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Byrd Joins the Flock
May 19, 2008 2:15 PM
Sen. Robert Byrd, D-WV, from Ku Klux Klan Kleagle to endorser of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois., in just 66 short years.
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this will be remembered as the year in which our our election was bought by the highest bidder.
Posted by: eyes open | May 20, 2008 10:33:47 AM
BO would not be in this without the proportional delegates and T-Ball "everyone gets a trophy" stupid democratic system. Trouble is, that's now how the general election works. It's winner take all in the states. The primaries should mirror the general, otherwise you end up with nominees that cannot win in the general election. That's what is going to happen this time. BO will lose a bunch of big populous states that we need to win, and it will be lights out. How sad.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 20, 2008 10:07:42 AM
I wonder if his constituents in WV are going to like that. His state voted for Hillary by 41 points. If I were a senator or a congressman, I would vote based on how my constituents did. After all, they are supposed to be representing the VOTERs.
Posted by: A reader in ga | May 20, 2008 9:59:26 AM
john, i agree with you,
to me when you listen to these pundits,
and dem.people. it seems they have a secret that they are not sharing with the american people
they must realize now they went about this primary season all wrong-if they had been fair maybe they would not be in this position.
all of them are saying the dem. party will come together,
I don't see how they can be seeing that
happen.
i have been a democrat all of my life,
and so has my family. i will not support barack obama if he is the dem party nominee.
1st-i do not think he is the better candidate-sen. clinton is
2nd-i know what the issues are-and sen. clinton i believe will be the better to bring about the real change we need.
3rd-i do not like the unfairness of how the dem bigwigs and the media being so biased toward sen. clinton. telling her to get out.
4th-and i just see the superdelegates stealing this election for obama.
i thought the superdelegates are to follow their conscience-but then donna b. and people like her started saying the superdelegates should vote with their state-so which is it?-because kennedy,kerry,richardson,and byrd have not voted with their state.
I considered myself a memeber of the dem. party-the bigwigs in the dem. party have shown me i do not belong with them.
i will not vote for obama.
and as far as the michelle obama being off limits-it was michelle who said she could just scratch bill clintons eyes out.
and it is obama himself who has tried to say the years of bill clinton in the white house-were not good years for the economy. I am middle class and I KNOW the clinton years in the white house were good for my household.
if obama does not see the clinton economy years as good for the country.
what kind of economy is he talking about bringing? with obama and the people behind him-i guess we should have more welfare rolls and people on foodstamps.
i was a lifelong democrat-if obama gets the nomination-
i will not be a democrat anymore.
(already reading and researching what black republicans see in that party)
Posted by: jgaw | May 20, 2008 8:31:03 AM
Not in the history of election that you may find candidates like Clintons working so hard. It is impossible without a sense of mission to turn the country around. They did it before. They can do it again.
The party pundits has been coming out saying and acting against the wills of the voter. It is obviously that the party is against the people. The hope is that the Clintons are still fighting hard for us.
Such tenacity is touching. BO just slacks , ducks, and floats on the effort of the party.
We need to do somethng about this disgusting party wnd right their wrongs.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 20, 2008 6:38:08 AM
Not only did Byrd save HRC much grief by endorsing Obama, he robbed the media and Obama supporters of many days of pontification and feigned outrage.
They would have been all over Byrd and HRC as to racist elements of such an endorsement.
The first response from all would have been: Well what did you expect?
Thanks Sen. Byrd, you shut them all up before they could even get out the first
race laden quips.
Posted by: Mike | May 20, 2008 6:29:18 AM
Haim Saban, the billionaire entertainment magnate and longtime Clinton supporter, denied the allegation. But four independent sources said that just before the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, Saban called YDA President David Hardt and offered what was perceived as a lucrative proposal: $1 million would be made available for the group if Hardt and the organization's other uncommitted superdelegate backed Clinton.
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 11:31:23 PM
I think Howard Dean has damaged our party in ways we will feel for years. The party elite continue to endorse like the brothers and sisters in Michigan do not exist. I will certainly be registering independent. When our party elite gave up on the common man they lost my support.
