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'American Skin' (41 Points) -- Why West Virginia Matters

May 14, 2008 9:27 AM

FROM GUEST-BLOGGER RICK KLEIN:

Hi gang -- Rick Klein here from ABC's The Note, filling in through the end of the week for my colleague Jake Tapper, who is on a much-deserved vacation. (I know, none of us thought he took vacations, either.)

If you're not familiar with The Note, first of all, you should be, and second of all, here's an introduction.

Today we round up where things stand the morning after an Obama drubbing -- a 41-point shellacking in  West Virginia. Obama has lost before (though rarely by this much), but what makes this different is  that this contest came a week AFTER the mainstream media declared this race over, done, and finished. 

Democrats were told for seven solid days that it was just a matter of time before Clinton bowed to  the inevitable, and two-thirds of Democratic voters in a swing state just looked at Obama and said  thanks, but no thanks.

The pre- and post-contest spin from the Obama campaign has been about the math: That this is too  little, too late from Clinton to make a difference in the nominating contest. They're probably right  -- the math is quite stubborn, as the ABC political unit points out this morning

But it seems like leaving the response there ignores the real lessons of West Virginia. Yes, the  Clinton brand remains powerful in places like West Virginia in particular -- yet the Obama brand has  become a force in its own right. Yes, some voters are racists -- but that doesn't fully explain a 41-point margin.

The fact is that working-class voters (and yes, primarily the white ones) aren't hearing something in what Barack Obama is saying. The campaign can pretend like this isn't a problem, but if it's not a problem now, if will be in the fall. There are signs that, public pronouncements aside, the Obama campaign gets this -- it's one reason Obama is in Michigan today. He may have this locked down, but his hard work is just beginning.

-- Rick Klein

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America is truly amazing. Only in America can you get a college education and never be a racist. It is magic, the college degree is your proof you are and never will be a racist. LOL

Posted by: HP Boston | May 15, 2008 7:05:36 PM

Remember, all of the MSM and Obama supporters wanted Hillary to roll over and play dead even after the Iowa caucus. That just shows how crazy these folks are.

What an audacity.

Posted by: Sam | May 15, 2008 6:49:00 PM

Somebody please explain a 92% of the black vote for Obama.

Why do we accuse the white race of racism if Obama does not get majority of their vote and nothing is said of the over 92% of the black vote for Obama?

Posted by: SO | May 15, 2008 6:45:38 PM

if ove 90% of Blacks vote their color , What is keeping the Whites from doing the same????those who cry Wolf are NOT always the Victims.....I will vote Mc Cain , no doubt , and I hope white people will do the same , not because of racism but just to help correct the imbalance and injustice that have fallen on Hillary ....Go Hillary , go Mc Cain08...

Posted by: alohaone | May 15, 2008 5:15:11 PM

In Hillary Who? you have a petty,
miserable and exhausting loser.

Posted by: anon | May 15, 2008 12:43:47 AM

Carl Rove and the GOP know that they have two chances of taking the White House. One is to run a campaign of subtle racist aimed at the largest voting group in the country, white Americans without college degree. I doubt Reverand Wrights rants go very well with the rhis large voting block.
I could see Obama losing key battle ground states, like Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia costing the Democrats the White House.

The Gop will also use Obama's connection to Sryian born Antoin Rezco who is on trial right now in Chicago. Tony Rezco was a very good friend of Obama and they worked together on projects. Will something come out that can incriminate or embarrass him.
who

Posted by: CJbushwacker | May 14, 2008 11:57:35 PM

Go sit down and read a book, Darlene

Posted by: evelyn | May 14, 2008 10:29:43 PM

Many people said Bill Clinton was nothing but a governor from a small state, had no experience, was a far left candidate and would ruin america, but he did ok. So why is it that we can't afford Obama the same opportunity, after all he won fair and square by playing by the rules that everyone played by.

Posted by: fool me once | May 14, 2008 9:11:04 PM

Well, I know what I'm not hearing from Obama... neither sincerity nor capability.

Posted by: Mary | May 14, 2008 8:30:02 PM

This is a case that

The people against the party.

The eccentric party has their mind fixed and is working against the people. The whole nomination procedures are by and large incredibly disoriented. Party leaders seem to ignore the rules. Superdelegates come out to tell people to vote rather than listening and hearing.

The death of democracy in the democratic party. Let's see if they receive their punishment in the general election.

