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Rev. Wright Defends Sermons, Self in First Interview

April 24, 2008 1:42 PM

Tomorrow on PBS, Bill Moyers will interview Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright  in his first interview since the controversy erupted about some of his inflammatory remarks.

Wright insists there was nothing wrong with his sermons.

"The persons who have heard the entire sermon understand the communication perfectly," he tells Moyers, according to excerpts released by Moyers' show.

[For the full context of Rev. Wright's sermons click HERE.]

"When something is taken like a sound bite for a political purpose and put constantly over and over again, looped in the face of the public," Wright says, "that's not a failure to communicate. Those who are doing that are communicating exactly what they want to do, which is to paint me as some sort of fanatic or as the learned journalist from the New York Times called me, a 'wackadoodle.'   

"It's to paint me as something: 'Something's wrong with me. There's nothing wrong with this country…for its policies. We're perfect. Our hands are free. Our hands have no blood on them,'" Wright says. "That's not a failure to communicate. The message that is being communicated by the sound bites is exactly what those pushing those sound bites want to communicate."

And what does Wright think "they" wanted to communicate?

"That I am unpatriotic, that I am un-American, that I am filled with hate speech, that I have a cult at Trinity United Church of Christ," Wright says. "And by the way, guess who goes to his church, hint, hint, hint? That's what they wanted to communicate.  They know nothing about the church. They know nothing about our prison ministry. They know nothing about our food sharing ministry. They know nothing about our senior citizens home. They know nothing about all we try to do as a church and have tried to do, and still continue to do as a church that believes what Martin Marty said, that the two worlds have to be together. And that the gospel of Jesus Christ has to speak to those worlds, not only in terms of the preached message on a Sunday morning but in terms of the lived-out ministry throughout the week.

Moyers asks Wright what he thought when he began to see the sound bites circulating.

"I felt it was unfair," he says, "I felt it was unjust. I felt it was untrue. I felt for those who were doing that, were doing it for some very devious reasons….The blowup and the blowing up of sermons preached 15, seven, six years ago and now becoming a media event, not the full sermon, but the snippets from the sermon and sound bite having made me the target of hatred, yes, that is something very new and something very, very unsettling."

Wright is also asked how it went down after Obama criticized Wright?

"It went down very simply," Wright responds. "He's a politician, I'm a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they're two different worlds. I do what I do. He does what politicians do. So that what happened in Philadelphia where he had to respond to the sound bytes, he responded as a politician."

Wright adds that he's "absolutely" never heard Obama repeat any of Wright's controversial statements as his own. "I don't talk to him about politics," Wright says. "And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God."

- jpt

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Has anyone here read books by Rev James Cone; Rev wrights black theological mentor? If you haven’t read Rev. James Cone’s books to find out what Rev. Wright believes, preaches and his church scrubbed from his web site. Obama POTUS and Rev. Wright Vice President what a horrible thought. Oh did anyone else see the Los Angeles Times article about Illinois state Senator Obama laundering money $112,000 salary Obama received from a political supporter Robert Blackwell through Obama's law firm to hide the fact it came from Robert Blackwell who received political monetary favors from Obama totaling $320,000 in Illinois State Grants. Obama committed a crime that is illegal Obama supporters, the DNC and Super-delegates. Obama will eventually be indicted and charged with this crime and others. The DNC, Obama supporters and Super-delegates are giving the election to McCain if Obama is the Democratic Nominee for President. It's time for Obama to quit before he gets arrested. The people of the Democratic Party, the DNC and Super-delegates need to unite, vote and support Hillary Clinton for President. Go to www.hillaryclinton.com read her speeches and solutions for real changes that will benefit all American's. Make donations of your time, phone calls, go door to door and give money generously to her campaign. Hillary has solutions for real substantial changes that will benefit all the people of the USA. www.hillaryclinton.com donate and vote for Hillary.

