Political Punch

@ebony:

It IS a character flaw. She exaggerated. Ummm... me too. ;-) So I'm not asking her to be better than that. I'm asking her to lead because she is better than that. It's easy to see. Look at Chelsea. E'nuff said.

What I do is balance that remark against a lifetime of service. I balance that remark against a life time of intelligent forceful and even b*tchy hard work. I see the finest woman ever put forward for a high office in this country because wherever her heart is, she fights for it with all she knows how to be. I can forgive her that remark quite easily.

And finally, because if she really is the one person the Republicans most want to beat, then she is the right person to win the Presidency. They have a long long history of picking against my self interests, and I don't think they've changed.

Not this time. Eight was enough.

Maybe I'm just being dense, but it seems like every news article is giving Hillary supporters hope, yet the numbers show she doesn't have a chance. I think this should prompt universities to require at least basic math courses for journalism majors. Unless...you don't think the media would hype up something as important as this nomination just to keep us all reading/watching, do you?

Maybe I'm just being dense, but it seems like every news article is giving Hillary supporters hope, yet the numbers show she doesn't have a chance. I think this should prompt universities to require at least basic math courses for journalism majors. Unless...you don't think the media would hype up something as important as this nomination just to keep us all reading/watching, do you?

ABC is the best. I hope you get all Hillary supporter/viewers that have boycotted MSNBC, CNN, FOX, et al. We are a larger pool of veiwers to be had.

"Remember how Dukakis was ahead by 17% until voters started learning how far left he was."

It wasn't "far left" that did in Dukakis. It was that stupid tank foto, the fact that he is not very tall, and that he couldn't keep his wife from drinking nail-polish remover, or whatever it was.

By the time a new president takes office -- if, indeed, BushCo doesn't seize state power permanently, as last year's "emergency" provisions suggest may ALREADY have happened -- being "left", in terms of political programme, probably won't be much of a problem, because the so-called economy will be very bad for the millions of people in the American underclasses the present candidates never mention.

John Edwards -- think about it, folks: for one thing, nobody (except maybe jealous old Jonathan Alter) hates John Edwards. Edwards is accomplished, brilliant, well-behaved, well-married, AND -- unlike the crowd driving the present "presidency" process -- made his own money in socially-useful work.

Jake Tapper writes:
"It seems as though Mellencamp is like the Democratic party in general -- unable to make a decision and pick a candidate."

Not your best sentence, Mr. Tapper. Neither of these people is going to the White House.

There are more than a few John Edwards partisans for whom neither of the center-right diversity twins, is an acceptable substitute. What THESE voters -- left Democrats, and others -- Ralph Nader, let us remember, endorsed John Edwards -- who will NOT join the celebrity-left in boarding the Obama bandwagon.

The better Clinton does, the longer it goes, the greater the chance that hot-house hustler Obama -- who's spent his entire sheltered life being groomed for installation as a top dog -- implodes, or is further exposed not only as "unelectable"/unable to govern, but as the profoundly UNdemocratic tool of a bad bunch of corporate white guys for whom questing after absolute power is a class amusement.

Maybe Mellencamp is among those who are waiting for the Democratic "leadership", in its possible wisdom, to conclude that the birthday-suit season is over, and that it's time for real Democrat John Edwards -- not a "post-partisan", not encumbered by a presidential spouse -- to carry forward the Democratic nomination, roll back the abuses of the present administration, reclaim democracy, and make a millennial effort for social justice and simplicity.

By nominating Edwards, the Dems also could short-circuit the defection of traditional Democrats to Nader, McKinney, and/or Gravel -- all or most of whom might well be brought aboard the Edwards train.

We should all be as good as John Mellencamp.

dl,

And a couple of other things you seem to not be aware of Halliburton sold Iran the centrifuges to enrich the uranium.

As well as a GAO report that parts for jets only Iran has were sold recently.

The rhetoric on the world stage isn't what is going on behind the scenes.

I doubt you remember the October Surprise of 1980, or the Iran/Contra scandal, which also involved the Bush family, money, arms, and parts for their military equipment. Two examples of what is said on the world stage for the masses, contradicting the reality behind the scenes.

dl,

Dubya started up the arms race with Russia, and Obama has Zbig in his campaign.

Zbig is really the one with Russia in his crosshairs, for literally decades.

And the belief that Russia doesn't have weapons. Have you read about their thermobaric bomb yet? Or the fact that they've already made Dubya's star wars missle plan obsolete?

You keep going on and on about Iran. The statement of threat is only there if they attack Israel. Do you know when the last time Iran attacked a country? Hundreds of years ago.

Iran is only an issue if neo-cons bomb it before they leave office. An issue Zbig himself has written about in op-eds stating he thinks they will try a false flag attack to justify it.

Of course, some think that is closer when you consider Admiral Fallon who recently retired and was against any military action against Iran.

You need to read more of the paper than just the Obama op-eds.

len,
I totally respect your support for Hillary but, how do you deal with the Bosnia issue? I mean at first I was excited about having either Obama or Hillary on the ticket I was hoping that
they could both be on the ticket but, if I'm going to vote for her in the general election, should she win the primary election, I need to know that she is trustworthy. How do you make sense out of the whole Bosnia issue? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure all politicians lie about one thing or another in order to cover up something embarrasing but, I just don't understand telling a lie for the sake of telling a lie. That seems like a major character flaw to me.

