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If you really listen to the comments being made on the video, it's clear they don't relate to Hillary's policies/politics or even her personally. They're talking about every woman who ever made them feel uncomfortable--"the ex-wife" and all the other stereotypes they're joking about. They're stereotypes of women who made them uncomfortable in part because they'd stopped being giggly schoolgirls or passive or caretakers--they grew up and owned the fact that they have as much right to their power as men do to theirs. The female "newscasters" who are participating, I think, are not there yet. They still think they can only be cheerleaders for the quarterbacks. I try to imagine what sort of female candidate these guys and gals would not joke about in a stereotypical way, and I can't. They're taking the cheapest of shots, based on all of their own fears, resentments and prejudices. Fifty or 60 years ago, the comments might have been directed at Obama and based on race--they're those kinds of comments, complete with the raucous laughter and back-slapping attitude of middle-aged boys with power and afraid of losing it.

The media is treating Hillary like a republican and she doesn't like it. Her and her husband never had a problem in the past when the media was unfairly ripping into their opponents 24/7, but now they have fallen out of favor with the media and the shoe is on the other foot. Hillary is finished. You can't expect to lie your way into the White house without attracting some negative media attention. But then cry and whine about it when it happens? Give me a break!

This has been going on for way to long!! Finally a very few people are going to reort on it!! The MSM (MainStreamMedia) have been putting her down since well before January!!! (I wrote MSNBC and told them I was no longer watching thier network because of it) They are acting sexist, The female reporter's on these station's should be ashamed!!! Nobosy without looking on the internet can name one thing Obama has done in office. Not to mention the 15 Million people who will be left out of his health care plan, and those who do not want to pay for it, leave it up to the rest of us to pick up the tab.

Senator Clinton has never made herself out to be anyone's victim. The people who made that video were angry on her behalf and angry on behalf of all women. The behavior of these some of these "journalists" has been nothing short of despicable.

On this video, you actually see a TV commentator saying "someone should take her [Hillary] out behind the barn..." Can you imagine? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE??
Is this what men and women wish to teacher their daughters about how it is acceptable to treat and talk about women?

Don't tell me it's just because it's "Hillary" -- that is merely an old extremist vile talking point to try to discredit her.

Don't you remember that a couple of months ago, some female anchor on a news show made a horrible joke about Tiger Woods so outpacing the field at a golf tournament that his competitors might be thinking of 'taking him in alley and lynching him'?? Wasn't she suspended? Or fired? Rightly so. No one let her get away with that.

Please explain to me why the rest of this frat-boy misogyny aimed at a woman, any woman, is acceptable.

What does any of this have to do with the issues on which the respective candidates are running?

I believe she can win but it is going to be hard. She not only has to run ageist obama she has to run ageist the MSM. Let's hope the white woman of PA come out in force.

I don't understand how she is ALWAYS the victim being dumped on by the guys?! First she was the underdog that came back to beat the Patriots. Then she was the underdog that came back to defeat Memphis. Let us not forget she was the underdog that came back and found her voice(N.H.) and to show us how the West was really won(Nevada).

Please.

In the words of Bill himself "Give me a break"

Oh, wait, I don't need a break the rest of the public does. I've seen through her gender and sympathy ploys. I can't take my vote back but at least I woke up to her nonsense...."The boys are picking on me. The press is picking on me....The boys are picking on me again...I'm always asked the first question....I won't quit.....there is a double standard.....the press is being unfair and the boys are PICKING ON ME AGAIN!...."

Lord knows if the situation were reversed, Obama would be hounded everyday to get out of the race, no one would have any sympathy for him and he would be called a you know what for complaining.

Therefore, het cries fall on deaf ears.

Ya Know,

McCain was behind in delegates too. And, his campaign was so broke he started carrying his own luggage. No helpers. No one told him to quit. No one called him names, no one in the press beat him to a pulp. And my gosh, look where he is today. I wonder where Hillary would be if only the press would have treated her the same as they treated McCain.

But, with all this against her, Obama cannot win either.

Hillary 08'

Well, Mike K, lets talk technicalities. Each one of Hillary's delegates is backed with more voters, sometimes thousands more. You know, because of those little Red States that had like 6,000 people show up at caucuses and bully a win for BO.

