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The Key Keystone State
April 21, 2008 8:12 AM
Greetings from the City of Brotherly Love, located in the key Keystone state. A win for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, here tomorrow could end this race. But Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, has consistently led in the polls here.
A big question being debated -- how big does her win need to be?
Filmmaker Rob Reiner told voters in Sunday that the "W" needs to be sizable.
"Not to put any pressure on you folks, but this is it, this is it," Reiner said. "We're gonna we win, no doubt about it, but we gotta win big. If we win big, we're going to wind up with more votes than Barack Obama. It's gonna be a very big decision for the superdelegates."
The latest Quinnipiac poll has the race fairly static, Clinton leads Obama 51% to 44%.
Other key findings -- women are backing Clinton 57-38….men are backing Obama 53-42….White Catholics are for Clinton 66-29….Voters over 45 back Clinton 54-40…Under 45 go for Obama 57-41.
"Pennsylvania voters apparently made up their minds a couple of weeks ago and nothing has happened since to change them," said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "An extraordinary turnout effort by Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign could snatch this victory from Sen. Hillary Clinton, but that does not appear likely. Sen. Obama got off message after his ‘bitter’ remarks and never regained his momentum, giving Sen. Clinton the opening to fight another day in Indiana and North Carolina."
You can read our report from GMA this a.m. HERE and watch it HERE.
- jpt
UPDATE: The source of the Reiner quote, NPR, originally reported that the comment was by Gov. Ed Rendell, not Rob Reiner. It was Reiner.
April 21, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (119)
All I can say is: the Mainstream Media Men (and truthfully the various network spin Doctors and Pundits and journalists are a VAST MAJORITY of MEN):
I have come to the conclusion that MEN that have the power within the Mainstream Media are trying to twist and spin their on-air time and their articles being ANTI-HILLARY and PRO-OBAMA. Let's face the truth: these Mainstream Men are scared of seeing a woman get elected as President. It's THAT SIMPLE.
Everybody dances around WHY the Mainstream Media men are ANTI-Hillary and Pro-obama. But that is the REAL reason.
THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA MEN HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THINKING THAT A WOMAN CAN REALLY BE PRESIDENT.
If the majority of Mainstream Media people and Journalists were WOMEN, there might be a more FAIR AND BALANCED presentation of these Candidates, and BOTH OF THEM WOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, not just the MAN candidate, even if he is "1/2 Black".
Face it, America: we have a Media that is scared of the POWER OF A WOMAN. Until we can get MORE WOMEN in Media and Journalist Positions that can TAKE OTHER WOMEN SERIOUSLY who choose to run for office, WE WILL LOSE THE EXPERTISE OF PEOPLE LIKE HILLARY CLINTON, because the current Mainstream Media Men who control "stuff" that is put out there (news, stories, commentary, debate) ARE JUST PLAIN SCARED OF A POWERFUL WOMAN.
Get READY, America, cause women are NOT GONNA QUIT TRYING.
Posted by: Obama is NOT getting MY VOTE !! | Apr 21, 2008 10:01:44 PM
Hey, Pennsylvania Voters.......if you are still undecided as to whether to vote for Hillary or obama, consider this:
A lot goes into choosing a Nomination Candidate----"liking the candidate" is ONE THING, but most importantly is whether the Candidate can go up against McCain for the Presidency----which one of these two Candidates-----Hillary or obama----can actually FOLLOW-THROUGH with the SOLUTIONS they have laid out for the problems that our country faces because of Bush??
Which candidate has plans and solutions at ALL for America?
It's CLEARLY HILLARY CLINTON.
Which Candidate can stand the criticizing from the Republicans and still come out stronger-----not whining that "the other side is getting negative"?
It's CLEARLY HILLARY. Hillary has a BACKBONE, and can dish it out as well as she takes it. obama wilts under pressure.
Who do you KNOW MORE ABOUT, and has weathered past accusations of 'scandals"----has nothing 'hiding in their background" that could cost the Democrats the White House if they become the Nominee? And who has TRUELY worked for the rights of African Americans-----for YEARS?
It's CLEARLY HILLARY.
VOTE FOR HILLARY TOMORROW, Pennsylvania-----SHE SPEAKS FOR YOU, and has proven she can deliver ACTION, not PROMISES.
