Super-D Update

@Jkan | Apr 1, 2008 11:51:46 PM:

This should definitely be of some concern for folks. Granted, there has been one poll conducted (Gallup, March 26) which showed 28% of Clinton supporters voting for McCain if Obama is the nominee and 19% of Obama supporters voting for McCain if Clinton is the nominee.

This is a troubling statistic for whomever is the democratic nominee. For obvious and many reasons, the DNC is in a bit pickle if they don't find a way to resolve the current division within their party.

pablo, I have no doubt you are 100% american, your name suggest of latino extraction. my is african-american
and if latino is correct. until this war there had been a imbalance of the number of african american and latino going into the military in hope of paying for college-economics.
now back to hillary and her taxes-I will take hillary and her taxes and knowing she will do what she has said she would on healthcare,student loans,ending the war responsibily,and getting this country back on the right track. what I do know is what I see right now in obama-a copier, and in his very short political career-a whole lot of trouble. a lot of the stuff people go on about with hillary-is dreamed up, made up, and down right crazy-that is why some of it stays around so long-it is not because she is so good and such a crook they are good at covering it up. it is because most of if is blown up in peoples minds and simply not true.
and most people would rather believe and talk about that kind of stuff-rather than try to understand the issues and talk about them-
My husband said he was talking to a nurse-and she said she could not stand hillary because she was the cause of her having an hmo and a ppo-just crazy stuff.
hillary is be good for this country.

Jkan - To each their own. I think Mccains time should have happened 8 years ago to be honest with you. I agree he has served his country honorably....I can't remember his name being brought on any money scandals like clinton or obama...but I bet there are skeletons in the closet....I love the idea that Rush, Hannity and Coulter don't want him in...that alone is almost enough to get my vote over Obama but not quite

All my friends I talk to say as of today:

They will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nod. At least McCain is a deserving candidate.

I agree with them 100%.

Because, OBAMA has 0 experience and yet he wants to be the president. That's STRANGE to many.

Obamadefector - Can I borrow that crystal ball 'cause WOW!! it must be awesome to know what is going to happen...is that the same crystal ball that said mccain was out and hillary was a sure thing?

I think it is fair to identify the sequence of events that lead to the current situation of MI and FL, but I find it puzzling that Senator Obama isn't doing more to ensure that these two very critical states (in my opinion at least according to past general elections) don't feel disenfranchised one way or another.

Let's assume for a moment he becomes the nominee...blaming other people while exhibiting what seems to be a lack of leadership to bring a voice to these two states is not going to bode well with these swing states in the GE. This is a very serious problem.

What good is it to see Hillary's tax returns......are you kidding me. LOL She is shady to say the least.

LOM - I understand that but how is anything going to get reconciled without getting it all out in the open...and I agree, both of them should be saying what really went wrong in those states

I think blaming the people who actually screwed it up is lacking forward-thinking and leadership. If that would truly help reconcile the potential rift, why isn't Senator Obama trying to hold them accountable now.

I think if he truly wants to be viewed as legitimate come the general election with MI and FL, he should attempt to be more vocal and proactive NOW rather than playing catch-up in a GE contest.

Blaming people may point to the root cause of a problem, but it doesn't begin to bring resolution to the real issues.

jgaw - if she's as crooked on her tax returns as she is on her storytelling, it may not do all that you say...just will prove she is not the one to do all that you say...as for my heritage....born in the U.S., 100% American. Not sure what your inferring but I really wouldn't go there.

LOM - he can reconcile that byblameing the people that actually screwed it up - their elected representatives voted to move the dates knowing full well what would happen. You reconcile those votes by bringing up what Bush did in FL...please keep the governor out of it.. Michigan will be more difficult but can be done.

pablo, what good will it do you to see hillary' tax returns?
will it get you universal healthcare
if your heritage is as your name sounds
will it keep your fellows from having to go to war?
will it get you affordable healthcare?
will it help the economy in anyway?
pablo, What will seeing Hillary's tax returns do for you?

Poor Super-D's. They are soooo confused. Geez, do I take the "American Idol" or "Rocky"? Oh my gosh. Do I want the pretty boy or the laser guided missle? Should I pick the good looking, charismatic, smooth talking, anti-american, anti-white, anti-semetic, anti-pregnancy, anti-american, pathological lair fellow?

Or, should I take the one who isn't perfect, but knows how to talk to rouge nations, fix the economy, provide healthcare, restore integrity with our allies, and end a WAR.

Poor Super-D's.

What makes you think Hillary' supporters will support obama after all the vile things that are said to them, and why would any people from fl and mich with a brain vote for him-since he and his surrogates were in on the punishment of them in the primaries.
I and many Hillary supporters will not vote for obama in nov. because his handlers (dean,bradley,kerry,kennedy and co) hijacked the dem party.
I want the smartest person in the position of the president.
Obama is not the smartest-He is not smarter than Hillary on the issues-we need a president who can think on their feet-when articulating the issues-obama cannot. obama claiming to be a uniter
has fractured the country-with this rev. wright thing -the dem party-by causing an alienation of hillary supporters-and the black community-by causing-and not denouncing-the threatening of elected black officials and voters if they do not support obama.
he is supposed to be the candidate of change-but he has been the cause of many black people who have never voted before to reg. and follow him blindly-placing hope in him hoping their situation will somehow or another change just because he is in office.
obama and his handlers are doing to the poor and working poor black people what karl rove and bush did to the rual and evangelical voters.
the media is biased
I do not want my first black president to win like this.
and he will not win against mccain for the reasons I stated above-no fl, no mich, no hillary supporters. No obama president plus hillary is smarter that he is on the issues.

Let's assume for a moment that this nomination goes to the convention floor and Obama wins the nomination in a scenario that MI and FL aren't seated (since they failed to a) hold second nominating contests or b) appeal to the DNC's credentials committee to be seated).

How does an Obama nomination reconcile garnering MI and FL support in the general election and the potential feeling that MI and FL were disenfranchised during the primaries?

If the argument is that these swing states won't matter in the general election, then these two issues don't have to be reconciled, but if they are important, how does he win those states?

SadStateOfAffairs - Nah...lets compare campaign contributions or tax returns - - Did any news ever come out of her release of schedule from her time as first lady?

I see the Obama bologgers are in full force tonight.

Pity, it won't work for the next 10.

Wanna Bowl????

Obamadefector - Yeah...go ahead and vote with your color...most people (myself included) might actually vote for whom they feel is the best candidate....race or gender may just be a coincidence in the end.

It was a faulty election and would disenfranchise the rest of the country if those votes are allowed to count. If you want to get into a war? I would imagine, based on polls, that the rest of the country would out number the small amount of people who would actually take to the streets from MI and FL because many of them? Understand who cost them their votes. Many of you are simply using this as a political ploy to slam Obama when the majority knows whose fault it really is....and none of you can explain away Hillary voting to disenfranchise FL and MI along with Obama and Harold the Ick.

Sorry, that copy 'n paste didn't work out.

@pablo -

the shortest summary Roosevelt's interview on Clinton might be:
" “A little scary” is an understatement. I see her as dangerously corrupt."

The whole thing is jzeifman dot com, Jerry Zeifman's site, the Former Chief Counsel to the House Judiciary Committee.