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April 10, 2008 10:34 AM

An argument pushed by the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, is that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, has not been fully vetted.

As Clinton-backing Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell told us last week "she's been really well vetted, all the bad stuff is by and large out there, and there are no surprises. With Sen. Obama I think the right now he may run, a little stronger in some areas -- not the key states -- but in some areas against Sen McCain, but understand that he hasn't been vetted." Rendell said there was 10% about Clinton that "we don't know yet" and "about 50% about Barack Obama that we don't know yet."

Which brings us to William Ayres.

Ayres is Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago, and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society.

He also spent the 1970s as a fugitive from justice, as a member of the Weather Underground, after the domestic terrorist group, preparing to attack an Army base, accidentally exploded a Greenwich Village townhouse killing three of their own members. Ayres later married feather Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, then on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List.

''I don't regret setting bombs,'' Ayres told the New York Times in 2001 upon publication of his memoir about that era, "Fugitive Days." ''I feel we didn't do enough.''

As celebrated members of the Chicago liberal world, Ayres and Obama have some connections.

They served on a board together when Obama was a state senator. Ayres donated $200 to Obama's campaign in 2001. They sat on a panel together in 2002 called "Intellectuals in Times of Crisis." Obama went to Ayres and Dohrn's home in 1995 to be introduced to some of the more influential liberals in the area by the state senator he was preparing to succeed, Alice Palmer.

(Palmer, who changed her mind about not running for reelection for her state senate seat after being defeated in a US House race, was later unable to get on the ballot because Obama challenged her petitions to do so, in some hardball Chicago-style politics, a whole other interesting story.)

"Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school," Obama senior strategist David Axelrod told the Politico. "They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together." (Ayres' kids are actually much older than Obama's but Dohrn is still active at the school.)

"We can relitiigate again and again these 40-year-old battles," Axelrod said. "He thinks what was done then was wrong and outrageous, and he believes that you can’t defend the indefensible – but he’s looking forward, he’s not looking back."

"Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence," Obama spokesman Bill Burton told the New York Sun when asked about the connection. "But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost 40 years ago is ridiculous."

Is that enough for you? Perhaps it is. Perhaps you think this is all a silly political smear.

But should Obama get the nomination, what will moderate and swing voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Missouri think of it all? Will they think Obama is able to transcend partisan divisions if he's been supported by Ayres?

The proverbial Republican attack machine is chugging along on this -- see THIS CLIP from last night's "Hannity & Colmes" on Fox News, featuring Karl Rove making much hay out of this connection, however tenuous, and Ayres speaking at the University of North Dakota saying he doesn't regret anything he did against the government.

There is a tendency in the Obama campaign to not take these types of stories seriously. That is a "perfect world" approach to politics. In a perfect world, some might argue, we would be debating policy in Iraq, the economy and health care. We wouldn't have discussions about whether Al Gore claimed he invented the internet, or George W. Bush got a DUI in the 1970s, we wouldn't talk about Swift Boat Vet for truth claims that contradict official Naval records.

But that's not the world we live in. Yes, the mainstream media is complicit in that, but there are other forces at play. Paid TV ads, the internet, cable news, talk radio -- sources of information, and misinformation that have an impact on the electorate, necessitating that the mainstream media cover stories having an influence on the election even if they did not originate in the mainstream media. We of course are obligated to fact check them and deal with them responsibly and the mainstream media does not always rise to the challenge.

But campaigns have to know how to deal with such stories as well.

Former Sen. John Edwards, D-NC, has not endorsed Obama precisely because he worries Obama is not tough enough to deal with attacks such as these, such as the fact that this Ayres story is still out there, with very little pushback from Obama -- or even, frankly, any acknowledgment as to why some voters might not like the idea of Obama being friendly with a man such as Ayres.

This Stevenson-esque (Adlai, not McLean) regard for fighting these stories is likely a reason we haven’t seen a stampede of superdelegates over to Obama to end this never-ending primary season.

What do you think?

- jpt

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Brilliant Obama strategist Axelrod said that Obama and Ayres' children went to school together. He said that was how they knew each other.

Posted by: Clif | Oct 7, 2008 2:22:19 PM

This should have been out in the open months ago. It was all there, I read it, tried my best to post and got knocked down each time. Follow the money, connect the dots and it will show that Ayres is only one of many radicals that Obama is connected to. I have great fear for this country under his rule. If there is proof that I am wrong, someone please show me. I'm sick and tired of everytime "questions" arise about Obama's past, right away you hear "people don't want to hear about these things, they want to hear about the issues". Of course we're concerned about issues, but the integrity of this man and exactly where he intends to take this country is a huge concern. I beg you all, keep searching, make up your own minds!

