in every country is interdepent on each other for the survival of our race and until we start working together with that GOAL in mind we will continue to back pedal. If we advance technology in healthcare and agriculture and combat drugs and corruption in THE USA and around the world. We need to reestablish ourselves as a World Leader who cares about ALL of the problems of this PLANET.

Vnd: Oh you're so scary!
As far as the "third party" idea goes that's the only way a Clinton can win
a general election!
I wonder how much the Clintons paid
Ross Perot to run in 1992?
He got 19 percent of the vote and
Bill Clinton won with less than 50
percent of the vote!
If Hillary runs as a third party candidate her political career wiil be over and she will split the Democrat vote and McCain will win!
Do it, I Dare Ya, Hillary!

dk - - -

It's never been about when each state votes. It's about making change the right way, or the wrong way. These state reps (only a handful mind you) decided to try to hold the DNC hostage with these pranks. This is not the way to do it. Perhaps a DNC referendum might have worked. These people were told right up front, what would happen if they did.

The candidates were further told not to campaign there. They agreed, but now Hillary is twisting in the wind and whining. She thinks that the voters of these two states will believe her when she says, "this is an Obama conspiracy." Let's be adult here.

If we don't like the system, let's change it. But in a uniform LEGAL manner.

The voters in both of those states will still be able to vote in November. It will come down to two different philosophies. That's all, nothing more. All the bickering will be gone.

I personally don't care who the Democratic contender is. This person will be subject to the Republican back stabbing and fictional next door neighbor with pervert stories forever.

I didn't make the rules. You didn't either. Maybe next time, we can tell the RNC and the DNC just what we ALL think by not voting at all!

Obama is leading in number of delegates;

Obama is leading in number of states won;

Obama is leading in number of popular votes;

Obama is leading in the caucuses:

Obama is leading in every demographic;

Clinton is leading in number of lies told.

FIGURES DON'T LIE BUT LIARS CAN FIGURE

OBAMA 08

Here is the bottom line. If Hillary wins the popular vote (all of the popular vote, including Florida and Michigan), but Obama wins the nomination based on delegate count, or because the leadership is intimidated by the threat of a Black voter revolt, then it is Al Gore all over again and the Democratic party does not deserve to win the presidency.

I'm sorry, but I really thought Clinton would be winning. She is not. I like both candidates, but what she has done to try to catch up is POLITICAL TERRORISM! She is holding a gun to the Democrats saying I will destroy the party and Obama's reputation any way she can, if she doesn't get her way. It is amazing that someone can be that SELFISH (someone I once held in high regard compared to her husband Bill who was a discrace to the country). Again she is a POLITICAL TERRORIST and so is anyone associated with her. Maybe she is using her campaign funds to pay off many of her 'Corporate friends'.

I concur, the Speaker and other Dem leaders need to fully support the completion of the contest. Why are we afraid to go to the convention? I want the leaders of our party to take a stand and take it now - get the votes in FL and MI in the game! The only truly unpatriotic thing about this contest is the way our leaders ignore the catastrophe we had in 2000 and the fact that we will repeat that tragedy again if Obama were to be the nominee, for better or worse, he is not a viable candidate and never was - he simply got away with his "American Idol" candidate charade for longer than he should have.

Ok Florida should count as is- they both campaigned there either thru TV and one day personal appearances, record number of voters showed up at poll due to a state issue that was being voted on.

Now MI well that should count also because Obama voluntarily took his name off ballot!

So Hilary won!!

Note to all of you Clinton supporters:
Hillary Clinton only won
Pennsylvania by 9 per cent of the vote
she needed 10 percent or more!
She made a net gain of about 6 delegates! Obama still leads by about
140 delegates, 500,000 votes and states
won! Do the math she can't win!
It's time for her to pack it in unless
her hidden agenda is to make sure that
Obama can't win the general election!

One could poll both Michigan and Florida and use those results to divide up the delegates. Many people in Florida did not vote as it was not gong to count. The Clinton idea of accepting the Michigan result in which Obama was not on the ticket sounds like a story told with a Bill Southern drawl. Poll the people and divide the delegates based on the percentages. I'd use Gallup and Rasmuesen.

