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RNC and John McCain Condemn Anti-Obama TV Ad; Hillary Clinton Mum
April 23, 2008 5:16 PM
This morning the North Carolina Republican Party introduced a TV ad against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., using images and sound from his controversial former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
(Okay, technically the ad is against Democratic gubernatorial candidates, but only nominally. It's clear purpose it to tag Obama as "extreme.")
"For 20 years, Barack Obama sat in his pew listening to his pastor," the narrator says. Cue Rev. Wright and his "God d--- America" sermon.
The ad then mentions Democratic candidates Bev Perdue and Richard Moore, who have endorsed Obama.
"They should know better," the narrator says. "He's just too extreme for North Carolina."
**
I asked the campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., what they made of the ad.
"John McCain strongly rejects this ad and the type of politics that degrades our civics," spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker immediately responded. "From the beginning of this process McCain has expressed his intent to run a respectful campaign based on the issues, and we have repeatedly called for all parties to follow his lead."
Within a few hours, McCain had written a letter to the chair of the North Carolina GOP, Linda Daves, saying, "From the beginning of this election, I have been committed to running a respectful campaign based upon an honest debate about the great issues confronting America today. I expect all state parties to do so as well. The television advertisement you are planning to air degrades our civics and distracts us from the very real differences we have with the Democrats. In the strongest terms, I implore you to not run this advertisement."
McCain said that the ad "does not live up to the very high standards we should hold ourselves to in this campaign. We need to run a campaign that is worthy of the people we seek to serve. There is no doubt that we will draw sharp contrasts with the Democrats on fundamental issues critical to the future course of our country. But we need not engage in political tactics that only seek to divide the American people. Once again, it is imperative that you withdraw this offensive advertisement."
Republican National Committee spokesman Danny Diaz issued a statement condemning the ad as well.
"Senator McCain has been very clear that he expects to run a respectful campaign based on the critical issues confronting the nation," Diaz said. "The RNC has been in contact with the NC GOP and communicated that we do not believe the ad is appropriate or helpful and have asked that they refrain from running it."
**
This morning I asked three different communications officers of the Clinton campaign for comment on the TV ad.
As of 5 p.m., the Clinton campaign has not commented on the ad.
- jpt
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As of 5 p.m., the Clinton campaign has not commented on the ad.
Hillary is a southern girl, a BARRY GOLDWATER girl... NC Republican party is running the negative ad to help Hillary not McCain.
According to the extreme Right, HRC is in bed with the North Carolina Republican party.
Posted by: JackNH | Apr 27, 2008 11:26:13 PM
Why is this a "Republican mess"? John McCain isn't ...oh wait..I guess he is.
And there is why many republicans do not CARE what he says. The dream ticket is actually Clinton/McCain. They already work so well with each other.
Posted by: MidwestIowa | Apr 26, 2008 9:07:19 AM
Seems like a number of people are voicing the argument that if Obama asks NC Republicans to take this ad down, that it would be hypocritical to say anything negative of McCain later.
I think there is a critical distinction here and that is that these are ads about an association of Obama's not about Obama himself, and one whom Obama has already disassociated himself from.
Obama should still have the right to be critical of McCain's voting record & platform, he should not be allowed to attack him for the statements of others.
Additionally, I'd say that the TV stations who air this ad should largely be held responsible for their role in furthering this kind of mudslinging. I commend WRAL-TV in Raeleigh and WSOC-TV in Charlotte for pulling the ad, and encourage other stations to do the same.
Posted by: MakeSomethingHappen | Apr 25, 2008 12:12:59 PM
Everybody who seems to think Hillary should have spoken up against this ad - I find it incredible that you need to drag her into a republican mess. She has nothing to do with this but you have to make it look like it's her place to say something. Give me a break. If she did say something - you would find fault with that too. Jeesh.
Posted by: Bon53 | Apr 24, 2008 10:18:41 PM
The North Carolina Republican Party is too extreme for North Carolina. Watch the polls.
Posted by: Tom J | Apr 24, 2008 9:35:00 PM
People! I do not care who you vote for. The racial tones that are in our country are horrible. We can not get past it because most of America is racist and is so comfortable with it that they do not even question the things that they speak or write! Go back and read the post on this blog it is disturbing. I am a democrat because I am not in the upper 10% of America financially. I am voting for change and I would not care if it was purple, I am struggling and John Mccain can not do anything to help me nor would he want to since I am considered as middle class.
