Political Punch

Yes. Excuse those of us whose urban communities are plagued by weapons fire and dead children to be too busy grieving over their loss than to grieve over the gun rights of a minority of persons which might be lost through more efficient gun control.

I've never been shot at, but I've twice seen other people trying to kill each other with guns. One time successfully. I remember every second of both incidents in vivid detail.

There is no way someone as smart as Hillary could have poor recall about being "under sniper fire".

She didn't misspeak. She told a lie.

A bragging lie. The kind of lie that decent people learn not to tell before the get out of high school.

Being in a life threatening, violent situation is and experience you've either had or not had. I'd vote for someone with or without that experience. I will NEVER vote for someone who would lie about something so important.

Small-town folks in PA voting for
Clinton are untutored masochists asking for 25 more years of joblessness.

It is true that small-town folks in PA can't make an informed decision.

Why would anybody in those towns even bother to show up to hear HRC - a thoroughly discredited candidate?

Obama has lost his moejoe!
The gig is up!!!
We are really getting to know the Obama that we do not know!
Beter now than in the White House
His friends:
WRIGHT, FARRAKHAN AND NOW WE JUST FOUND OUT WILLIAM AYERS...SCARY!!

"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone…And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

This is what he said...does he really need to explain...do you really want the MSM cutting this down to "bitter" or "cling" Read this and decide what it means...don't believe the spin!

I kind of though we were "post racial" until Obama pointed out the racism in Hillary and Bill and Ferraro...forgave it in Wright and now is describing it all across small town America...Nice to have a moral compass that appears to be taking America back thirty years...

This election should be about the future...I resent the consistant effort to make this election about apologisizing to Blacks for slavery or Jim Crow.

I have a bi-racial grandson that has never experienced the prejudice that Obama's campaign injected into this campaign...Although I think it was his campaign's decision seeing as how he was constantly denying that he felt that way. When they made that decision America started to get ugly...and trust me no amount of Hollywood insiders or MSM spinners is going to fix this.

I do not want my grandson to have to experience the "new politics" that are pretty hopeless...The blogs are a reflection of a new anger on the streets. And as a middle aged white woman that hasn't really seen this before I don't care for it all.

this whole thing would be long gone except for the media looking to make a story about everything.

Let's talk more about Bush/Cheney as war criminals and forget about over interpreting all this stuff.

Perhaps it's a good thing that Obama is pretty much a clear slate. His wacky supporters are free to project their own biases, sociological and demographic junk science.

Give it a rest people. IT'S WHERE HE MADE THE REMARKS THAT IS SINKING HIM. Heretofore, what had he communicated during that big bus trip throughout Pennsylvania that would give people the sense that he had picked up on their frustration AND HAD PLANS TO ADDRESS IT!

gotcha!!!!!!!!

When Hillary Clinton flew to Bosnia, she stepped outside her comfort zone - and the comfort zone of most of us. There had been danger there - it was a war zone. She deserves credit for traveling there.

Obama meanwhile, from the safety of the US Capitol building couldn't even hold a meeting of his Afghanistan sub-committee.- Though of course the chairmanship of the committee sure looks good on his resume.

How many examples do we need of Obama promoting appearance over substance.

I was watching c-span Sunday and there was a reporter on from Politico. A caller asked the question, "why isn't anyone talking about Hillary Clinton's fraud trial in California." Well, he never even acknowledged the question. He went to a totally different subject. By not talking about it, the media is clearly showing bias for her, but I'm sure that Fox news will be all over it f she becomes a threat. The case is Peter Paul vs Hillary Clinton.

Mudcat must not be all that smart. I'm from a rural area in the midwest. Believe me when I say this, you don't EVER insult someone's religion and get away with it. There will be a HUGE price to pay for that humdinger. And I believe Obama pretty much topped his insult off with a heaping helping of calling everyone a bigot as well. Ooooh!! That won't play very well in Small Town USAl!! My husband's hairdresser is furious, and says her customers are just as mad. I don't think Mudcat knows squat!!!

Clark Jackson wrote: I just don't get it. Obama's remarks are basically correct. I know 'cause I'm a small town guy from PA. What's the big deal here?

