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Wright Confidante: He Didn't Intend to Hurt Obama
April 30, 2008 9:30 AM
Father Michael Pfleger -- an associate of both Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and Rev. Jeremiah Wright -- says Wright didn't mean to do Obama any damage in his Monday appearance at the National Press Club, what Obama disdainfully called a "performance."
"I don't think he had any intention to hurt Barack. He loves Barack," Pfleger told the CBS station in Chicago. "I think the pain and the moment took over."
"Sometimes you get caught up in the emotional response because you're hurt, because you're injured," Pfleger said.
Argument* to be debated below: Wright's appearance at the Press Club may have been the most personally and purely self-centered act by a public figure in the political arena since right after Monica Lewinsky delivered pizza to then-President Bill Clinton.
Discuss.
- jpt
* Throwing it out for discussion purposes only, not necessarily a belief to which I subscribe.
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Oh yes, Obama is so ready for prime time. So, his pastor said something controversial. Believe or not, pastors, priests, and even ministers say something that is over the top.
Posted by: donis georgiou | May 2, 2008 2:10:09 AM
No, Hillary Clinton's entire campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination wins the top prize, hands down, for "...the most personally and purely self-centered act by a public figure in the political arena."
Posted by: rita forte | May 1, 2008 6:46:27 PM
Perhaps Rev. Wright didn't mean to hurt Obama personally, Father, nor the chance that there would ever be a national discussion in this country.
Without an Obama presidency though, I doubt it will ever take place as the old negative politics of pitching one constituency against another keeps the people busy fighting each other instead of for even the basic human needs of all.
I wish I hadn't seen the Nat'l. Press Conference. I keep waking up with a picture of the Rev.'s mimicking of Kennedy's speech in my mind and - uhmm, personally, I got hurt too.
Typical-63yr-old-white-lady-in-Wisconsin.
Posted by: CynthiaCr | May 1, 2008 2:54:51 PM
Rev. Wright knew damn well he was going to hurt Obama. He's an angry delusional man, but he also knows *something* about politics. It is both sad and ironic that Rev. Wright's legacy might be that he destroyed the hopes of millions of black Americans.
Posted by: Sherry Watson | May 1, 2008 10:40:07 AM
When I heard that Wright was going in this media tour I thought he could only be doing this to either help of hurt Obama. I was clear during his performance (at one point I thought he was going to breakout with the chicken dance) it was immediately clear to me that Wright was intentionally trying to bring Obama down. So what does Wright do now that there are millions of Blacks who absolutely hate him for turning into a tool of the Clintons?
Posted by: chas0x01 | May 1, 2008 9:18:56 AM
Some wise person said, "When life gives you a lemon make lemonade". The only way for Obama now is up. Watch the press for details!!!!!.Errol Smythe.
Posted by: Errol Smythe | May 1, 2008 3:21:06 AM
I really have no idea why you want to drag Bill Clinton into the Wright controversy....I guess the answer would be that both showed poor judgement.
Hillary has baggage but a cheating husband (75% of women have experienced this)does not compare with an extremist minister that you never bothered to correct on "Aids created to kill Blacks" or "Jews evil-Hamas good" and even America deserved 911, Whites are evil and political opponents can be attacked from the pulpit. The long time Farrakan "sound bite" defense of these racist views is not really going to fly after all.
Obama was there for 20 years...He is still claiming he had no idea what his minister was preaching...He found out in the Rolling Stone magazine article year ago....Who believes that?
Does it even matter that Wright's paraphrasing of the ambassador about :chickens coming home to roost" was not even close to the original remarks that he claims to have gotten form Peck?
Here's the thing...Count the votes and let the people speak. We want to win in Nov...and there is still Rezko and Obama's financial support of his terrorist African cousin to deal with.
MSM won't tell the story but Fox will drop the news a little at a time...Obama=Unelectable.
Posted by: Jackie | May 1, 2008 2:08:01 AM
I think the base for Obama and the base for Hillary is pretty firmly set....at 50% each....although the Wright controversy did change some minds (buyers remorse) of those that have already voted.
All in all it's the Republicans leaning Democrats and the Independents that will be impacted...almost every state has about 10% undecided and since the Wright contoversy these have been going for Hillary.
It should have already had an impact...in TX PA and Oh....I'm thinking that Obama's lead in independents and those that previously voted Republican has shrunk as voters get to know him.
Crossover appeal slowly dwindling...
