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Clinton Attacks Obama on Guns
May 04, 2008 4:13 PM
Her name may be "synonymous with gun control," as an NRA official recently told me, but Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, is attacking Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, on guns in a new mailer being sent to Hoosiers.
Check it out HERE.
On the front of the mailer: "Where does Barack Obama really stand on guns?"
On the back: "Depends on who Barack Obama is talking to.
"First, Barack Obama told a group in Chicago he favored a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns (IVI-IPO Candidate Questionnaire).
"Then, Barack Obama told people in Idaho he was for the 2nd Amendment, in order to get their votes (AP, 2/2/08).
"And just this month, Barack Obama accused people in rural places and small towns of being "bitter" people who "cling to guns" (Huffington Post, 411/08).
"What does Barack Obama really believe?"
- jpt
UPDATE: Our friend Ben Smith at Politico has some hilarious new details about the nonexistent German rifle used in the mailer.
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Obama isn't pandering...anyone who has ever lived in a big city, especially one as violent as Chicago, can have a difference of an opinion regarding gun control dependent upon the locale. Duh!
OBAMA/WEBB '08 & '12
Posted by: Roxie | May 4, 2008 6:44:10 PM
Clinton does not care about the party only her own vanity i hope she wins the nomination loses the general by a land slide mccain keeps up bush's disastrous policies and maybe we will get more options.
Posted by: tired | May 4, 2008 6:41:39 PM
As americans we have many rights and one of them is to own a firearm, this will not change anytime soon. I grew up handling firearms my family were avid hunters, although I didn't really embrace hunting. What ever people think of the NRA they taught me how to safely and properly handle firearms along with my father. I am very glad I have the knowledge even though I do not own a gun today as an adult. I think taking the NRA firearm courses should reguired when anyone,..anyone wants to purchase any type of gun in this country. The NRA is a powerfull lobby, but I think they should help to make people become more responsible with there firearms.
Posted by: Jim | May 4, 2008 6:37:51 PM
Obama is pandering again. He is that kind of politician.
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 4, 2008 6:29:30 PM
well, it is according to who is asking obama,
and if you press him for specifics -
he'll make a speech about it.
I don't mean to be sarcastic
but-he told us a few years ago he was not ready to be president.
he should have stayed with that
if he wins my fear is
before it is all over with
we will all wish he had
Posted by: jgaw | May 4, 2008 6:27:44 PM
N.B., the Obama gun history I posted from the Chicago Defender, 1999, used to be on Obama for President website. It was scrubbed from his site in Dec. or Jan.!
Posted by: countallthevotes | May 4, 2008 6:21:23 PM
"What does Barack Obama really believe?"
Exactly.
Posted by: Leslie | May 4, 2008 6:20:29 PM
I hate guns, wouldn't have one if you paid me. But you can't win if you openly oppose them, the NRA is too powerful.
Posted by: Toad | May 4, 2008 6:07:51 PM
now watch and see, now that the nation has had a chance to see this, (jake, the whole nation does read your blog,right?)
obama will not be talking specifics to tell us where he stands on guns,
what he is going to do is attack sen. clinton on what she has said.
nothing original comes from obama.
if obama gets into the white house
he and his handlers will not have sen. clintons brain to work from-where will this country be? and where will we be headed? john kerry,dean,bradley as advisors? heaven help us.
did anyone see the picture of ayers jumping up and down on the flag?
this was 2003-not when obama was 8.
I am going to refuse to believe anyone would hate sen. clinton so much that they would rather turn our country over to an inexperienced unknown.
maybe obama would be a good president in 2012-after sen. clinton has cleared up some of the problems we have in this country.
It will be easier for her to do
than obama.