The Big deal are: you lost your job and cling to gun to kill people. you hate immigrant, and you antisemitism and agree like Rev Wright said god damn America.

You small towm people scare a lot of elite californian marrin County.

Exactly, 'urban renewal' killed San Francisco's Jazz clubs and black owned businesses....and that is who Obama courted. The same monied interests that killed the Jazz scene on the West Coast and on Fillmore St. There is a PBS Documentary on it...all the greats played in SF.

So, I say. NO...shame on you OBAMA!

Speaking to the people who gutted black history while laughing about gutting what gives PA their history, since you are against firearms. Is being a typical hypocritical elitist....

"People may be angry that the government is failing,but they do not CLING to their GUNS and/or RELIGION because of their anger/bitterness towards government!"

John,

Your quote reminded me, under that Violent Radicalization Bill....he kinda called them domestic terrorists. If he can flip the switch on what others say, so can we. ;)

Bitter with guns, religion, and the Constitution, with the desire to keep their guns and mad at the world, small town PA, could be charged under his false description of them.

Geez...whatta a guy! He reminds me of Bush everyday.

The sad thing this supposedly Democratic year is that the democrats will vote on emotional issues rather that the main issues that affect the welfare of our country; like health care, economy, jobs, costly wars. Many will not be willing to put their selfish desires aside to help better this country,who cares about the issues anymore after all this is america.We should never wonder why republicans win elections.

Dems for the white house!
yes we can!

Hillary Clinton is a liability tn the Democratic Party. Dems will cut their losses and Unite behind Obama.

Obama all the way!

Excellent post by John Baer... that commercial media is again distracting from real issues by perverting Obama's remarks as anti-working class when they are in fact the opposite of that; he is decrying the use of wedge issues to hammer us workers for the last 30 years.
Dianne Foster, night-shift RN

Hillary's Bosnia comments were not a "gaffe" they were self serving bald faced LIES! They insulted the command of Task Force Eagle and implied that the soldiers there jeopardized the wife and CHILD of the president by not securing the base.

A compulsive liar is not qualified to lead the free world. A liar that throws her military officers under the bus for her own benefit is beyond the pale.

There is no comparison here and for the main stream media to continue to play dumb on this is a betrayal of the free press.

Hillary was talking about herself and it wasn't in a "war".

Obama was sneering at real Americans behind their backs at a snooty fundraiser in SF.

Please spare us the absurd spin. Obama supporters can't handle the truth, which is he is unelectable in November.

As a rural American of professional background, living just across the state line from NW Pa., I think most of us "get" Obama's insight into rural American. He is trying to elevate our politics to a level of honesty, truth, and sincerity and thoughtful discussion......to move us beyond the place of polarization in which we have been stuck for far too long, wasting our energy and rhetoric on everything but the important issues needed to move America toward solutions. The problem with Hillary is that she contributes to this polarization by making issues out of nothing in an effort to distract us from what is important... in an effort to manipulate voters..appealing to what is worst about us not what is best..which is itself, an elitist attitude that assumes we are stupid. Well, we aren't that stupid and we are tired of the condescension she represents. This lastest attack on Obama's sincere insight (which most informed people understand is correct) is but one more example of her unethical and immoral tactics to win by any means necessary, even at the expense of truth. For Clinton, the ends justifies the means....and, as I recall this approach is basic to communist philosophy......for Obama the means determines the ends. Those of us who want new outcomes and progress toward the solutions to our countries many challenges....we cannot afford a president for whom winning trumps truth.

People are bitter all over, not just in the small towns. Why is it assumed that the working class live in small town PA? The working class folks of America are living in big cities and small towns, spinning their wheels while they prop up America's rich. No matter what comments come out of the mouth of either candidate, I can't understand why nobody in America is upset they can lose their home if they get a serious illness and insurance won't pay. Issues like these should be questioned, yet all that comes out in the media is a he said-she said argument over stupid stuff.