Posted by: Give Hillary a PA BLOW-OUT !! | Apr 21, 2008 9:38:50 PM
If the media would have told the truth months ago, the Senator from Illinois would have been out of the Democratic race months ago.
Just study Obama's tax plan that will hurt the Middle Class and retirees and you will change your mind. If not open your pockets. Don't forget the never ending closed doors Obama actions pertaining to NAFTA and pulling out of Iraq. Obama lied and started saying that he had no control of his campaign committee now known as the 'Obama mafia'. If Obama cannot control his own committee, he will be another Bush. Isn't 8 years enough?
Posted by: Dr Hubert, Lt Col, USAF Retired | Apr 21, 2008 6:37:30 PM
Financial Times endorsed Obama. He has many more donors than Clinton so he is able to spend more on his campaign. Hillary blew her big donor war chest on 5 star hotels and snow shovels in Iowa. She is unable to manage money, her staff or her campaign and expects us to believe she can manage a country? Obama has run a fiscally efficient and inspired campaign. Just like a good government should be run.
Posted by: Mathis | Apr 21, 2008 5:52:34 PM
Please PA...enough Bush/Clinton division and scandal.These families have brought America down morally and financially. Washington needs a makeover and global respect that Obama will bring.
Posted by: Catherine | Apr 21, 2008 5:44:25 PM
Thanks Cathy, I think it will be a very big win. In fact, I would not be surprised if it is over 10 points.
Posted by: Ken | Apr 21, 2008 5:22:10 PM
I'm taking a break calling voters here in Pennsylvania. I'm kind of shy but I feel strongly about Sen. Clinton so I'm making these calls. I've spoken to a couple of undecideds, had a couple of angry Obama supporters hang up on me but the real news is how positive Pennsylvanians are for Clinton. If my calls are any indication, she's going to win big!
My opinion, by the way, is that a "win is a win" - I've heard that he is outspending her by as much 4 to 1. That really seems obscene! I have to ask why is he working so hard with such a meager result?
Posted by: Cathy | Apr 21, 2008 5:05:18 PM
Ed Rendell, in 1997, on Louis Farrakhan:
"My respect for him has grown... for the intensity of his beliefs... for the decency of his soul... and for the strength of his courage."
Louis Farrakhan in 1996, the Saviours' Day Speech:
"And you do with me as is written, but remember that I have warned you that Allah will punish you. You are wicked deceivers of the American people. You have sucked their blood. You are not real Jews, those of you that are not real Jews. You are the synagogue of Satan, and you have wrapped your tentacles around the U.S. government, and you are deceiving and sending this nation to hell. But I warn you in the name of Allah, you would be wise to leave me alone. But if you choose to crucify me, know that Allah will crucify you."
Posted by: primarily | Apr 21, 2008 3:49:12 PM
hillary doesnt need your money she has millions-- let her use her own money!!
Posted by: melissa | Apr 21, 2008 3:00:57 PM
I REALLY THINK POEOPLE HAVE LOST THIER MINDS! OBAMA IS A HYPOCRITE? REALLY LOOK INTO EVERYTHING HILLARY HAS SAID AND YOU WILL SEE SHE HAS ALSO DONE AND SAID THE OPPOSITE OF IT!!!
Posted by: melissa | Apr 21, 2008 2:58:03 PM
So then, IF Senator Clinton wins big in Pa she lives to fight on. Perhaps even get the nod from her party and goes on to beat up the old guy and win the general.
Then some crackerjack reporter digs into the vote and finds crossover republicans, trying to nix Senator Obama’s bid, were responsible for her large primary win in Pa. that propels her into the general.
At that point the country unifies and comes together like never before over the definition of the word Irony.
Posted by: Smith | Apr 21, 2008 2:22:49 PM
Time to plan on attending the convention, it's going to be a Doozy!
Time to donate for the next primary.
Time to tell the DNC we will never vote for anyone but Hillary!
BO is a hypocrite and a phony politician of the worst kind.
Posted by: HP Boston | Apr 21, 2008 1:47:17 PM
I think she will win by 10. Then maybe John Edward's will endorse her.
Clinton supporters we need to support our candidate with more than talk. SEND A CONTRIBUTION! Even if it is only ten dollars.
Posted by: Ken | Apr 21, 2008 1:14:41 PM
LATEST McClatchy poll:
Hillary up by only 5 points
8% undecided.