Posted by: Alma in Atlanta,Ga. | Apr 24, 2008 8:32:49 PM
Just shows McCain has character and Hillary does not.
Posted by: indy_voter | Apr 24, 2008 5:11:16 PM
Obama will never be the candidate of my choice...
But I think a black woman by the name of Oprah Winfrey..... would/could/should cross the race barrier and one day become presidentress
of this great country.
Don't scoff!
She is known and respected throughout the world, and is well versed in protocol.
She runs an enormous company and runs it "in budget' and "on time".
She is neither an empty suit nor a teflon woman.
If she runs next time, I will vote for her!
Meantime, I'll more than happily place my vote for Hillary!
Posted by: eyes open | Apr 24, 2008 3:02:45 PM
In response to Abdullah –
If republicans think Obama is the “weaker” candidate why does Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly, Scarborough, Buchannan, etc. keep pushing Clinton as the one that will win the Democratic Nomination?
Obama was raised by a single mom and had to go to school using student loans. McCain married a beer distributing heiress worth more then $100 million, owns four different homes, was part of tge Keating five, Washington insider for 25+ years. Who is elitist?
“Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong” – James Bryce
If you like what we have had over the past 8 years. McCain is your guy. If you would rather be bogged down in a war with no clear mission. McCain is your guy. If you want the richest 1% and corporations to continue to receive the majority of the tax cuts. McCain is your guy.
Posted by: Brad | Apr 24, 2008 1:53:46 PM
Of course the PA primary turned on race. Does anybody believe that 92% of Black people voted Obama because they like his policies better than Clinton's? Get real. Obama, who wants to be the post-racial candidate, has turned into the ultra-racial candidate. If Black voters were splitting between Obama and Hillary then this might not be such an issue. However, because they are voting almost exclusively for Obama, Obama is very heavily identified with this group. Obviously, this makes White voters nervous.
Posted by: David H | Apr 24, 2008 1:42:02 PM
Obama supporters and the media(matthews and cnn) want to paint this as racism, the vote in PA was due to some degree by racism. The very thought that there are voters who don't like Obama due to his politics and associations(past and present) is completely alien to them. They have traded there personal and journalistic ethics for blanted biased toward there favorite canidate, yet they don't have the guts to say they support him openly. I grew up watching Benard Shaw, Ted Koppel, David Brinkley, and so on....I miss them.
Posted by: Jim | Apr 24, 2008 1:35:06 PM
Better now than later, this is just the coming attractions. And I don't think Clinton has to say anything?
Posted by: Tina D | Apr 24, 2008 1:34:54 PM
MOST MEDIAS HAVE BEEN PRAISED FOR OBAMA, NOW THE REAL PEOPLE TALKING THE TRUTH ABOOUT HIS MASKS.
SHAME ON YOU MEDIAS WHO PROMOTE OBAMA!
Posted by: Abdullah | Apr 24, 2008 12:26:47 PM
KUDO !!!!! TO THE NORTH CAROLINA RNC
Posted by: Abdullah | Apr 24, 2008 12:23:19 PM
BKMC-
The republicans have long since abandoned any so-called strategies to try to assist the "weaker" Democratic candidate.
What we're all hearing is that their antipathy to Obama has to do with his anti-american, divisive and elitist views. They can't wait until the General Election because people would understandably ask, "where were you when this information was fresh and before the public?".
There's also a large number of Republicans - some in my own family - who feel that they don't want Obama and his associations and beliefs getting the kind of national and international exposure that comes during the general election cycle.
It's that patriotism that many republicans genuinely feel for our country. They feel Obama is just too dangerous and extremist.
Posted by: s. valenti | Apr 24, 2008 12:11:30 PM
Gayle I will vote for Obama because of the way he's run his campaign. To me that's an indicator of how this country would be run.
Posted by: erin | Apr 24, 2008 12:03:15 PM
You failed to sufficiently cover the fact that this ad is in support of local republican candidates running against democrats that supported Obama.