Posted by: Jackie | May 1, 2008 1:58:09 AM
Starting to think this was a planned set up by the Obama campaign. I do not believe Obama has not had personal contact with Wright in the last few weeks.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | May 1, 2008 12:37:50 AM
Rev. Wright and his church has had the same beliefs for 20 years and Senator Obama knew exactly what those beliefs were. Senator Obama and his wife must believe that most Americans are fools.
Vote NO to Obama. He is the FOOL.
Posted by: Mary L. | May 1, 2008 12:08:01 AM
With friends like these...who needs
enemies, Obama. You could pick up
another 10% of us if you learn to
pronounce your favorite word..Y'oh
as most illiterates do..."Y'know".
Should have been taught to you in the Ivy Leagues...but not used 200 times
in each sentence. God bless affirmative
action.
Posted by: Snafu | May 1, 2008 12:05:40 AM
MidWestIowa, it's clear you're EXACTLY the same as you were when you were in college. Yep, didn't let any of that education affect you one little bit, did you? YOu were determined to leatn absolutely nothing, and that's exactly what you did. No change. Not now, not never. Just stay stuck right in your little rut.
Posted by: Tom J | Apr 30, 2008 10:16:56 PM
"These experiences have made it apparent to me that the path I have chosen to follow by attending Princeton will likely lead to my further integration and/or assimilation into a White cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant." - Michelle Obamas senior thesis at Princeton. Well,here's hoping you WON'T become a White House participant!
Posted by: MidwestIowa | Apr 30, 2008 8:25:31 PM
the story doesn't deserve this amount of ethernet or whatever.
I think it's just a ploy for attention... to keep B O in the spotlight while erasing his need to get in trouble proposing something important like A SOLUTION... or at least a SUGGESTION about how to ease some of this country's problems.
But NOPE..
It's all about B O.
Poor baby....
Posted by: questioner | Apr 30, 2008 8:19:57 PM
Buford Gooch said "Amazing. According to the pro Obama posters, Obama can do no wrong. Anyone who is against him is either stupid or evil."
I don't see that here. I'm an Obama supporter. I don't believe he can do no wrong, and I don't believe those who don't support him are stupid or evil, and I haven't seen posts from his supporters that claim that.
I do believe he's the best of the three candidates to represent me and America in the White House, and Rev. Wright and Obama's relationship to him, and his handling of the present controversy haven't changed my mind about that.
Posted by: John from CA | Apr 30, 2008 6:52:23 PM
It really is amazing how there appearsto be so many self proclaimed show casing political cases in this election soap opera.We have the media piranha feeding frenzy after the mudsling kitchen sink strategy brainstorming group allegedly set up Reverend Jeremiah Wright to step into the limelight for fifteen minutes of fame so that they allegedly could slice and dice soundbites and put them on those forty-five to seventy two second soundbite loops packaged for the alleged targeted couch potatoe gulluble public so that polls could be manipulated up or down.
Those polls sometimes get it wrong and all these ping pong mind games qoting percentages and figures to dazzle and frazzle the minds of the voting public ain't going to work this time.
The streetwise man in the know says the word is on the street that to all intents and purposes the media have got the word from who knows where to wreck Barack cause Barak is on a roll.
All this talk of this and that and fireside chitchat and coffee drinking talk about the Obama/Wright association is just going to dry up.
American's don't like being taken for a ride. The media circus is over. People want to get serious and talk about serious issues. Things that matter. Bread and butter issues. American's are tired of who said what. There sure is something more real to talk about.
Can there be timeout on all this ? The election is not about Obama and his associates. Surely there are real substantial issues that need to be addressed like the rising cost of fuels,alternative energy sources, global food crisis, housing crisis, banking crisis, pension crisis, tax rebates,world peace, global warming and climate change, desertification,pollution,ozone layer,agriculture, poverty,hunger, empty food shelves in Africa etc etc etc.
Barak is just living the American dream. What is wrong with that? Why do we like broken dreams more than fulfilled dreams/ Let the dream live on. Hope is a good thing there is nothing wrong with hope. Peace to all and goodwill to all men . Errol Smythe.
Posted by: Errol Smythe | Apr 30, 2008 6:12:34 PM
I know this beyond a shadow of a doubt: None of the posters on this site who are crying about the Obama/Wright issue and blaming Obama would not have voted for Obama in the first place. Their true purpose in this issue to try to persuade others to vote for Hillary.
Posted by: jbate | Apr 30, 2008 5:17:43 PM
crisis08 writes:
"This is just a dirty conspiracy between them.