I hope when this is done, they run all three of these jokers out on a rail. I was so proud when nancy pelosi became the speaker, being a woman, that made me so proud. But she's been a massive disappointment.. she's a san francisco liberal. You'd think Harry Reid would be better, but he's not. And Howard Dean.. what a wimp. If they nominate Obama, they deserve to lose. But the sad thing is, it's the regular folks like me who will suffer. That's why I will hold it against all of them.

tejasoutlaw

He did not have it handed to him in PA... over 6 weeks she lost 10 to 15 percent of her support...his numbers in specific groups are actually growing is the dirty little secret...it's just in PA those number s were larger...but there is no chance that Obama is going to lose the majority of those people in the general...

when people are choosing between Obama and McCain...

war hero yes...rev. wrigth will hurt him yes

but ...people are not putting bread on the table mcCain has to itemize even a general foreseen cost of this war...

afghanistan is going down the tubes and we don't have the military to fix it...

mcCain has an economic proposal that is being fairly panned by most

mccain has not faced a legitimate question since we started besides his difference from the right wing...as he was running for the Republican party...

You think people are going to vote in this horrible year for continueing that way...

with Obama's ability to get up off the mat

Yes Obama's ability to get up off the mat... it is better than Hillary's

you see Obama BEAT Hillary in HER OWN party where her favorables and chance were 2 to 3 times as good as in the general.

So now you want to argue that she would be the better nominee?

You are not looking at the facts.

Obama is the better candidate...he BEAT the Clintons intheir own DEMOCRATIC PARTY with the demographic that was her base...her one and only strength.

Her favorables are worse with independent sand republicans... yet you all want to win by trashing him to try and get him lower than her.

yeah that is really smart. Most Americans (especially independents) aren't as angry that "their candidate" lost or is losing like many of Hillary supporters so these issues will be minimized in the face of this and the economy the war ...the future ...our standing in the world...our need to regain strong support from the peoples of those countries that our are allies...
all that will come back and far outweigh these issues you all are trying to fan the flames of (and so will the repubs but I have a feeling outside of hannity and fox...this will be a real debate more than it has been with the Clintons)

People are dying, people are losing their homes, parents are not taking their medications, terrorism toward us is on the rise because of our standing in the world and the earth may be in peril.

You think voters are still going to vote on this stuff? and that Hillary would have the better hand?

That is, yes, dumb.

All these comments against Obama are "REPUBLICAN'S"
Every poll says OBAMA WILL KICK McCAIN'S BEHIND!"
"THE REPUBLICANS WANT HILLARY" Because they KNOW McCAIN WILL BEAT HER EASILY"
The Republicans have their propaganda machine working overtime to try to push Hillary thru so they can have another four years to finish the destruction of our country that GW BUSH and His Republican congress has started.
VOTE OBAMA 2008 and at the same time vote to remove every republican in every office and in every state that has helped GW BUSH destroy our nation !!!

McCain Will be the next President and the Republicans are making sure of it.
They KNOW that 99% of all democrats hate the Clintons and if Hillary is chosen that everybody will vote for McCain out of spite or not vote at all. They are playing this very well by showing up in force and voting for her.Mark my words, McCain will be the next President and we will have four more years of the Bush destruction machine where the poor gets poorer and the oil industry prospers!

OMG! This is the first time that I have connected these three as leaders of the Democratic Party. What a complete and utter joke. I am a lifelong Democrat, however to see these three together is just chilling. Pelsoi, who will go down in history as doing nothing other than running her mouth. Reid, just a total meek little mouse and Dean, well his actions can speak louder that anything that I can say.

What a sad state of affairs this party is in. Embarrassing, humiliating and just awful.

Way to get out in front of this issue loser Dems (NOT!). I've already decided both candiddates are-self-involved asses who would throw both their party, and it's chances for a win, under the bus for vanity. Screw them both!

obama's just a wuss who can't take the pressure. first he had to take a vacation when things got a little too tough. then he has a humiliating loss and has to have a day off.

plus abc, unlike the other obama-kissing networks, asked him a few tough questions, he looked like an idiot, so now he won't do any more debates.

wimp!

OB Snowed and then Blinded = Snowblind!

To dk:
Snow+Blind?

Any Obama supporter who isn't railing against the fact that Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson et al have gone AGAINST THE WILL of their state's voters to cast their Superdelegate votes for Obama... have absolutely no business saying that the remaining SuperDs must respect the will of the people as regarding votes cast.

The SuperDs were formed to prevent a nomination disaster ala Barack Obama who cannot win a general election.