Why should Clinton condemn the ad - if the Republican chair didn't listen to John McCain (their Republican candidate) and pull the ad, why in the world would they listen to Hillary Clinton?
Posted by: s. valenti | Apr 24, 2008 12:03:04 PM
In the end people will vote AGAINST Obama because we dont want a left wing radical and unpatriotic couple in our White House. His flame is going out fast.
Posted by: Gayle In Oregon | Apr 24, 2008 11:58:57 AM
Hear that gurgling noise ? That is life, as the average person in the USA has known it, going down the tubes ! And what are they doing about it ? Zero ! Well, you deserve what you ask for !
Posted by: haveaniceday | Apr 24, 2008 11:58:48 AM
Nancy and Mariann Pepitone, nobody can reunify and reinvigorate the republican base like Hillary as the nominee. That is why Rush, Hannity, Fox&Friends, OReilly and Foxnews are pushing for her to be the nominee. She is the easiest target for them to beat. Hill has a lot of skelettons in the closets, that is a fact. She is not a strong leader and has no managerial skills looking at how she organized her campaign which should still be in the red now. Somebody who cannot run a campaign how would you give to her the destiny of the greatest nation on earth? Hill, the Bosnian General, has to leave the context and help Obama to beat McCain as a drum. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | Apr 24, 2008 11:11:52 AM
Mariann, I had to laugh at your statement to Vanessa. I somehow doubt the people that don't like Hillary are jealous of her. I think it's a little more than that lol
Posted by: lulu | Apr 24, 2008 10:54:06 AM
Nancy: You are so right about Obama. Obama never like white people as a young boy and he doesn't now. He needs their votes to win and in the states of MN,SC & WI they gave him the win. When will the white people ever wake up to the fact that he is using them for his own advantage to make history like MLK. Obama never went to the southside of Chicago to meet the families who lost their children to gun violence. He doesn't care about them he cares only about himself. He lives in Hyde Park next the Ayers who went underground because of his bombing. His pastor has hated the white people since time. Pastor's are suppose to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ not politics. Obama knew this when he attended that church. I view Obama as anti-american and a racist. The voters in IN and NC better wake up to this fact.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Apr 24, 2008 10:52:00 AM
This is a brilliant move by McCain. This ad now moves into prime time replay, McCain looks like the "I'm above this kind of nonsense" kind of candidate, and of course the NC Republican party is going to keep the ad anyway, because McCain knows it's none of his business what ads they use. NICE MOVE, MCCAIN!
Posted by: Rick | Apr 24, 2008 10:45:39 AM
Vanessa: That's good that the republicans want Hillary because Hillary can beat McCain at his game. With Obama as nominee McCain would get a landslide. If you think the battleground states would vote for Obama you better think again. Hillary's voters would switch to McCain. Get a grip. You better listen to the news more often. Those states that voted for Hillary didn't want Obama to begin that's why they didn't vote for him. I know there are many Hillary haters on the internet but that's evident, the Clinton's accomplished their goals in life and made their millions that way. Jealousy doesn't get you anywhere it just eats into you. And that's what is happening to the Hillary haters on the internet. These people probably set their goals and couldn't accomplish them and they dislike those that did.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Apr 24, 2008 10:44:34 AM
Iona: Who hasn't seen the AD. I think its great and it tells the truth about Obama. You are well aware of the facts about Obama because they were told on the internet and George brought one out at the debate. Obama did not choose the right people to associate with. If your not anti-american yourself why then would you associate with Ayers, the underground dog who was wanted by the Feds, a pastor that is racist, anti-american and hates white people. Its bad enough he associated with Farrakhan and Rezko. Obama may have you fooled but the battleground states that didn't vote for him weren't fooled by his copied speeches of RFK with RFK's word of hope. Obama is a liar and a fake and its the majority of the college students of today that are voting for him because he is in their class of booze and drugs.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Apr 24, 2008 10:34:52 AM
First McCain was wrong for criticizing the ad for 3 reasons
1- It was not an ad for his presidency
2- It was truthful
3- Is not Obama playing ads criticizing McCain's age?
Is Obama going to tell Soros not to use the 50 million + dollars they have on the side to attack McCain?