Posted by: jbate | Apr 21, 2008 1:03:39 PM
edith:
No one gives a damn what color you are.
Posted by: jbate | Apr 21, 2008 1:01:47 PM
@lookup:
Sho'nuff t'is.
Perfect communication is being understood in context somewhat like Obama flipping off his opponent with a gesture that the crowd immediately understood. He did that perfectly.
Posted by: len | Apr 21, 2008 12:20:22 PM
We can see through it jbate. Nice try.
Posted by: rco | Apr 21, 2008 12:19:06 PM
candidate's trying to scare you and the other one's trying to get you to think; if one candidate's appealing to your fears and the other one's appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope. That's the best.”
Posted by: Bill's Advice | Apr 21, 2008 11:57:34
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OBAMA SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME!!!
I HOPE HE LOSES BIG TIME WE NEED A WOMAN FOR A CHANGE!
VOTE HILLARY! YES YOU CAN!
Posted by: HP Boston | Apr 21, 2008 12:08:36 PM
AMERICANS BEWARE!
HILLARY CLINTON IS OPERATING IN THE RED!
Posted by: finance | Apr 21, 2008 12:02:33 PM
Breaking news- Michael Moore attacks Hillary today!
Posted by: rco | Apr 21, 2008 11:59:47 AM
The Obama campaign announced that it got the support of superdelegate/Ohio DNC member Enid Goubeaux.
The superdelegate count now is: Clinton 262, Obama 238. Clinton's lead has shrunk to 24...
Obama leads by 142 in the overall count: 1,655-1,513.
He also leads by 166 in the pledged delegate count: 1,417-1,251.
Posted by: polly | Apr 21, 2008 11:59:31 AM
Bill Clinton in 2004:
“Now one of Clinton’s Laws of Politics is this: If one candidate's trying to scare you and the other one's trying to get you to think; if one candidate's appealing to your fears and the other one's appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope. That's the best.”
Posted by: Bill's Advice | Apr 21, 2008 11:57:34 AM
Obama gained a SD today Enid Goubeaux
Posted by: Vanessa | Apr 21, 2008 11:57:05 AM
Hillary Clinton, I have a question for you. Where's the campaign contribution for March/April? All the Millions raised, did David Copperfield make them disappear? Did Bill invest in Elliot Spitzers business in Washington?
Posted by: Owen | Apr 21, 2008 11:53:33 AM
Hillary for President in 08 the only way Obama can win is by leaving out FL. and MI.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 21, 2008 11:50:41 AM
len: Even in the "South" that wouldn't be perfect English?
Obama all the way!
Posted by: Lookup | Apr 21, 2008 11:47:40 AM
i agree i want to have a woman in the white house too and i want her to be great, i dont think that hillary is that person she is more like a hypocritical robot!! women are way better than that!
Posted by: melissa | Apr 21, 2008 11:41:36 AM
carpenter.nyc: If you're really from NYC, you're STILL a Clinton supporter? Interesting. I thought real New Yorkers viewed her as they do Guiliani -- as a joke.
Posted by: Mother | Apr 21, 2008 11:40:00 AM
Bishop: You routinely make the least incisive comments on these blogs. As a blind Clinton support I wish you could at least embrace a logic routed in some semblance of reason, rather than adopt the specious arguments that have led your "candidate" to ruin. She is a disaster. Get a grip. Understand that. I don't want another disaster leading this country. She can't manage her family. She can't manage herself. She can't manage her campaign. But, yeah, for the hell of it, for the novelty of electing a woman, let's give this liar the chance to further destroy the country. You're out of your mind. And to the feminists out there who may be outraged by the backlash to Clinton, consider this...as a feminist, I think she is doing (and would continue to do) far greater damage to breaking that "glass ceiling) than if it were done by someone worthy. I don't want Hillary Clinton to be President because she would -- as she has shown in this very campaign -- undermine the future feminist cause by being a DISASTER. In subsequent years, people who are somewhat reluctant to voting for a woman, will look back and point to her as a fine example of why not to. In breaking barriers, the ones doing so must have integrity (which she does not). That is why those people are later revered. Clinton is not that woman. Never has been. Never will be.
Posted by: Mother | Apr 21, 2008 11:36:27 AM
Yes, Hillary will win Pa but it won't matter. Obama will be the nominee
Posted by: lisa | Apr 21, 2008 11:36:12 AM
SURVEYUSA's NEW PA POLL IS UP!
