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As Go Guam and Mellencamp...
May 03, 2008 9:04 PM
ABC News reports that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is the winner of the Guam Democratic caucuses today.
With 100 percent of the precincts reporting, Obama received 2,264 votes to Sen. Hillary Clinton's 2,257 votes.
Yes, you read that right. Obama beat Clinton by seven votes.
They will split the four delegates (or eight half-delegates) 50/50, but Obama will be able to say he won.
Curiously, in her concession announcement, Clinton made much mention of issues of importance to Guam residents -- paying them millions of dollars in reparations on behalf of Japanese soldiers during World War II, for instance -- but she said nothing about her promise to potentially amend the Constitution to give them the right to vote. Hmmph.
Here in Indianapolis, John Mellencamp is playing at a concert for Clinton tonight, having serenaded Obama a few days ago.
Mellencamp, like the Democratic party itself, is torn right down the middle.
- jpt
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I guess people do not remember how Bill Clinton's actions in the White House did nothing for Al Gore in 2000. I suppose most people do not remember how the Clintons were investigated from the time they announced their run in 92 until they left in 2001 and continue to be investigated in 2008. I guess the media does not think it is worth any coverage when one of Hillary's main campaign workers goes to jail for election fraud. Then there is White Water, her votes supporting the war, and her inflammatory remarks about Iran. Her affiliations with radicals that make anything Obama has been associated with look like kindergarten stuff. I believe she has been everything from a Republican to a Communist or extreme radical supporter to a Democrat. She has run a poor campaign and much like her lame attempt to ram her version of health care down everyone's throat in 93 that was met with disaster I believe that is exactly how she will try and run her administration. She has all of these plans but has anyone bothered to ask Congress what they think. If it is anything like Congress's reaction to her gas holiday I do not expect her to get much support. This means to me that she will be a continuation of the same old politics with Hillary never getting any support from Republicans and probably not much from her own party. In fact her only successes will be much like Bill's were. Republican initiatives like Nafta and welfare reform that were not supported by his own party. This of course led to more jobs being shipped overseas and less or no money when it comes to us taking care of our own right here in this country. I do not think people should live off of the government. But when we got people hurting with high prices, when we got people dying from bridges collapsing, and when we got graduation rates of just 25 % I think we need to seriously think about helping ourselves for a change instead of playing world cop. That is what we got the UN for. 41 used the UN very successfully. I think 43 should have learned something from his old man instead of worrying about outdoing him. McCain is nothing more than four more years of the same thing. Plus there is nothing straight talking about him that I can see. So let's try something new and go for the guy who grew up a lot like a lot of us did. By the way I am one of those supposedly less educated, older white folks.
Posted by: Jake | May 4, 2008 3:52:54 PM
I guess people do not remember how Bill Clinton's actions in the White House did nothing for Al Gore in 2000. I suppose most people do not remember how the Clintons were investigated from the time they announced their run in 92 until they left in 2001 and continue to be investigated in 2008. I guess the media does not think it is worth any coverage when one of Hillary's main campaign workers goes to jail for election fraud. Then there is White Water. Her votes supporting the war and her inflammatory remarks about Iran. Her affiliations with radicals that makes anything Obama has been associated with look like kindergarten stuff. I believe she has been everything from a Republican to a Communist or extreme radical supporter to a Democrat. She has run a poor campaign and much like her lame attempt to ram her version of health care down everyone's throat in 93 that was met with disaster I believe that is exactly how she will try and run her administration. She has all of these plans but has anyone bothered to ask Congress what they think. If it is anything like Congress's reaction to her gas holiday I do not expect her to get much support. This means to me that she will be a continuation of the same old politics with Hillary never getting any support from Republicans and probably not much from her own party. In fact her only successes will be much like Bill's were. Republican initiatives like Nafta and welfare reform that were not supported by his own party. This of course led to more jobs being shipped overseas and less or no money when it comes to us taking care of our own right here in this country. I do not think people should live off of the government. But when we got people hurting with high prices. When we got people dying from bridges collapsing. When we got graduation rates of just 25 % I think we need to seriously think about helping ourselves for a change instead of playing world cop. That is what we got the UN for. 41 used the UN very successfully. I think 43 should have learned something from his old man instead of worrying about outdoing him. McCain is nothing more than foir more years of the same thng.Plus there is nothing straight talking about him that I can see. So let's try something new and go for the guy who grew up a lot like a lot of us did.