Is Obama going to tell Moveon, Daily kooks, media matters, NYT, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC and other liberal organizations to not say negative about McCain.
There is a difference between Liberal ads and Republicans the ones from Republican are based on true facts, the ones from libs are outright lies!
As already seen from the NYT and CBS!!
Posted by: spock | Apr 24, 2008 9:51:03 AM
PP, you wrote: "...in this plan you can keep your own insurance you have now."
A couple of months ago, during one of the debates in which Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama were detailing their respective health care plans, Sen. Clinton made a very bold statement. She stated that those individuals who are pleased with their current medical insurance can keep that insurance..."For Now." She actually said, "For Now."
The discussion of 47 million people being uninsured is just a complete ruse. Both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama detest private medical insurance. They both want to eventually do away with private medical insurance and replace it with a Medicare like bureaucracy. But they are also keenly aware that eliminating private medical insurance cannot occur overnight. That it must be a gradual transition. But their ultimate goal is for a complete federal government takeover of our medical healthcare system.
Posted by: James Danley | Apr 24, 2008 9:40:56 AM
Why should Hillary Clinton step into this????
Obama chose Wright, and for some people, that is an issue. Obama must demonstrate that he can refute the issue effectively. More importantly, he must show that he can stand on his own. If he wants to win, he cant rely on Hillary as a foil and he certainly cant rely on her to defend him.
Anyone who thinks that we would not see this kind of stuff (and much worse) in the general election is living in the Obamasphere. Let's get real.
Posted by: Nancy | Apr 24, 2008 9:32:58 AM
Yes...Hillary is behind this too - she's behind everything isn't she.
1) It's not her ad
2) The ad has nothing to do with the Presidential Primary - the Republicans have other nefarious purposes for running the ad.
3) Get a clue
Posted by: LuB | Apr 24, 2008 9:17:19 AM
Lisa who wrote
"I want to know what each candidate will do for me"
You should vote for Obama then. He is the Socialist candidate.
Posted by: geevill | Apr 24, 2008 9:07:19 AM
I don't care about the whole context of Rev.Wright's sermon. The truth is he damns rich white people then moves into a multi-million dollar home in a white neighborhood.
And even if he only said "GD America" one time and blamed 9/11 on us one time then that is unacceptable to me.
And this is who Obama looks up to for 20 years?
Obama insults our intelligence by saying he never heard the sermons, DVD's,newsletters. Some can ignore this.
But I have to look at myself in the mirror everyday and I will not have any part of putting this man in the White House. America deserves better.
Posted by: cindy | Apr 24, 2008 8:39:06 AM
wake up call
it has moved from being an "issue" as you say to a distraction...
Obama is trying to cut through 15 years of branding as the only game in town by the Clintons... McCain knows this is a distraction...
McCain knows more than any other issue these politics are hurting the country
too bad that clinton and her supporters don't realize that...
but I guess that is the problem with this country clintons bushes cheneys etc... all add up to the game for a bunch of rich people to play when they are not at the country club...
get off the low-level human debate...
we are a better country than that...
atleast two of these candidates are acting like Presidents. Hillary should join them but unfortunately to join this conversation she is lacking quite a bit of character.
The worst fall out of those from the "me" generation.
Posted by: dl | Apr 24, 2008 8:05:47 AM
Hillary will soon move on from making history to being history ! Where is that iron ?
Posted by: Go Hillary | Apr 24, 2008 5:15:43 AM
Have we returned to a McCarthyesque world? Guilt by association is selling again? Now it’s guilt by association twice removed? What a shell game…and we’ll all be conned if we buy into it.
About Wright, do some of you even know anything beyond the out-of-context snippets on TV? Do you know the complete text of the sermons, and therefore the fuller meaning? Try this article from the Christian Science Monitor called, “Did Obama’s Pastor Preach Hate?”
By no means do I condone the wrong-headed, harsh, and hurtful statements in question, but what arrogance and, if you’re Christian, how un-Christian to judge a man’s lifework based on a minute of footage! And how illogical and unfair to judge a man by another man’s statements!