Obviously, Mrs. Clinton is not smart in criticizing Mr. Obama. With her criticism, this issue will become once again a non-issue for him.
It seems that the press and people like to pound on her more. I wonder what will happen if she is not campaigning anymore. This is when, we may be exposed to Mr.Obama's weakness and inconsistencies in detail.
Here is a man replete with inconsistencies - one has to read his books and campaign speeches on Rev. Wright, trade, religion, Muslims etc.. It is clear with his different postures for different folks that he has an (unsaid) agenda for America.

Only God can bless and protect this country from
people running for the Oval Office who are committed to other nations and continents!

Patty at Home

And Obama doesn't lie?

Here's just one of many:
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The lie: Barack Obama Claims He’s Not “Pro-Abortion,” Abortion Not a “Good Thing”

The Truth: Barack Obama has voted against every limit on abortion as a member of the U.S. Senate — including repeated votes against making sure taxpayers aren’t forced to pay for abortions here or overseas. But Obama told the media on Friday that no one, including him, is pro-abortion.

Hillary learnt a terrible lesson from the Bill days when america stood behind Bill, in spite of his lies in having sex with an intern in the White House. She misunderstood that to mean americans are gullible and cannot see through lies.

She has been so fake on the campaign, her every word calculated to deceive, he pandering so predictable that she really will not only lose this election but also her potential as a future leader

So, Obama's apologists are once again telling us 'what he meant to say'. What's new about this?

I hope no one is fooled by this scripted routine by the Clintons. President Clinton and Senator Hillary Clinton are no fools and his reviving this issue is no accident but a calculated risk/scheme to use the same tactics allegedly used by the out going president of Taiwan. It is alleged he hired someone to shoot him in the leg because he felt he would loose the elections. He won that election with the sympathy vote. President Clinton sensing his wife's defeat, in desperation, is sighting his wife's age and fatigue for her vivid inaccuracies of the event is merely a plot for the sympathy vote for the tired old woman (Hillary) at 60. It worked in Taiwan. The timing of President Clinton's apparently naive but foxy move is no accident. The effect of Senator Obama resent intentionally misunderstood comments plus Hillary's premature senility can be greater then the sum of the two. We are very fortunate that we can see through this and not be fooled by this gimmick. They cannot be trusted. Make me worry about that 3am phone call.

Mainstream media (includes you Jake) is trying real hard! to give this story some legs.

Since Friday afternoon, there have been 12 stories that Jake has posted to his blog. 11 of them have been regarding the bitterness/cling story. I wonder how many stories (blog posts) you did when the sniper story broke. I guess I could look it up, but I am lazy...kinda like all the pundits who are attacking this non-story; i.e. understanding the context of Obama's comments.

Obama was answering a question presented by a woman that was headed out to rural PA to do some volunteer work for the campaign. She was concerned about what kind of reception she was going to receive knocking on doors. Obama then went on to say in a very sympathetic manner, the "why" of how she may experience some potentially frustrated PA voters. And that's the so called big gaffe.

In an Answer to a Question about small-town America Barack answered in earnest and with thoughtfullness: "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone…And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

What Barack meant in Essence, which is the Clear-Cold Truth, unlike Hillary's Bosnia Fabrication and Continuing Performances, Small America, due to a loss of jobs producing frustration and bitterness and time on their hands, similarly to the Negros in Slavery time, who turned to Religion & Music for an outlet, small-town Americans turn to Religion, Hunting & yes, some blame of the current conditions on Immigrants when they should be turning their blame on Politicians who allow employers to higher immigrants for a much lower wage than Americans would go for. He never said religion or hunting (music) were bad, because people tun to them for an outlet when they have lost hope in their government and with extra time on their hands and in a way to channel their frustration and bitterness. The Wording could have been better, however I am sure this was due to Barack being tired and on the campaign trail for over 15 months. What he could have said instead, which are synonyms for bitter are that People are Resentful, experiencing Pain, and Prolonged Discomfort, due to harsh and painful economic conditions. However, the fact that McCain, Clinton and others are trying to take a poor choice of words and to make nothing into something-- blowing it out of proportion -- and playing politics as usual, is despicable. People in small-town America have experienced a loss of jobs in a greater degree and opportunity that Cities, with very little to look forward to and time on their hands other than to go to church, hunt, and visit their local tavern, and for the young, many join the Military, and so many small town Americans have become bitter and disillusioned. Obama never stated that it was wrong that they turned to Religion and Guns due to time on their hands and a loss of hope, culture, plays, theaters, etc., they for an outlet turned to religion and guns.