There is no reason to support a candidate which is not by the people, of the people and for the people. They may say what they want but people always know better what these politicians are playing. The people don't buy what the sly politicians sell.

Posted by: John_Lai | May 14, 2008 7:28:41 PM

I just read this in regard to the loss of the support of blue collar voters in WV, and what it means for the general election: “You just can’t abstract from primary voters to general election voters — and all of her [Clinton's]voters are going to vote for him [Obama],” said Jim Jordan, a Democratic consultant who is supporting Mr. Obama.

Could the Obama people be that dumb? I, for one, voted for Hillary and will vote for McCain if Obama gets the nod. I am a centrist voter, and both Hillary and McCain are centrist candidates. Obama is a creature of the Far Left. Hillary's approach to governing was proved during the Clinton years, so she is my first choice. McCain is second best, to be sure, but he will likely govern to the left of Bush. At any rate, he will not be a captive of the Far Right nutbags. Obama is the riskiest choice. His lack of experience will allow him to be manipulated by his Far Left backers, and will leave him uncertain in a crisis. His tepid patriotism will cause him to put the interests of other countries ahead of those of the America. He will focus on the needs of young voters, Blacks, the well educated, and the affluent -- i.e., his base. Blue collar voters would be insane to vote for him.

Posted by: David H | May 14, 2008 5:24:22 PM

I don't understand why he neglected WV even though majority population is white but Hillary campaigned so hard in NC even she knows majority population is AA.
Atleast she tried.
Maybe that's different between Obama and Hillary.
She is tougher than him.

Posted by: catleya | May 14, 2008 5:24:20 PM

Debra: I agree with you. We need to keep the faith. I truly believe that something is going to happen. I don't know what it is yet. But for some reason I believe that the Republicans and the Clintons know something, we don't know yet, about this Obama character.

I think the Clintons and the Republicans are saving it for the last minute, which will turn this whole election around.

There is something out there, that is very serious, that has to do with Obama.

Everyone is just sitting tight until the time is right!!!!

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 3:55:34 PM

Great...Howard Dean is announcing today about a joint fund raising commitment for both candidates and CNN says they will get into it later. WHAT?

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 3:51:09 PM

Darlene you have me laughing again. I really wanted to re-read your first post about his showing off, I literally almost wet my pants, which is why they took it off the blog. Love your sense of humor.
By the way, saw a bit of Hillary on CNN with Wolf and the interview looks great. He asked her about Chelsea's role in all of this and she got really choked up, as a mother would with pride, and I bet they jump all over her for tearing up. She can't do anything right. Keep the faith and let's keep our eyes on that strutting, arrogant excuse of a candidate.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 3:37:38 PM

I don't care how they label me, I VOW to not vote for Obama for anything, especially not President of the United States of America.

Posted by: justme2see | May 14, 2008 3:12:06 PM

David H...you're brilliant and summed it up completely and concisely. But I am still holding out they won't just hand it to Obama on a platter. I want an ugly struggle for it, to strengthen McCain's chances. I cannot stomach the thought of BO and his wife in the WH. Can you imagine extra tax payers $$ to pay for his posse of Secret Service? They will have to triple whatever has been spent in the past.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 3:11:14 PM

debra: Yes, it is true!!!! When I saw Obama on the you tube video showing off his A** in those K-Mart Jeans, I wanted to throw up.

He even posed for them with his leg on the arm rest so the female reporters could get a better look.

He was having the time of his life. Michelle, be careful, you husband is an Exhibionist!!!!!

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 3:10:53 PM

darlene...they took off your hysterical comment about BO in his jeans and how Michelle better worry about him showing off...and then you barfed. LOL. Anyway...the only thing we can do, as it seems BO's nom has everything to do with money....is to make our voices heard LOUDLY in Nov. by working to elect McCain. I can't wait until they review those exit polls to see mass exodus of Hillary Dems to McCain.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 3:02:21 PM

Obama doesn't need the white people. He doesn't need the women vote. He doesn't need the jewish vote. He doesn't need the Catholic vote.He doesn't need the hispanic vote. Yes, he doesn't need all these votes, because he is "THE MESSIAH"!!!!!

God will see to it that Obama will win, because Farrahkhan said that God has brought him to us, he is the Messiah!!!!!

Obama does not need votes because he will be anointed.He is the Messiah!!!!