Posted by: Jim | May 19, 2008 10:54:27 PM
ouchy,
no, because, with sen.clinton i am voting my interest. if you are middle class and a working person, and the only reason you didn't vote for her is because of her vote for the war and the bush,clinton thing-then you are not voting your interest either.
she is the better of the three candidates for this country, and that is just a fact.
sen. clinton is the fighter the middle class of america needs right now.
it is sen. clintons plans that will put this country back ont he right track
Posted by: jgaw | May 19, 2008 10:30:24 PM
I'm curious, don't any Clinton supporters worry about the dynastic element of her candidacy? The fact that Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton is maybe a little nepotistic? I'm really just wondering, because, besides her vote for the war, this is the main reason I oppose her candidacy.
Posted by: ouchy | May 19, 2008 9:52:12 PM
@jgaw - I think you are right. For whatever reason it was done, it was not for the purpose of this country. Goodnight...
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
(It ain't over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 19, 2008 9:40:47 PM
well said leelee07
i think the dem. party knows this,
but what else could we expect from that group of people.
nancy pelosi,with all of the hoopla with her winning her position, when i see her out i just think she is out for a photo op. no substance to her either.
i believe what they have done has been more for selfish reasons,
not as many would want us to believe about sen. clinton.
i do believe sen. clinton is working for every american. and that is why she is fighting so hard.
she knows if she does not win-the middle class will not have a chance.
goodnight
Posted by: jgaw | May 19, 2008 9:33:16 PM
The DNC has overplayed their hand in the matter of Clinton vs. Obama.
This Democratic Party is like Humpty Dumpty. No one can put it back together again.
When I vote for Hillary, it will be as an Independent. If not Hillary, then McCain.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
(It ain't over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 19, 2008 9:25:39 PM
the dem party as many of us have known it for most of our adult lives is over.
the bigwigs of the party, dean, pelosi,kerry,and co. read this one wrong.
and they have no one who will be able to unite this party.
time for a third party
the british have several parties we can also.
time for the moderate democratic party.
sen. clinton would have been the new fdr. and got this country back on the right track.
but now we will have president mccain
Posted by: jgaw | May 19, 2008 9:18:46 PM
Larry Sinclair met Sen Byrd in a closed door meeting and the endorsement happened the next day.
Posted by: Mary | May 19, 2008 9:10:00 PM
Will the real hard working Americans stand up!
Obama '08!
(Just like Byrd, we'll accept the true Dems back to "our party" when they've accepted the principles of the party.)
Posted by: Happy | May 19, 2008 8:42:59 PM
How can the Democrats even be represented by "unprofessional candidate" least for a President?
Democrats really are out of touch by
suggesting that OBAMA represents the views of America. He doesn't represent the views of hard working americans by calling them clinging to gun when they are "bitter". Now OBAMA dare to demean the WOMEN of this great country starting with that lady reporter by calling her SWEETIE?!! How much AROGANT THIS MAN OBAMA (A DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE)
would be? What OBAMA did in a work place is called Sexual Harassment. IS OBAMA trying to change the meaning of Sexual Harassment according to his terms? WHAT A JERK AND ARROGANT MAN..
I hope he is not the nominee so I can still vote for the democrats. If he is the nominee then I will vote for MCCAIN.
Posted by: James, Independent, KY | May 19, 2008 8:37:55 PM
you are correct len,
i am finished with the dem party.
i will vote in nov.
if sen. clinton' name is not on the ballot.
i will not vote for obama.
Posted by: jgaw | May 19, 2008 8:37:16 PM
It gets better on CNN. John King admits and the Democratic insiders admit that Hillary is stronger in the electoral math. She will win. Obama? They aren't sure. He has to turn an eroding constituency around but the constituency he needs appears growing only angrier at the Democratic Party and Barack Obama.
Meanwhile the delegate count is slipping away from Clinton as if the Dems have signed a mutual electoral suicide pact.
And McCain? Enjoying it. As he should. "Imagine the excitement of leaving the convention and still not knowing who the nominee is?"
However this nomination fight goes, the Democratic Party needs to throw Pelosi and Dean to the wolves as soon as possible. The party may make claims to uniting but it isn't going to happen this time. Overmanaging and blind ambition have cost us the one election we could not lose.
Posted by: len | May 19, 2008 8:23:33 PM
obama is on tv right now, making himself look like a fool again,
he is blaming fox for his loss in kentucky.
i guess he is trying to explain to his sf backers the money people why he is not winning.
I agree with juan williams-people are seeing through obama.
obama thinking is-if you don't support him it is someone elses fault, and there must be something wrong with you.
obama is weak-
i will be watching fdr tonight
and sen. clinton would be a modern day fdr.
obama will not be POTUS
and thanks to the person who gave us
wilk corbett.
also talked with the cynthia r. group today.
obama will not be POTUS
and i am glad michelle obama does not want sen. clinton to campaign for obama.