Posted by: jg | Oct 7, 2008 9:46:37 AM

CNN can't compare Obama's past with McCain's past. We know NOTHING about Obama, OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE A TRACK RECORD. There fore people are comparing apples to oranges when it comes to THE candidate's PASTS!
McCain has already proven himself, and yes he has made mistakes. BUT - OBAMA HAS NOT PROVEN himself - therefore his association with Ayres is MORE IMPORTANT than any of Mccain's past associations. CNN just reported 10/06/08 on the Rick Sanchez Show, that Ayres did not start Obama's campaign. It depends upon which campaign you are talking about. AYRES LAUNCHED HIS WHOLE ENTIRE POLITICAL CAREER, in Chicago, he held his very first fund raiser at his house. The Sun Times is prejudiced for the democratic party and everybody HERE knows that - sourcing them is biased. They are twisting words around to make it look good for Obama.

Posted by: Sue Baxter | Oct 6, 2008 4:31:40 PM

38 Years ago the US was in the early stages of metastasizing from the innocence of the 50's to the Military/Industrial Juggernaut of today.
Parenthood changes people over time. I am not the person I was in 1970, thank goodness. Life evolves, maturity ripens and all in all, I will drive my 1976 motorcycle to the to the Election Booth in Novemeber, weather permitting. What ever happened to the YIP ?

Posted by: jay furman | Oct 6, 2008 10:37:56 AM

I am from Chicago, and to all of you fools out there, Bill Ayers has done wonders with his programs on School Reform. In Fact, he has worked with that noted radical Mayor Daley. The Foundation in question, The Woods, works with kids and Health Care. I know that Health Care for kids, The CHIPS Program, is something you right-wingers can't get behind, let the little buggers die, but Ayers is a friendly open man who has more than made up for any past wrongs. In fact, I find it disgusting that you people never mention the horror of the Vietnam War. Ayers is a much finer person than any of you guys.

Posted by: Denis Mueller | May 4, 2008 3:07:07 PM

I am very angry by the way Obama talked about the people in the midwest its very disturbing to me! First of all, to clump small town people or any group of people together shows that he has no knowledge about us. For Obama to say that the people in small midwest towns are bitter shows his bias against us!
I am very proud to "cling to my religion" and he should be honest enough to tell us the truth about his church and his religion... He wants to be president of the USA and the church he regularly attends is dedicated to Africa... no whites allowed. And for him to talk against people who want to secure our country against illegal immigration is very disturbing to me, because securing our borders is not a bad thing! For him to be against people who have anti-trade sentiment is very telling, because he claims to want to help build our business up and for us not to want to see more trade deals that would cost more US jobs to go over seas is not a bad thing either! His speech clearly shows his racist bias towards midwesterners and those who are not as liberal as he is! He is talking as if he looks down on us and that is unforgiveable for a man who wants to be our president!

Posted by: Bevsh | Apr 13, 2008 8:13:33 PM

What he really meant to say was, "just say no to bombs". It was all just youthful indiscretion.

Posted by: Mack | Apr 11, 2008 11:28:37 AM

We all need to realize that NONE of the candidates are perfect. But I'm taking my chances with the crazy pastor. McCain's about to be SWIFTBOATED by Vietnam Vets and Hillary, well there's enough fodder on her to last for 8 years. John McCain is only running because he wants war. He can't even remember who we're fighting most of the time. Who wants a President like that? McCain's an inch deep and a mile wide. He knows nothing about anything but war. Vietnam Vets won't support him. They'll shred him to bits! He blocked legislation find find more POWs and MIA in the 1990s. It'll come back to bite him major!

Posted by: Kim | Apr 11, 2008 10:33:19 AM

As the organizer behind Dr. Ayers's recent visit to North Dakota let me say that the latest version of the smear campaign using video footage taken by the young republican group in the audience is just as dishonest as the supposed quote that Ayers has no regrets of the past "taken" from the NYT. IN FACT -- Ayers discussed that misquote that night in some detail and explained what he really said, which was not that he had no regrets. Moreover, his message (which he iterated at UND as well) was that he was asked "Do you have any regrets?" and his position was "I'm 63 years old -- I have LOT'S of regrets. You don't get to be my age without many regrets." He then went on to say that while his political stance has become more nuanced than in his youth, one has to understand what he did then in its historical context -- which was that some 2000 young men were dying each week in the name of a war founded on a Big Lie. All this of course was edited out of the Fox News/Karl Rove interview. It's also missing from this ABC news piece as well as almost every piece of coverage that I've seen on this issue. Lastly, it should be pointed out that Ayers did not endorse Obama at UND or any other candidate. He does admit that they live essentially on the same block, but he points out that he lives on the same block (in the other direction) as Louis Farrakhan too. This doesn't make them close or neighborly.

Posted by: Richard Kahn | Apr 11, 2008 10:11:22 AM

As an Obama supporter, I think this is all fair game. No one that walks this Earth is perfect. Franky, I am getting tired of all this "connected to", "linked to", "relationship with" or "rode the same train with" lunacy. Get me some hard evidence or drop it, I say. Ever hear of the theory that everybody in the world is connected to someone else by no more than 6 people? Google it. The theory is sound. Me, I happen to know someone who knows someone that went to school with Hillary Clinton. That's 3 people. Lets not forget that Bill Clinton, as President gave a Pardon to these people.