If Republicans couldn't vote in our primaries BO's lead would be erased. If FL and MI counted, most of his lead would be erased. Plus, regarding the electoral college, the thing that decides who is going to be president, Hillary is ahead.

So lets here you little SD argument again. this time with something that makes sense.

They are asking Clinton because if there were no Superdelegates she would NEVER catch Obama - plain and simple. It isn't that they both need them - they do - but that is for a magical number - it is that she is behind and without help she will always be behind. In other words, if they received the same amount of Superdelegates he would win.

But this is typical of the Clintons who often successfully reshape the conversation to their advantage - it is ludicrous and we are pathetic if we buy into her argument.

Speaking of putting people under the spotlight, when is the MSM going to put Obama's lies under the spotlight? Granted, the man goes to great lengths to avoid saying anything whatsoever he could be held accountable for, and sends his minions out to use words like "monster" so he can claim to be above it all. But every day there's new evidence that he's a complete fraud. So why it is, exactly, that the MSM doesn't investigate any of it?

If you really think Hillary can't win, even if we count FL and MI, then why not count them? If you really think she "can't win" why are you fighting so hard? Obama certainly thinks she still has a shot, he's working hard. He's mostly laid off the shots at Hillary, too. Why can't you follow his example?

Usually, we think well of someone who doesn't give up, but stays in the game, right?

I'm a woman and I'm SICK and TIRED of Clinton playing the gender/victim card. One day, I hope to vote for woman for POTUS who EARNED it through sheer hard work and discipline and not because of her husband and all his dubious political connections.

Of course Clinton has been put under harsher spotlight than any other candidate and that's because she's a CLINTON, not a woman. I don't know why people get confused with that. Its in the Clinton DNA to lie effortlessly (see Bosnia) and hence, whatever she or Bill says will be analyzed more carefully and harshly.

This is, after all, the family that redefined the meaning of the word 'is'.

I am a female, 56 y.o. I haven't seen any of that video stuff not being a TV watchers (NPR and the Internet are my sources). Some of the stuff there is offensive, some is just reactions to what Clinton says and does, and those two have to be separated thoroughly. I myself at first was not committed to any of the candidates, in fact thought that since she is a front-runner it's a done deal. But little-by-little I started turning against her. Mind you, I am a person who for 15 years defended her from everyone around me who attacked her. And now I got to the point that I cannot stand her. I think she is ruthless and would do anything to destroy her opponent. Remember: a day after she said in a debate that she is honored to run against Barack Obama she was screaming "Shame on you, Barack Obama!" So those who say, "which one is it going to be?" are absolutely correct.

I saw this video the other day and was flat-out horrified. How the hell does the MSM get away with such blatant, outrageous sexism??? If they made even remotely similar crude, crass remarks about Obama, they'd all be fired. What hit me most of all was how many of the male reporters clearly have a major issue with powerful women. What is it, guys, a mother complex, performance anxiety, what??? well, get over it and start at least pretending to do your jo instead of using your spotlight to vent your little-boy terrors. Sickening. (As for the female reporters who follow suit (suits?), I can only say they're worse.)

karela, You are right. Everyone says Hillary is a fighter but how many fights has she won and to whose benefit? She polarizes people hence the need to fight.

I think Mrs. Clinton causes much of her own problem with the press. She stood up there in her St. Patrick's day scarf and told "snipergate" in great detail and she knew it was a giant lie. If she doesn't want to look tight and angry and shrill on national news, she shouldn't call every reporter near at hand to an impromptu news conference and shout "Shame on you." She does it over and over. Mrs. Clinton likes to fight. Everyone near her ends up fighting i.e. healthcare failure in the 90's and her whole campaign in 2008. She fights. It draws attention. She doesn't like the kind of attention she draws, but she can't seem to change her spots.

The article "Lewinsky Scandal follows Chelsea on the Campaign trail" says it all. No mention of Larry Sinclair anywhere. The media will get down in the mud when it comes to women and sexism, but don't touch the golden Harvard Boys. Guess what networks, democratic women are mad as hell and aren't going to take it anymore!

