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Every Catholic needs to email the Archdiocese about Pfleger. I just did, he needs defrocked and excommunicated. The Church's silence is deafening and they wonder why we don't attend Mass anymore. The abuse of children and now this.

The likes of Pfleger have no place in the Catholic religion I grew up knowing.
He needs to be ousted.

I am a life-long Chicagoan, a 50 year old cradle Catholic and father of 5 children. During the last 5 or more years I have been focusing on evangelization and apologetics. I consider myself to be a devout and Orthodox Catholic.

Of all the newspaper articles, web and TV and radio commentaries that I have seen, heard and read, no one has focused on the central issue of Catholic Theology, specifically, the fact that Catholicism teaches that abortion is one of the five non negotiable issues for Catholic voters. Abortion is an intrinsically evil action.

Now the fact that Fr Pfleger, a Catholic priest, endorses a pro-abortion (including partial-birth abortion) candidate is concern in itself. (Also, wasn't Pfleger a prominent member of "Catholics for Obama"?) By endorsing a pro-abortion candidate Pfleger is de facto endorsing the intrinsically evil act of abortion, and any other evil in which Obama may believe.

In my opinion, Pfleger is not in communion with the Catholic Church!

Why has the Church hierarchy allowed this renegade priest to remain in his role as a priest in the Catholic faith? What has happened to the standards of the Church? What is God thinking about His Church and the leadership here in the Chicago area? Why is the Church allowing this "Cafeteria Catholic Priest" to influence and confuse the flock??? Why hasnt the Church hierarchy denounced and renounced Pfleger's anti-Catholic beliefs? It is not relevant to argue that Pfleger is allowed to stay in his position as pastor simply because his parishoners like him. What does matter is Fleger's willingness to conform to the teachings of the Catholic faith, some of which may not be popular in secular society but nonetheless are true. Fr Pfleger's parishoners are being deceived and misled away from the true teachings of the Catholic faith by the mere fact that Pfleger is actively endorsing a Pro-Abortion candidate. How can he or ANY Catholic vote for Clinton OR Obama? Why is the Church NOT standing up for the truth by stating that NO Catholic is allowed to support any candidate for any political office who endorses abortion??

Is it any mystery why so many Catholics are tepid, cafeteria Catholics? Is it any wonder why so many are leaving the Catholic Church???

The actions and comments made my Rev. Pfleger in the past weeks are dispictable. I have grown up Catholic and while the church has not reacted to some wrong doings by the clergy I and still Catholic and feel that this Rev. should no longer be a member of the Catholic church. His comment's and just his general way of "preaching" do not and will never fit in the ways of the Catholic church. He should be fired and never speak as a Catholic priest ever again.

New Pfleger quote from last Sunday: "America is the greatest sin to God."
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Black liberation theology: All white people are the oppressors and need to be defeated by any means necessary; America is evil, US govt is evil, capitalism is evil, and the middle class are the enemy. Any God that loves white people should be killed. Israel is to be hated because Jews are really not the "chosen people"--blacks are. The USA is the greatest evil and terrorist state of all. Israel must be gone. Palestine must win. The UK only means imperialism and so does the USA.

--The USA should be "destroyed"--Malcolm X.
--"America needs to be burned down."--Farrakhan
--"GD America. US of KKK of A"--Pastor Wright
--"America is the greatest sin against God"-Pfleger
--"America is downright mean."--Michelle Obama

There is obviously a PATTERN of HATE for the USA and Barack Obama should not be anywhere CLOSE to the White House!!!

You throw in Bill Ayers who declared war on America via bombings and terror....

WHY is this being allowed to happen?

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BTW, Rashid Khalidi / Obama connection was on Hannity's America last night. Khalidi hates Israel and worked for the terrorist organization the Palestinian Liberation Organization and worked for the Palestinian press agency, and he and his wife were spokespeople for Arafat.

To answer the writer's last question ("heard a cleric engage in such disdainful mockery from a pulpit"):

EMPHATICALLY YES!!

Now....the question is, is what he said TRUE????!!!!

Be careful who you wish for..... your wish list is getting VERY VERY s m a l l
and the D N C isn't even democratic!

I will never vote for a man who cannot win even O N E election honestly!!

paul | May 31, 2008 10:13:33 PM:

Good, thoughtful post!

Thank you.