Posted by: norm | May 14, 2008 3:01:37 PM

I feel quite sad for the Democratic party. The leadership is locked in a primary process that has become something of a joke. It is pretty well acknowledged that Obama gamed the primary system, where the delegates awarded in a caucus state, where 20,000 people voted, equaled the delegates awarded in a primary state, where 300,000 people voted. Obama's young voters, with lots of time on their hands, were able to dominate the caucuses to assure large margins for him. Nobody believes that the caucuses are in any way reflective of how people will vote in the general election. Witness Texas, where Hillary won the popular vote, but Obama got more delegates because he won the caucuses. Not only that, many of the big wins were in Red states.

Of course, it goes without saying that Michigan and Florida are fiascos. The fact that the Democratic leadership thought it was OK to exclude them simply says that these people have not got a thimble full of brains between them.

Because the delegate count is not reflective of Democratic voters in the general election, Obama is much weaker than his delegate count would indicate.

So, what we have is a clearly weak candidate in Obama, who is likely to win the nomination and then lose the general election. Not only will he be a weak candidate, but if he happens to win the presidency he will be the most inexperienced president we have ever had. It is scary to think of handing the keys to the government to him and his crowd of inexeperienced academics.

The superdelegates can change this result by handing Hillary the nomination, but they are quite understandibly scared to death of going against the so-called will of the people, as reflected in the elected delegate count. This is so even though the current delegate count does not reflect the will of the people, but reflects a seriously flawed primary process. The SDs may be afraid that if they hand the nomination to Hillary, Black people will, at best, stop voting for Democrats, or at worst riot in Denver. Maybe they are right. Maybe the best thing in the long run is to let Obama have his shot, if nothing else, to mollify the Black vote.

However, the SDs must realize that by catering to the Black vote and the extreme left wing of the Democratic party, they risk alienating a large number of blue collar voters. Bill Clinton, for all of his faults, managed to move the Democratic party to the center, where it has to be in order to win the presidency. Gore and Kerry pulled the party to the left, and lost. Obama is likely to pull the party to the extreme left, and the blue collar votes he loses may abandon the Democractic party for a generation, making it impossible for any Democrat to win the presidency.

Posted by: David H | May 14, 2008 3:00:41 PM

Justme2see: Thank you and I love you too!!!!!!!

Posted by: maggie | May 14, 2008 2:56:19 PM

Can anyone explain to me, how we little people, whom are just common folk voters, can see what is going on here. But intelligent people like the Superdelegates keep crooning Obama, when they know very well that he will not win, without the white vote, the older female vote, the catholic vote and the jewish vote.

Do they really think that the Hillary supporters will go over to Obama in the General Election!

What has Obama and Axelrod promised these superdelegates. It has to be lots and lots of monies!!!! and high positions!!!!

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 2:49:46 PM

maggie....I love it and you too!!!

Posted by: justme2see | May 14, 2008 2:46:56 PM

Obama and McCain are both sitting ducks for a third contender to run straight down the middle, and Hillary Clinton is poised to to be the person who could do it and win. I really hope she takes a shot at. I would rather see her try and fail than languish in the Democratic party.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 2:46:07 PM

The "Messiah" Obama has lost his charm many,many moons ago.

He is now an embarrassment to this country.

His good friend and neighbor William Ayers stomps on the AMerican flag; and now Mr. Obama is wearing an american flag lapel pin, after the photo of his friend Ayers is all over the news station showing this friend of his Ayers, stomping on the American flag.

Good timing Obama, you FAKE!!!!

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 2:44:56 PM

this election counts: First thing she should do is get that B**** Pelosi out. She is so jealous of HIllary, she would do everything in her power to let Hillary look bad.

Hillary should get rid of all the democrates in congress.

Secondly, give Richardson, Kennedy and Obama chauffeur duties driving her around; "Driving Miss Hillary"! Oh! yeah, also "Driving Miss Billy, too"!

Posted by: maggie | May 14, 2008 2:40:43 PM

this election,

This nomination race has demonstrated how dysfunctional the Democratic Party is anyway. I wouldn't worry about them. She is the most competent presidential candidate and she should go as an independent. Better her as an independent than John McCain.

Posted by: Robin | May 14, 2008 2:38:13 PM

the election counts...Oh the Dems would work with her I'm sure. Alot of republicans would work with her also, I think they could get more done with an Independent in office.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 2:37:55 PM

I sure hope the "political genius" of the Clintons is working overtime! Mistakes made in the early part of the campaign have been hurtful to her success. I hope they can salvage this and really make this an historical event!