SB is correct in her description of sexism and how it has played out in this country and others. The reason the older women are strong supporters of Hillary is because we have lived through it. We know how it feels to be passed over for promotions for which you are qualified simply because you are a woman. The younger women who support Obama have been beneficiaries of our struggles. Maybe they will understand some of those struggles when McCain becomes our next president. The republicans will double their effort on Roe vs Wade once McCain is elected.

hey Jake - instead of focusing on "sexism" - let's just focus on Double Standards in media coverage - have there been -yes. has there been an outright acceptance of the framing of the delegate pickup as SHE doesn't have enough to win, so she should quit. Whereas HE doesn't have enough to win is never the meme. Yes.

Even in your article, you're picking on every word she says - SHE never says anything about sexism, you're inferring it, and the rest of the media will likely say, Clinton Claims to be victim of Sexism, right? Whereas Obama words are never picked on for traces of race-baiting, never, how dare the media even consider that.

Double Standards are everywhere in the media - from the same old Zogby and Rasmussens polls the media keeps citing (because it shows "Obama surging") even when these specific polls have been wrong. How about the case of Trina Bachtel which some of your colleagues have proven Clinton to be true - and yet the meme that Clinton lied about it keeps circulating and beaten like a dead horse. Compare that to "Passport-gate" as soon as it was discovered Obama's own advisor could be the source, the media shut it down.

Is Clinton fatigue a good reason for the media to be so biased? - where is the respect for the electorate? I suppose that why journalists are suppose to have Ethics and Standards for their work - sadly, no one cares about this anymore.

It's sad when FOX News is providing the most fair coverage for the Dem primary...

they don't have a love affair w/ Obama, which is why they're not providing biased coverage toward Obama at the expense of Hillary Clinton

It cracks me up all the "she can't win" talk. BO should relax, go on an even longer vacation -- he gets so tired with all the campaigning. She can't win, so he should take a month off and get ready for the general. What's the problem?

Of course there's been sexism -- from calling former First Lady, Sen. Clinton, "it," to claiming she's like a nagging wife and on and on. Sexism has been at the root of BO's campaign, coupled with an effort to paint all "typically white people" as racists.

Well, women are pissed -- many of us will not support BO in a general election.

The thing that gets us base Democrats really pissed off is the exclusion of FL and MI. If we count those two contests this thing is tied. And, Democrats, before BO, used to want to count every vote. Talk about hypocritical.

This is so true...

You have exposed another desperate Clinton measure. These things are getting hard to bear!

Playing the gender card (as when she quipped she should get some votes for taking more time in the bathroom to groom herself!) is not going to rescue this blundering campaign...

Whoever gets the popular vote should win and even the superdels tend to think that way...

Unlike Clinton with her preference for cloakroom politics many Dems still believe in democracy over winning at all costs...

Please end this disgrace, Hillary!

Hillary is right there is a double standard if the roles were reversed, Obama would have been pull asided long ago and would have been told to bow out. But Hillary can go on and on destroying the party with nochance of being the nominee

Can anybody tell me Obama's current position on gun control?

Just curious.

What's the scariest thing in the world?

Obama and Pelosi together in DC using all the powers of their office -- socializing America.

The question is being asked of her because she has won fewer contests and received fewer votes, and the primary season is likely to end that way. Therefore, if the superdelegates were to choose her over the winner of the primary season, it would be a coup against the will of Democratic voters. That's why she's being asked if she wants to "win dirty." Most of the superdelegates know that nominating the loser of the primary season, in the absence of a catastrophic crisis that disqualifies the winner, would render the nomination worthless, and wreck the party itself for many years to come.

Hillary continues to paint herself as victim...the fact is she is asked about how she can win enough delegates because there is no way she can win enough pledged delegates to come out with a lead, which in turn is the most likely metric to convince a plurality of the remaining superdelegates to commit!
Yes, I know, *technically* the delegates can vote any way they want, but the political *reality* is, Clinton has lost. Everyone is being very polite and treating her with kid gloves, but sooner or later (I hope sooner) reality has to set in.

The Inconvenient Truth. No need to panic. Just chill out, help is on the way. A lot of Penna Democrats are Senior Citizens which are from the Old Guard mentality. Obama is out of line. You'll see!

Yes there is a Horserace here in Penna. Hillary with her 35 years of combat experience, most recently her heroics in Bosnia, has all the Horses coming to her rescue. As usual Mr. Ed & Mayor Nutter have come out to take Lil Hillary by the hand, spoon fed her, and lead her around to the FUND RAISERS which she enjoys very much.