I hope voters are smart to figure it out."
Well, let's hope a truth team rolls out on Thursday: Alice Palmer, Wright, and Jesse Jackson, maybe. Maybe joined by Tom Hayden's "pacifist wife" ... certainly SOMEthing's up (and nobody's posting, also peculiar).
As far as figuring it out, anybody who watched Brother Divine's talk yesterday presumably knows not to vote for HIM, but the disinformation's so deep it's discouraging.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 5:16:40 PM
It was a Clinton operative who set up the appearance by Rev. Wright with the National Press Club.
Posted by: jbate | Apr 30, 2008 5:13:32 PM
Belle Starr,
I think so. That doesn't make sense at all why it's so sudden this pastor showed up 3 days in the rows.
They are afraid he is loosing the white votes because it's been all over media he can't embrace them.
This is just a dirty conspiracy between them.
I hope voters are smart to fifure it out.
Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 30, 2008 5:00:50 PM
Obama said that Rev.Wright is like family for him. When Obama speeched yesterday, I just look that just a set up from Obama campaign.
The scenario yesterday just like Obama plan aboaut NAFTA when he become president as his campaign adviser told the canadian.
Rev. Wright still will be his mentor/spritual advisor!
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 4:45:15 PM
The truth is we don't know either Obama and his pastor are playing to get white voters back or something else.
Obama just made a mistake not to denounce his pastor six weeks ago but he did it yesterday because he thought Wright offended him not to white people.
Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 30, 2008 4:10:55 PM
Obviously Wright said some extreme things, and on Monday let himself get caught up in anger and his own ego. But none of that changes the fact that he's led a life of service and helped thousands of people. He started a ministry that runs homeless shelters, soup kitchens, daycare, job training, AIDS care, and numerous other humanitarian efforts. Maybe if you looked at the man as a whole you'd be able to see why Obama had given him the benefit of the doubt. Wright is not a hateful man; a hateful man couldn't inspire a diverse community to work in service of others. A hateful man wouldn't be so strongly defended by prominent religious leaders like Father Pfleger (a white Catholic priest by the way).
The fact is that out of 20 years of sermons all we've seen are a few brief minutes that are offensive, but not hateful in their full context. If those caricatures were the real Wright, don't you understand that we'd have seen more by now? The reason we haven't is because that's not who Wright is, and that's not what service at Trinity is like. Haven't you noticed that no one from Trinity has spoken out against Wright? If this was commonplace, and representative of who Wright is, we would have seen at least something about it from current or former members of the church. But we've seen none of this, because it's not there.
Unfortunately, this Monday showed us the sadder side of Wright. We saw a man who lashed out at the media--the people who bear much of the blame for the attacks on his character and the community he devoted his life to building. He should have used that forum as a bridge, but instead he acted out of anger. His actions were wrong, and they were sad to watch. I admit that his state of mind is not an excuse, but it does help understand his actions and who he is. Honestly, wouldn't you be tempted to lash out if you had been misrepresented this way, witnessed threats of violence against your church, saw people hounded during services, and heard how the elderly and ill were harassed?
So, to those who hurl accusations and attacks at Reverend Wright and Obama, I have three questions for you. First, what have you personally done that compares to the good works Wright has done throughout his life, and that Trinity continues to do every day? Second, what have you done in your life that could be used against you were it snapped out of context and bore in an endless loop? Finally, how would you feel if all the good you had accomplished were ignored and the people you cared most for were attacked because someone caricatures you as nothing more than a handful of failings?
If you feel that your answers entitle you to continue, then, by all means, let you who are without sin cast the first stone.
Posted by: Justin | Apr 30, 2008 3:23:26 PM
irma writes:
"The "chickens are coming home to roost."
Accompanied by the corporate weasels, some of them pretending to be the "left".
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 3:12:53 PM
Imagine, the US nation is being led towards the abyss by a bungling bush; and the focus is on the HARMLESS RHETORIC of an old Black man?
All because of America's racist obsession!
All any intelligent mind has to ask is, "How really harmful can mere rhetoric of Right be to ANY American?" Who is bruised?
It's not like Mr Right is making threats of harm against the nation or against individual Americans?
911 demonstrates to the world that Americans will lull itself to sleep with non-issues when real threat to the nation arises.
Americans will be fast asleep, lights out, "when the bridegroom cometh"
Posted by: New Yorker | Apr 30, 2008 2:42:07 PM
How about the Peter Paul trial. Alice Palmer who?