Posted by: Bob4USA | Apr 29, 2008 12:53:36 AM

The coverage of Rev. Wright and his relationship to Sen. Obama is a disgrace to the American people and demostrates the sorry state to which the media has sunk. The sad part is that the whole world is watching America's media attempt to destroy and divide the voters on the basis of race and fear, rather than reporting the candidates' positions on the important issues with which we are confronted like health care, the housing crisis, and soaring gas prices. Fortunately, your lies and slants have been exposed with Rev Wright's interview with Bill Moyers (as a journalist, he gets an "A"!), so now we see a well educated former Marine filled with courage, honesty, and love for all.

You should all return to school and relearn how to report the news, objectively. We Americans are not as close minded and fearful as you think we are.

Posted by: c m | Apr 27, 2008 11:04:32 PM

We have become people who do not realize that we do not shape our own thoughts. Consider the source of the early reporting of this story. The whole world has become a stage and we are all at home voting people off the stage like viewers of a reality show. The media picks the participants and we we only view them as they have been presented to us. 30 years of pastoring a church, do people believe that nearly 8000 people would congregate to hear about hating the country. People have been able to see past this type of distraction because they would like myself want to be one country underneath the surface. I would like to feel like someone can address all people in this country sincerely from a place of love based on diverse experiences. I want to look at the President and see all of us. I attended a town hall meeting and sat with a group of diverse people and we were all excited about the possibility of people improving their lives, even people who are statistically written off or have a jail cell waiting for them at birth but not a grade school, middle school, high school or college education waiting for them. I want those people to have a chance. Our leadership has not understood those people. Rev. Jeremiah Wright is simply being paraded around as media fodder and campaign fodder based on fear and preying on fear of others by those who control the media. I hope that his Church continues to reach out to that commmunity after he retires through a new generation with different experiences than his. How much good has he encouraged in over 30 years while we were not seeking to poke a stick in his eye to encourage doubt about a candidate for presidency. What has he been doing all of these years while we were not judging him. Do you really think these people at his church have existed on hate? I am so glad that I know better and that because of my own experiences I am not shaping my views on slanted media, but from my own diverse experiences and desire to be viewed only as I am, a hard working Ameican who happens to be Black. I and so many people like me continue to try and understand the world as a whole so that we can create a world where we feel like we all feel like we fit and not have to sometimes feel like we are misunderstood. The future generation will be better if they do not allow the internet and media shape their existence. They have an opportunity to create on America and show us how we have hurt each other by words we said and words that we wouldn't say.


Posted by: Exhausted | Apr 27, 2008 10:52:51 AM

The people who were being discriminated against also considered themselves Christians and sat in Church on Sunday and met at the Church for meetings to overcome the segregated, angry and punitive world they existed in based simply on the color of their skin. Rev. Wright is coming from that era. That is his experience in life. He is not afraid to express his discontent with this country because if they had not have done it then, we would have not won equal rights when we did through the civil rights movement. The problem with Rev. Wright is that he has to progress to now, it is not helpful to make controversial statements to make his point. People should be thankful that he has spent over 30 years trying to help a community where there is drugs, poverty and crime. That message did not end with that one statement that has been looped by the media, but the emphasis was placed on that statement to scare people and get them to react the way that people have reacted. There are people in this country who are born into hereditary generational poverty and exist purely as a statistic for their entire existence. The odds are greater for them to go to prison or become a product of their environment. What is the problem and we often say pull yourself up by your own boot straps. Some people are born with no boots and no hope and are doomed to be one statistic or another. It is sad and painful. I think some people feel better about it by ignoring it or fighting it indirectly. That is why some of the people in our country are angry at Rev. Wright. Not because he served in the Military anf deducated himself to helping the people in a poor community. Do people really believe people will congregate on Sunday to hear evil by the thousands. That message is one of many messages and that one statement has been played as much as possible. It does not end there, but that is where people want it to end. I think the Reverend has learned as he approaches retirement that he himself has done a lot of good, but sometimes one statement that could be said in many different ways would have being saying the same thing and people would actually think about what he is saying and not villanize him. He now has to speak about that because he is now on the stage for all America. This is an opportunity for people to at least try to understand other people. But regardless of what he says, the people who have been dreaming of this moment will speak every chance they get to express their own anger.