Hillary will continue to win because she is going straight to the voters now with issues that concern them. Her speech last night was a turn of the page in her campaign. It was polished and professional with all the right notes at the right time. The change of strategists is obviously helping.

Obama's speech was weak, repetitive and BADLY stage managed. If you are going to put three guys behind him who look like they just left the bar, take their cellphones first. That whole event on TV was amateur hour.

And that is what is going to decide the nomination fight from here to August: professionalism vs talented amateurs, governing skills vs crowd control, competence vs flash. You can't just sell change; change is happening every day. You have to show competent executive leadership and the right plans that we can all get behind and get done.

The time of intimidation and thug tactics as a winning strategy are over. Negative campaigning will go on, but the tone has to change to one of real issues over distractions, real character over projections, and real plans over wishful thinking.

dl,
no problem dl.

Everything that's been "brought out" about Obama is simply things about people that he knows. Nothing has been brought out about Obama himself. Everything that's been brought out about Hillary are things that Hillary said or did herself not simply someone she knows. I truly don't believe that she can win in the general election because her credibility is a little weak, especially after the Bosnia thing. Obama hasn't milked it for all he could but, John McCain will run that into the ground in a general election.

As a working musician, a gig is a gig is a gig. On the other hand, as an experienced musician, with confidence, politics and music are a bad brew for the musician. Yes, I know we have a history of musicians stressing their own political beliefs, but onstage, take my word for it, it ain't good for the act.

Caveat vendor, Cougar.

sorry ebony didn't realize centrists rule said that.

centristsrule
you said,
"Obama is going to lose by a landslide in the fall. Democrats only win the presidency when they can appeal to the center. Obama only appeals to the very far left.

Hillary and McCain are centrist canidates. If Hillary loses the primary then many centrist and independent voters like myself will be voting for McCain.

The democratic party has destroyed itself again."

That's not entirely true. I'm not to the left at all as a matter of fact, I voted for Bush in the last two General Elections but, I'm leaning towards Obama this time.

ebony

Hillary voters are all dems... it is Obama voters that are new or Independent...
so to be honest the group that is more likely to vote for the anti-roe vs.wade candidate whose hawk stance is similar to hillary's is going to be all those voters who want out of this foreign policy stance we are in...

Hillary has shown...she is only saying things to get elected.

Look at this "new" stance on Iran.

Starting arms race like Reagan and Russia only this time they don't have weapons.

So you threaten a non-nuclear enabled country with nuclear obliteration and massive retaliation... with Nuclear weapons...what do you think that does to Iran's radicals psyche.

Yes it makes them want to fight us with nuclear weapons even more.

or that she is saying she is going to police the middle east on America's dime by telling them we will protect you all no matter who you are (terrorist nation or not) if you forgo nuclear weapons...

This is crazy and yes...it is playing with the idea that she is reasoned strength...she is not... if we are going to vote for someone who thinks this way. Then the choice would obviously be someone like McCain who as wrong as he is on the stance at least is military...not just makes it up on tv.

so yeah ...Obama supporters (no matter what the polls say right now) are much more likely to pull that trigger/lever.

so go ahead and vote for McCain (Barack will win even if half of Clinton supporters went the other way...the dirty little secret is no one acknowledges those national polls posing the two candidates obviously already include defections)...

Hillary had a low ceiling anyway and the only reason she is still in this race is because she had a high floor (meaning her weak supporter in amount...are brainwashed loyal zombies) who only want their queen to win.

I believe we will find obama is not the true democrat. whenever the dems stay to the center the dems. win. the country as a whole is more to the center. whenever you get the extremes of either party it ends up being a disaster for the country as a whole.
Sen. Clinton is a centrist-in the ge
she will have a fight on her hand with mccain and the rep. but she will win
because of the fear of war,weakness on the economy and how the two tie together.sen. clinton understands how to fix this, john mccain does not.
I would also like to say, the only real battle going on here is between the voters and the media-the media all forms are so in the tank for obama they have lost all objectivitiy.
the media keeps trying to shove obama in our face and say pick him.
and everything the voters have a chance to have their say they say no thanks to the one the media his peddling.
I think as far as the media goes this whole trashing Sen. Clinton is backfiring in the medias face. not to mention the damage obama seems to be doing to himself-all on his own.
the media cannot cover-up for him when he is in the light for all to see.
I think the longer this goes on the more we will learn about obama and the more we will decide he is not ready to be president yet. that is why the dnc and the media want sen. clinton to quit.
well the voters do not want it that way.
the media has done the american voter a terrible disservice. a person from iowa said they wish they could have their vote back because of what is know about obama now.
if the voters want sen. clinton to become POTUS-she will be-no matter what the media wants or says otherwise.

centristsrule
you said,
"Obama is going to lose by a landslide in the fall. Democrats only win the presidency when they can appeal to the center. Obama only appeals to the very far left.

Hillary and McCain are centrist canidates. If Hillary loses the primary then many centrist and independent voters like myself will be voting for McCain.

The democratic party has destroyed itself again."

That's not entirely true. I voted for Bush in the last two primary elections but, I'm leaning towards Obama this time.

If you are willing to vote for McCain over Obama then you are not a true Democrat and we do not want you in our party and good riddance. I will back the Democratic candidate no matter who it is. I am sure McCain will welcome you into his camp and you can embrace the GOP politics that have brought us to the place we are currently in. I am sure we can pick up some of those 30% of the GOP who did not vote for McCain.