Posted by: this election counts | May 14, 2008 2:37:37 PM

Alindra...don't slam the small town people of WVA and call them racists. Just because BO wins 95% of black vote and wins big in heavily populated black states...won't get him to the WH. I live in L.A. and would never vote for him, not due to his skin color. Many of the people you slam are the backbone of this country and the determinors of an election.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 2:35:19 PM

I would like to see HIllary run as an Independant if she does not get the Democratic nomination. However, I would then fear that her effectiveness in the whitehouse would be hampered by a resentful demcratic party.

Posted by: this election counts | May 14, 2008 2:33:23 PM

Obama made the idiotic housing comment about that we are now in a depression because of the housing problems.

He says we have 57 states.

They speak Arabic in Afghanistan

Canada has a president, not a Prime Minister.

Intelligently spoken from Obama's lips!!!

Posted by: maggie | May 14, 2008 2:31:55 PM

Obama is running as a Democrat, he is using the Democratic Party, not because he repects the Party but because it might get him elected. He should really run as a Marxist, his true political affilination. He has fooled far too many Americans and America will pay for being fooled. His resume is vacant of any real political decisions that helped the average American family but it is full of give-aways to irresponsible people. He has no idea how to overcome our problems of jobs and economy.

Posted by: Mia | May 14, 2008 2:31:09 PM

darlene..That why Hillary should run as a Independent, take votes from Obama and McCain and win.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 2:29:32 PM

Has anyone else noticed how the Republicans are getting really aggravated with McCain, because they feel that he is moving too much to the left. I think if McCain continues to move to the middle, he defintely will get alot of the Hillary votes which would cetainly give him a huge edge in the general election. It is not at all oout of reach for McCain to win the nomination per Hillary supporters whom felt they got cheated by not having their candidate as the democratic nominee.

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 2:27:33 PM

Norm...I just wish Rev. Al would pay his taxes.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 2:26:29 PM

HoosierSue...you're right about running McCain down...and they really will when they try to play young guy - old guy. Sorry, it just won't work. I'll be a "McCain Democrat", before EVER voting Obama. I really hope Hillary does not run as his VP, (though I don't see them offering it to her). I can't vote for BO even if Hillary is on the ticket to clean him up.
I am watching my local ABC news here in L.A. and of course, they mention BO's 2 supers he picked up today. NO MENTION OF HILLARY'S ONE. Nothing new there with media coverage...I'll switch to FOX.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 2:25:47 PM

Robin...I agree with you entirely, if the Obama team (kennedy, kerry, pelosi) gets there way, the goverment would swing to far left. We just had to go thru 8 years of neocon right, I for one would like to see a true Independent President who could preside without a party to answer to.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 2:22:02 PM

I find it disturbing how "tired" and worn out Obama is from this primary. He is in his 40's! and Hillary is 60 and the energy level is all on her side. He does not appear to have the fight, motivation and passion to give all that is needed to be the President of this country. Especially with the many crisis attacking us on all fronts. This should not be the time for Obama. Eight years from now- maybe.

Posted by: this election counts | May 14, 2008 2:21:28 PM

Pastor James Manning of Harlem just stated that Barack Hussein Obama has pimped the media into thinking that he could be our president. He says all the players: Rev.Jeremiah Wright, Rev. Al SHarpton, Jesse Jackson, Oprah Winfrey and Barack Hussein Obama are all in this together to get control of the Whitehouse. Obama has promised lots and lots to these players. I wonder what they all have under their sleeves. And according to the Pastor, Mr. Axelrod is the organizer behind this all.

Posted by: norm | May 14, 2008 2:20:49 PM

Racists surrounded by mountains is the recipe for the 41% win; they don't even venture outside, nor do others venture there: mine pits are not exactly resort places for visit, especially if you know that the locals are not hospitable to colored people. Check out other mountainous areas: fascists still survive in the Alps (in Austria and Switzerland), for ex.

Posted by: alindra | May 14, 2008 2:19:42 PM

If Obama wins, it will not be with the popular vote but by stealing the election. Obama pledged $20 million to help the superdelegates in the next election and getting elected again is more important than what is best for America. Obama wins by dirty politics. If Florida and Michigan voters voices are not counted, there should be a rebellion against the dictator Obama. He cares more for those people who live in gov. housing, using food stamps and drugs and having a baby a year on tax payers dollars. He does not care for the White families who work hard and live within their means. He is a far left liberal/socialist.