I don't want sen. clinton to campaign for him either.
Posted by: jgaw | May 19, 2008 8:23:28 PM
If the party lost this election, they will never get back on their feet in the next decade.
The sure win is the ticket:
Hillary - BO and not vice versa.
BO is in a horrible losing streak and other than Black votes, he is in a landslide only floated by the media.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 19, 2008 8:13:41 PM
The more revealing trend is the Democratic Party is splitting in a way it hasn't before. Yes, Clinton and Obama have created an unusual interest in the election, the process and the parties. Fans say this makes the process healthier and that might be so, but it may not be working as they think.
Many who have for years supported their party of choice like it was a weekend sports contest or because their family always supported the party or it once had a candidate they supported have done so sleep walking. Now they are awake. Now they are looking.
Now many don't like what they see. The same people who are resisting one candidate or another are also resisting their party leadership for reasons they feel justify that resistance.
Some party leaders are losing more than they know. Pelosi, Dean etc., have sided with the same candidate that Hamas is siding with. That may not work out very well for them. It certainly hasn't improved the party.
Posted by: len | May 19, 2008 8:06:35 PM
I find myself laughing, unfortunately, at Obama followers who are celebrating this nomination. There are a couple of terrible, glaring (and obvious) problems: first, superdelegates are tossing their votes his way because of the low Congressional numbers. These people are trying to protect themselves and they figure if they hitch themselves to this very temporary star, it will improve their numbers. The porblem with this is that Democrats are very slow. Slow to react, but quick to over-react. It's a non-thinking party. As a Democrat, it has been the most frustrating part about supporting the party. They're like teenagers. Second, and most important is the fact that while Obama claims to have a cross section of American voters, HE DOES NOT, and most important is that most Clinton supporters can guarantee he won't get our vote. For those of you who will say that we should vote for hi because he's Democrat. He's not a Democrat. He's Barak Obama. A political party in and unto himself and he has no allegiances to anything other than his own person need to control the world around him and shape public view. With all of Clinton's background and experience in Washington and everything she's done and gone through in the world, I'd rather have the peace of mind that I am supporting and will continue to support someone who is much less selfish and much more a person of the world.
Posted by: Julia | May 19, 2008 7:41:46 PM
75,000 to see Obama?
The high schools must have let out early.
Obama's core supporters.
Hillary or McCain/never Obama
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 19, 2008 7:40:47 PM
Hillary's new math:
Obama - Hillary supporters = Pres.McCain
Let the butt kissing begin.
Hillary or McCain(a true patriot)
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 19, 2008 7:36:48 PM
I would also like to see this go all the way to the convention. For once, it would be nice to keep it real and have an honest dialogue but the "Leaders" in this party don't have the guts to wait and really see who is best suited to win in November. That is why you see them coming out for Barack even as she whooped him in West Virginia. If it wasn't so serious it would be comical!
Also, IMO, there is an ideological battle going on as to the direction of the party. Many want to take it farther to the left. But most Americans live and vote in the center. I believe it is a mistake to go this direction, as we will suffer the consequences in a GE. Learn a lesson from the Republicans, they took the party to the far right and look where they find themselves now? Wake up America, Hillary Clinton is best suited to win in the GE!
Posted by: Nancy | May 19, 2008 7:31:28 PM
Never Surrender,
I am with you. Take it to the convention, Hillary!!! Hillary Clinton is ahead in the states that matter in terms of the Electoral College. Her votes translate to many more electoral votes than Obama.
Posted by: countallthevotes | May 19, 2008 7:18:49 PM
jgaw,
Obama needs the Clinton supporters badly. He is nowhere without us, that is why.
I just noticed a new Supreme Court of New Hampshire opinion came down today. The ruling was that it was illegal for 17-years olds in that state to have voted in the primaries. It violated the NH Consitution which mandates 18 as the age.
I wonder how many 17-year olds voted for Obama. I think a lot. LOL
Posted by: countallthevotes | May 19, 2008 7:15:58 PM
Hillary Clinton is the best and strongest candidate for President. Senator Clinton has the best education, health care, and economic plans. She will fight for us and never give up. Hillary will be able to win the electoral votes to be elected as President. I will support Hillary all the way to the convention.