In a larger picture, people in general all over America, are bitter over high gas prices, increased food prices, loss of jobs and hope, high education costs, increased mortgage costs and foreclosure, loss of jobs that leave the country and move to India and/or China, and as hard as it is to say, some people are bitter over immigration and the loss of jobs due to companies hiring immigrants for a much lower wage than Americans would go for -- in an America that does not resemble the one we used to know and believe in. We have even lost the respect and admiration of other countries around the world due to the demise of the America we love and believe in. As Barack points out, we should not blame the Immigrants but the policies that have caused this chaos.

America, we have to ask ourselves, which is more eggrecious, a politician telling us the hard truth, the things we may not want to hear but need to hear OR a politician telling us a Fantasy/Lie, like the Bosnia Sniper Fire fabrication and PERFORMANCE, things we did not need to hear because not Truth, and which is a betrayal of the public trust and a deeply flawed Character Issue. There was a time that politicians was the most Honest Game in town -- George Washington, Honest Abe, Thomas Jefferson these are just a few examples, but they were men of high ethics and moral character who would not dare to tell the public a bold face ... for their own personal gain, it just was not done. And to say that Obama is an elitist, is like coloring Sen. Kerry a deserter, which they tried and was somewhat successful at, and look where it got us, into a war that should never have been waged and a host of other woes that only True Change from the bottom-up can Transform. I hope the people will see through Clinton and McCain's politicking, Distorting and twisting his words and Message for their own political gain and rally to Obama's aide who in all honesty is trying to Change Washington from a Power Broker to Power People, because in the end it will be the people's voice and votes that matter.

People may be angry that the government is failing,but they do not CLING to their GUNS and/or RELIGION because of their anger/bitterness towards government!

ANOTHER CLINTON FIB? Reacting indignantly two questions about her recent gun and church experience, Sen. Clinton told CNN that a press query about the last time she fired a gun or attended church services "is not a relevant question in this debate...we can answer that some other time...this is about what people feel is being said about them. I went to church on Easter. I mean, so??"

Well, not so fast, Hillary. Easter Sunday was one of three days you spent at home in Chapaqqua with nothing on the public schedule. We do know, however, from Mark Halperin's The Page, that you left the house Sunday afternoon to have Easter lunch with Bill and Chelsea and her boyfriend at Blue Hlll Farm on the old Rockefeller estate about thirty minutes away. What service did you go to in Chappaqua that morning? Surely, gven the flap that swirled around Obama and Rev Wright at that time, your public observance of Christ's Resurrection would have been noticed by pool, local public, or papparazzi.

So WHERE did you go to church within driving distance of the Chappaqua house? You can tell us.

I just don't get it. Obama's remarks are basically correct. I know 'cause I'm a small town guy from PA. What's the big deal here? It's more like a mountain over a mole hill. He's been clear about what he was saying and I sure don't take offense myself.

Obama made a poor choice of words. Clinton made a poor choice of lies. Her comments about being under fire in Bosnia will alienate most of the veterans - most of whom are really disgusted by someone who lies about having been in combat.

Obama spoke the truth, and the elitists want us to think he has insulted us. He's right - we cling to our guns and our religions and our xenophobias because after the government gets through with us, that's all we have left to cling to.

Clinton is the elitist. Weren't most rural Americans disgusted by her fling in a bar, where she managed to "throw back" a shot of whiskey? Does that make her a better man than Obama? That was about the most condescending thing she's done so far, and she's done a lot of them. Trying to make us believe Obama insulted us by speaking the truth is one of them. We rural Americans know when we've been insulted, and Obama hasn't done it.

Clinton is trashing her own campaign, and while Bill is doing all he can to help her, I still think she'll get the nomination. She has all the superdelegates bought and paid for already, so it won't matter who the lowly people themselves want to be their nominee.