Posted by: Exhausted | Apr 27, 2008 10:01:22 AM

Most of these post are disheartening and based on negative emotions. I know because I am finally posting because my emotions have gotten the best of me by reading how people really feel about other people. It has very little to do with Barack Obama or Rev. Wright. The people who post ignorant words about Reverend Wright are posting based on their life experience and own beliefs. Very often people equate patriotism to millitary service or people who will not criticize an unjust war or people who pretend that our country is perfect and always has been. When I was growing up my mother gave me praise when I deserved it to encourage me and disciplined me when I needed it to make me a better person. The same goes for our country, we should applaud the good to encourage it and be allowed to speak the truth when it is wrong to make it better without being persecuted. When I viewed the PBS interview, I thought for sure that people could understand a man who entered a recently intergrated millitary branch has experienced racism . His experience of being confronted with the fact that a lot of people who were supporting segregation and discriminating jim crow practices in the south were in Church every Sunday and considered themselves devout Christians when he went to W. Virginia from Philadelphia

Posted by: Exhausted | Apr 27, 2008 9:27:48 AM

Ask yourself two hard questions.

If you went to Wright's church unannounced, would you be made to feel welcome?

And if an ordinary member of Wright's church came to your church unannounced, how would s/he be treated?

Posted by: Jo | Apr 27, 2008 5:38:24 AM

Moyers was a close associate of L. Johnson and was vital in selling the gulf of tonkin story that really got us in the vietnam war. The blood of those 50 thousand heroes on the vietnam momerial is on Mayer's hands. In Pennsylvania, Obama spent over 12millions of dollars had over 9 thousand tv ads, thousand of mailings and calls and still lost by 10 points. I noticed that many people here are saying that Obama won more states. He won the black dem voters in those states not much else. He is the BLACK candidate only.

Posted by: Russ | Apr 26, 2008 7:09:24 PM

Obama is afraid of Hillary, he refused to debate in NC and IN. The PA debate was too much for him, Obama had to answer real questions and he failed. Oprah can't protect Obama all the time.

Posted by: carlson | Apr 26, 2008 2:03:11 PM

Rev Wright should have been called out a LONG time ago. How does it make Obama "brave" now for saying it? It makes him just another politician who will say what he can to get elected.

Posted by: Raleigh Voter | Apr 26, 2008 1:54:26 PM

"When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends."
Japanese Proverb

Goodbye Mr. Obama...

Posted by: Cal | Apr 26, 2008 1:35:12 PM

I thought there was a distinction between church and state. For some Americans to hold a preacher liable for his comments is naivety to a fault. He is a messanger of God's words and draws his inspiration from God and not from man. When touched or invoked, he reveals the message as it is giving to him, without distortions, without fear or favor. That is the role of a preacher which distinguishes him from a politician. Politicians are full of hope and promises. They say to the public what is pleasing to their ears. Please live the Reverend alone. Enough of your hypocrisies.

Posted by: Damian | Apr 26, 2008 9:53:53 AM

Obama is misleading.
He will say whatever he has to to win this election.
He has not been fortcoming since the beginning of this election.
How dare he expect anyone to support him as President of the United States.
Reverend Wright is a hateful man. I don't know of anyone in my whole life that would speak this way in a public arena.

How dare this man want us to understand his cruel statements about the United States and the white race.

If he were my pastor, I would have run from him.

Senator Obama wants to be President. He not only should leave Wright but also the church.

If Senator Clinton went to a church that supported the KKK and supported it, praised it and even gave donations to it would be a disgrace.

Wake up American youth. Please.