Posted by: Jake | May 4, 2008 3:02:29 PM
JACKSMITH working class -
you Clintonians like your magical math.
Hillary went into PA with a 20-25pt lead over Obama and came out with a win of only 9 pts. This is your crushing victory over Obama? Interestingly enough, in typical Clinton spin, her campaign are saying if she only loses by 10pts in N Carolina, where Obama started with a 20pt lead, that this somehow will also be a victory for her. The same virtual scenario.... but each time its somehow cast as a win for Hillary.... Clintonian madness rides again!!
Posted by: Susa | May 4, 2008 1:48:46 PM
In response to JACKSMITH -
Like most Clintonians me thinks you mispeak on this one.
Hillary was favoured to win in PA by 20-25 points going in. In the end she won by 9pts. Obama was favoured by 20 pts going into N.Carolina, but the Clintonians are saying that if Hillary only loses by 9pts then she wins..... Explain the logic to me ? According to the Clintonians, but are wins for Hillary. And her 9 point victory, down from her original 20-25pt lead in PA - is a crushing defeat?
Do you think people aren't seeing this?
Posted by: Susa | May 4, 2008 1:44:17 PM
Mellencamp hasn't even endorsed anyone and he is already being bad mouthed by the Clinton support group..... GET A LIFE.....
Posted by: Ron | May 4, 2008 10:14:02 AM
These are unofficial results until the other 500 votes are counted.
Posted by: s.b. | May 4, 2008 8:10:33 AM
DEBATE! DEBATE!! DEBATE!!!
It's time for everyone to face the truth. Barack Obama has no real chance of winning the national election in November at this time. His crushing defeat in Pennsylvania makes that fact crystal clear. His best, and only real chance of winning in November is on a ticket with Hillary Clinton as her VP.
Hillary Clinton seemed almost somber at her Pennsylvania victory speech. As if part of her was hoping Obama could have proved he had some chance of winning against the republican attack machine, and their unlimited money, and resources.
But it is absolutely essential that the democrats take back the Whitehouse in November. America, and the American people are in a very desperate condition now. And the whole World has been doing all that they can to help keep us propped up.
Hillary Clinton say's that the heat, and decisions in the Whitehouse are much tougher than the ones on the campaign trail. But I think Mr. Obama faces a test of whether he has what it takes to be a commander and chief by facing the difficult facts, and the truth before him. And by doing what is best for the American people by dropping out of the race, and offering his whole hearted assistance to Hillary Clinton to help her take back the Whitehouse for the American people, and the World.
Mr. Obama is a great speaker. And I am confident he can explain to the American people the need, and wisdom of such a personal sacrifice for them. It should be clear to everyone by now that Hillary Clinton is fighting her heart out for the American people. She has known for a long time that Mr. Obama can not win this November. You have to remember that the Clinton's have won the Whitehouse twice before. They know what it takes.
If Mr. Obama fails his test of commander and chief we can only hope that Hillary Clinton can continue her heroic fight for the American people. And that she prevails. She will need all the continual support and help we can give her. She may fight like a superhuman. But she is only human.
Sen. Hillary Clinton: "You know, more people have now voted for me than have voted for my opponent. In fact, I now have more votes than anybody has ever had in a primary contest for a nomination. And it's also clear that we've got nine more important contests to go."
Sincerely
Jacksmith... Working Class :-)
Posted by: jacksmith | May 4, 2008 5:37:35 AM
everyone, thank god for freedom...let it ring. john mellancap is torn between the two...he is a small town man from indiana, wow, i am a small town girl from iowa...go hillary
Posted by: carlasue | May 4, 2008 5:07:17 AM
Mellencamp is drawn to both candidates, because he is very much like them – a very rich, very successful capitalist who dons a working man’s shirt to lecture us about the evils of capitalism.