By this guilt-by-association measure, McCain is very guilty: He sought out and said he was “very honored” to receive John Hagee’s endorsement. Hagee, if you’re not aware, refers to the Catholic Church as “the whore of Babylon, "The Great Whore," an "apostate church," a "false cult system," and "the "anti-Christ." He preaches a far-out Scriptural prophecy that espouses a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to bring about Armageddon. Google it.
Then there’s Rod Parsley and his extreme views. McCain, who stood beside the evangelical minister at a 2/26/08 Cincinnati rally, said, "I am very honored today to have one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide…thank you for your leadership and your guidance."
Among Parsley’s extreme fundamentalist views: there should be no separation between church and state in this country; “Allah was a demon spirit" and there is no difference between violent Islamic extremists and other followers of Islam; and “…America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed.”
It seems to me the Republican smear machine has lost the “Obama equals Wright” argument. After all, McCain only “speaks out against” Hagee's bizarre anti-Catholic rants but still "admires and respects Dr. Hagee’s leadership of his Church" and he’s still glad that he sought out, received, and accepted Hagee's endorsement. McCain sought out and accepted Parsley's endorsement.
I shouldn’t forget: Remember the Keating Five?
CONTINUED ABOVE.
Posted by: JustConsider | Apr 24, 2008 4:45:31 AM
iona, the article clearly says that the north carolina REPUBLICAN party did the ad - do you think hillary somehow controls the repubs? puleeze!!!
Posted by: so saddened | Apr 24, 2008 2:23:39 AM
of course they blame hillary for someone else's ad. they blame hillary for global warming, warm beer, cold eggs, whatever. funny how they don't blame obama when others attack hillary.
mccain is no idiot - condemn the ads, look like a good guy. the ads run anyway. same thing obama does all the time - pretend to be a good guy, have surrogates trash hillary. obamaites love it when hillary's the target, but somehow not so much when their guy's on the receiving end.
get used to it, politics is tough.
oops, forgot, obama's too weak for this, won't even debate any more now that his weakness was exposed, we should give him a break. sorry, not happening.
Posted by: so saddened | Apr 24, 2008 2:21:48 AM
Clinton desperation is clearly showing. Do you really believe that she hasn't seen the ad?
Perhaps she doesn't have the class to recognize a clear example that
Mcain displayed?
Posted by: Iona | Apr 24, 2008 2:03:22 AM
"This morning I asked three different communications officers of the Clinton campaign for comment on the TV ad." jpt
--------------------------------------
Why didn't you ask Barack Obama and/or his campaign for comment on the TV ad?
Jeremiah Wright will certainly continue to be an issue in the general election if Barack Obama should win the nomination.
Posted by: wake up call | Apr 24, 2008 1:11:19 AM
NcCain is a tactical genuis...By the way when you condemn something it just gives it more play.
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 24, 2008 1:06:36 AM
Maybe she's still waiting for Obama to condemn the Spanish ads run by 527's in Nevada against Clinton. Give me a break.
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 24, 2008 1:05:11 AM
Give Hillary time...maybe she hasn't seen the ad yet. I'm not sure if she needs to get involved in NC gobernatorial race. This is Republicans as usual.....Ads tying Obama supporters to Wright's views are going to be popping up all over the country.
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 24, 2008 1:03:14 AM
In the end people will vote AGAINST Obama because we dont want a left wing radical and unpatriotic couple in our White House. His flame is going out fast.
Posted by: Gayle In Oregon | Apr 24, 2008 1:00:53 AM
In the America of former generations, people like BO wouldn't be where he is. Not because of racism, but because all of his criminal connections would make him ineligible.
In other words, people don't like the ad because the truth hurts--and the truth shall set us free.
Posted by: april | Apr 24, 2008 12:26:30 AM
pms- you would have heard of their spiritual advisors if their advisors had used anti-black, anti-africa, etc. comments from the pulpit.
adam,
bho cannot win the general election. first, calculate delegates as done in the general election, winner-take-all, and hillary would have amassed 1800+ delegates to bho 1100+...that is an indication of his run against mccain.
i will vote hillary or mccain, as i do not want a racist, un american, unpatriotic, person in the white house.