Even more than at these two controversies, the Pennsylvanians will have a good look at Hillary's lies about NAFTA and her husband's and campaign strategist's huge salaries for being FREE TRADE LOBBYISTS and for DEFENDING FOREIGN INTERESTS instead of American and Pennsylvanian jobs. Isn't THAT elitist in the 10th degree, and a BETRAYAL of small town America whose jobs are being shipped overseas, thanks to Big Money grabbers as Clinton and Penn???

That is a major issue in both PA and in this campaign and it amazes me that Jake doesn't keep focusing on this; instead he has about seven or eight post about the "bitter" remark... while Obama is the one DEFENDING the left out folks and defending American jobs.

To break one of the ten commandments and claim to be a Christian is definitely by far worse - a liar is a rogue. This is off the point but the Elections Commission needs to prohibit cross party voting during party nominations. The Republicans should be barred from voting for Democratic Nominees as they are not members of the party. This has been a dirty tactics used by the Republicans for a while as over 100,000 voted for Hillary in Texas as directed by a Conservative radio talkshow host. The democrats don't play that game. Keep the Republicans out of the Democratic Nomination!

I find this to be a hilarious article to compare the two issues and thinking something about a foreign country is a bigger impact on voters then something said about Americans here at home. I mean first off a lot of people I talk to here in PA don't even know what the Bosnia story was even about in the first place. HOWEVER, they know what his "bitter" comments were all about as it was directed right at them by a candidate seeking their vote!

I WAS A FENCE SITTER on the Dem candidates but this is the final straw for me with Mr. Obama.... I've decided on Mrs. Clinton after this issue. I've talked to other previous undecideds here in PA too and the majority agree with me on this one. Mr. Obama doesn't seem to think that anyone should care what he thinks about them and just vote for him. It doesn't quite work that way. I mean he knew what he said and he meant what he said... after all he didn't think anyone would find out about what he said since it was said behind closed doors to his supporters.

I'm finding that he is just clearly a joke at this point! So, my vote goes firmly to Mrs. Clinton next week here in PA.

In this afternoon’s conference call sponsored by the Pennsylvania Sportsmen and Sportswomen for Obama, small-town politicians said the latest attacks from the Clinton campaign are shameless, aimed at creating divisions in their communities.

“Trying to turn small-town Pennsylvanians against each other for political gain is shameless,” said Mayor John Fetterman of Braddock, Pa. Fetterman blasted the New York senator for trying to win votes by patronizing gun owners, a move he said shows a willingness to win at all costs.

“I think it's really discouraging and tacky to see Hillary Clinton pandering as if she's a gun owner,” said Fetterman. “I think it demonstrates and represents willingness to say anything and everything to get elected.”

Rep. Dan Surra (D-PA) said he shares the frustration of the constituents he represents.

“I represent the people that Barack Obama was talking about, that people who have lost their jobs,” Surra said. "I think he understands, there is a frustration out there.”

Here's what Senator Jim Webb said in 2006:

"Working Americans have been repeatedly seduced at the polls by emotional issues such as the predictable mantra of "God, guns, gays, abortion and the flag" while their way of life shifted ineluctably beneath their feet."

Those who know America well, know he's right. And so was Obama.

Here's the most important news today, on FOX:

Report: Carter and Gore to Team Up Against Clinton to End Her Presidential Bid

Hoorah!!!

Hillary's campaign had led her down a path where her only hope is to wait until Obama makes any kind of mistake and then she springs forth like a snake she is and strikes. She hides behind her lies because she can't win on facts. She spends her time trying to cover up her lies while Obama must defend himself because he is willing to tell the truth. I live in a small town and I am as middle class as they get and I am BITTER about what the government has done to this country and the working class.

People in the US want the truth from their politicians, but they only want the truth that they agree with.

How many of the people who think this was an "elitist" remark actually read or heard the whole context of the remark? How many of the people accusing Obama of being "out of touch" actually come from small towns - or even the middle or working classes for that matter? How many politicians or people in the media can even relate to that life??