Posted by: tj | Apr 30, 2008 2:17:13 PM
This aspect of the Obama drama with Wright is painful. I do believe they like each other. I do believe they are self promoters, but not BAD people. Boy, talk about "issues", that's politics! Wright is not a representative of the "Black Church". He is who he is. There is nothing wrong with him. He is actually easy to watch. It's about the political choice Obama made with Wright 20 years ago for a certain voting block. We all know it. It's one of his political strategies. However, it's the character attack tactics he used on Hillary/the Clintons from the start. He started with very ugly politics. “Same old politics" huh Obama? The "chickens are coming home to roost."
Posted by: irma | Apr 30, 2008 1:59:42 PM
Getting back to the assignment question, it looks like Wright's press club and NAACP performances were engineered by Obama's handler David Axelrod, given the fact of the public relations firm and all that.
So it doesn't appear that Wright's excursions into the nitty-gritty are "personally and purely self-centered act[s] by a public figure in the political arena", unless the public figure is Axelbama.
Where's Alice Palmer? Tomorrow for that, maybe?
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 1:45:27 PM
Rev. Wright disapointed with Obama because most of his campaign advisors are white. Wright concern when Obama become president, Obama will not bring the spirit of Trinity Church, president for black people, in his policy. That's why he said Obama is a politician.... may i add as a puppet too.
Posted by: Ati | Apr 30, 2008 1:39:51 PM
The lack of evidence on the side of Hillary supporters is just amazing.
Besides just suggesting that Obama may be this way or may be that way because he knew a person, do you have any evidence that he is this way or that way?
Bring it on. Real rvidence, not just repeating your BS.
Posted by: My America | Apr 30, 2008 1:28:16 PM
Jeremiah Wright - Hillary Supporter?
No sane man, who is an Obama supporter, would do what Jeremiah Wright has done in the last week. Many pundits are saying he's an ego maniac, he's been swept up, he's trying to pay for his new house, blah, blah. After thinking about it, I disagree. This was deliberate, planned and timed to inflict maximum damage to Obama. Think about it. What could Wright do to get maximum attention? Answer: speak at the National Press Club, with a large group of supporters present, and with Nation of Islam security on stage with you. Make inflammatory statements, dredging up every outrageous thing you've ever said, and inflating them even more. Be cocky, arrogant, and rude. Make sure that the Nation of Islam guy is in the background of every shot. Scare people to death.
Wright's not crazy. He supports Hillary. It is well known that Wright knows the Clintons. He went to the White House during the Clinton administration. I now believe that he is a Hillary supporter and either did this on his own or was goaded into acting by a supporter. I don't know if he's in communication with the Clinton campaign itself, but I wouldn't be surprised.
This was intentional to hurt Obama, and it sure is working.
Posted by: John Elias | Apr 30, 2008 1:10:44 PM
Do you know the RNC has purchased half-million dollars worth of ads so far featuring the Rev. Wright and democratic candidates from all over the country. Not only will Obama not win but many good democrats around the country will not win.
Posted by: Tina D | Apr 30, 2008 1:09:59 PM
It seems that there's MORE Obama campaign involvement -- David Axelrod himself, no less! -- in the perhaps-manufactured Wright crisis.
"Axelrod confirms that he called Jim Terman, the president of Jasculca-Terman and Associates, a major Chicago P.R. outfit that specializes in doing crisis P.R. management for corporations and large institutions.
"I called Jim Terman and asked if they were interested in helping out and they followed up with the church," Axelrod emails, adding that his involvement ended there."
A major PR firm engineered this debacle? What in the world does THAT mean?
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 1:04:07 PM
@ middle of the road...
Harold Ford, Jr. has been very well respected. Unfortunately, I don't think our bigoted country will be ready to elect him as he recently married his blonde white fiance a few weeks ago.
Posted by: Roxie | Apr 30, 2008 1:03:46 PM
Belle Starr and your posts are on topic. Ok, sure.
Posted by: ll | Apr 30, 2008 1:01:08 PM
Well, it looks like nobody's discussing the assignment, which is a puzzling one -- sort of suggesting that Jeremiah Wright is to Obama as Monica Lewinsky was to Wild Bill Clinton. Perhaps not an outstandingly felicitous suggestion.
Who delivers Obama's pizza? Maybe we should be discussing THAT?
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 12:42:58 PM
Obama put Rev.Wright on his Spiritual Advisory Committee. Yet he didn't really know about Wright's sermons and radical views? Another example of very poor judgement. And another lie.
