Archdiocese of Chicago Hammers Father Pfleger

I was raised Catholic and seen priests come and go through out the years, NOT once did I ever hear a sermon so disgraceful or dark politic rhetoric. No wonder women cannot be priests, no wonder a few phedophiles sneak through the religion cracks, abortions, priests cannot marry...Priests too busy butting into primary election campaigns. Pfleger reeks with disappointment; he should be tarred and feathered and flogged. Obama, BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER!

To Greg in Seattle:

To answer your question, yes - these things drip, drip, drippig out are causing me to examine my choices carefully. As someone who has pulled the lever for a democrat in every single election since 1980, I initially supported John Edwards and then switched to Hillary when he dropped out. I have resigned myself to Obama being the democratic candidate and thought I could vote for him, but now I'm not so sure.

I have been reading everything I can on Obama's background, starting with his first run for the Illinois Senate. Truthfully, what I am seeing is not something I like. He was able to run unopposed in his first primary by challanging the qualifying petitions of his competitors by employing an army of lawyers and volunteers to question each signature on the petition. If that didn't work, they questioned who had circulated the petitions. Hardball politics, to say the very least.

Looking at his background in Chicago, he also certainly has a number of friends, acquaintences and supporters with somewhat unsavory histories - Rezko, Ayres, Dorhn, Pfleger, etc. Much of the legislation he was credited with pushing through the Illinois Senate was given to him by the leader of that chamber, a close personal friend of Rev. Wright, much to the chagrin and anger of his collegues in the Senate.

I am also very uncomfortable with his membership in Trinity. After reading as much as possible about that particular church and its teachings, I do not consider it a "mainstream" church. The church is "unrepentedly" Afro-centric and follows Black Liberation theology, which says whites are oppressors and are essentially the Anti-Christ. He can disavow and distance himself as much as wants, but twenty years of membership seems to indicate something about his true feelings and mind set. When you don't agree with the tenor of your church, you leave. It's as simple as that. I left my church when I disagreed with what I thought was a political stance it had taken concerning gay marriage during the 2004 election. It wasn't easy, but it was the principle and it was the right thing to do. I haven't been back since then.

I now find myself in a quandry. I just do not think I can vote for Obama, nor do I think I can bring myself to vote for John McCain. I will be left with only two choices - stay home in November or write in Hillary Clinton's name. My choices are disappointing, to say the least.

It is true that the company you keep says something about you. It is even worse, as someone noted here, that the UCC congregation cheered the priest.

And this idea that anyone who does not support Obama is automatically a racist is absolute nonsense. I'm tired of hearing that from Obama supporters.

It should also be noted that if Catholics followed the church's doctrines, there would be a heck of a lot more of them - so even though priests might have supported Kennedy, I wouldn't give that much credence.

As a former UCC member, I'm sorry to say I'm not surprised by anything happening in Trinity UCC. I left because not only were they self-righteous, they were arrogant about it, my favorite example being a minister who announced at communion that "unlike other churches, we welcome anyone who calls himself a Christian."

The new Trinity minister is every bit as bad as the Rev. Wright.

Is there anyone who is not black that the members of that church will not attack and cheer? If that is not racism, sexism, and ageism, I don't know what is.

I guess the time has come, or will come after he has had about 5 days to think about it, for Obama to make another big tele-prompter speech. He can again tell us how it is all white America's fault.

And how we need a national dialogue on why we ever question anything about his life, or his associations. It is all our fault because we are just not sophisticated enough to understand.

Then he can assure us again that he didn't know Wright, Pfleger, or even wonderful ol' Louis F, hated white people, . That they never in 20 years discussed race or politics.

Point out again that the only racist person in his life that he has ever been aware of was his white grandmother.

That he didn't know Ayers liked to blow stuff up.

Or that Tony liked to own people using terrorist money.

Nor the fact that Michelle had never in her life been proud or happy as an American.

Etc., Etc., Etc.

HeHeHe, we are witnessing the greatest implosion of the Democratic Party sine 69. The battles between the left wing loons and the moderates in the party are just ripping it apart.

I just love the fact that BO supporters claim voting for McCain will be 4 more years of Bush because of their similar political association, but claim we should just ignore BO’s association with race baiters and America haters. Now that’s what I call talking out of 2 sides of your mouth, what a joke. If half of your friends are drug addicts or pedophiles, I would say it’s a safe bet you’re of the same class or at least condone such behavior.

It’s the moderates and independents that are going to determine the GE, and if BO gets the nod it’s going to be a blood bath in the GOP favor. I for one hope that is the outcome, I’m sick of paying higher taxes for a larger bureaucratic federal government.

This man cannot be a Catholic priest. No true Catholic would even consider supporting Obama. Obama's record is in consistent and deep contrast to the ideals, dogma, and mandates of the Catholic church. If Obama were Catholic, he would be excommunicated, as should this nutjob of a priest. The real Catholic's choice (only choice): McCain.