HILLARY DROPS 8 POINTS!
SurveyUSA: "Last week, SurveyUSA had Clinton ahead by 14 points. Monday, in a poll conducted using the identical methodology, SurveyUSA found Clinton ahead by 6 points."
Posted by: pollster | Apr 21, 2008 11:35:57 AM
Pa will go for Clinton Women are coming out in record numbers thier are more white guy's daily getting behind Hillary they know who put the food back on the table in 93 thier not stupid plus they are 80% catholic in Pa. And for Hillary
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 21, 2008 11:34:48 AM
Bill didn't go to their house afterwards for a welcome home party
OBAMBI SOCIALIZED with the AYERS....
" STICK A FORK IN IT " MRS.AYERS
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | Apr 21, 2008 11:32:07 AM
Vanessa: Good point. I've been on the fence here in PA for a long time, but because of that debate I donated $500 to Obama's campaign, the first time I had done so for any candidate during this cycle. He will get more for the general election. This thing is over. Hillary can't and shouldn't compete. She is wholly out of her league.
Posted by: Carrie J. | Apr 21, 2008 11:29:13 AM
Obama has lost it for the democrats he can't win the GE hs should drop out go home and grow up.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 21, 2008 11:27:18 AM
carpenternyc: Again, what's your rationale? President Bush authorized a war in Iraq and American soldiers died and as voters we, as a nation, elected him, so does that mean that all Americans are also responsible for personally killing US soldiers? By your reasoning, that's exactly what you're saying, which I don't think is what you mean to say at all.
Posted by: Delusional Nitwit | Apr 21, 2008 11:26:45 AM
WestCoastMessenger , you didn't call Obama a fine young man last night, In fact you used derogatory words to describe him. I agree with you on one point though, you'll support her to the end and that's very loyal. Unfortunately, the end is NYC not the White House.
Posted by: Owen | Apr 21, 2008 11:25:40 AM
If you go on the Obama website, he has 1.3 million+ donors who donates to him on a regular basis at an average of $90-$95
He's trying to reach 1.5 million donors by May 6
Which is why I think the abc debate was great
He raised alot of money after the debate and also gained ground in PA
Posted by: Vanessa | Apr 21, 2008 11:25:18 AM
Hillary's going to win. Hillary's going to be the next President. Hillary's going to make everything better. Hillary doesn't lie. Hillary told me I can be Vice-President. Hillary is going to work with Republicans. Hillary can work with Democrats. Hillary has money. Hillary is real. Hillary's eyes really ARE blue, they're not contact lenses to make her look...whatever...
Posted by: Delusional Nitwit | Apr 21, 2008 11:23:30 AM
as a black person let me tell you:
Obama aint no president!~
Posted by: edith | Apr 21, 2008 11:20:59 AM
The Clinton campaign NEVER paid the healthcare costs of her staffers! She LIED again. does anyone think she'll be able to make good on her promises? I don't...not anymore...not HilLIARly!!!
Posted by: Betty G. | Apr 21, 2008 11:20:27 AM
The Express (Hillary Clinton) has no cloths and is full of "hot air".
Obama wins Penn, we will see a total melt down from Hillary Clinton.
Obama wins Penn by 10% points.
Obama all the way!
Posted by: Lookup | Apr 21, 2008 11:20:25 AM
Hillary Clinton,
We'll support you all the way. Don't listen to the naysayers like Owen, BKMC, dl, Vanessa who's only goal is to create disruption and chaos in this country. We need a strong President, like you, not a wimp like the other guy. I'm sure Barack Obama is a fine, young gentleman, but we need someone like you that knows how to get things done.
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Hillary Clinton, Madam President to-be!
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 21, 2008 11:18:36 AM
We need to have an investigation piece done by the media looking into the massive mismanagement of campaign funds by Hillary Clinton's team. Seriously, where has all the money gone? It dowsn't want to make you contribute any more dows it? This will make for a fascinating investigational. Hillary and Bill have already booked a vacation rental property in Martha's Vineyard for the month of September! Go figure- right in the middle of a critical race for President!!
Posted by: rco | Apr 21, 2008 11:17:12 AM
Victor,
That is correct. Clinton overtook Obama on the daily Gallup tracking poll after being down but at least 20 points below Obama on some polls. It's amazing what a little bit of sunlight does to the Obama people. It reminds me of that movie "I am Legend".