Posted by: cindy in nc | Apr 30, 2008 12:35:16 PM
The truth is, the Clintons were responsible for NAFTA, and while Hill can say "I was secretly against it back then," the reality is, it was the signature of the Clinton years. And it was her own campaign head, Harold Ickes, who as part of the DNC rules committee, stripped FL and MI of their seats. She agreed with him until she started losing, and she's trying to spin the fact that she wouldn't allow people who had voted GOP in the first MI vote to vote Dem in the revote as promoting a legitimate revote, when it's not b/c a lot of people knowing the original wouldn't count had switched over. And when people talk baggage, it's funny- Bill was almost impeached, Hill is being arraigned in a few months (not someone she knows but she herself)in the Paul v Clinton case, objects were stolen by the Clintons from the White House when they left, documents went missing, Hill obtained a criminal pardon for her brother's criminal friends, Vince Foster was murdered, Monica, Jennifer- the list goes on. It's just that Obama wanted to keep it clean so he didn't mention any of these, but the reality is nobody has more baggage and shadiness than the Clintons. The Clintons had even bombed Iraq, if anybody cares to remember. It was not a rainbow and unicorns peaceful time. Even Hill's claim to be active in the administration was proven false by the records; she started out strong, but when her health care efforts failed, she became another tea and tourist first lady. People even forget her outrageous lies and her constant smearing with the absurd excuse of preparing Obama for Republicans, as if that were her job. A former governor's wife and then the president's wife, Hill has 100 million dollars in her pocket and grew up well-off, to become a member of the head board of anti-Union Walmart- yet she pretends now to have any semblance of connection to grassroots America. From moving to NY, a state she never lived in, to take advantage of an easy election that would put a big state in her hand come 08, to her episodes of tears, to her whining about speaking first in debates and her willingness to put McCain above Obama, Hill has shown that she has been planning a long time for the throne that was her birthright. The only reason that the 90s was prosperous was because there was a computer, internet and technology boom which is now over. Even the concept of a president's wife now becoming president is inherently ridiculous- it smacks of royalty. Now, her campaign, badly managed, is in debt, and she's had to fire 3 top campaign strategists. She didn't even bother to read the Iraq intelligence reports when she voted to send our boys to war. There is simply, absolutely nothing that would make her qualified.
Posted by: sally | Apr 30, 2008 12:35:14 PM
Vickie, don't bother. No one reads long posts like that.
Posted by: jj | Apr 30, 2008 12:33:12 PM
pp,
GREAT POST and what an UNBELIEVABLE list! Do you mind if I save the list to share?
Thanks so much for posting it!
Posted by: Vickie | Apr 30, 2008 12:26:57 PM
it is interesting how all the supposed party leaders...kerry, kennedy, dean, daschle, etc., etc., have been instumental in the demise of the democratic party by interjecting themselves into the process so publically.
Posted by: pp | Apr 30, 2008 12:13:29 PM
"Argument: Wright's appearance at the Press Club may
have been the most personally and purely self-centered
act by a public figure in the political arena since…etc."
Nah, actually a fairly petty and mundane self-centered act. Just highly public.
Posted by: Lee C. ― U.S.A. | Apr 30, 2008 12:02:34 PM
Obama supporters are saying that now that Obama has denounced Wright there is nothing left to say about Wright, and that it is time to move on. Not so fast! Obama has still not answered two fundamental questions:
1. How could he not know that Wright has been saying these outrageous things for years?
2. If he did know, why did he stay in the church?
Until he successfully answers these questions Wright is going to dog him throughout the nominating process, and all the way through November, if Obama gets the nomination. The problem is we already know the answers to these questions, and we are just waiting for Obama to say it, and admit, forthrightly, that he has been lying about Wright.
In answer to the first question, despite his assertions to the contrary, Obama knew exactly what Wright was about. He knew of Wright's beliefs and he knew what Wright was saying. It strains credulity to think that Obama, after 20 years in this church, did not hear Wright say outrageous things repeatedly.
In answer to the second question, which has not yet been addressed, it is clear that Obama stayed with the church to further his political career in Chicago. There is no doubt that to gain the support of black voters he needed the support of black leaders, like Wright. To get Wright's support Obama needed to sit in church and nod, smile, and shout praises, while Wright spewed his venom.
These are the only answers to these questions that make sense, and eventually the truth will come out. If Obama wants to move forward he needs to go beyond condemning Wright. He has to admit what he knew about Wright, admit he supported Wright to advance his political career, and hope voters believe that, despite what Obama did for political expediency, Obama is what he claims to be.