Posted by: NeverSurrender | May 19, 2008 7:15:10 PM
dennis,
when asked if she would campaign for sen. clinton, michelle obama answered
"i am going to have to think long and hard about that."
michelle obama does not want sen. clinton around.
why should sen.clinton be around?
no matter what she has said.
why would the obama' want sen. clinton around?
I keep asking obama supporters this question, and i never get an answer
why would the obama' want sen.clinton campaigning for them?
Posted by: jgaw | May 19, 2008 6:57:43 PM
Nancy said: Nat Turner- You are seriously naive if you think people are done with the Clinton's. Senator Obama needs to have the support of the Hillary voters if he has any hope of winning the general election. And if she wants the VP position,she will get it. He needs her expertise, as he is so inexperienced. I live in the suburban Phila. area and many women here are furious at the DNC and the party leaders. Make no mistake, educated, hard working women like myself will walk away from this candidacy unless Hillary has a significant role in the administration.
Why are all of you women so furious all over the country at the DNC? How has Hillary been wronged by them? Also how is Hillary so more experienced than Obama? All she has been is a Senator just like Obama. She has run NOTHING!!!! She has been in Washington longer than he has , which by the way is nothing to brag about. He needs her expertise? WHAT!!!!
If you are so educated make an educated vote and listen to your precious Hillary:
"Anybody who has ever voted for me or voted for Barack has much more in common in terms of what we want to see happen in our country and in the world with the other than they do with John McCain," Clinton said on CNN's "The Situation Room."
"I'm going to work my heart out for whoever our nominee is. Obviously, I'm still hoping to be that nominee, but I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that anyone who supported me ... understands what a grave error it would be not to vote for Sen. Obama."
I would have voted for Hillary if she had been the nominee, but you Hillary supporters who refuse to vote for him because you are so mad Hillary didn't win are absolutely amazing. Some of you all are worse than children.
Posted by: Dennis in Orlando, FL | May 19, 2008 6:52:28 PM
nancy i agree with you.except
obama needs sen. clinton and her supporters
sen. clinton does not need him at all.
he will not win in 08
and she will win in 12.
yes, he needs her expertise,
but she does not need him.
Posted by: jgaw | May 19, 2008 6:51:08 PM
Isn't this a case of going against the will of the people of West Virginia? Shouldn't Obama be concerned?
Posted by: matt | May 19, 2008 4:25:16 PM
_________________
Not at all!
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 6:44:37 PM
Nat Turner- You are seriously naive if you think people are done with the Clinton's. Senator Obama needs to have the support of the Hillary voters if he has any hope of winning the general election. And if she wants the VP position,she will get it. He needs her expertise, as he is so inexperienced. I live in the suburban Phila. area and many women here are furious at the DNC and the party leaders. Make no mistake, educated, hard working women like myself will walk away from this candidacy unless Hillary has a significant role in the administration.
Posted by: Nancy | May 19, 2008 6:43:08 PM
Him and his big crowds. He pays people to come see him just like he pays people for their votes. He calls people sweetie, honee, cutie, he asks women if he kisses them will they vote for him then. My Gosh the man has no class at all. How can you even think of him being the President? Wake Up America.
Posted by: Fae | May 19, 2008 6:37:10 PM
Please go to this site and read all of the site. The truth is coming out. The media will have to finally cough up the story. Obama is not who you think he is.
Posted by: Fae | May 19, 2008 6:35:15 PM
The larger crowds BHO draws, the greater loss he will sustain.
Posted by: fat cat | May 19, 2008 6:30:15 PM
rhbate said:
"It is clear that the uneducated, hard working Americans - white Americans - vote for me overwhelmingly. They are my core base."
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"It is clear that all thinking Americans of all races and colors - thoughtful Americans -vote for me overwhelmingly. They are my core base."
TAKE YOUR PICK!
I'll take the second one rhbate
Posted by: Dennis in Orlando, FL | May 19, 2008 6:30:12 PM
"It is clear that the uneducated, hard working Americans - white Americans - vote for me overwhelmingly. They are my core base."
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"It is clear that all thinking Americans of all races and colors - thoughtful Americans -vote for me overwhelmingly. They are my core base."
TAKE YOUR PICK!
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 6:07:50 PM
I think they are wrong that's suppose to be him.
He is desperate to get white voters.
Posted by: catleya | May 19, 2008 5:49:57
________________
I guess you didn't see that crowd of 75,000 Obama supporters in Oregon. Better wake up, the black population of Oregon is only 6% black. Those 75,000 supporters were all black, ya think?