Senator Obama has been going at it alone. No small task since the The Old Guard Demos mounted a 26 point lead for Hillary when Obama came to town. He has shown us here in Pa. that he is willing to do it the American Way. He works for it.

Hillary Horses have been trained well, they sing many songs of praise for her. However, if you listen closely it becomes quite clear which part of the Horse this talk is coming from. That''s no BS.....

Thanks for the link. The video shows what most of us know. The MSM set out to push her off the bus. On the other hand, I guess one would want to ask given the anti-Hillary statements coming from the female talking heads if it is only misogyny when men say it? Back to the dictionary, Joy Behar, to find a defense for the indefensible.

Oh where oh where is Anita Bryant when the Republicans need her?

This will only get worse. At some point, the hard right wingers will harvest the abundant homophobic sermons from the cable-church shows. The Hollywood elite and the Silicon Valley contributors will get the eye-opener they've been ignoring.

A conversation is two-way or it is just polemic. Obama's campaign has opened a can of worms no one in the country was ready for. Now it's "go fish" season.

Racism and sexism exist in America, and the press reflects those prejudices in its coverage. As a person of color and a woman, I see both playing out in this election cycle. The only beneficiary seems to be John McCain.

On a personal level, I've experienced both sexism and racism and they both hurt, and dehumanize. One doesn't trump the other.

We can continue to bash Obama and Clinton for the Republicans, or we can see beyond the minor policy differences between the Democrats, make a choice at the primary voting booth but ultimately support a Democrat. Neither is perfect, both have lied, but one of them must enter the White House in 2009 if we are to avoid a war with Iran and the corporate takeover of our shared Democratic values.

YOu know Obama's grandmother lives in a hut. Her son went to Ivy league schools and had a PHD. Her grandson went to Ivy league schools and she continues to live in a hut.

Anyone who thinks that sexism isn't pervasive needs to look at the Obama family in Africa and see how it's women live in compared to it's men.

I don't think there is a double standard. I just think there are any standards tat are appropriate dealing with sex and race. She has made some serious mistakes and cries victim when she is criticized. As for others asking her to step down, I always thought that came from her saying McCain had more experience than Obama. If she were a man they would have hit her hard on that one too.
THe Clintons are always complaining about something. Always have been always will be. It's disheartening how they always play the victim. I hope the America people are as tired of it as I am.

Is the media going to fall for this again like they did before Ohio and Texas. Bill Clinton said 2 weeks ago. If you can't take the campaign get out of it. Perhaps she should take her husband's advice.

s.b., get a grip.

Hillary does not represent most women - she definitely doesn't represent me.

Obama 08

Wow one sentence to justify disenfranchising 2.3 million voters.

Hillary has always maintained, as has the DNC by the way, that MI and FL wopuld be seated at convention.

They just didn't think it would effect the outcome. This is still what Howard Dean is hoping for.

You can't disenfranchise 2.3 million voters 8% of the electorate and win the white house.

One sentence from one candidate is not justification for disenfranchising anyone.

You either want to win the white house or you don't. Obama cant win without MI and FL.

You can scream about one sentence or rules of which there are many that can also reinstate them, or removing a name from the ballot which the candidate himself requested and was not necessary.

However, the FACT and it is a FACT remains, he can't win by disenfranchising MI and FL. That's 8% of the electoral college folks.

You want to win the nomination with MI an FL, or you dont want to win in NOV.

There are no justifications that change that fact.

s.b. - enough "misstatements".

The Democratic Party said to all the candidates at the news of the primaries in Michigan and Florida picking their own date earlier than agreed, that those votes would not count. All candidates understood that and knew that those primaries would not count.
Hillary is quoted on New Hampshire NPR saying that those primaries wouldn't count. Now that she's not the frontrunner and barely able to stay in the race, of course she wants those votes to count. Her campaign is in such shambles now - even those states wouldn't help her.

duh

By the way, last time I checked, every race is made up of 50% women who are oppressed more than their male counterparts, in every part of the world.

Sexism is much worse, much more accepted and universal. Racism is not.

How about all those women we are helping out in Iraq and Afghanistan??? No one even cares. Sexism is worse, everywhere.