Well, I grew up in Kentucky, and I think Obama was dead on in his description. He wasn't being condescending. He might could have been more careful in choosing his words, but he was talking to a group of volunteers who wanted to know more about the communities they were getting ready to visit. It wasn't a speech, it was an answer to a question. And he was contrasting what his campaign was offering - health care, rolling back the bush tax cuts, tax relief for working families, against the things that Republicans use to get small town voters to vote for them. So he talked about the ways in which people in small towns have been abandoned, again and again, and the fact that it makes people bitter. And the fact that this leads people to "cling" - yeah, cling - to the same kinds of issues: guns, religion, anti-immigrant, anti-people-who-aren't-like-us (whether that's "foreigners" or "gays" or people of different races or ethnicities or whatever) as a way to explain their bitterness.

And if you DONT think this is what politics is like, what it's like in small towns where "middle America" only matters every four years when they need your votes - then what the h#ll do you think is happening right now with this story??? Clinton and McCain are only playing up their "outrage" at Obama's "elitism" because they don't want to have to admit that with their millions and their pro-war records and their lobbyist supporters, that's exactly what they are about, too. They are users, too, and they aren't going to do any more to address the issues that LEAD to small town bitterness than any other politician. They're just going to put the blame off somewhere else. Use "guns" as an issue to divide people. Use "moral values." Use "immigration." or whatever. But they're not going to do one darn thing to really try to figure out WHY people might be bitter, because they can't even acknowledge that someone might feel this way.

At least Obama sees it like it is. You have to see the lay of the land before you can build a new path through it. Clinton and McCain just want to pave over the problems facing middle America and pretend there was never anything there that needed fixing. I would rather have real solutions, even if that means taking an honest look at what's not working.

Vote for Bam or go back to Europe.

This criticism and attack came at the rigth time. May God bless you OBAMA. YOU SEE PEOPLE ALWAYS HATE SOMEONE WHO TELLS THE TRUTH. NOW IT IS HER TURN. WE WNAT A PERSON WHO CAN ADDRSS THE REAL ISSUES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FACING.

ONCE AGAIN ,THANK YOU BARACK OBAMA.

I was watching c-span Sunday and there was a reporter on from Politico. A caller asked the question, "why isn't anyone talking about Hillary Clinton's fraud trial in California." Well, he never even acknowledged the question. He went to a totally different subject. By not talking about it, the media is clearly showing bias for her, but I'm sure that Fox news will be all over it f she becomes a threat. The case is Peter Paul vs Hillary Clinton.

Vanessa -- maybe Hillary's "excuse" is the Bush and Clinton administration....she was so bitter that she responded to Obama, knowing that a Democrat cannot criticize the Lord Obama.

Oh please Vanessa. Obama looks a little silly (sissy) dancing the Annie Oakley. Besides, as much as he has been flip flopping on gun control he really doesnt want to go there.

finally, if he plans on using that obamingtonpost.com stuff on bill clinton, he had better be ready. bill was talking about a specific campaign in north carolina where republicans ran a commercial basically saying black people are taking your jobs. it was the same year, and this was used to defeat the black senate candidate's run. this is very different from obama's mess. pathetic. THE DEMS ARE GOING TO LOSE AGAIN! YES! WHAT A WASTE OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WE COULD HAVE BUILT SOME SCHOOLS WITH THIS MONEY RATHER THAN NOMINATING A LOSER.

As a small town mayor's wife, ethnic groups are not the only people taking advantage of public assistance programs. More white, poor and middle classed people take advantage of anything that is offered free by the government than the Hispanics. The majority of Hispanics in this county work two and three jobs per household, by necessity. That does not even take into account the many wealthy ranchers and farmers who take advantage of every USDA rural/free money that is offered either. One could argue that many of them are wealthy because they have been gifted lots of free money through so-called 'subsidy based' programs. They are also the majority of people who employ so many of the illegal aliens in this county and the majority of them are Republicans, by the way.

Obama did not say one thing wrong. He spoke the truth. Those of you that have read my many posts on this site will remember that I have been speaking to some of the same issues of disgust in our rural society. Disgust? Disenfranchisement? Disengagement? Bitter? Hell, yes we are!