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 6:06:11 PM
I think they are wrong that's suppose to be him.
He is desperate to get white voters.
Posted by: catleya | May 19, 2008 5:49:57
________________
I guess you didn't see that crown of 75,000 Obama supporters in Oregon. Better wake up, the black population of Oregon is only 6% black. Those 75,000 supporters were all black, ya think?
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 6:05:08 PM
You can get 75,000 people in one place in Oregon by lighting a joint on the same day the wind is blowing. "Too Much, The Magic Bus!" So Obama flipped a Byrd. He should have gotten David Crosby. That at least would be entertaining.
1. Obama's State count doesn't reflect the electoral count. He is actually losing to Clinton and would lose to McCain when you examine the electoral math.
2. Hillary Clinton is ahead in the popular vote. That lead will get bigger tomorrow.
3. Obama's core constituency has been weakening since Ohio and the erosion increased since West Virginia. The defection of the Reagan Democrats and a not inconsiderable number of women voters weakens him further.
4. Obama is picking up delegates with promises of cash and positions. No one who commits has to vote the same way twice except the popular vote. The delegates know that on a second vote at the convention, they are free to vote anyway they like. That means they can take money and play again if it doesn't go his way. Alice Palmer will enjoy this wherever she is.
5. Obama continues to show weak character and bad judgment in the press. Michelle is fair game while she campaigns for him. Obama supporters told Chelsea to toughen up. I suggest you forward that to BO. A man making hollow threats is not about to bargain with credibly with Hamas.
BTW: JFK didn't win the Cuban Missile Crisis. Khrushchev used back channels to tell him he was ready to bargain. JFK bargained away the obsolete Redstones stationed in Turkey plus signed a pledge never to invade Cuba. It was a draw in private made to look like a win for JFK in public because the private deals would not become public for another decade. It cost N.K. his position and he was forced into exile, but it stopped the madness he started by agreeing to send the ICBMs to Cuba. Because of the tactical nukes already in position, an invasion would have been a bloodbath and most of Florida would be a nuclear ashpile today.
Posted by: len | May 19, 2008 6:02:33 PM
I remember a story of a young German.
Who was new and has speeches that moved people. He charmed people, got them to follow him blindly.
Obama is exactly like him. He does everything exactly the same.
The story had a very horrifying ending.
So history does repeat itself. Obama will lead you to places the sane would never go.
Posted by: seah | May 19, 2008 6:02:22 PM
"It is clear that the uneducated, hard working Americans - white Americans - vote for me overwhelmingly. They are my core base."
--------------------
"It is clear that all thinking Americans of all races and colors - thoughtful Americans -vote for me overwhelmingly. They are my core base."
TAKE YOUR PICK!
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 6:00:55 PM
"We are the party of the people, the coal miner, the waitress, the truck driver. We don''t need any elitists in our party. Therefore I am going to loan my campaign another 6.4 million in addition to the 5 million I've already lent them. After all, this is the party of the working man and woman"
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 5:54:22 PM
Where is the DNC,
They always say: Hillary would do anything to get elected.
I think they are wrong that's suppose to be him.
He is desperate to get white voters.
Posted by: catleya | May 19, 2008 5:49:57 PM
This is a great endorsement. Now if we can just get someone from Kentucky.
Posted by: pt | May 19, 2008 5:39:51 PM
It always amazes me that every time someone endorses Obama, there is something terribly wrong with that "someone". What is about endorsements that you Hillary fans don't like? Pick a Democrat--Edwards, Kennedy, now Byrd, today Warren Buffet, half of Bill Clinton's cabinet. They endorsed Obama for a reason. You might not like all Democrats, but if you're a Democrat, you've got to like some of them. Think about why they've chosen the candidate--don't just keep repeating endless and cynical slogans about Obama and the endorsers. There are serious reasons why we need to come together in 2008 and keep Bush-Light out of the White House!
Posted by: perumal11 | May 19, 2008 5:32:16 PM
I think we can now safely assume that Bill Clinton can be put into the "loser" catagory again. The democratic party that the Clinton's ran roughshod over is now getting its revenge.
Want to argue? What relavance has he showed to his wife's campaign in the last 30 days.
Posted by: Alex, from Texas | May 19, 2008 5:18:55 PM
Take this to the bank ... superdelegates.