Ann Althouse should be applauded, that video was on the mark. I will remember how MSNBC and the other have used their airtime and will vote for Hillary on april 22 in PA. As a son, with a great mom if "Kieth O" ever spoke that way about her I would find him and punch him in the mouth....he deserves it.

Hillary started ahead by 20% in most polls.

Since then, state elections results were basically split 50/50 through super Tuesday.

Hillary still had major leads in many states, but she ended up losing several elections in a row.

In life, starting ahead by 20%, but losing with the race almost over is not a good sign.

If it wasn't for Hillary's initial 100+ super delegate lead before any states voted, things would be even worse.

Given the Democratic party proportional allotment of delegates, Hillary needs to win 70% of the votes from this point on to be ahead in the pledged delegate count.

It's true she could lead in the votes cast. There were several states who had caucuses instead of primaries. States decide what type of election they want. These states chose this format because it saves them millions of dollars.

DNC rules say the delegates, not the votes decide things. All Democratic candidates signed the rules, so they know what is fair. Any candidate who doesn't like the rules, should never sign their name to agree to the rules.

Hillary and Obama are both lawyers, they fully understand the rules. No one in America wants a politician who doesn't abide by the laws.

By the way, Obama's campaign organizers in Michigan, and he does have campagin organizers in Michigan have asked that he let the results stand and the delegates be seated.

They know the consequences if this doesnt happen. He loses the white house.

Obama chose to remove his name from the michigan ballot. This was a campaign choice, not a DNC requirement. he did so to gain favour in Iowa.

His choice. Uncommitted delegates can vote fro him if they want. This is not a reason to disenfranchise Michigan.

Again why nominate the man if he can't win in NOV?

And he can't win in Nov without Michigan and Florida.

Obama chose to remove his name from the michigan ballot. This was a campaign choice, not a DNC requirement. he did so to gain favour in Iowa.

His choice. Uncommitted delegates can vote fro him if they want. This is not a reason to disenfranchise Michigan.

Again why nominate the man if he can't win in NOV?

And he can't win in Nov without Michigan and Florida.

By the way, disenfranchising Michigan and Florida guarentees a Republican white house.

I have never heard anything so ludicrous as the 50/50 split proposed by Obama, like its not disenfranchising 2.3 million voters.

Why nominate the man when he can't win without these states? MI and Fl need to be reinstated now, as is.

Without this there is no democrat in the white house.

Where is the press on this? Honestly it doesn't matter what the Obama camp or Howard Dean or anyone elese in any other part of the county thinks. All that matters is what voters in MI and FL think and they want their votes counted as is or MI and FL go Republican in Nov.

The clichee's baby with the bath water, forrest for the trees are so obvious here. You cant determine the nominee until MI and FL are reinstated, as is because Obama wouldn't agree to a revote.

There is no reason for these voters, or the Clinton campaign to accept anything less. Obama was given the chance to have a revote he blocked it.

Democrats either want to win the white house or they don't.

s.b.
Pay attention:

OBAMA WASN'T EVEN LISTED ON THE MICHIGAN BALLOT

That's not an election.

duh

Ok, case in point about a terribly mismanaged campaign here's an article from CBS news in California:
"The University of California in Davis is ready to take the Clinton presidential campaign to a collection agency if they do not pay back the thousands of dollars they are still owed.

Here's a breakdown of expenses:

- The UC Davis Marching Band cost $500.
- Cleanup services after the rally cost $250.
- UC Davis Police officers didn't come as cheap. The security bill is more than $5,600.

"I'm more than willing to be held accountable for it, because that's the way life is," Hillary Clinton said to a Montana crowd on Monday. There is no word whether she'll apply that philosophy here, or if she even knows about the outstanding debt.

Her Sacramento campaign office closed its doors after Super Tuesday, and her campaign spokespeople didn't return my calls.

UC Davis is planning to put its final bill out this week, and if the debt has not been settled within a month, they are going to turn the matter over to a collection agency."

And Hillary is prepared to lead the nation out of bad economic times?

Give me a break!!

The reason Hillary is getting bad press is she is at the helm of a poorly managed campaign, she "misstates" facts A LOT, and appears to be disingenuous.
She gives the press plenty of material because she does not research and get facts prior to speaking.