Posted by: Mary | May 14, 2008 2:19:32 PM

Jim,

I have been thinking about it for a long time. She has no future in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has no future itself being owned by the far left. She has a good agenda for America. That is what we should care about.

Posted by: Robin | May 14, 2008 2:15:10 PM

Running down McCain isn't making Obama look any better. In fact, it's just reinforcing the fact that I could never support a man who inspires such blind hatred among his followers.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 14, 2008 2:14:16 PM

Of course the Democrats who supported Clinton will have to support Obama. Fortunately, we voters don't have any such career allegiances to uphold. How sweet it is!

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 14, 2008 2:12:33 PM

I actually just heard a "journalist" excuse Obama's 57 States remark by saying that he's fatigued and this is why this race needs to end - so he can rest up for the General Election.

We all remember how upon returning from his Easter holiday, Obama said that this primary had been "like the Bataan Death March."

Does he think this is the hard part? Does he think serving as POTUS is easier than this?

Hillary isn't tired; she's just getting warmed up!

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 14, 2008 2:10:06 PM

Robin.. interesting pole, It would be a hard choice for Hillary to make, but I really think that she could win even if the election has to go to the House to decide.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 2:09:52 PM

While all the dems are still fighting over Who won the primary, President McCain will be picking Supreme Court Judges

Posted by: bubba2 | May 14, 2008 2:06:13 PM

Jim,

you are not along in that thought. A recent Rasmussen poll shows that 29% of democrats want her to run as an independent if she is not the nominee:

The hijacking of the Democratic Party by the far left and the poor judgement of the Party leaders have alienated too many people in this Primary season.

Posted by: Robin | May 14, 2008 2:05:13 PM

I really hope the Clinton campaign considers the idea. I am getting the impression that she really does not have a great future in the Democratic party. Harry Reid is going no where anytime soon, so I say go for it. Also if Bob Barr runs,...McCain would be even easier to beat.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 2:02:27 PM

It appears that hillarys biggest supporter see the writing on the wall. Why can't you see it.

Let's analyze what Gov. Rendell of PA said:

"If Senator Obama becomes our nominee and he wants someone to carry the Clinton banner there's no question in my mind he should ask Hillary Clinton," Rendell told CNN's Kyra Phillips.

He sounds like he's becoming a reasonabl man and what he is really saying is that I will support the democrats whoever the nominee is?

Posted by: Wake-Up America | May 14, 2008 2:00:44 PM

Jim: Right on! I love your idea! Let's get it over to Hillary!!!!!

That would be so awesome if she won the presidency after all the crap the media has given Hillary, running on an Independent Ticket.

Your right! She is the only candidate that is running down the middle!!!!

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 1:53:04 PM

Debra: I agree with you. The only consolation we have is that the Superdelegates will change their minds after the last primary in June; and if Hillary looks more electable than Obama (which she will look), they can switch over to her.

I think we will see a surge of Supers going to, or switching over to Hillary once they learn that Obama is not electable without the lower income, middle class worker, including the catholics and the jewish vote that is going heavily to Hillary.

I will say this again: the older women vote, the catholic vote, the hispanic vote, the lower, middle income voter and the Jewish voter......HILLARY SUPPORTERS!!!!!!

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 1:50:24 PM

The only thing Hillary has in common with blue collar white folks in w. virginia is the color of her skin which she is exploiting to her advantage.

Let's face it, some white folk will not vote for a black man if their life depended on (especially in W.VA, Indiana, Penn & Kentucky) where you have few people of color. These people have not been exposed to the pleasures of diversity.

On the other hand Barack has won other white states with no problem simply becuase those states had more and better educated whites. I really don't think he has the problem it's they (blue-collar/uneducated whites) are ones with the problem.

IMHO, I've been luck to have the pleasures of meeting and living among many diverse communities that it really makes the world a better exciting place.

Posted by: Wake-Up America | May 14, 2008 1:48:00 PM

I still say Hillary should finish the primaries, take KY. and PR with huge margins and then run as a Independent Dem. She can put Obama on the left and McCain on the right, and run straight down the middle. Hillary can get federal funding along with her supporters who would be energized to see the first Independent "and" Female President, she can beat both of them in the GE. Electing an Independent Woman would be the biggist change this country has seen in a long... long time.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 1:46:16 PM

J. McCrank will crank up the
war. He thinks the economy
is overheated and wants to
crank it down.

The confused codger lives in
the past and will be no good
for the country.