Posted by: David H | Apr 30, 2008 11:57:17 AM
i did find out today from a british friend of mine that obama has a step mother living in london.
the bbc interviewed her.
I told my friend-as far as i know we in the american public have never heard of her.
and my friend said-after hearing her
it is understandable why obama would not want her in the forefront.
but he has visted them-he was there for a family wedding. so there is a relationship of some sort.
but our msm-nothing about his part of his family.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 30, 2008 11:56:18 AM
jgaw;
My apologies.sincerely, it wasn't meant for you.Peace.
Posted by: pat | Apr 30, 2008 11:52:06 AM
patrick,
this is the real jgaw,
and I do not know what you are SHOUTING AT ME ABOUT-i have not commented about any of the stuff you just wrote.
go back and read the comments.
list the time and date I posted whatever it is you are SHOUTING about.
so I can go back and read it too.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 30, 2008 11:49:06 AM
Barry is a world class con artist
- but I trust that Americans are
now waking up.... God Bless America
and Vote Hillary 08 or McCain 08.
Posted by: hig | Apr 30, 2008 11:49:05 AM
I feel sorry for people who have
fallen for Obama's scam....
But after the investigation maybe
you will get your money back...
Posted by: rux | Apr 30, 2008 11:43:40 AM
what is sad is that Barry has been
manipulating and lieing like this for years
and years....
Posted by: eve | Apr 30, 2008 11:40:44 AM
Belle Starr are you one of the uneducated and unemployed voting for Hillary. You seem to have a lot of time to post here
Posted by: ll | Apr 30, 2008 11:35:14 AM
hfjr does have a lot of potential. however, i believe bho and his supporters have ruined the political climate for black candidates for sometime to come.
Posted by: pp | Apr 30, 2008 11:33:42 AM
Jim writes:
"KNEEL BERFORE THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OBAMA, NOW PLEDGE YOUR LOYALTY (and money) TO THE OBAMA, DO NOT QUESTION, DO NOT THINK, DO NOT LOOK HIM IN THE EYE, JUST FOLLOW AND CARRY OUT HIS BIDDING."
And at His right hand, ketchup consort John Kerry ...
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 11:32:45 AM
it simple - if obama is the candidate - the republicans win, when u add the lack of experience, the bitter comment, 20 yrs of rev wright, michelle obama's "first time proud"comment - what does it equall = a disaster for emocrats, if you don;t like hillary so be it - then draft edwards or gore for the nomination and u will win, even hillary will win v. mccain - obama won;t the damage has been done and oh yes before i forget - he prayed with rev wright the day he annoucned his candidacy and wouldn;t let him give a speech in public - i wonder why? and as for the rev - i don;t think he thinks barack deserves the presidency i think he thinks he has been hoodwinked by barrack all these yrs....
Posted by: sokadija | Apr 30, 2008 11:31:53 AM
there is nothing wrong with harold ford jr. he is increasing his political resume'-(he has bad family ties-but I think he took care of that) but he would be a good candidate coming up the ranks-and he will only get better.
by the time we are finished with this obama stuff-people will be reluctant to accept hfjr. but he would be a good one.
Posted by: middle of the road | Apr 30, 2008 11:30:07 AM
Lookup writes:
"Belle Starr: I think most Americans would rather vote for Obama than the Empress (Hillary Clinton) any day. NC and IN wont be fooled by the Clintons "glow" and vote there hearts."
You don't know WHAT "most Americans" would rather do. Maybe most Americans would rather have John Edwards as the Democratic Party nominee than EITHER of these candidates -- and sending an Obama-like message of total rejection to John Kerry and David Axelrod (which voters can do by voting for Clinton) is a way to help that happen.
"Post-partisan" Kerry's ALREADY wrecked the Democratic Party. Why let him stick around to do MORE damage?
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 11:28:44 AM
The similarities of wright and obama
in terms of arrogance, inability
to tell the truth or respect the
american people, is VERY TELLING!!!!
also no normal person dumps a loved one
after 3 speeches on national television...
Posted by: copy | Apr 30, 2008 11:28:37 AM
I truly think that what is wrong with Rev. Wright is the same thing that is wrong with Hillary.... THEY BOTH ARE GOING THROUGH THE CHANGE OF LIFE... THEY BOTH HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS... So lets blame Obama for that.