How many times have I said that our government, state and federal, give us little more than lip service. Most of the assistance rungs on the ladder are so high for our little communities to reach that they are completely out of reach most of the time. As a democrat, I have watched the state party and the DNC come into this region as true political elitists and promise us the moon and the stars. For 28 years, they have allowed the GOP to control Congressional District 1 in New Mexico. Why, because the elite of the Dems made out good regardless of the GOP in the seat. When politicians claim that they care about rural areas, I say "Bologne!" Change is the last hope that small town America has. The Dems have ignored small town America for the last 25 years and now they claim to care? I don't know whether to cry or laugh.

How disingenous of Clinton to call Obama an elitist. Both her and McCain are multimillionaires, and if America buys this BS, we do get what we deserve. How sad.

We cling to our faith because we have had no other choice. We have learned that our Government, Dems and GOP and so many like Clinton and McCain lie to us time and time again, so how in the world could we place our confidence in someone the likes of her or McCain? The gleeful manner in which the MSM has jumped on this is truly despicable and goes to some of my earlier views that they truly do not want someone like Obama to win and clean up our government. If he were actually successful, the pig trough of greed would dry up and remember the media makes so much more money as long as we are divided. Divided is what they want and candidates like Clinton and McCain are what the culture of corruption wants. I pray that Obama prevails and that the people of America are smart enough to see this horrible manipulation.

My God in Heaven, to compare a poor choice of words to outright lies and a long history of treachery to the working class of America is unfathomable to me. Ultimately if white America is truly as racist and stupid as the media, Clinton and McCain hopes, we are truly doomed. Is he guilty of being a city slicker with little or no understanding of rural life? Maybe, but so what. Is that his biggest crime and now the media jumps on to it like flies on horseshit? Obviously. He on the other hand, is not out of touch with the overlapping foundation of concerns and frustrations in small town America, because those things are shared by working Americans everywhere.

Please forgive the tone of my comments. Finally rural America is getting attention, but from my view, Clinton, McCain and the media are attempting to trivialize the seriousness of the larger problems. There are approximately 60 Million people living in rural America and 30% of that population produces a large percentage of the world's food supply and our importance to the strength of America is very important. If rural America is ignored and marginalized, we are in real trouble as a nation. The crumbling or non-existant infrastructure of rural areas is not dissimilar to the struggles and challenges that were exposed in the Katrina tragedy. These challenges are the things that we must face as a nation that puts people and prinicples ahead of greed. Greed is the real enemy of us all and Indifference and Ignorance are its helpmates.

Yarrr,
That's just dang funny as Mudcat's name.
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Obama, the best comedy act in America besides Yarrr!
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Edgar,
A hostile, angry, creepy Obama shouting about Annie Oakley. What a class act, keeping the story alive! I do hope it makes front page news, and I hope the creepy video makes the evening news. Obama and Annie Oakley, this guy is a political wizard no doubt.
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Obama, the Wizard of All Things Bitter!
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The Bosnia story has more legs because it is more comedic rather than condescending. People are too skeered to talk for fear of a snake shortage that would ensue.

John writes:
"He flipped the switch right on time for the Monday paper. Annie Oakley is first page news."
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Well, let's see: Clinton's FATHER, according to that Times story, taught her to shoot. And Obama's progenitor ... didn't. That could be why his Annie Oakley tape looks so hateful and ... creepy: he's jealous.

Clinton might do well to wear a cowgirl suit somewhere -- you know: silky, bright pink, white fringe, all that. (SHE didn't wear a cowboy hat in Texas, and Obama did -- a black one, that didn't look that good.)

"This whole "Karl Rove era" thing is ridiculous. I neither like nor dislike Mr. Rove, but what he did (and maybe still does) was to understand the American electorate better than any of his opponents." -

He understands America so well that he over played the GOP hand so bad that he SCREWED his party for a generation. He's an overblown hack. A hack !

just watched the ayers video.
I was a teen when all of this happened
I thought most of the people were in prison. this is scary to me.
because-they are not funding him just because they think he is a great guy.
If we had known earlier what we know now obama would not be in the lead.
and he does not represent the will of the american people now.
black people were told to go and vote for him-without vetting him.

Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.

Dema,
Would that be the big white house in Washington, where elite habitate? The one that is thousands of miles from those small little towns with those small-minded bitter people clutch their guns and their Bibles, waiting for Obama to bring them a job?
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Obama, the Wizard of all things Bitter!
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right cj.

