A Clinton Hurricane Hits Outside the DNC Hearing Room

Thanks to the Clintons, the GE is now in jeopardy. But those who would vote for the party that has ruined the country in these seven years, for whatever reason, are only doing it to themselves and will have years to get used to the pleasure.

Dear tired,
You took the words right out of my mouth. Affirmative Action.
Well, I don't know about you, but, I will be an observer until Nov when I vote for someone, anyone, but....and I really mean it. My vote may only be 1/4 of a vote anyway and they may end up giving it to him if I vote Dem, so, I won't be doing that anymore!

The party's response is too little and too late.

At the end, the pundits do not care about the election. They care only about themselves. They want to be the super-delegate. They lied and made up new rules.

Vote Pelosi, Reid, and Dean out of their office. Down the Undemocratic Democratic Party.

GET OVER IT. All THE CANDIDATES AGREED NOT TO CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. RULES ARE RULES AND THE SAD PART IS SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THOSE PARTICULAR RULES?? ENOUGH already. Harold Ickes was like a brat that didn't get what his boss sent him to get. Hartina Flouroy was the same and it seems to me that the committee's rules were clear that the votes WOULD NOT count. Take it one step further the committee set the rules and for them to tell the committee it was wrong, was like looking in the mirror and saying they were wrong. All candidates agreed that was the eventual outcome. It was clear to see by their questions and concerns they were only interested is seeing Hillary get what she wanted. This is not a good idea for her to authorize her representatives to suggest that it will go to the next level of denial and to keep her failing campaign going. I think the super delegates should step up and give one or the other the needed votes to end this now. This obsession with her being the most electable is a total figment of her imagination. Get over it and let's move on. Her & her family are almost living in PR to get the desired results, but the math will not provide the results they are seeking. Vote OBAMA 2008 for CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

Posted by: tired | Jun 1, 2008 12:55:19 AM

you can get off all you want on your condescending posts...build yourself up in your own mind...spout your ridiculous rhetoric. it is of no matter to me.
join your other 90% and wait for your affirmative action representative to save you...
i am done with you...not worth my time.

Posted by: tired | Jun 1, 2008 12:35:29 AM

i could give a rip who or what you are.
by the way, hillary's "plenty of black votes"==less then 10%.

Oh pp you are a jewel.

There goes those myopic symptoms again! There you go ASSuming again!! I bet if you closed your eyes and listened, you would have thought that Rev. Pfleger was Black!!!! Are you saying that I can't be a White girl with a Black girlfriend that keeps me updated to the hip talk? Thanx for validating YOURSELF by confirming that you think that someone who says something nice about Obama (and something not so nice about Hillary) is Black. Well, guess what? I'm not gonna TELL you! I'm not gonna TELL you!! what I am. Know why? Because what does it matter?? Obama has plenty White votes as Hillary has plenty of Blacks. Get over it.

Posted by: tired | Jun 1, 2008 12:11:19 AM

no thanks for your knowledge, i have plenty.
whtever is a response when you have no response.
and, i would have bet just about anything you were black. thanks for validating.

pp

Thanx!! My boss and my father always say I am a piece of work and I am SOOOO glad, you never having met me and all, that you agree!! I am flattered.

Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! You know what it means when you ASSume. At no point did you hear me say I was an Obama supporter. (As a girlfriend of mine says, check yo-self before you wreck yo-self!). I am not trying to get anyone to vote for anyone. If I was, these little posts of mine would be more severe. I am just trying to share my knowledge with some of you who are suffering with pathological myopia.

To everything else you said, I respectfully respond, "WHAT-EVER!!!"

I certainly don't know why Florida and Michigan decided to vote early. I only know that if I was in one of those states I would have raised hell and pushed hard to correct if I felt the law imposed on me to vote early would have affected my vote this way. I am just asking, but is it because someone thought that voting early would perhaps translate into some kind of advantage for a certain candidate? Who understands the reason this happened? How come this rule of the DNC has not been challenged before as a constitutionally unfit rule? Teaches us to pay more attention to our history, does it not?

Obama was not the only one who took his name off of the MI ballot; Biden, Edwards & Richardson all took their names off of the MI ballot. None of the candidates were able to take their names off of the FL ballot because in order to do so, they would have had to drop out of the race, i.e. end their campaign!

To give zero delegates and zero popular votes to Obama from MI would have been undemocratic. Exit polls showed 46% favored Clinton, 32% favored Obama & 12% favored Edwards. (see Wikipedia on this) If you break that down into delegates, it would have been HRC 59 delegates, Obama 41 & Edwards 15. So, in the end you could have imagined 59 for Clinton and 56 for Obama if Edwards gave him his share of delegates.

The committee also took into consideration that there were many who wrote in Obama's name on their ballot but those ballots were not valid because you are not allowed to write-in a candidate in a primary election.