Posted by: Becky | Apr 30, 2008 11:27:36 AM
Checkers, preachers crying after being caught in cheap motels. prayer tower sitting, lust in my heart, did not have sex with that woman, just a few from my lifetime. I am sure that there are many more.
What I would rather focus on though are the Billy Grahm, Teddy Rosevelt, Truman, Romeny, Ford kind of lives that
move through politics without the self serving issues. I hope that there are many more of them.
Posted by: Smith | Apr 30, 2008 11:22:57 AM
KNEEL BERFORE THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OBAMA, NOW PLEDGE YOUR LOYALTY (and money) TO THE OBAMA, DO NOT QUESTION, DO NOT THINK, DO NOT LOOK HIM IN THE EYE, JUST FOLLOW AND CARRY OUT HIS BIDDING.
Posted by: Jim | Apr 30, 2008 11:22:40 AM
Excuse me have you ever been to the church? Have you heard the 20 plus years of sermons that the Rev Wright made? You people amaze me with your rock throwing, bigot attitudes. How dare you have warped opinion when our brothers and sisters (black and white) are giving up their lives and limps for your *** to sit at a computer and voice your prejudice opinion. You people are gonna soon start a race riot that will be the biggest ever in history, because of misguided white people like yourself. The world is looking at us and shaking their heads because of our hypocrital attitude. Obama is the best thing that could ever happen us, but because America has once again show it's ***, we will probably live in fear and hated around the world because of all the ignorance still in our country. this is starting to **** me off that a black man can be judged by assocation, but a white man/woman can destoy our country for self gain and be overlooked...we should be ashamed of ourselves as Americans...
Posted by: Becky | Apr 30, 2008 11:20:58 AM
Belle Starr: I think most Americans would rather vote for Obama than the Empress (Hillary Clinton) any day. NC and IN wont be fooled by the Clintons "glow" and vote there hearts.
Posted by: Lookup | Apr 30, 2008 11:20:35 AM
The immaturity of Mr. Obama is
simply appalling....
Posted by: ruby | Apr 30, 2008 11:16:44 AM
Wright's talk communicated more to "whites" about "black" experience than Obama-Kerry-Axelrod are EVER going to do. The campaign's going overboard to reject-denounce Wright is going to turn out -- has already turned out, because it shows Obama as the "race" opportunist he IS -- to be a big blunder.
If the good people of North Carolina and Indiana can just refrain from voting for this fraud next week, the country at large may possibly be spared saturation coverage on the subject of Obama's always-adjustable loyalties.
Posted by: Belle Starr | Apr 30, 2008 11:15:14 AM
I will say,
if obama said he did not hear the bad stuff we are hearing now.
he only heard wright preach good sermons.
Where are these good sermons-so we can hear some of what obama did hear.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 30, 2008 11:15:02 AM
Obama's campaign continues to
weaken america and should
face criminal charges....
Posted by: who | Apr 30, 2008 11:14:55 AM
A:
Overall, liberal policies work.
Social Security, Medicare, environmental protections, food safety, unemployment insurance, work safety, banned child labor, civil rights, G.I. bill, workers compensation, equal rights, minimum wage, collective bargaining, progressive taxation, and there's more.
If there was a Liberal President, we wouldn't have invaded Iraq or deregulated the financial industry. In other words, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Posted by: AkaDad | Apr 30, 2008 11:13:29 AM
20 years people, 20 years people. Is Obama expecting us to believe that he is surprised by Wright's actions, altough he stated the same things he did during his sermons after 20 years with this guy, as though he went through a metamorphisis in the last week. Oh no its because he called Obama a "politician" that's why Obama distanced himself. Apparently Wright spoke the truth afterall.
Posted by: Gonzalo | Apr 30, 2008 11:12:12 AM
I am right with tony today-I am battle worn. thanks tony for holding up the fort of decency,moderation, and right thinking today.
Maybe tomorrow I will be able to join
the conversation again.
tony, I read your comment, about all of a sudden obama supporters want to talk about healthcare, affordabe healthcare etc., Sen. Clinton and her supporters have tried to keep the focus on this all along-But Mr. Uniter and his distractions keep getting in the way.
I think the main person who wants to keep up this conversation about race is obama, this is what I believe is his strong side. Sen. Clinton is the strongest when it comes to dealing with our issues.
as a african american supporter of Sen. clinton, i must say,
just as i do not like the fact that
obama supporters have tried to make sen. clinton supporters as sellout and not having any black pride. Which is wrong-black supporters of sen. clinton have a right to vote for her since we feel she is the better to run this country.