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Obama and Rezko! Lest we forget!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 21, 2008 11:10:36 AM
A win is a win. Spin is spin.
Don't let the Obamites fool you. This is going all the way to the convention floor. Good government is too important to give up our future to thugs.
People need jobs. The Clintons have made this happen. Her crew is the only crew in the race with a record of making that happen.
Think smart. Hope is a good feeling; a paycheck and a realizable hope is better. The best track record doesn't always win but it is always the way to bet.
Posted by: len | Apr 21, 2008 11:10:31 AM
I'm sorry but Wright did Obama in all the money in the world will not make a difference nobody is undecided at this point that is just media bs. I do wonder why he kept a friendship with so many radical left wingers most voters are middle age and have long ago given up the truly liberal thinking it would take to be able to accept his friends.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 21, 2008 11:10:14 AM
Well shegirl look how many blacks and men are with BO! 99% of blacks are voting for him, the gender hate is accepted and the men are so afraid of a strong woman as you must know! So do not go with the racist crap on us, it is a ploy of Barry's whole campaign, I know, I lived it in Massachusetts and stupidly voted for Deval and he is a total failure! I have heard the same crap as Bo is spewing and I should have voted for the WOMAN! A REPUBLICAN!
The dem party is not picking for me, I will vote my choice Hillary, even if I have to write her in, the party is sick!
Posted by: HP Boston | Apr 21, 2008 11:08:51 AM
I heard Clinton's poll number raised after the ABC debate, for the first time after March 18-20.
One time the media was tough on him, or not protecting him, he lost quite some of his shining clothes.
Clear indication how Obama got here.
Some of those Obama people who cried ABC should have focused on "issues" have always been saying so whenever Obama has a negative thing showing up, sounding like we terribly want to go over again the 3% differences between them on policies after 20 debates.
Posted by: Victor | Apr 21, 2008 11:06:45 AM
no shelgirl,
don't you all go down that road today
use it for pointing out your candidates good.
please,
jgaw
signing off
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 21, 2008 11:04:06 AM
I THINK SOMEONE SHOULD FIND OUT WHERE OBAMA REALLY GETS HIS BIG FUNDS.IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF LITTLE DONORS TO MAKE THAT UP.PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK.INSULTS US.GOOD LUCK PA TOMORROW.
Posted by: betty | Apr 21, 2008 11:01:44 AM
what about the feelings of bigotry and fear. Why won't anyone say it out loud and in plain language. The rural whites in PA and all around the place the "working class whites" are not voting for Obama because he is black and they would not vote for any candidate who is black whether they had the excuse of Rev. Wright or Ayers. I am tired of this dance.
Clinton's argument is that a large enough portion of the American White electorate would never vote for a NEGRO and therefore democrats better choose her or lose the election for sure.
This election is in no small part a referendum on whether that statement and sentiment is true and Obama and his people should not have been afraid to challenge the American people directly on this point. If it is true we need to know it and deal with it including trying to correct it and maybe even letting America suffer with Bush and his ilk as the leader such a citizenry deserves.
I mean please just look at tne "latest" PA polls and the so called "undecideds" It is sickening and I hope the whole world watches and sees the hypocrisy of America as it condemns the "ethnic" violence in Iraq or anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: shelgirl | Apr 21, 2008 10:59:22 AM
Calling all Internet Obama supporters- Please do everything you can to get out the Obama vote tomorrow! Show your numbers, your vocal support- bring your signs, be proud, upbeat, and encouraging. Senator Obama needs your support now more than ever. A great turn out for Obama would be wonderful for our country. We are all tired of the negativity that has nearly destroyed the party's chances to win the White House. Hillary has been dragging our hope-filled candidate down to her gutter level. Our support will lift Obama's spirits and his confidence in Americans to see through Hillary's old Washington attack tactics. She has been universally negative throughout the campaign, but has expected him to just shut up and take it. No mas. Let's get out there tomorrow and make it happen for the good of the country!!
Posted by: rco | Apr 21, 2008 10:58:04 AM
I can not believe the hate and vicious rhetoric that has eliminated from campobama, it has been vile!
The media has been relentless in it's campaign against Hillary Clinton.