Posted by: jgaw | May 4, 2008 5:59:43 PM
Jackt51,
As I understand it you are also a veteran of the past failed Kerry campaign as well. It seems like you would have learned your lesson then not to place your bets on someone that is viewed as aloof, elite, and a bit too far left. I actually think Obama is not a bad guy now, though, since he has denounce Wright, and I'm willing to give him a chance on the VP ticket. By the way, you and Thinking are about the last ones standing facing the final Hillary tsunami. It's getting fun, don't you think.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 4, 2008 5:59:15 PM
jgaw,
Amen! What an eloquent posting calling it as it is. The unfortunate truth is our people aren't ready for prime time. To blindly throw their support to an inexperienced, untested and unknown entity, just because he's black, exposes our political ignorance and reverse racist attitudes. BOTH Clintons have done a LOT for Black people, and I guess it just proves the theory that no good deed goes unpunished! I sure hope our people wake up and see the only one "pandering for votes" is Obama. He feels "entitled" to the Black vote, although not doing anything to EARN it. His pandering for White approval puts Blacks on the back burner because we're such a sure thing! I DON'T think so!!!
GO HILLARY!!!
Posted by: Hill Will | May 4, 2008 5:58:06 PM
Obama and Gun Control, Blast from the Past:
His record isn't likely to win back the rural "pro-gun" voters who've fled to the Republicans in recent years, likely costing Gore the election in 2000. From the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999:
Sweeping federal gun control legislation proposed by Sen. Barack Obama (D-13th) would increase the penalties on gun runners who are flooding Chicago's streets with illegal weapons.
At an anti-gun rally held at the Park Manor Christian Church, 600 E. 73rd St., headed by the Rev. James Demus, Obama also said he's backing a resolution being introduced into the City Council by Alds. Toni Preckwinkle (4th), Ted Thomas (15th), Leslie Hairston (5th) to call for a "shot-free" millennium celebration.
Obama outlined his anti-gun plan that includes increased penalties for the interstate transportation of firearms. The maximum penalty now for bringing a gun across the border is 10 years in prison. Obama is proposing to make it a felony for a gun owner whose firearm was stolen from his residence which causes harm to another person if that weapon was not securely stored in that home. [!!!]
He's proposing restricting gun purchases to one weapon a month and banning the sale of firearms at gun shows except for "antique" weapons. Obama is also proposing increasing the licensing fee to obtain a federal firearms license.
He's also seeking a ban on police agencies from reselling their used weapons even if those funds are used to buy more state-of-the-art weapons for their agencies. Obama wants only those over 21 who've passed a basic course to be able to buy or own a firearm.
He's proposing that all federally licensed gun dealers sell firearms in a storefront and not from their homes while banning their business from being within five miles of a school or a park. He's also banning the sale of 'junk" handguns like the popular Saturday Night Specials.
Obama is requiring that all people working at a gun dealer undergo a criminal background check. He's also asking that gun manufacturers be required to develop safety measures that permit only the original owner of the firearm to operate the weapon purchased.
Additionally, he wants an increase of the funds for schools to teach anger management skills for youth between the ages of 5-13. Obama is also seeking to increase the federal taxes by 500 percent on the sale of firearm, ammunition [sic] -- weapons he says are most commonly used in firearm deaths
Posted by: countallthevotes | May 4, 2008 5:50:56 PM
jrs,
as obama said, as soon as he got into the senate, he started planning his run for president.
the media did not do its job early on
obama gave broad reaching speeches
and left us to fill in the blanks
if we knew then what we know now about obama he would not be in the lead.
we all know sen. clinton and even with knowing all the things some think they know. she was still in the lead.
obama just got lucky.
if obama gets into office, we are going to regret it.
sen. clinton runs cirlces around obama
on the issues that face us.say whatever you want, there is no denying
she is the smarter of the three,
and maybe that is why so many dislike her. they know she is the smartest, and she should be president-know we need someone like her to be president.
but many are angry because she seems hard to trust.
well as she said today, and I believe her in her public life-she has tried to do whatever she said she would do.
and there is no denying she has tried to help level the playing field.
to my black brothers and sisters i want to say.
when tom joyner was on tv helping the hbcu'-raising money-who was there by his side-a clinton
when tom joyner was working with bill gates to get the needles and aids meds prices reduced,for a lot of black people in american and africa-bill clinton
when tavis smileys state of the black union (which happens every year-and in presidental years the candidates go)
who went-sen. clinton
when the black press wanted to interview
the presidental candidates who went-sen. clinton.
now for all the blind loyalty you are giving obama in voting for him-because you think he is the one
where has obama been when trying to help the special needs of the black community.
you all say sen. clinton has only done things to advance her politcal career.