I do not agree with the black people who are dividing over obama snd wright.
black people: obama is not running against rev. wright.
I am african american proud supporter of Sen. Clinton and:
I want and know sen. clinton will beat obama on is lack of experience, he lack of understanding how to navigate the political landscape in dc. (if he won and got to dc, and started trying to change dc-nothing but nothing will get done for the american people who sent him there)
msm-get out of the tank for obama-start doing your job-help obama get off this distraction of wright. encourage him to debate sen. clinton.
Sen. clinton will defeat obama in the way that any candidate should be defeated
on the issues.
Tony, I hope you ARE a supporter of sen. clinton.
Posted by: jgaw | Apr 30, 2008 11:12:12 AM
IF I WAS REV WRIGHT I WOULD FILE A LAW SUIT AGAINST THE MEDIA
FOR ONLY PLAYING CLIPS OF THE WHOLE SERMON
AND FOR SLANDERING MY NAMES
THAT'S EXACTILY WHAT I WOULD DO...
Posted by: betty | Apr 30, 2008 11:11:57 AM
oBAMA'S COME AND go. I've seen it
many times! Hillary Clinton however
is the a true committed and
capable public servant
and deserves our support.
Vote Hillary 08!
Posted by: ebony | Apr 30, 2008 11:10:32 AM
jonathan Heidelberger: That sounds like Hillary Clinton responding to her lies.
Posted by: Lookup | Apr 30, 2008 11:10:15 AM
The ineptitude of the DNC is staggering. And the far left of the democratic party is even more radical and crazier than any blue collar, small towner, typical white person, bitter gun and religion clinging person could ever believe. The superdelegates and the DNC need to stand up to moveonorg. and the black base and say "it's time to act like grown-ups now." The Obama campaign is becoming a farce and damaging the chances of any other black candidate of ever having a viable chance at the presidency. It seems the far left would rather die a humiliating death, than see Hillary as the first woman president. It's too bad, because if this nomination process has shown anything, it's shown that Hillary has the "right stuff" for democrats.
GO HILLARY 08!
Posted by: calli | Apr 30, 2008 11:06:37 AM
First he said he never heard such words, then he says he did hear the Reverand say offensive things in his so-called race speech, then he now says the Reverand is not the Reverand he knew 20 years ago….All lies. Now, so that he may gain the highest position in the land - he denouces the words completely.
You sat in a church for 20 years but didn’t know what this man was about, yet you went to the million man march with him to participate in a racist dialogue and racist movement…….
During the announcement of his presidential campaign he prayed with his pastor in the basement minutes beforehand.
The American People are not as stupid as you would like us to believe. Even the pastor on Greta last night said that Wrights preaching over the last few days was his typical performance throughout his career…..yet Obama claims it wasn’t.
At least Wright has the guts to say what he thinks. Obama just lies and lies, like about not meeting in Canada about NAFTA, then we found out he did, like that Rezko gave 35,000, and then we found out he gave 350,000. The only thing Obama is good at is lying and convincing a bunch of people to believe him.
Posted by: jonathan Heidelberger | Apr 30, 2008 11:06:11 AM
Rick
If Obama (aka Soetoro) wins the nomination, the result is a very left-wing party that will have abdicated its moderate principles. Why would Hillary supporters compromise their principles and join such a transformed party?
Posted by: A | Apr 30, 2008 11:03:21 AM
Rick - please. Clinton could get the popular vote, which is the "will of the people," right? This country loves Dynasties too. The Kennedys, Bushes, Clintons, Madisons, blah blah blah. Besides, the "dynasty" issue doesnt matter to me. Who is best qualified matters. Although I feel very sympathetic for Obama right now, I still won't support him.
Posted by: tony | Apr 30, 2008 11:02:48 AM
It is 100% OBama's fault that
this garbage is on TV and the
newspapers and Internet. His
irresponsibility , recklessness
and lieing is HIGHLY, highLY, HIGHLY
OFFENSIVE. i HONESTLY CAN NOT SAY ENOUGH
BAD THINGS ABOUT THE GUY!
Posted by: bucko | Apr 30, 2008 11:02:05 AM
Obama is GREAT.
We're fools if we don't elect him president.
Posted by: Fritz | Apr 30, 2008 10:59:56 AM
Sandy...yes Obama has been living with rejudeous all his life...has Hillary? No she has been floating along on her merry way...living her "elite" life on her grandfathers cottage in Scanton...shooting at cans. I bet Obama's family couldn't afford a cottage on a lake.