Her campaign is done, it's just a matter of waiting on her to realize it.

sob sob sob.....Hillary is doing just what we all guessed "The gender" card. Barack is not using his race to complain about press or McCain about his age , but Hillary is a placid whiner!!

I don't like Hillary Clinton very much but if Obama doesn't get the nomination I will hold my nose and vote for her. It is really, really important for the democrats to take back the White House. For all you revenge voters - you are fools if you think you are hurting anyone but yourselves.

It is so sad to read all the stuff i'm reading on this blog. Instead of trying to tear each other apart why don't we concentrate on the republicans. mccain is out there with people who have been making racial remarks about Obama. This is the reason why we as Democrats don't win, we are too busy tearing each other down rather than concentrating on the republicans. WAKE UP DEMOCRATS, IT'S OUR TIME MAKE IT COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey sandy in pa,
the bias media keeps telling us obama is gaining on hillary there. of course you cannot trust it.
please I hope you all will not let us down. he may have more money, and that smile-but pa do not be fooled-obama is not ready to be president. and if we want to have any hope for nov. we need to get hillary in.
we know what the rep. will bring to attack hillary-and she can take it.
but we are still everyday-finding out something new about obama-who knows what the rep. already have. he will not win against mccain.
please sandy in pa-tell all-you all
correct this mistake that is happening.
we know nc is blindly voting for obama
I am even of the mind that if they
even found him in bed with a dead body
they would still vote for him. just because he is black.
pa right this wrong.
vote hillary

I don't see a double standard at all. Sen. Obama will win more than 50% of the Pledged Delegates, so if the super delegate/politburo system didn't exist he would be the outright winner. Sen. Clinton will win less than 50% of the elected delegates. The Super Delegates by picking Sen. Obama will NOT be overturning the will of the majority of the democratic party voters. The super delegates by picking Sen. Clinton WILL be overturning the will of the democratic party voters. Overturning the will of the voters, or not overturing the will of the voters are exact opposite situations, not a "double standard". If Sen. Clinton doesn't understand this difference, its hard to imagine that she has the intellectual talent to be president. If she does understand the difference, her comments are very disingenuous.

You bet the media has trashed Hillary with sexist comments, while all but ignoring Obama's own chauvinism. Here's a recap of Obama's comments to women on a recent day on the campaign trail in PA.

At recent campaign stops in Allentown and Scranton on April 1st, Senator Obama turned on what he thought was "charm" with the ladies, in a pitiful attempt to get their votes. While touring a factory in Allentown, he flirted with the women there, addressing them as "Sweetie" and "Beautiful". Later that day in Scranton, he came upon Denise Mercuri, a Dunmore pharmacist and Clinton supporter, proudly wearing a Hillary campaign button. He approached her to find out what he had to do to get her vote. His offer? Getting down on his knees, and a kiss. Is this all he has to offer women or is this what he thinks we actually want? I knew Obama lacked experience and had a very disturbing relationship with Jeremiah Wright. Well, we can now add chauvinism to the list of reasons why he should not be the Democratic candidate. Newsflash to Barack: Most women are nothing like your "Obama Girl". We don't have a crush on you and your recent behavior shows that you are nothing but a condescending chauvinist who thinks that flirting and kisses will turn all the ladies' heads and votes your way.

I'm voting for Hillary Clinton.

I think that there have been two things working against Hillary Clinton in the media's bias:

First, she is punished for Bill's affairs. It is evident that people still have very raw feelings about some of what transpired in the Whitehouse when he was president and believe that she should have left him. Those are personal decisions. But to ask Chelsea about Monica or make references to where Bill would be when Hillary is answering the phone at 3:00 AM is not appropriate in a political discussion. The media using words like "pimped out" shows their prejudice.

Second, when you look at the video tape -- and at local news broadcasts not captured there -- when critical words are used about Senator Clinton they are always female stereotypical words at their worst and color the public's perceptions. The least flattering photos of Senator Clinton are the ones -- taken from archives -- that adorn news columns.

Voters who support her policies can separate the hit job being done on her from the real candidate. Those very passionate about it will punish Senator Obama for his silence on the subject. That is how it will even itself out.

"She ain't Mother Teresa."

Actually, Hillary has been honored with the Mother Teresa Award. You probably missed it buried among her long list of accomplishments.