Hillary has you spinning this now?

Pathetic.

He flipped the switch right on time for the Monday

paper. Annie Oakley es first page news.

"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.
A couple months later, Joe Klein, writing for the Sunday Times, reported that Clinton made the following remarks:
"You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I'm from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they're gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they've been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country's coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, 'What happened to everybody's job? What happened to everybody's income? What ... have ... you ... done ... to ... our ... country?'"

Obama is absolutely right.

People are totally fed up with the namby-pamby centrist Clintons who want the peoples' vote while making policy of, by and for their fellow elite.

Hillary and Bill should just retire to that mega-bucks country house and let us and Obama fix the mess they and the Bushes made.

Enough of the Clintons, geez, already, please...we need Obama in the White House!

the black community had it right the first time-before most of them were told to drink the kool-aid.
what about obama and his heritage
african-american
he is part african true enough
but the american part of him he seems to have been laid aside
Why?
Is it just because his skin is brown?
He is a conflicted man, and I can imagine the pressure.
we do not know enough about him.
he needs to go back to chicago and work for the people in his region more.

Let's face it, Obama revealed his true colors. He has serious electability issues.

Obama has more potent lies under his belt than Hillary would ever could have.
Obama is a pathological liar.

C'mon he lied on his own family, lied on all his friends. That is the worst of worst there can be. Especially since he did it over and over.

Obama has the demons of racism playing through his head constantly, with rev wright on the left and Michelle on the right. His poor head must be always spinning.

He sold out the voters to a San Francisco money maker. How much was it worth to him?

He doesn't have to be president to clean up government He is a Senator. they write and enact bills and make laws.

"Unless his plan is to rewrite the constitution, redistribute the power of government, Which would change America from a democracy to what ever the heck he wanted." THAT SHOULD BE YOUR GREATEST FEAR

countallthevotes writes:
"after Edwards suspended his campaign Mudcat said he would do everything in his power to make sure Edwards does not endorse Hillary Clinton."
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When Mr. Mudcat gets up to speed -- zombietime.com has ALL the particulars -- maybe he can figure out how best to UN-suspend the Edwards campaign, because it's Edwards the Democrats had darn well better nominate, in case they want to WIN the election, and be able to resist the right AFTERwards.

The mincing Democratic "leadership" doesn't care, apparently, about actually having a Democratic president, so much as about having promoted birthday-suit "diversity".

If they DID care, they would have come up with something more promising than Hillobama. Clinton's not as creepy as Obama -- but BILL Clinton is JUST as creepy, and too enamored of Bush I, besides.

I hope it will soon become clear to the obama supporters: he will never get into the white house.

I hope your only goal was to defeat hillary-because that may be all you will get.-and if he keeps opening his mouth and taking qestions off the cuff
he and you will lose that.
he is not ready to be president
he can only make speeches.
and in his speeches he only tells people what they already know.
he does not tell them what solutions for solving their problems.

TCG,
Far from it, I'm a free market capitalistic Democrat. I believe in a balanced budget, based on prioritized values. I also believe in efficiencies, smaller government, and cutting taxes whenever possible. I believe in free trade augmented by environmental regulation, and I also believe that when it comes to one nation placing trade barriers against us, that we meet them in kind, an eye for an ey. I'm quite certain that Hillary is of the same ilk.
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Hillary, a balanced approach!
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The Bosnia fib was harmless and is consistent with the character of it's author. The small town remark is more disturbing as it implies a deep seated contempt for a whole class of people.

Would someone please tell me why we keep bring up what bill clinton did or did not do in the 90.
please people let us try to look at the issues that face us today, and think who will be the best for us over the next four years.
bill clinton was impeached for having an affair and lying about it by some men who as we later found out had mistresses, where cheating the gov. out of funds left and right-having affairs with young boys, etc.
we are not going to be able to impeach bill again.
and this time it is Sen. Hillary Clinton who is running for president
I have read her plans and how she will pay for them-if you are a person concerned about healthcare, getting the economy back on track, and affordable college, go back and read her plan it will work for us. obama co