Yogi Berra, meet the Clintons. "It ain't over till it's over" neatly defines their current philosophy on the presidential race. Forget the brilliant Berra ambiguity of the word "over." How about "it"? What is the game they're now playing? The math is clear: Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee for president unless he's caught on tape taking cash from Tony Rezko or vacationing in Hawaii with Louis Farrakhan. But the only thing dependable about the Clintons is that they never quit. Hillary has more than enough delegates to hassle Obama with the threat that she'll go all the way to the Denver convention or otherwise jeopardize party unity if he doesn't seat Florida and Michigan exactly as she wants. And she may rally her millions of supporters to demand that Obama offer her the No. 2 slot. Don't put it past her.
Before getting to Hillary's game, let me introduce a new ace in the hole for Obama. For all the talk of numbers, there's one that will be most important for superdelegates: 1.5 million. That reflects the 1.5 million names of donors that the Obama campaign has on file. Because no contribution below $200 is publicly reported, the vast majority of those names are in Obama's exclusive possession, to be shared as he wishes. As Graham Richard, the longtime mayor of Fort Wayne, Ind., explained it to me last week, it's all about the Benjamins. Local officials (that's who most superdelegates are) need the tens of thousands of Democratic donors on that list who come from their states. Their re-election depends on successful fund-raising. No Obama at the top of the ticket, no list. No list, and you may be back selling insurance after November.
Another hidden factor pushing superdelegates away from Hillary is "Florigan" or "Michida"—or whatever we should call these scofflaw states that moved up their primaries in defiance of party rules. Out of desperation, Hillary is putting all her chips on the injustice done to Floridians and Michiganders, even though she said early in the process that their votes "shouldn't count." Never mind the hypocrisy here. Never mind that Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe was the one who first insisted the rules be enforced. (When Michigan Sen. Carl Levin wanted to move up that state's primary in 2004, McAuliffe, then party chairman, screamed at him: "If I allow you to do that, the whole system collapses! The rules are the rules." This is from McAuliffe's own memoirs.) The problem for Hillary is that party officials in the other 48 states don't give a rat's patootie about seating Florida and Michigan. In fact, they're angry at those states for jumping the line, then whining about it. The whole imbroglio, says Simon Rosenberg of the New Democrat Network, has been "instrumental" in driving superdelegates to Obama.
Posted by: LL Barra | May 19, 2008 5:12:40 PM
Dear Superdelegate,
Back a winner.
Let’s take back the White House!
* Republicans have won 7 of the last 10 Presidential elections.
* Bill Clinton (1993-2001) is the only Democrat to win reelection since FDR (1932-1944)
* Republicans are 0 and 7 against the Clintons. (1982-present)
Please support Hillary Clinton for President.
McGovern - Loser
Kennedy - Loser
Carter - 2nd term Loser
Kerry - Loser
Dean - Loser
Gore? Endorsing tomorrow night or Wednedsay? - Loser (although he really won and the DNC is really making the Republicans look great by repeating their FL 2000 performance)!
Way to go DNC - Donna Brazile, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and all the superbought superdelegates, just ignore those old voters you don't need anymore! We'll be voting for anyone but Obama!
Posted by: calli | May 19, 2008 5:10:27 PM
lets see maybe Gore in Iowa who cares he can get the queen just shows who they care for running out and picking our nominee why the heck go thru this show for nothing they had him picked from the get go it should show all why we need term limits so nobody has this much power it is bs the democratic party is any thing but fair and honest slobs all of them .not getting my vote.
Posted by: Bishop | May 19, 2008 5:01:18 PM
LATEST POLITICAL NEWS ITEM
It was just reported that Clinton has removed herself from the presidential race after her campaign officials reached an agreement with officials of Obama‘s campaign.. Pursuant to the agreement, Obama and Hillary will conduct joint fund raisers in order to help retire Hillary’s campaign debt. Current law prohibits Obama from making direct donations from his own campaign coffers on the theory that those donors made their donations to be used to promote the election of Obama, not Ms. Clinton. When Hillary was first informed of the agreement, she peed in her latest pair of pantsuits. No problem, she said, they were her favorite gold color pantsuit.
Posted by: rhbate | May 19, 2008 4:39:10 PM
He man women haters used Obama to make sure Hillary did not get in and sad to say like they really care about us it is kind of like being in the arena we are thier entertainment can't you see them watching and laughing thier #$# off I can.I have no respect left for the democratic party
Posted by: Bishop | May 19, 2008 4:33:26 PM
Say, why doesn't Mrs. Clinton ask Mr. Obama for some delegates--and I'm sure he'd oblige her, being the gentleman he is--instead of calling him out in West Virginia and Kentucky just to embarrass and diminish the man in front of America and the world, thereby unduly upping the chances of the Republicans in the upcoming elections?