I have been so repulsed by all of the hate from the hope and change attack dogs I can never ever vote for Barry, never. I can not even stand to see his face or hear his name!(whatever that is?) I have many people tell me the same thing! WHO IS THIS GUY?
Posted by: HP Boston | Apr 21, 2008 10:50:32 AM
Blake I am an independent and I will vote for Hillary or McCain. I would not vote for Obama for city dog catcher
Posted by: d j | Apr 21, 2008 10:43:35 AM
Clintons wants the American people to trust her with our finances yet she can't even manage her own
Her campiagn is in $10.5 million debt
Posted by: Vanessa | Apr 21, 2008 10:43:12 AM
Women we are the Majority!!! Vote for Senator Clinton and have the Majority of the population of this whole nation represented in the presidency!
We do not need another testosterone hot head in the office, the arrogant or the PARTY PICK!
They are shoving Obama down our throats while visiously attacking the best candidate ever!
Let the party poops know we will not vote for their pick now or in the GE!
It is time to join as a solid block, ALL women, and be represented as we should be, do not pass up this chance, you will regret it and so will AMERICA!
Posted by: HP Boston | Apr 21, 2008 10:40:39 AM
The people in PA are getting ready to show the world just how uneducated they truly are I fear. Cling to guns and religion? They cling to their stupidity.
Posted by: Brian | Apr 21, 2008 10:33:21 AM
No,
The primaries will carry out. However, when the last primary is taken place, Obama will clearly have the lead.
Neither Obama or Clinton will reach the magic number.
The article states by then, the DNC leaders will rally around Obama so a fight doesn't break at the convention on national tv
Posted by: Vanessa | Apr 21, 2008 10:32:31 AM
Jgaw
He'll actually talk to people...boy what a concept.
His healthcare plan focuses on cost (which is the bigger and more vast problem right now) and takes into account how all the other plans that the dems have tried to get passed for healthcare have failed because they were HUGE...and even dems didn't agree with them. He realizes that the costs with healthcare don't really go down when you implement a massive bureaucracy without addressing issues of billing costs, fraud, and shortages of nurses and family docs...those issues get MORE costly with the plan both Hillary and Edwards looked at. He realizes that people with the biggest problems trying to figure out there healthcare do not understand how a tax break for someone making under 40k will not help them pay the rent when their wages are being garnished from salaries that were already being strained.
What a concept.
I am sure he is not going to make an open promise to ANY and ALL middle eastern countries that we will respond to ANY attack from Iran (or any other country for that matter) ...as long as they don't have nuclear weapons and come under our "protective umbrella" with MASSIVE RETALIATION under the US's dollar...that is for sure...and put us in a situation where congressional approval doesn't matter. Talk about fiscal and homeland security suicide.
He is not going to attack losing policy arguments with the same old tactics of slash and burn and intimidation.
He is not going to enter into the position from a position of ...you need to fight with the other side. As if the entire other side of the aisle is the enemy instead of just a simply disagreeing part of the same team.
and he is going to, yes, inspire much of the world to believe in America again. That buying American is not a bad thing, that helping us in the war against terrorism and our battles are something they can trust our judgement again on.
These are just a sample of why he is the better candidate for us now.
Posted by: dl | Apr 21, 2008 10:30:52 AM
but vanessa,
are you such a Sen. Clinton hater
you would want the dem. process tainted?
if what you say is so-how will obama be able to say he won fair and square.
I really do appeal to you sense of fairness. but cause if you actually do favor it being decided with people being pressured and strong-armed
sen. clinton will not be the only loser here.
and if it happens the way you have just laid it out.
no way will obama win-and no way should he win.
it will end up being just as w started off.
vanessa, for your souls sake-do not wish that our elections end up that way.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 21, 2008 10:27:59 AM
Polls, schmolls; A win is a win. Not many Clinton supporters are entertaing filling out polls. Why? We're campaigning! Obama looks stronger than he really is... but, guess what? We like hidden surprises.
I've been watching both candidates speaking in PA. Amazing... Obama complained about spending 45 minutes before getting to issues at the last debate??? What does he spend his pandering on at his rallies? Attacking Clinton (making jokes about her), attacking McCain, speaks of what's wrong with the country, absolutely never presenting solutions for America's problems.
If it were left up to Obama's campaign and Obama's delegates asking Senator Clinton's to drop out because... PA's and the last 9 states votes wouldn't make a difference.