Posted by: pp | Apr 24, 2008 12:22:24 AM
Disclaimer: Black woman (originally an Edwards supporter who switched after the Wright controversy)
Now to state the obvious: The inherent racism of an ad featuring Rev. Wright is that Black people are not some kind of monolithic being who can't think for themselves. I go to church to hear about God. Not form political ideologies. Hearing a speech does not make me a supporter of that speech, it makes me open-minded. Obama, a half white man, is most likely open minded, but if he states that he disagrees with Wright's speech, why does the public feel that the black half can't be that smart? I have yet to meet anyone who knows the names of McCain's or Hill's "spiritual advisors".
Posted by: pms | Apr 24, 2008 12:14:58 AM
lisa,
plans are not he same. to name a few differences:
1-there are no alliances(co=ops) like there were in 1993. in this plan you can keep your own insurance you have now.
2- no new bureaucracy would be set up, as proposed last time, to set up benefits
3- this time does not require small business owners to cover their workers
4- this time, by giving uninsured people tax breaks and incentives, it would make health care affordable to all.........
Posted by: pp | Apr 23, 2008 11:54:23 PM
"Oh Belle I love Edwards. I can't understand why no one else did. He was my first choice"
Visualize voting for Democratic Party nominee John Edwards, and WINNING General Election.
If that doesn't work out, join the zillions of Democrats who will vote for Ralph Nader -- who endorsed Edwards -- or for Cynthia McKinney, the Green Party candidate.
Oh: and if you're young enough to consider emigrating to Canada, be sure to have a passport, at least, before November.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 23, 2008 11:44:04 PM
LOL April, go back to Rush.
Posted by: ll | Apr 23, 2008 11:42:04 PM
I normally vote Republican, but I am voting for Hillary. She has won me back over to the liberal side because of her genuine expressed concern for the country's well being; her strength; and her detailed plans for how to get things done.
If some other politician wishes to point out BO's significant character flaws, then more power to them, and thank God for them. Our country is much too important to us to take chances, and BO is risky...
Posted by: april | Apr 23, 2008 11:40:05 PM
psst p, it is the same plan. It won't work. Why are you trying to whisper.
Posted by: lisa | Apr 23, 2008 11:37:51 PM
lisa,
pssst...it is not the same plan.....
Posted by: pp | Apr 23, 2008 11:32:42 PM
What doesn't make any sense. Hillary's healthcare plan failed and she wants us to believe it will work now. Her plan just does not work, nor does Obama's for that matter.
Posted by: lisa | Apr 23, 2008 11:25:54 PM
lisa, that makes absolutely no sense! is that an argument?
Posted by: pp | Apr 23, 2008 11:19:52 PM
Oh Belle I love Edwards. I can't understand why no one else did. He was my first choice
Posted by: lisa | Apr 23, 2008 11:18:21 PM
Sorry pp, I have no faith in Hillary. What if she was are pres back then when this plan went down. She would have been toast.
Posted by: lisa | Apr 23, 2008 11:15:57 PM
"I want to hear about the issues. My husband is out of a job and we are hurting. I want to know what each canidate will do for me. What is wrong with that."
Nothing's wrong with that -- except that brainy populist John Edwards is the only Democratic candidate with the backbone to address the REAL predicament of the un-rich, which is getting more dangerous every day.
Clinton and Obama are nearly identical on the "issues", and both too timid by far -- that's why they don't say much ABOUT issues. This is a rhetorical beauty contest between two candidates, each of whom is hated by half the country.
Pray for the Democrats to nominate John Edwards.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 23, 2008 11:13:54 PM
lisa,
that plan was 15 years ago...things do change...and grow/develop with time...
Posted by: pp | Apr 23, 2008 11:12:45 PM
I never said the ad had to do with Hillary but she should have comdemed it. And you talk about judgement. What about Hillary's failed healthcare plan.
Posted by: lisa | Apr 23, 2008 11:09:08 PM
so did Hillary try out for the nunnery in evansville indiana in 1979 for two weeks or not
Posted by: kravitz | Apr 23, 2008 11:08:51 PM
You know what Jake? Did you contact the Obama campaign too or are they mum about it as well?
Why should Hillary say something? Barack's a big boy -- if he has a problem with it, then he should say something.
How is it that EVERYTHING that happens in this election cycle somehow loops back to Clinton?