Posted by: TK | May 19, 2008 4:27:35 PM
McCain is dead wrong on Iran. President Reagan is rolling in his grave right now. He would have never thought about bombing the Soviet Union. Obama's approach to foreign policy is the same as Reagan's -- strength through diplomacy, cooperation, and DEFENSE, not offense. The voters in American know this is the right choice for peace, and that is why Obama is our choice.
Posted by: Eric | May 19, 2008 4:27:15 PM
The only reason Obama is getting the delegates is because if you noticed, the congress approval ratings are lower than Bush. They believe once there is a Democratic President, it doesn't matter who it is, they'll be able to push through most of their agenda. No more vetos. Since Obama is winning in delegates, he will be the one. The only flaw is they will have to count on ALL the democratic voters, women, African-American, hispanics, and "swing" voters to vote for Obama. This will be impossible. This is the worst election year I can remember. No unity no matter how hard they try. This is another Pelosi-Reid-Dean idea.
Posted by: Lois, California | May 19, 2008 4:26:01 PM
Isn't this a case of going against the will of the people of West Virginia? Shouldn't Obama be concerned?
Posted by: matt | May 19, 2008 4:25:16 PM
spock
Libya gave up its WMD's out of fear ?
Your nuts Blair (PM UK) was working with Libya for years to get them out of sanctions in exchange UK and US got control of Libyas oil fields. Nothing to do with Iraq!
spock=crazy
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 4:21:23 PM
$20 a gallon gas!
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 4:15:46 PM
spock, Obama is not going to let them get a bomb Iran is a country your argument is nuts. If talk fails we have a stick and know were to aim it!
Obam wins this argument McCains argument is dumb!
Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran= Crazy
Why have a state department if you dont use it ?
Why not talk first ?
War with iran means $20 gas!
I choose Obama !
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 4:13:20 PM
Just for the record, plenty of men favor Hilary. If you want to characterize us as "whiney", then you just prove the sexist attitude of the Obama campaign.
Posted by: druggstohr | May 19, 2008 4:11:23 PM
It's clear that all the Obama sheeple got their talking points about the Byrd endorsement.
You're truly delusional if you think working class voters in upcoming primary states or in the general election will be persuaded by Byrd who FAILED to endorse when it might have mattered.
What you won't admit though is that he wouldn't have done it prior to the primary because he didn't want a repeat of the TED KENNEDY syndrome.
You know, the TED KENNEDY SYNDROME, where a senior political figure endorses Obama - and voters in that state deal Obama a RESOUNDING DEFEAT!!!
Posted by: s. valenti | May 19, 2008 4:09:20 PM
HILLARY LOST, THE END, DONE, BYE BYE..
AS HILLARY THROWS ANOTHER TEMPER TANTRUM AND KICK'S HER HUSBAND BUBBA..
THIS IS YOUR FAULT..
YOU SLEPT WITH MONICA AND I DODGED SNIPER FIRE FOR YOU....
LMAO!!
Posted by: NATIVEEYESAREWATCHING | May 19, 2008 4:07:44 PM
Obama is showing naiveness again by saying that Iran is not as dangerous as the Soviets, That is flawed on so many levels it is scary.
1 - The Soviets did not want to commit suicide. (MAD)
2 - The Soviets did not think they get 72 virgins
3 - Iran will use a nuclear bomb, because it is in their leaders view to show the 2nd Imam
Now if Obama is right why would we talk with Iran then if we have nothing to fear from them. Talking with them will show a sign of weakness that they will use as propaganda.
Sad that someone with no clue of the world is this close to being President!!
Peace through Strength is the ONLY way.
Interesting thing the press does not report, when we first went into Iraq, Iran suspended all work on their Nuclear ambitions out of fear, Libya gave up its WMD's out of fear. But then the Anti-America 60's throwbacks like Obama, Reid, Pelosi and other libs started screaming our troops are murderers and we lost and we should not of gone in, so Iran used that propaganda to start building again and Libya is upset they gave up their WMD's.
So if the Iranians get a nuclear bomb and use it, it is already Obama's fault!!