Objectively speaking, Barack can't win for one big reason: The Swing States will go to Mccain. No swing states= Democrats lose. It's that simple. Mccain will win in Penn, Florida, and Ohio vs Barack. All the other red states Barack won vs Hillary will go republican. At least with Hillary, she can win Ohio, Penn, Florida against Mccain.

I've noticed a disturbing trend on these boards, and this is as good a place to mention it as any.

Obama supporters talk hope and unity, but when a Hillary supporter says (s)he'll vote for McCain over Obama, they get hit with a nasty response. Often it's an attempt to browbeat, sometimes it's a childish "nananana so will I if Hillary wins".

Rather than change, this mimics the worst kind of behavior we've seen from the Republican party during recent decades. Furthermore, since Obama claims his presidency will be "ground up" this behavior only serves to push people further away from Obama.

Obama followers just don't get it. This has nothing to do with thinking McCain is the perfect candidate; it has everything to do with Obama being perfectly unacceptable to so many people (and it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of his skin). He's outspent Hillary 2 to 1, 3 to 1, 4 to 1, 5 to 1. Why hasn't he been able to seal the deal yet? Even if he ekes out a nomination, do you really believe he can win the White House?

I havent seen sexism but there has been outright BIAS against Hillary Clinton. I dont think it has to do with the fact she is a woman . Its to do with owns the media. I still havent figured out if the really or for Obama, or just want Clinton out so Mc Cain can lower corporate taxes.

Numbers can lie when they're based on suspect caucuses, Republican "Democrats for a day" and all the free promotion the MSM can provide.

They're selling us Obama just like they sold us GWB, and we all know how that turned out.

In fact why bother with an election? I'm waiting for the Supreme Court to anoint him any day.

This is for those who think Clinton doesn't care about the small votes. If she didn't she would be out of the race. She has said time and time again let all votes be heard. Since Montana is one of those small states, I guess she cares because they have yet to vote.

Caucuses are undemocratic. The votes at caucuses are not private. They are disorganized and dienfranchise voters like my husband who works second shift. The outcomes are very easily swayed like in our District in Kansas. The doors to the auditorium were not closed at 7 pm and people were let inside the building until after 7 pm.

So those of you who have never caucused have no idea what is like. I will never caucus again. I do not understand why we even caucused, Kansas had not done it in over 20 years. The reason I think we did was because our Democratic Party led by Sebelius did not have the money to pay for a primary and Sebelius did not want to use state monsy. What a joke!

What?? the media is bias aginst Clinton!!! give us a break its the other way around. The negative publicity that was raked up by Clinton was made by the Clinton camp. The Bosnia sniper saga, the Penn Columbia trade deal which is a wink wink, The woman hospitalized which in turn false story, the Tax Return with lots of money and all other negatives was not the making of the media, the media only report it. The problem is Hillary, she is not prepared to win and she is not ready to lose also. What a whining!!!!

Sexism no doubt plays apart in this election,there are some men and probably some women who doesn't want a woman for president. I don't think that is totally why Hillary is losing. Her character flaws are her downfall. Arrogance: I am a Clinton I deserve to win.Conceit:being first lady does not qualify one to be president.Her white house schedule even though does not deny,but does neither confirms her experience argument.Good judgment should come with experience;well after all Hillary did vote for the Iraq war.Deliberate deception:We landed under sniper fire and had to run to our vehicles.Blatant disregards for rules,esp when they are not in her favor,If anyone thinks that HRC would be advocating for FL and MI if she did not need them to help close her delagate count is delusional. If these states were to benefit Obama she would be yelling foul.Not to mention her win at all cost attitude,her high negatives,and her unlikability.

No more Clintons!

"But I think the question is being asked because Clinton is trailing in delegates and the Democrats' proportionally-allocated delegate system means the math is tough for her.

"Numbers aren't sexist."

You really puzzle me.

No, numbers aren't sexist; but spin is. As Hillary said, Obama can't win without Superdelegate support, either. Whenever Obama or one of his supporters says that Hillary can't win on pledged delegates, he's implying that he can; and that's disingenuous, insincere and hypocritical. And nobody calls him on it. Nobody. Why is that?