Come on Americans! These delegates-super delegates were voted into their positions, yet their telling us 10 states and our votes are not important. These delegates are maybe the reason our country is in such terrible shape.
So, what are we going to do? Get off our butts, hit the ground running, and vote for Senator Clinton on our primary day. Let's show delegates, super delegates what We the People are made of!
Posted by: Kathy | Apr 21, 2008 10:27:51 AM
Yes it probably will be the same old same old after PA ,unless by the grace of God Obama knocks her out. The tone would definately change then. She would lose one of her arguments about swing state wins. John you left out another thing Obama has against him is the color of his skin, which is probably what a lot of non- minority americans are voting against anyway,why else would anyone want to support HRC.Maybe the fact they would like to see a women president,no matter how poor her character is and how dangerous she would be for this country.
Obama 08!
Yes We Can!
Posted by: merle7 | Apr 21, 2008 10:26:47 AM
Hillary does not want to be in the kitchen baking cookies Ha Ha I bet she has never cooked a meal in the last 10 years.Maybe had she done more Wee Willy would not have wandered.
They are both liars and it has been proven time and time again.Get her mad and see what happens. Bye Bye suckers is what you will find out she say.How come you never see her in a skirt?Wee Willy is still wearing the pants so she wants to be like him.Elect her and its bye bye low class people and Hello my ELITE friends. You want change go get it with the right candidate........
Posted by: M Mckenzie | Apr 21, 2008 10:23:35 AM
It is Rendell who wins the state of PA, and he happens to support Hillary.
Posted by: marian | Apr 21, 2008 10:18:29 AM
If Hillary is such a good presidential candidate, why is she losing in popular vote and delagates? she will win PA but that's not going to change the math...
Posted by: Bill | Apr 21, 2008 10:18:14 AM
Hillary and her supporters have gotten what they wanted those extra chances ...every time... to keep on fighting...and what has happened...
all the democratic numbers have gone down and they have now given the republicans more amunition, more sound bites of other dems, more wear on the party and divided the party even more...
...but they got to drag it out and bad mouth there own party...
and it will continue no matter what...
but yeah Clinton has the peoples, party's and country's need before her own...
every scandal and loss the Clintons have (go look it up) has to do with these same issues. Win their own positions at all costs... no matter what that does to the policies and rest of the party or the advancement of the American people.
Oh my God ...how dare I say that.
Posted by: dl | Apr 21, 2008 10:14:38 AM
Get real. Everyone in Congress is an elitist. If they aren't millionaires when they get elected -- they sure will be after a year or two in Congress, as businesses fall in line to cut them in on sweet real estate deals, insider trading tips, or book contracts -- not to mention high-paying sinecures to their spouses. It's the best get-rich-quick scheme in America.
Posted by: Laura | Apr 21, 2008 10:11:16 AM
by the numbers, amazing,
a question-why have you spent time doing this calculation?
do you support clinton, mccain, or obama?
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and to the people who keep running sen. clinton down-and john mccain down
if obama is your guy fair-dues
but you must realize-he cannot win the white house without the support of the Backers of Sen. Clinton, and at least win over some of mccains supporters
If obama supporters are so sure he is in.
I think this would be a good time for you all to take the high road and tell us in specifics what mr. obama is going to do for the country.
I know he has said he will bring change
i know he has said he will bring hope
I know he has said he will change the way they do business in washington.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 21, 2008 10:10:18 AM
In the final analysis the choice for democrats is clear:
Do we choose a young, inexperienced, inmatured, untested, rancorous individual, who has close relationships with individuals who hate America?
or
Do we choose a patriotic, matured, tested, strong individual who loves America and americans of all races?
The recent polls reflect the fact that America is making the reasonable choice: Hillary Clinton
Posted by: Manolete | Apr 21, 2008 10:05:34 AM
Get real. Everyone in Congress is an elitist. If they aren't millionaires when they get elected -- they sure will be after a year or two in Congress, as businesses fall in line to cut them in on sweet real estate deals, insider trading tips, or book contracts -- not to mention high-paying sinecures to their spouses. It's the best get-rich-quick scheme in America.
Posted by: Laura | Apr 21, 2008 10:05:06 AM
After all the incredible turmoil in the recent weeks, nothing will have changed after the PA primary.