Posted by: spock | May 19, 2008 4:07:08 PM
Nat Turner: Hate to inform you , Sweetie", but those whiney women voters will be the swing voters whom will determine the next president. And seeing that 57% of women voters in each state are voting for Hillary, it just looked like your "Anointed One" just lost the election.
No tears, Nat, he can run in another 4 years, when he grows up!!!!
Posted by: mary | May 19, 2008 4:05:05 PM
Well isn't this rich!! Yet another Democratic big-wig who is willing to go against the will of the voters in his state and jump on this delusional bandwagon. These politicians have no shame. They back the less experienced political candidate, tell Hillary to get out of the race and then the Obama political pundits say on national TV last night that the Obama campaign doesn't want her on the ticket b/c she is considered "radioactive" and yet they possibly would consider a Clinton surrogate. I never thought I'd see the day when this party had lost all decency. For me, this is the last straw. When is everyone going to realize that the Democratic party "leaders" have completely alienated a huge voting block in the party and that women have other options than to stick around and be treated so disrespectfully. God help this country.
Posted by: Nancy | May 19, 2008 4:03:24 PM
Where's the DNC
Obama has had ton of endorsement all week I dont get why you think this is a plot?
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 4:03:03 PM
We can argue this all day, all week, all month... whatever. The truth is that this election is being steered by the DNC, with help from most of the news media. The Democratic High Command will determine our next President; our votes don't matter (just ask the citizens of Florida and Michigan!). We can jawbone this until the cows come home, except they've already been sent to the slaughterhouse.
Posted by: Rhys | May 19, 2008 4:00:16 PM
Shows just how out of whack the Democratic Party is these days.
W. Virginians vote overwhelmingly for Clinton but the DNC or Obama prey on a frail, elderly man in failing health to support a loser.
Clinton supporters won't be fooled by this ridiculous endorsement being pulled out of the hat the day before Kentucky votes.
Obama and that faction of the DNC that is determined at all costs to hand him the nomination should be embarassed. Do they really think that Kentucky voters care what Byrd thinks?
Posted by: Where's the DNC | May 19, 2008 3:58:58 PM
DID MCBUSH HAVE TO FIRE HIM TOO?
Posted by: DAVID NH | May 19, 2008 3:56:50 PM
Mary...
You're correct, of course, but the twin Star Chambers of the Democratic and Republican parties will crush any attempt at forming a viable third party. If America were to vote for "common sense", a Libertarian would have been elected years ago (except they have a hard time finding a viable candidate).
It would take a LOT of money to get a third party off and running at this late stage, and it wouldn't stand a chance. You sound intelligent, Mary... you recognize that a "centerline" movement would HELP America, but too many people want some kind of "revenge" against what Bush has done. So, these people are ready to pull us back from that cliff on the right and shove us off the cliff on the left.
Posted by: Rhys | May 19, 2008 3:56:10 PM
Hillary1st,McCain2nd
IS REALLY JUST A MCCAIN SUPPORTER HERE TO DEVIDE THE DEMOCRATS !!!
UNITED IN SHARED BELIEFS REJECT THE DIVISION !
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 3:54:39 PM
He was pressured by Dean and his band of idiots, to try to get the white working class to vote for Obama. Not me Dean, I'm not biting. Go Hillary or McCain.
Posted by: KittyCat | May 19, 2008 3:53:41 PM
The way the democratic party leaders have managed this election is a joke. Let's face it, they are scared *****less of the Clintons - two smart, savvy people that know the ins and outs better than anybody. Why wouldn't they want sweet, green Obama, somebody they can "mold." Heck, the Republicans proved that very theory with Georgie. If you don't think the "special interests" will want their favors returned if Obama wins, you're nuts. So much for the "new" politics. Like that old song by the O'Jays "Backstabbers", the democratic party has lost me, I feel no loyalty to it whatsoever.Besides what has it accomplished in recent years? Nada. All Obama had to do was sit tight, run as VP and all would have been fine. He'd have gained invaluable experience and a free ride to presidency. Instead enter Oprah et al and boom. Honestly, I'm too old to go to Iraq, don't make enough to care about tax brackets and after 8 years of Bush I'm still breathing so how bad could it be with McCain? Bye bye democrats, hello McCain. After watching Bush's smug smirks for 8 years, the thought of seeing the same in Obama, Oprah, etc. is just too much.
Posted by: druggstohr | May 19, 2008 3:52:06 PM
If it was winniner takes all obama would have won already by quite some see cnn !
Winner takes all Obama has won 32 Contests to Clintons 17
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 3:51:06 PM