David NH.......... I personally applaud what the Dem Party's in Florida and Michigan did when they moved up the state primaries. Finally someone is growing a set and challenging a flawed system that permits candidates to be picked by small insignificant states such as IA, NH, and SC. Why should those voters have a voice and the vast majority of voters be left out in the cold? The problem isn't Michigan and Florida, the problem is a flawed system and people who want to disenfranchise voters in pivotal states. The way I see it, the only person being "inconsiderate" here is you. Just because you're from NH and actually get a voice you have no problem quelling the voices of others. Sounds pretty selfish and self-centered to me.... but that's what we've all grown to expect from supporters of a certain candidate.

"Democratic Leadership" is an oxymoron!

What I am saying is people that have been registered for a few years, that vote in most if not all election, their vote can br counted on. She is bringing in those votes because she has more experiaince, a track record of her voting in the Senate, her plans for helthcare and education, she has had these veiws since her husband was President; involment in the Whithouse as First Lady and all her years in the Senate.

BO has had 1 turn in the Illinois State Senate, barely 1 turm in the US Senate.

Who would you hire for a job!

The one that brings in the older consistant voters! They vote in most; if not all elections!

I am afraid he has been ablel to snow+blind a lot of people! I have checked out his web page! Because I have in countered a lot of BO Followers that beleave he voted no in the Senate on the Iraq War! That vote took place in Oct. of 2002; BO did not inter the Senate untill Jan. 2005!

This is what he has on his web site; it is very missleading! Judge for yourself.

PLAN FOR ENDING THE WAR IN IRAQ
“But conventional thinking in Washington lined up for war. The pundits judged the political winds to be blowing in the direction of the President. Despite - or perhaps because of how much experience they had in Washington, too many politicians feared looking weak and failed to ask hard questions. Too many took the President at his word instead of reading the intelligence for themselves. Congress gave the President the authority to go to war. Our only opportunity to stop the war was lost.
I made a different judgment. I thought our priority had to be finishing the fight in Afghanistan. I spoke out against what I called 'a rash war' in Iraq. I worried about, ‘an occupation of undetermined length, with undetermined costs, and undetermined consequences.’ The full accounting of those costs and consequences will only be known to history. But the picture is beginning to come into focus.”
—Barack Obama, Clinton, Iowa, September 12, 2007

Time to wake up, yes, it's time for the democratic party to wake up. I think all hillary supporters should work together to petition the party and the superdelegates to pay attention to this:

A party nomination without votes in Florida and Michigan will raise serious questions about the democracy of this so-called democratic party!

We should all reject to vote for the democratic party unless they consider the votes in both states. Either count the votes or do a re-vote.

Let's support Hillary adamantly!

I'll 100% not to vote for Obama and will not vote for anyone in the general election. I only vote for Hillary because she's the best. Both Mccain and Obama are not good candidates. Sorry, I just don't think they'll make good presidents.

Doreen, I can't agree with you more!!! Obama's been destroying the democratic party and should drop out of the race as early as possible! He's inexperienced and not ready to be a president, yet he's so power-driven and has been trying to damage Hillary. By running a negative campaign against Hillary, he's been damaging the party and in the end, he'll not win the general election! He's the one to be blamed! He revolts me seriously!

Texan, I totally agree with you. If Obama wins the nomination without a re-vote in Florida and Michigan, then I'm sorry, the democratic party, you will lose my vote in the general election. I'll not vote for anyone, and absolutely not Barack Obama! I feel so sick of the democratic party, why don't Dean, Pelosi, Reid and Carter talk about a re-vote in Florida and Michigan but push superdelegates to make up their mind without considering these two major states? The democratic party absolutely can't win in the fall without winning these battlegrounds, and Obama's the fragile one. His victories are based on caucuses and the proportional delegate system, however, in the general election, there'll be no caucuses and it'll be winner-take-all. Most of his winning states are republican states and small states that have fewer electoral votes! Democrats, please wake up and elect Hillary!!!

I am a Texas State Convention Delegate; I have been a Democrat for a long time.

If Florida and Michigan don't get a re-vote and BO gets the nomination; I will go and vote (I have friends running for other offices) in November but I will leave the President BLANK! I won't be breaking party rules I will just ABSTAIN on President!

FLORIDA & MICHIGAN THE HANGING CHAD OF 2008!

God Bless America

why do you people continue blaming Obama over his pastors comments and not blaming Hillary with Bill's adultery and cheating in the whitehouse. we are all behaving like Mugabe in zimbabwe, stop attacking obama. if your former school teachers does someting, does it affect you your future career