Posted by: LOM | Apr 23, 2008 11:06:07 PM
Alzach--you assert that "Hillary's silence speaks a great deal about her lack of character." You Obamaniacs complain when Hillary addresses Wright and when she is mum on Wright. The real telling silence is Obama's. Obama sat in the pew for 20 years while Wright railed against "evil white Americans" and "middleclassness." And don't insult my intelligence by claiming that Obama didn't know--a quick look at the church website, or even the stuff that Obama mentions in his book, was enough to alarm me. This guy will be president when hell freezes over!
Posted by: Nancy | Apr 23, 2008 11:05:28 PM
lisa,
the ad does not speak to the issues, but does address judgement, character, "uniter/inclusiveness."
AND, hillary is the candidate...bill and monica were not her doing, and whitewater, 40 million dollars later, was determined to be a non-issue.
the ad was done by the RNC making it perhaps necessary for mccain to address. it has no relation to hillary.
Posted by: pp | Apr 23, 2008 11:01:20 PM
Geevil, that ad only makes me want to not vote. I am sick of the negativity of the democratic process. I want to hear about the issues. My husband is out of a job and we are hurting. I want to know what each canidate will do for me. What is wrong with that.
Posted by: lisa | Apr 23, 2008 11:00:33 PM
"I am a dem and am sick of the negative campaigning. I want to hear what they will do for me and for this country."
Hmm ... like that genial "compassionate conservative" crap by which the neocons, with cute-but-insecure George Junior serving as the attractive figurehead for a crew of full-tilt fascists? The adjustable Mr. Obama, the passive "post-partisan" run by Kerry, Daschle, et al., could facilitate more of the same.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 23, 2008 10:55:26 PM
Lisa,
then the ad is very ineffective and a waste of money right?
Erin,
I still don't understand your point. Wright is not Clinton's pastor (of 20 years), did not perform her marriage rites and doesn't really concern her.
Posted by: geevill | Apr 23, 2008 10:53:10 PM
The ad has nothing to do with issues...economy, the war, foreclosers on homes, healthcare. I want to hear about what affects me. I don't want to hear about Obama's pastor or Bill and Monica or whitewater. I want to hear how they will HELP me and my family
Posted by: lisa | Apr 23, 2008 10:47:19 PM
Oops: Olbermann and Maddow should be "muzzled" (not "puzzled), I meant to say . . .
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 23, 2008 10:46:53 PM
pp: I agree. Obama fans are crying about an ad that depicts Obama's racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual adviser," Rev. Wright. If Obama didn't want to be associated with such a crude and hateful man, he shouldn't have attended his church for 20 years, considered him his mentor and spiritual adviser, and appointed him to one of his election committees. I remember when Obama was asked about Wright before anyone knew about him, he said that there is "nothing controversial at all" about him or his church. Well, if Wright is such a nice and non-controversial figure, why is everyone upset that he is starring in a commercial. Obama fans can't have it both ways. They've been defending Wright constantly in order to defend their messiah. As such, they should be happy to see this "wonderful man" who has "done so much for the community" on television. It should only help Obama, right?:
Posted by: Fred | Apr 23, 2008 10:46:27 PM
Why in the world should Clinton get involved with Obama's family business. That is his "uncle" Wright not hers.
Posted by: geevill | Apr 23, 2008 10:44:34 PM
"We must do whatever we can to stop Obama and his radical supporters from hijacking the Democratic Party (much like Bush and the far-right have dominated the Republican Party for the last 8 years)."
Anybody who supports Obama in hope of his doing anything "radical" to disturb the prosperity pyramid and perma-war the Republicans have put in place is, based on Obama's previous political performances, whistling in the dark.
He really IS a fraud. Stopping him just as soon as possible is a very good idea. He couldn't buy the PA primary -- even with John Kerry's rich wife rallying with Mrs. Obama. Maybe he can't buy North Carolina and Indiana EITHER. Now, that'd be nice ...
(Just now on msnbc, Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann are screaming at each other about how much the Republicans want Clinton to be the nominee. These people should be ashamed of themselves. Or be fired. Or at least puzzled.)
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 23, 2008 10:44:03 PM
what is wrong with the ad? he was there for 20 years as parishner, and friend. by attending the church, he has tacitly agreed with the tenets of the church and wright...or he should have left.