As to the question of electability, John McCain has had some questionable rrelationships himself. Ross Perot actually has some wild theories about McCain's heroism. Clinton also has some things she might have to answer for, like that mysterious murder that her and Maggie Williams, her new campaign manager, may have had something to do with while Billy Boy was President.

I personally think all of this stuff is hhogwash and shouldn't even be news. Obama is a liberal. We all know that. So is Clinton. Let's get pass these types of smears.

Posted by: Democrats United | Apr 11, 2008 4:02:41 AM

Do you think this will be mentioned elsewhere as well -- can we NOW have some vetting please?

If every other news station had bothered to do its job a couple of months ago and reported any of this and the Rev. Wright 20-year relationship, this primary would be over by now and Hillary Clinton would be our nominee.

Think to yourselves, who benefits from sitting on this all this time? The media narrative that was sold to the voter with a big shovel was that Sen. Obama would be the tougher candidate in the fall -- oh really? Then why would the corporate owned media being beating the drum so loudly for Hillary to get out and keep hitting her with everything they've got and fawning over him for no good reason?

Gee, could the real reason be that they knowe SHE is more formidable so they play divide and conquer to get her out first -- knowing the repubs. have all this stuff waiting in a vault -- ready to go when they need it.

Senator Obama should have been more prudent in all his assocations (so much for the sterling judgment he claims to have) if he planned run for president. He is not running for president of far left-wing extremist America -- he is running to be President of all America -- most of whom live more in the center and have big problems with his associations with the divisive Rev. Wright, the crook Antonin Rezko and Ayers.

Are there any more? Can we please let America know now -- before PA or any other states vote so we can save this situation.

Posted by: annagain | Apr 11, 2008 12:14:03 AM

Pat, I am sure Jack and Keith will just keep it in the lock box forever.

Posted by: Ken FL | Apr 10, 2008 11:31:40 PM

That interview with the NYT came out on SEPT 11, 2001.

Posted by: Don | Apr 10, 2008 10:56:40 PM

Don't forget a future Obama superdelegate (Jimmy Carter) meeting with Hamas.

Posted by: John | Apr 10, 2008 10:30:46 PM

FOX is starting some in depth coverage on William Ayers. Including some interesing video of recent speeches by Ayers. Barack Obama and William Ayers issue needs to be totally vetted. FOX is the only place I've seen coverage of it. Ayers was a danagerous dude.

Posted by: Brian R | Apr 10, 2008 9:51:52 PM

The Rev. Wright and The Black Liberation Theology story has not been explained enough. At the same time period as The Weathermen group, the Black Panther movement was on, Black Muslims were increasing in numbers and many were chanting Black Power. An interview on National Public Radio last week by Terry Gross cleared many things up for me. Rev. James Cones was interviewed and explained why he wrote his books, which started The Black Liberation Theology movement. BLT was the Christian answer to the Black Muslim movement, with some of the same anger and hatred. BLT people were very impatient with the non-violent approach
of Dr. Martin Luther King. Dr. King was very deep into Southern Baptist teachings and firmly believed that was the way to approach the problems.
I'll not take up anymore space but for one last thing. I think Obama didn't go to the ceremonies for Dr. King was because of his BLT teachings. And remember he's still a member of that church with it's new BLT Rev.

Posted by: A C | Apr 10, 2008 9:41:25 PM

The Clinton campaign will not bring this up. You see, this opens up a BIG OL can of worms for the Clintons. Bill Clinton PARDONED several Weathermen during his presidency. Again, the Clintons knew ALL of these OBAMA supporters before Obama. We've all seen photos of the Clintons with Rezko, Rev. Wright, and now William Bill Ayers.

And by the way, McCain isn't as clean as you think. Just wait until about July. I can't wait.....

Obama/Zinni 2008

Posted by: Kimberly | Apr 10, 2008 9:17:23 PM

"His entire adult life is filled with nefarious characters"

LOL! You actually seem to think he only knows and met with the 4 or 5 shady people you were able to find? Any idea how many people a man like Obama is working with and talking to on a daily basis? Don't you care about Obama's Presidency of the Harvard Law Review for instance - and why not? Do you know that it is the world's most presitigious law review? (of course you don't). Do you care about the huge article Newsweek is running now about Obama's very remarkable mother? It's full of details on him as well, so go check it out!

You folks are a sad bunch of people who are allergic to the brilliance and greatness in a black man running for the Presidency.

Posted by: kingston | Apr 10, 2008 8:41:40 PM

The GOP will crush Obama under the weight of his associations. His entire adult life is filled with nefarious characters. Hillary cannot bring this up, but the reason she has vowed to stay in the race until the convention is so that the Democratic party has a viable candidate should all of this come out before Obama is the nominee. God Bless Hillary for staying in the race! There is still hope.

Posted by: HoosierSue | Apr 10, 2008 7:55:10 PM

This is the Wright story, redux. Only this time, he's not going to be able to wash it all away with a speech.

Posted by: Sue | Apr 10, 2008 7:54:13 PM

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