Ok I have read all these comments. Most are exactly what I hoped for. I have been reading so many comments from other sections political punch..those have scared me. As most of you I agree. RED FLAGS are a flyin over Obama. Since most of you said the same thing about being around and involved for 20 years and must have the same beliefs.
SO I will move on to this. THere was a nation once, that was stricken with hard times. THe people wanted a change and wanted to believe in something better. As this man spoke he captivated his audiance. The promise of a new life. A new more powerful nation. One that would give hope and make all proud once again. People put faith in this speaker. They wanted to believe in his words of hope. They wanted to feel good about not only themselves but their country. He inspired so many. In time he was their leader. The changes came, people found themselves feeling proud, believing in honor and living with a new sense of pride. With each passing year the changes came. Soon people became not only ignorant, but became arrogant, and the feeling of superior to others overwhelmed them. Lets not forget what this lead to. The death of millions. A nation so evil and brutal to their fellow man that it is unforgivable what took place in their promis of change. It took a world war to end this mans promis of change and hope for a new stronger country. Lets not be blind as the people of this country was. LEts not let our tuff economy, our struggling lives mis lead us into believing a capaign sloggin about change, about hope. Lets really open our eyes and see him for what he really is. A wolf in sheeps clothing.
As far as the priest....I am sorry that the catholic stance was so little. Im ashamed that they allow him to wear uniform of a man of god. God does not judge people by color. Nor does or did he ever teach about hate. I hope that the church will re think its stance on him and removed this man. FOr surly he is a man of god,only a man of racist beliefs. God warned us of pretenders of the cloth.
I hope that more and more people will look at Obama's friends. Lets look at his raising and his 20 years of faithful service in a church that preaches seperation and hate. Lets remember those who served to protect this country 65 years ago. Lets not allow this country to be ashamed of our future and have to live with regret. We have the power to correct this error in judgement prior to knowing who Obama really is now. Lets send his church and his followers a message that we will not be a bunch of puppets to be lead with fancy speaches.

The Catholic Church is used to give a "slap in the wrist" to priests who deviate. It is time for Cardinal George to 'act' instead of just accepting "a promise not to do it again."
As I browsed all the above comments, it is sad to read how much division this priest has promoted and reinforced. Jesus's disciples are supposed to bring unity, peace and harmony.

Obama has now resigned from his church. Sadly, it appears that it's views and feelings were acceptable for so many years, but is tossed aside when it may stand in the way of his rise to power.

There is much truth in what Father Pfleger says; too bad he seems not troubled by Obama's support of abortion.

It is the job of the Cardinal to keep his ducks in line. One has to wonder how a priest who has been arrested "dozens of times" and who speaks so disgracefully from the pulpit can be allowed to continue. Cardinal Francis George needs a kick in the seat of the pants from the Vatican if necessary to make him do his job and send this guy to his room. Right now I'd have to say that Pfleger is not just an embarassment, but a real turnoff to Christ loving Catholics.

What does the Pope have to say about this?

Obama pretend to be a sweet, nice and clean guy. This guy is tricky, he used his supporters to say bad things about his opponents, McCain or Clinton.

The company someone chooses to keep is a measure of the person. It has been reported by Lynn Sweet of the Chicago SunTimes that Senator Obama has known the priest for years and was considered a friend by Obama. In addition, he was affiliated with Obama's campaign as an advisor until a few weeks ago.

This calls into question at least 3 important issues: Senator Obama's judgment; whether Senator Obama agrees with the views of those he has chosen to include in his campaign; and whether this further calls into question Senator Obama's electability.

Since Obama cannot say negative things about Hillary, bho uses his supporters to do it, like rev.wright and father pfleger. And then pretend denounced them......This guy is tricky.

My big question is this: How many who voted for Obama prior to the proliferation of the Rev. Wright video wish for their vote back? How many would've voted for Hillary instead? What if Obama finds that Penn, WV and KY weren't a fluke - the hard way?

Fed up in Washington,

I asked a simple question I havent insulted you, your nation or your leaders.

"Obama is promising change and failing mightily, just as your newest leader has done."

Our PM Kevin Rudd is doing a great job he has an aproval raiting of 72% so I fail to see how he is failing ?

I guess what I will take from you is that you dont have an answer for the question. Because I have already seen In the newspapers here that he is not a staff member he is a long time friend and was part of Obama's spirtual outreach group.

I understand that how and what he said wasnt the best but Hillary did the same thing to Obama with that speech mocking Barack "Celestial Choirs" will sing and so on.. he will wave a magic wound and so on. There is no way Obama would aprove of what this man said besides being wrong it isnt helpful to Obama.

Or do you think Obama put him up to it ?

If you did for what gain?

Dear Aussie:

This priest is an unpaid staff member on Obama's campaign. THAT's what's wrong with it. Andit is unmitigated racism, sexism, ageism, and arrogance. Those of us who have been on the front lines advancing minority causes all our lives don't appreciate being treated with such disdain. I recognize that Obama can win without us, and I'm sure he can. The fact that it is so calculated makes it even worse.

Besides, Obama is promising change and failing mightily, just as your newest leader has done. The phoniness and discrimination are the issues here.

Ridiculing anyone at all, for whatever reason, is cruel. Why should anyone be ridiculed? I find the laughter in the audience extremely disturbing. Is that what we can expect in an Obama presidency?