Posted by: pp | Apr 23, 2008 10:40:47 PM
geevill, I won't vote for a republican. I am a loyal dem. But I do admire McCain for the stance he took. I just wish Hillary would have done the same
Posted by: erin | Apr 23, 2008 10:40:21 PM
I like Hillary, but her tactics are useless and I am surprised that no one has yet pointed out why. She runs a negative campaign which has lost her superdelegates -- 100 have endorsed Obama vs 9 or 10 for Hill since Super Tuesday. Hillary began in Pa polls 25 point ahead of Obama, but lost support to the tune of 15 points within a month to win by only 10 points. By not condemning personal and distorted ads against Obama that John McCain and the RNC are condemning, she is encouraging her supporters to vituperate Barack Obama with messages of hate and distortion as shown in the above comments -- they get downright disgusting -- and Hillary is responsible for engendering this hatred by not speaking out against it.
Posted by: Nikolai | Apr 23, 2008 10:40:12 PM
erin,
then vote for McCain in November.
Posted by: geevill | Apr 23, 2008 10:37:03 PM
NO it's not Hillary's fault for the ads. But these negative ads need to stop on both sides. I am a dem and am sick of the negative campaigning. I want to hear what they will do for me and for this country. McCain has steped up to condemn them. Hillary won't because she's hoping it will benefit her. Her negatives are so high this will only hurt her further
Posted by: erin | Apr 23, 2008 10:34:47 PM
or why doesn't Obama just scratch his face again? which he did twice to Hillary. and I guess most agree Obama is such a wuss that Clinton has to fight his battles for him.
Posted by: geevill | Apr 23, 2008 10:32:11 PM
Ksam,
His stance of I was against the war before I had to vote for it, isn't impressive. He has at least 20 votes that either fund the war, support those profitting from it, or the people who lied to get us into it.
A freeze on a gas taxes would only stop funds from going into the highway fund. It would give Americans a break on the rising price, and help businesses re-coup losses from the 50% increase in prices just this year.
Several airlines have already gone bankrupt within the same week. And food prices are going to be going up even higher, because the trucking industry will no longer subsidize the fuel prices that clearly will not go down.
As it stands now the trucking industry gets between 20% to 32% of each load to help defray the cost of fuel. Depending upon the state the load starts it's journey.
The issue of the deficit being kicked up isn't an issue because like I said the taxes on fuel go into the highway fund. If anything as the tax burden is decreased people will have more disposable money to spend. That tax revenue still has nothing to do with the deficit however.
The issue of liquidity and interest rates, well lowered interest rates actually creates inflation because of an increase in money supply. Which devalues money that we already have in the market place, bank accounts, 401ks, etc. Which is why so many are against the Fed reducing rates and the resulting decrease in the value of the dollar. The liquidity issue is now only going to help banks and investment banks, as the newspapers have repeatly stated. The banks have been helping themselves to the new Fed ATM, but not passing on that cheap money to the people. So, liquidity has nothing to do with the fuel taxes either, but the credit crunch and deregulation.
And on your point that it is her way or the highway. Hillary has already proven that she can work with people she has had major disagreement with, take Scaife for example the man who went after them in the 90s. He has now endorsed Hillary.
Posted by: Cali girl | Apr 23, 2008 10:31:51 PM
Like you think Obama would refrain from a negative ad against Hillary? Come on. It's about time this game comes to an end with Obama. He may have fooled you or you simply weren't getting the messages out there but people are getting it. The worst part is that it's true and this is the guy people were voting for early on, granted the old "consider the source" applies when looking where the votes came from.
Posted by: CM | Apr 23, 2008 10:30:47 PM
"Everyone knows the Republican want Hillary."
Oh: because they SAY so? Riiight.
If Obama'd decided to run the Rev. Wright ad himSELF, it wouldn't be much of a surprise: it puts him in the "victim of racism" column again -- or WOULD have, if Clinton had gone for denouncing it.
Clinton sweet-talks Obama too much, as it is, when they're face to face. At least she's not going for it long-distance.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 23, 2008 10:29:00 PM
Oh I see, It's Clinton's fault the RNC is running an ad against Obama. Vanessa, "