Posted by: Jim - PRS | May 4, 2008 4:56:12 AM
hi everyone....go hillary..even tho she lost by what a whole 7 votes.....let's pay attention to what really matters...the GE....are you with me..
Posted by: carlasue | May 4, 2008 3:05:54 AM
It's so funny all this chatter over 7 votes and missing ballots. The irony of all this is I heard on CNN this morning that Guam is only allowed to vote in primary and CANNOT VOTE IN THE GENERAL....so what's the big deal? Really...none of their votes will matter in November. For what it's worth every news channel I watch (I watch all of them) said Guam was Obama's to win (considerably). Let's just let this rest and wait for Tuesday's results. Anything out of Guam is nothing except their Super D's and 2 went to Obama and 1 to Hillary today. The other 2 are undecided...so there you have it. Indiana will be a better barometer (NC historically votes REP in general) so let's wait for Tues.
Posted by: Debra, Los Angeles | May 4, 2008 2:45:36 AM
Onlooker:
Don't worry; the Obama-Wright break-up is naught but a political ploy tp gather the pity perk for Obama and to keep his name in the blogs.
Before the primaries are over, the two of them will be best buds again.
Posted by: questioner | May 4, 2008 2:12:54 AM
This is from Tom Friedman's op-ed in the NYTimes... I think Sen. Obama needs to go on the offensive about this whole "tough" and "patriotism" questioning that we keep hearing..yes, he is tough, and it's because he's the candidate most willing to tell the truth...
From the article:
"Much nonsense has been written about how Hillary Clinton is “toughening up” Barack Obama so he’ll be tough enough to withstand Republican attacks. Sorry, we don’t need a president who is tough enough to withstand the lies of his opponents. We need a president who is tough enough to tell the truth to the American people. Any one of the candidates can answer the Red Phone at 3 a.m. in the White House bedroom. I’m voting for the one who can talk straight to the American people on national TV — at 8 p.m. — from the White House East Room.
Who will tell the people? We are not who we think we are. We are living on borrowed time and borrowed dimes. We still have all the potential for greatness, but only if we get back to work on our country.
It is especially not trivial now, because millions of Americans are dying to be enlisted — enlisted to fix education, enlisted to research renewable energy, enlisted to repair our infrastructure, enlisted to help others. Look at the kids lining up to join Teach for America. They want our country to matter again. They want it to be about building wealth and dignity — big profits and big purposes. When we just do one, we are less than the sum of our parts. When we do both, said Shriver, “no one can touch us." "
Posted by: Tough...Yes! | May 4, 2008 2:06:53 AM
if anyone is looking for answers
about what's happening in our caucuses....
look no further.
This is compliments of Mark.
Posted by: questioner | May 4, 2008 2:04:13 AM
The Commander Guy: You're right! It is a delegate race. It's amazing that the media haven't cottoned on to that simple fact yet. I mean, they're still reporting Texas as a win for Hillary Clinton, even though Barack Obama won more delegates from the state. Same with Nevada.
But if people really understood that this was a delegate race, they couldn't keep up the line that this is still a "close" race. Clinton has lost the delegate race, because there's no way she's going to get 72% or more of the vote in each of the subsequent primaries, plus 2/3 of the remaining superdelegates. And without that, she won't be able to overtake Obama in the delegate count. It's not going to happen, but it doesn't matter for the media narrative - because so few people understand your point.
Posted by: libelian | May 4, 2008 1:50:21 AM
My question is, if Guam folks are all US citizens, why cant they vote in the first place?
You mean there are US citizens out there who have no right to vote?
Posted by: tomdavie | May 4, 2008 1:35:31 AM
The Obama bus is on it's way to Guamt to stop the recount. Hold it, they just announced there are uh technical problems in getting there - so they're sending John Bolton instead.
Posted by: Carlotta | May 4, 2008 1:34:41 AM
American9,
We've got to expose her. Pls forward the info. to anyone you know.
Posted by: Owen | May 4, 2008 1:15:10 AM
Owen,
I will get the case number soon. But the link below brings out names that should lead you to the reality of this case.
Posted by: American9 | May 4, 2008 12:54:51 AM
Where is Rezko case now?
Posted by: blue Irish | May 4, 2008 12:44:05 AM
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