I say that is not true-but if doing good is what that is to you then so be
it.
but where has obama been?
he has only done things to advance his political career.
and from what we know about him now
it has been not a road of change and hope but a road of where do i need to step next, and step on next (alice palmer) to get where I want to go.
what does barack obama believe?
about anything...hes a heartbeat away from the white house and we american voters still don't know.
you supporters obama have to be careful of the words of his that he has told you to defend him-because while you are defending him with words you heard from him-turn on the tv, and if need be he has already changed what he was saying.
Posted by: jgaw | May 4, 2008 5:41:35 PM
A top Iraqi official said Sunday there was no "conclusive" evidence that Shiite extremists have been directly supplied with some Iranian arms as alleged by the United States.
Posted by: Ghm | May 4, 2008 5:33:34 PM
I know no one who will vote for now even if they may have voted for him before. He is a loose cannon waiting to misfire again. Can't trust the guy. And why does he want to keep the gang members in his district in guns? Did these people help elect him? He keeps changing his mind when the wind changes direction. Say or do anything to get elected is his motto. Gotta have that power.
Posted by: Irish Gram | May 4, 2008 5:28:57 PM
Hey Robert Hewson, -- Good for you bringing that up, at least Hillary has the "cojones" to face real unscripted town halls and answer direct questions from all people including the Obama supporters! Now, where is Obama? he went hiding from the debates because he was asked by ABC the direct questions his followers never answered to him. He still has a lot to answer but he chose not because he has no plans, no real ideas to solve real problems, instead of offering real solutions, all he does is attack every single proposal Hillary does and his campaign waste millions of dollars trashing her and distorting her records just to distract the people and let him avoid to answer the real questions. That's why he only goes to MSNBC or NBC or CNN, his favorite biased networks. How he can really lead the country when he really never ever been a leader even in Illinois, never fought for something in the Illinois Senate or i the US Senate, all he like is the backstabbing and back room politics...and of course give high level rhetorical speeches with teleprompter.
Obama is not good for the country. No record, no leadership proven, no agenda, no experience, he is all blah blah blah blah. We don't even know where is stand for!
Hillary 2008!
Posted by: James_Indy | May 4, 2008 5:25:54 PM
robert h
why do you say sen. clinton was trapped?
how was she trapped?
do you think sen. clinton was right to say this? or not?
she didn't appear trapped when she answered.
please tell us why you think she was trapped?
Posted by: jgaw | May 4, 2008 5:23:25 PM
Re:USVET
I happen to know about 5000 active duty soldiers who are definitely voting for Sen Obama because he has a better understanding of foreign policy.
He understands that wars are often started by the failuire of diplomacy and reason.
Honesty and strength are Virtues lacking in Sen Clinton
Posted by: wave06 | May 4, 2008 5:18:05 PM
Tom, I am assuming that you are white, please do not try to educate people on the black churches because you watch Sean Hannity the other day. If you are not going to vote for someone then dont but do not lower yourself and your self-respect to speak for black people, we already have too many idiots yourself included speaking for us. Stop spreading lies and just vote for who you are going to vote for weather it be Hillary or McLane.
Posted by: gallery500e | May 4, 2008 5:14:34 PM
Older wh person.
Yea I should have said an Old Vet and I support Obama
Posted by: Thinking | May 4, 2008 4:57:34 PM
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