A difference of 4 delegates for Clinton is not worth taking it to the convention and risking 4 years of McCain.

Clinton should just party it up in Puerto Rico, relish in her victory tomorrow and possibly one on Tuesday and then "work her heart out" to support the Democratic nominee.

what i find most ironic about all this, is that after months of trashing hillary and her supporters, now the bho people want us to join hands, have hillary campaign for bho, and have us vote for him. what is wrong with this picture?

OOOhhhh--a response!!

OK pp I feel compelled to answer you, not that Obama needs my defense. Saying "uncle" instead of "great-uncle" is not an issue--an uncle is an uncle. Saying "Auschwitz" instead of "Buchanwald" is not an issue, liberating people from either of those hell camps is something to be proud of. Who the hell cares where his parent met, like who the hell cares that Hillary's father taught her to shoot? With 8.000 people in church on Sunday morning, let me hear you say what went on. Better, prove to me that you were in church every Sunday for 20 years!!! Personally, I would not have left my church but then I am not running for president. I am not responsible for what other people say and cannot control it. I could very well say Hillary should distance herself from Ickes for his fowl mouth this evening at the DNC meeting, but I bet she won't--but I digress). The last three questions you pose, in some sort of attempt to make numerous these supposed "lies", are the same question so I will not elaborate on them. I will just say that yes a lie is a lie, but a lie is not always intentional. I will give Hillary the benefit of the doubt when she mispoke about the hospital story. It was a lie, but it was not intentional because she assumed the sheriff who relayed the story to her was a reliable source. But it WAS a lie, no? Shall we hold that against her? I think not. The difference is she INTENTIONALLY tells bold-faced lies, and looks right in the camera and smiles while she is doing it. There is no lying contest going on here. But if there was, unlike the nomination, she would WIN!!!

No rules shall be above our Constitution, the highest law of our land. Neither shall any delegates, superdelegates or political affiliations or surogates be above one another in terms of voting rights or any other rights.

ALL PERSONS ARE CREATED EQUAL. Floridians and Michiganers shall be honored with full equal rights and privileges guaranteed by the same Constitution they support and defend. Half vote would be an insult, not only to Florida and Michigan, but to democracy everywhere around the world. Every vote should be equally honored, and any less than equal will not fly.

The DNC's Rules & Bylaws Committee must think twice and cast their vote wisely because it may boomarang and haunt them later. Not only will the people of Florida and Michigan remember their vote tonight, but so will the rest of the nation as well as the rest of the world who look up to the U.S. as the beacon of the free world and democracy everywhere.

I want to leave you with the last words by Someone you might have known vaguely, "Love your neighbors as yourself, and do upon others what you would have done to yourself." Also ask yourself this question: Do I deserve only half the rights and privileges that everybody else in 48 other states enjoy?!

What are the Republicans posting as Clinton/Obama supporters going to do when Obama is the nominee next week? There are very clear contrasts between Obama and McCain. I think Murdoch may be right this time. McCain may well be too flawed to win. We'll see. The light is about to turn on.

Oh, OK Mary, I get it now!!. Hillary wanting to disrupt the process by calling a committee meeting to see if she can change the rules for her benefit is OK. But Obama getting delegates although he wasn't on the ballot is a no-no?, right?

So it depends on who benefits from the rule-breaking! Silly me for not understanding this sooner!!

Rules are rulse. Your words. Obama wasn't complaining about Michigan or Florida, no one was but Hillary and Hillarites (when she started losing). If she had just left things alone, and followed your advice (rules are rules), Obama would not have delegates now that you think he shouldn't have!! Hillary, in her self-serving, Me Me Me-ness, along with her desperation, fails to see the big picture and gave Obama just what he didn't ask for but will only help him--more delegates!!

I imagine that Obama supporters would like to thank Hillary and encourage her to keep up the good work!

Posted by: Bob F | May 31, 2008 9:06:57 PM
so mccain is not knowledgeable? like bho is??? bho cannot talk extemporaniously about anything except "hope and "change". he has absolutely no grasp of the issues without prompts.

Posted by: tired | May 31, 2008 9:42:59 PM

sorry, not about just unity...we do not blindly vote for whom ever the "party" thinks is okay. we DO NOT think bho is okay. we do not approve of his associations/friends/wife/etc. unity is one thing, voting for someone you do not approve of is another. given bho or mccain, i will vote for the patriot who loves the country and calls himself an american.

Posted by: tired | May 31, 2008 10:14:24 PM

why did he take his off?...he did not in florida...

If I walked into a bank and demanded money that was not in my account or a legal loan, I would be considered a criminal. If a politican demands votes/delegates when his name is not on the ballot, I would call that a stolen election. Senator Obama should be ashamed.