We all have our opinions but the truth is you ARE judged by the company you keep. And the pattern that is emerging is that the company that Senator Obama keeps is extremely unsavory. I'm sure the Democratic Party would like all of these characters to go away and for all of us to forget what we've seen and heard. I'm also sure the Republican Party, after the nomination is set in stone, will use this to their full advantage. And so they should. These associations are not only distasteful but extremely dangerous for this country.

In 1976 when I was an insignificant graduate student at the University of Illinois, the most charged and prolific word of my two and one half years spent there was -- CHANGE! Even then, before Jimmy Carter, before Ronald Reagan, before George Bush or Bill Clinton, the goal was CHANGE! How significant is it that movement from one ideology to ANY other is more important than the resultant effect achieved by any ideology propounded by a national political movement? Isn't it more about change than any concrete plan, program or policy? Leftists, many in our Church, can't see the forest for the trees! We suffer useful idiots like Michael Pfleger! Those welcoming and accepting national benefits applaud his antics, while practical, pragmatic Catholics turn their backs on his insufferable dogma because it offends our historic sensibilities and our heritage of reasonable, community humanistics. Self-sufficiency, idealistic pragmatism and independence will win the day every time. Pfleger shall not deter our faith or offset our magnanimous intent without our protest. If the Archdiocese cannot or will not curtail Pfleger's words or deeds, then they, too should suffer the wrath of the congregation. How ignorant they are!

Thank you, america for all. I didn't know that information about Annie Oakley.

Like you, I've also spent my adult life trying to level the playing field. I didn't expect thanks, but I did expect respect. But apparently that doesn't matter any more, so long as Obama gets what he wants.

Too little, too late, Your Eminence! Pfleger has chased thousands of otherwise faithful from the Church over the recent years. He is a wanton and reckless catalyst. It is long past time he was truly and severely censured and chastised by your office! It is a shame that this episode occurred before I sent you my most honest and reserved considerations concerning Michael Pfleger. He is recognized far and wide as a self-promoting, egregious sycophant, not an advocate for anyone. Reign him in or suffer the consequences! The Church suffers every time he shows his face!

"As someone of faith" - real journalistic integrity, Tapper. What an annoying disclosure.

Father Pfleger, was given a slap on the wrist. He should have had discipline proceedings brought against him.

At least the Catholic Church Addressed it far better than Obama did.

His Friend and his religious family applauding and cheering that on, in his own church. He brushed it off, shows he is accustom to that as a routine matter there.

I can't hold this to Obama's charge.

I hope others don't as well.

TUCC the Santa Clause to the GOP Christmas tree.

I think i could have gone the rest of my life and not heard any of the sermons from tucc.
If there is anything i hold against obama for this is his being on the national scene, has brought these character on the national scene.
he should have taken care of this before he decided to run for president.
unless he really didn't find anything wrong with what is being preached there.

I thought churches could lost tax exemption if they did things such as what we have seen out of tucc.

just a question,

is there anyone else out there like me
thinking, if obama heard nothing but sermons about the love of god and peace, love for fellowman, etc,
where are thoses sermons?
if this is a church where obama says he
"found christ"- when do they ever talk of him?

i wonder if obama has been back to church?

i am glad the church reprimanded the father.

Please...it is so important that you think! It was the reaction of the congregation that is disturbing and they have been in Barrack's camp for some time. To clap for these religious leaders is to support racism. I am both disgusted and scared.

Still after 24hours the only portion of the tape that appears on NBC and ABC is just the mocking Hillary part, which a lot of people will agree with, laugh and move on. Rewind the tape to the beginning (watch the whole 3:45 minutes on you tube as now 260,000 have done) and you will see the rant isn't just about Hillary. To paraphrase the priest: ALL you white people need to give up your entitlements (earned money, 401 plans, even the good jobs you were handed for no reason other than being white) if you ever expect to wash the sin of your ancestors from yourself. You are guilty by association for no other reason than your color.

That is the real message here, and the one that should cause pause.

Obama should be shunned.
And his racist, criminal friends.

What I found distasteful about Rv. Pfleger remarks.
That if a woman is white she is entitled and only black people are oppressed. It all about skin color and not at all about sex.

If that was true there would have been a woman president already.

Qualfied women have run Gerraldine Ferraro was a VP and I remember that in a cold war age it was supposed she couldn't pull the trigger for a nuke because she was a woman or she would pull the trigger for a nuclear bomb because she had her period. That was 20 years ago.

I agree there has been oppression but skin color is not only oppression that has happened.

I was taught “birds of a feather flock together” and “one bad apple makes the whole barrel bad”. We are all judged by who we have as friends. People that do drugs hang together, drinkers hang together, racists hang together, conservatives hang together. It is human nature to seek out those who think and behave as you do. Barry Hussain Obama is a racist and thinks the church he attends.