Hillary will win PA as she won Ohio, I expect a 10 points win. I think Obama will have the majority of the white male vote (and doing better than in Ohio), but again women will make the major difference.
After PA, Obama's lead will only be MORE insurmountable, for the prospect of a HUGE win in PA will have gone. And after PA it will be clear that she even will not be able anymore to catch up in the popular vote.
But she'll go on and on, using the same arguments, the same fantasies about changing the minds of superdelegates, anyway: all the better for your Political Punch, Jake!
Posted by: watson | Apr 21, 2008 10:04:41 AM
Why is this horrible double standard against Hillary Clinton? Sen. Obama has not won a single major battle ground state; and he will lose Pennsylvania too! It is obvious neither of the two candidates are going to be able to win the nomination without the help of super delegates. But why ask Sen. Hillary Clinton to drop out? But no one is asking Sen. Obama to drop out? But I think it would be a mistake to nominate Sen. Obama. In the last analysis I don't think Sen. Obama can wind against a Republican candidate. The debates showed us that Sen. Clinton has superior intellect and experience. In every one of the debate I notice that Sen. Obama is merely imitating Sen. Clinton. She a born leader─ he’s not; we know so little about him, although he has got lot of help from the media to prop him up. He lacks experience. Media is trying hard to get her negatives up. Those conservative media supports of Sen. Obama like David Brooks, George Will, William Kristol, who praised him all along are now defected to John McCain. I knew this would happen as a part of the Republican strategy to defeat Sen. Hillary Clinton. Many Republics are pretending to be Democrats and voting in the Democratic primaries to defeat Hillary Clinton. They are also helping Sen. Obama financially. Even Rupert Murdoch family is holding a fund raiser in London for Sen. Obama. Yet, I don't think without the support of women, senior voters, and Latinos Sen. Obama or any other Democratic candidate has ever won a presidential election. To nominate Sen. Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate would be a huge mistake. The best chance of winning the White House for the Democrats is with Sen. Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: charleschaplin | Apr 21, 2008 10:04:40 AM
Please,please, PA can you also appear in the history book and close down this. Iowa did it and I know you can also. Its pretty much looks the door is closing. All our eyes, ears are on you tomorrow. Good luck!
Posted by: Peace | Apr 21, 2008 9:59:48 AM
Obama has everything working against him. He has:
1) no experience
2) he has too many racist ties
3) he is a hypocrite
4) he has lied to the public over and over again (and to ABC during the debate)
5) he is unpatriotic
6) he has ties to terrorist groups
7) he is now using the old kind of politics that he has been speaking out against
8) Obama will never win the general election
Save us from McCain and Vote for Clinton!!!
Posted by: John | Apr 21, 2008 9:59:41 AM
debby are you sure? they talked like she paid off her old bills last month..
Posted by: melissa | Apr 21, 2008 9:55:11 AM
Senator Clinton needs to pay her bills.
When April started, her campaign owed more money than she can spend on the primary.
A candidate who spends more than she takes in is major news. Why hasn't the media put this up?
Posted by: Debbie | Apr 21, 2008 9:53:35 AM
tommorow is my birthday maybe it will be good luck and we will all be shocked and hillary will lose!
we dont need colubian trade added to nafta!
Posted by: melissa | Apr 21, 2008 9:51:05 AM
Sorry< Obama supporters, he will not WIn tomorrow, period. White catholics will not vote for him, They will vote for Sean Hannity of Fox news rather that Obama. By the way Clinton will be on Larry King tonoght at 9:00 pm, even CNN wants her to win, in fact all the news media. If you think ABC is biased, then think carefully, what CNN is doing here. Larry is a white catholic and he wants Clinton to win, This is very bias and condescending. Now listen to what Scarborough has been saying, and cnn analysts, they are all rooting for her, the she-devil attract the souls of HATE!!!!!
Posted by: Kissoon Ramawad | Apr 21, 2008 9:47:03 AM
Hillary has proven that she does not appeal to Independents... if it is her vs. McCain... he will stomp her in the ground. She'll get a half hearted Democrat vote (most youth will stay at home) and he'll have all the Independents and fall-in-line Republicans.
Posted by: Blake | Apr 21, 2008 9:44:38 AM
Send her packing back to New York and hopefully they won't elect her again either....She never followed throught with what she promised that state either.....
Posted by: h | Apr 21, 2008 9:42:56 AM