Posted by: Rick from Pa | Apr 26, 2008 7:40:42 AM

We don't want, nor indeed can we afford an affirmative-action President. The fact that things, any one of which, would normally bring any White candidate down instantly are passed over should make his affirmative-action status obvious. (Read Michelle's Princeton anti-White thesis and you will realize that she is another affirmative-action recipient. She graduated cum laude--with A's in crip courses that predominated in her major and minor--and was give two affirmative-action jobs, one in the 100 thousand+ range and the other close to 300 thousand. It's great to be given free Ivy League educations (where no professor will dare fail you if you are Black) and great jobs afterwaads! Additionally, if Obama had to wallow in the politics and ignorant attitudes of Wright's church to get elected in Illinois/Chicago, he should realize that those compromises with decency preclude his ever running for national office. (Pastors are supposed to enlighten their flocks, lead them out of darkness, not into the kind of vile ignorance Wright preaches!) THE RACE CARD IN THIS RACE IS OBAMA!--a totally unqualified man (and a leftist by his record), thinking that he can con people into voting for him just because he is Black--that they will completely put aside everyday commonsense, be browbeaten into voting for him or else be labeled racist. The country is full of qualified Blacks, but Obama is not one of them. The sad thing is that the country really need a real Democrat, someone who is not elitist and recognizes the increasingly perilous plight of the working man in America--anyone who works full time, especially at a skilled or highly responsible job, should be able to make a living in this country and have decent benefits, medical insurance and retirement. The working man used to be the Democrat base. What happened?--no one speaks up for the working man these days.
Finally, while not fully satisfied with either, I would not worry excessively with either Hillary or McCain as President.
One man's ideas with which no one has to agree--I would be satisfied if you would at least "brainstorm" some of the above.
Tom R.

Posted by: Tom R | Apr 26, 2008 5:51:12 AM

Wright interview: (definetly taken out of context and has been in some pretty significant places in America's history including LBJ hospital visit and improving life for thousands of children)

Posted by: chris | Apr 26, 2008 1:54:15 AM

For Obama's sake and for the sake of the rest of our country, maybe the Reverend can shut up NOW!

Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | Apr 26, 2008 12:49:41 AM

Its very evident that the only way to get attention is to stir up trouble. When it comes to this presidential race, it's not about Obama and Clinton. If we were only willing to tell the truth. As african americans it's always going to be a challenge, because we have to work that much harder for something in the public's eye. But let's stick to the issue's, where are the jobs, NAFTA, the Clinton's, the Millionaire's. It's a way of not having to deal with what's really wrong with our nation. So they distract the voters with who-do's. Let's stick with what's best for the nation of America, get the gas in control, bring our soldiers back home, there's alot more to worry about then some statement that somebody don't like. If we searched long enough we could definitely open up alot of mess on the othere side. GO OBAMA

Posted by: Rev. Kevin Little Sr. | Apr 25, 2008 10:19:06 PM

Obama couldn't bring "Hope" and "Change" to his church in 20 years. What does anyone think he is going to accomplish in Washington in 4? His church seems to be a place to just make people miserable and disatisfied with their lot in life. It seems more political than religious, "Let's stir the people up!." God is all about hope, but there seems to be none at the Trinity Church.

Posted by: jkr | Apr 25, 2008 9:32:14 PM

This Black Theologian minister married Obama and baptized him and his children.

Whoa! I just can't wait to hear the prayer this man will cook up for the inauguration IF Obama actually pulls it off! THAT should be interesting!

Posted by: Patty- Chicago | Apr 25, 2008 5:32:54 PM

i live in northwest indiana i don't mlk resko,ayers and i don't like obama. i going to vote for hillary or mcCain.

Posted by: delite820 | Apr 25, 2008 4:15:05 PM

I think this :
The religous right got played and got us Bush and the 8 years of destruction of our prestige and economy. We the people deserved it .
This time : We have triangulation , dishonesty and pandering to the fears of everyday mostly uneducated people. We elect this : We the people deserve this .
Someone comes along and talks hope...talks about US changing OUR country ...We can get distracted by petty issues which basically boil down to race. It will show that this country is not ready to live up to its promise , not ready to move past the gutter. Not adult enough to admit its mistakes or correct them . We the people ...Will get the government we deserve... And we in the end will have noone to blame but OURSELVES. If WE dont take back our country . WE may as well just wrap it up and give it to Coorporations , Clintons and the Oil companies and go back to sleep watching American Idol while the ship that used to be the USA sinks slowly in its own ignorance while the rest of the world watches and laughs ..

Posted by: A.P | Apr 25, 2008 4:13:09 PM

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