Furthermore, the Democratic primary system was designed to be undemocratic the way it is for a reason. If the Superdelegates slavishly follow the popular vote, they completely undermine the reason they were created in the first place. Obama has repeatedly accused Hillary of trying to change the rules regarding the Florida and Michigan vote in midstream, implying that he doesn't try to change the rules in midstream. But in promoting the idea, early and often, that the Superdelegates should fall in line with the popular vote, this is exactly what he is trying to do. Again, he is disingenuous, insincere and hypocritical; and again, nobody calls him on it. Nobody.

I don't know if the MSM is cynical, has contempt for the public or is just plain stupid, but they had better realize that their credibility is at stake. America is finally waking up to the incredible media bias in this country.

This primary has deeply saddened me. I didn't realize how much sexism still exists in this country. As far as the person who said racism trumps sexism, please reflect on this: When someone says something that could even remotely be interperted as racist, the media is appalled and all over it for months. If someone makes a blatant sexist remark, not only does the press not call them on it, they laugh. Seems more acceptable?
As far as the math, I wonder what it would be if the media had promoted Clinton, like they have Obama, and said negative things about him daily. When you hear something over and over again, you start to believe it. I have had to stop watching Cnn and msnbc. Hillary supporters are watching fox because , as Ed Rendell said, they hate both canidates, so get equal treatment. I feel like I'm watching a 24 hour commercial for Obama everywhere else. The selling of a president, just like they sold the Iraq war. I just hope we don't end up with the same results.

There is definitely a bias especially with regard to Clinton lies as opposed to Obama meant to say this. She has had gaffs, Obama has lied. About ties to Rezko, his relationships with the black panther groups and what he has accomplished in his Chicago district. We know nothing about the man. Many media are afraid of the racist label. Which is pinned to anyone who questions him.

I was a Hillary supporter...but she is really starting to bore me with her "sexist" media crap. Yes, because it was "sexism" that made you the frontrunner to start, right?

I guess your view changes when you're constantly looking at someone else's backside.

If Wyoming and Montana were the states with voters that are being disenfranchised, would Hillary even care? No, just the ones that will inflate her numbers.

There will come a time where NO ONE will feel sorry for Florida anymore. Their problem is obviously bigger than this nomination.

So we are supposed to hand the nomination to Clinton because two states screwed it up for themselves? I don't really care if Michigan and Florida do decide the election. As long as Hillary doesn't win, I'm happy.

Let me remind people that she wouldn't have been in this situation in the first place if her campaing strategy was not "I deserve this because I'm a Clinton/woman/from a more important big state/ (circle one)." She underestimated Barack Obama and she assumed incorrectly that her negativity rating would not matter (it has). Even if Obama loses, in mere terms of fundraising power, he will still have clout. If Clinton loses, well she'll always have New York.

Hillary simultaneously lowering the bar for herself and raising the bar for Obama. She has discounted caucuses as democratic (because she didn't win them), discounted smaller states (because she didn't win them), and claiming that Michigan and Florida need to count because she "won" them. Meanwhile, she is recasting herself as the underdog, claiming that Obama is really losing because she is not "putting her away." That is kind of like the New England Patriots going into the SB as the heavy favorites, coming out of the third quarter in a neck to neck game, and then saying in the final two minutes "well now that you have proved us to be a formidable opponent, we will only acknowledge your supremacy if you kick our butts." Obama had the better game plan, period.

Sometimes the favorite can get themselves back in the game. Blaming the refs isn't going to do it.

I have tried to be patient with the Obama supporters.
1. The PEOPLE of Fl and Mi did not agree to anything- much less to be disenfranchised - and they are the ones that matter, not any politician.
2. Obama's rock star status gave him name recognition. Oprah held his hand everywhere.
3. Obama was the ONLY one to break the rules and campaigned in Florida via his very expensive TV ads- and Hillary still won.
4. A re-vote is exactly that- a re-vote and it gives Obama the edge since supposedly he improves with time, like a fine wine.
5. Hillary did NOT campaign anywhere. Obama ran ads in Fl and told people to vote uncommitted in Mi. Kind of like his "present" votes in the Senate.
6. Punish the democratic voters in 2 very important states and you can kiss the election goodbye in Nov.
7. Look up the role of superdelegates for yourselves… otherwise they will close this post before I can educate all of you.