Posted by: anon | May 14, 2008 1:44:55 PM

It's interesting that even though Obama got two Super D's today, Hillary got one (as usual, I expected a push on superd's for him whenever she does well). What really comforts me though, is that a pledged super d can change their mind and their votes don't count until the convention....a pledge is not a locked in deal. So all the super d's have until August to switch if so inclined. They should really sit the rest of this out until Puerto Rico votes. We are not impressed with their trickling over to BO.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 1:40:10 PM

Oh Jane...Why do we have to suffer the thoughts and ramblings of Camille. I live in Philly and have to here her students recant the dribble she imparts to them.

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 1:32:38 PM

Errol Smythe....what is "maths"?

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 1:32:21 PM

Hi, Rick, thanks for sitting in.

It's a shame more people aren't pointing out what Obama's loss means the way you have; most of the press is just glossing over it. People read the headlines and think this primary was unimportant but it's not.

Posted by: Vnd | May 14, 2008 1:31:17 PM

Darlene....oh my god....I have never laughed so hard from a posting. I truly thank you from the bottom of my heart....really the best, and I needed the laugh. This political season is making me very tense.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 1:30:55 PM

J. McCrank doesn't have a ghost of
chance in November. The ancient
McCodger may as well concede
right now.

Posted by: anon | May 14, 2008 1:28:14 PM

Jane, you've got to be kidding....Clinton's being protected by ABC journalists and media? Like the journalists/news media haven't been in the tank for Obama since day 1? They've been pushing the first viable black candidate since the beginning of this thing which is why Edwards dropped out so early...he had no chance. But Hillary, the first viable female was treated like crap from day one. If anyone can't see sexism has less shame associated with it than racism, they're on another planet. She is by far more capable, more deserving.....but let's give it to the black guy, and look like the progressive democratic party that we are. Hello President McCain!

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 1:25:40 PM

Too much negativity ain't going to change the maths. OBAMA has changed thre gameplan.The maths has put the nomination into his back pocket.
Superdelegates have started the mass exodus to Obama.
Obama is charting his election campaign strategy to heal the party. Mend the broken dreams and bring the party back on track.There you have it.
Hillary can now plan her exit strategy with honour.The maths declare that OBAMA wins.Superdelegates will go with the maths and the will of the people. Errol Smythe

Posted by: Errol Smythe | May 14, 2008 1:20:17 PM

Hillary Who? started this campaign
with a boast: her 35 years of (non)
experience.

If she doesn't pack up and go home
now, she will end up with a debt
of 35 million.

Posted by: anon | May 14, 2008 1:18:21 PM

Cindy,

Obama won Missouri 49 to 48, with 1% of the voters uncommitted and, as Debra points out, it was before Jeremiah Wright surfaced. Don't count on Missouri in November. Clinton won rural areas in Missouri overwhelmingly.

Posted by: Robin | May 14, 2008 1:14:39 PM

Here is the way I see it I am voting for Hillary because she is smart and I trust her and she is a woman, and maybe women will be protected better in this mean world she is making history in the image of me. AA are voting for Obama because he is smart they trust him and in this mean world maybe they will be proteceted better he is making history in thier own image. God knows these two groups of people have been abused since the begining of mankind. because we have had to fight to survive we are like beta fish.IMO powerful white men are playing games piting us against each other.

Posted by: Bishop | May 14, 2008 1:13:48 PM

Obama has lost the Reagan Democrats with the "bitter" speak and the good Rev. and they will not come back in the fall. He will lose the GE just like Kerry, Dukaukis, and Mondale, not because he is black, but because he can't and won't get there vote, just like the other losers. A 41 point lose at this stage of the primary season is down right embarassing, and he is heading for another next week. Oh yes he always has Oregon to make him feel better, he hopes....

Posted by: Jim | May 14, 2008 1:13:16 PM

Too much negativity ain't going to change the maths. OBAMA has changed thre gameplan.The maths has put the nomination into his back pocket.
Superdelegates have started the mass exodus to Obama.
Obama is charting his election campaign strategy to heal the party. Mend the broken dreams and bring the party back on track.There you have it.
Hillary can now plan her exit strategy with honour.The maths declare that OBAMA wins.Superdelegates will go with the maths and the will of the people. Errol Smythe

Posted by: Errol Smythe | May 14, 2008 1:13:05 PM

Interesting on Charlie Rose last night (of course pro BHO) they were talking VP possibilities. They said BHO needs some one that knows their way around Washington. I had a good laugh on that one. Not experienced to know the ins and outs of Washington. Pretty confident about his experience.

Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 14, 2008 1:08:26 PM

It's about experience not race. I don't know how Obama can win in Nov. obviously the swing states don't buy what he is selling.

Posted by: Tina from Florida | May 14, 2008 1:05:10 PM

Jane, thanks but no thanks. Beating a dead horse toots. I seriously doubt that the right didn't look under ever rock to find more on the Clintons. Get over it. A lot of tax payers money wasted on nothing. Typical GOP. Waste money on bogus accusations & then blow trillions on a war based on lies.

Lord bless this mess!

Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 14, 2008 1:02:22 PM

Cindy...Missouri voted BEFORE knowing all we now know about BO. He still had his new car smell and Americans were desperate to hear the words "Change", and "Hope"....then we just heard "hate", "U S of KKK",& "God Damn America", wife proud of country for 1st time, small town folks are bitter and cling to religion, etc. Missouri will not vote BO in Nov.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 1:00:01 PM

Why do ABC journalists continue to coddle and protect the Clintons? As Camille Paglia points it:

Republican operatives have been salivating for Hillary to be the nominee. Her vainglorious claim to have been fully “vetted” is ludicrous. She and her husband left a mountain of manure in Little Rock and Washington that hasn’t even begun to be thrown. The mainstream media, despite its tilt toward Obama, has been amazingly protective of the Clintons during this campaign. Where were the chronologies of the voluminous Clinton scandals that voters (especially young ones) needed to evaluate Hillary’s professional judgment and character? That the conservative Washington Times has now begun to make document drops about Hillary’s stonewalling and duplicity (such as over the Rose Law Firm billing records) suggests that Republicans have concluded her candidacy is kaput.
Surely, given Hillary’s claim of expertise on the basis of her service as first lady, every major or ambiguous episode in her husband’s two presidencies should have been systematically reexamined by the media. I for one have renewed questions about the 1993 suicide of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, Hillary’s former law partner and longtime friend, whose files were purged by Hillary’s staff before they could be examined for evidence. One must always be skeptical about Web rumors, but my interest was piqued last year by claims that Foster was shattered by the role he had played three months earlier in the outrageous order for federal agents to attack David Koresh’s ranch at Waco, Texas, producing a conflagration that led to 76 deaths, including 21 children. Why has the Waco fiasco been forgotten? It triggered the worst case of domestic terrorism in U.S. history, the 1995 revenge bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

See her entire column on Salon.

Posted by: Jane | May 14, 2008 12:56:32 PM

Obama is a far left socialist! Is this the man we want as President of the United States. Are we going to have Moveon.org; Farrahkahn. William Ayers, Axelrod, Jesse JAckson and AL Sharpton choose our president?

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 12:46:22 PM

Debra: This is a story the media has once again skipped over to help their Obama favorite. Obama's background is NOT "American" one of "faith". Now the DNC is starting to say that we will all hear about Obama's background! Well - he has things to hide that is why he stumbles and does not talk about how much he loved his Mother. But now the DNC will tell Obama what to say about his background and love of this country and groundedness in fgaith> HA! More lies from Obama.

Posted by: this election counts | May 14, 2008 12:46:14 PM

Obama thinks they speak "Arabic" in Afhanistan. Obama thinks we have 57 states! And this is a college educated man!!!

Is there really 57 states and it is classified and only Obama know?

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 12:41:53 PM

Rick,

When does Wright's book come out??? Has anyone bothered to ask him what the terms of his book deal are, exactly?

Also, what is going into Obama's so-called victory speech on May 30?

Posted by: Which Great Lake is in Oregon? | May 14, 2008 12:40:44 PM

al....he was forced to "reject" the endorsement of Farrakahn too...by HILLARY at one of their debates. He tried to skirt it and not offend his racist militant black supporters, but his empty "denounce" was not believable. Wright and Farrakhan are birds of a feather.

Posted by: Debra | May 14, 2008 12:37:22 PM

sorne: you better get use to it. The women vote and the catholic vote are the swing voters. And guess what, Obama ain't getting it.

Stick that in your "manly pipe" and smoke it!!!!

Posted by: darlene | May 14, 2008 12:35:51 PM

Winners and losers life goes on,can some tell mrs clinton presidency is not her birthright so that we can have peace.