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Clinton Campaign Statement on Father Pfleger Comments
May 29, 2008 8:28 PM
The Clinton campaign's communications director, Howard Wolfson, clearly thinks Obama's rejection of Father Pfleger's sermon was lacking.
Wolfson says: "Divisive and hateful language like that is totally counterproductive in our efforts to bring our party together and have no place at the pulpit or in our politics. We are disappointed that Senator Obama didn't specifically reject Father's Pflegler's despicable comments about Senator Clinton, and assume he will do so."
- jpt
May 29, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (221)
Disgusting behavior by this Pastor and the patrons of Trinity Church were equally appalling. I can't believe Obama spent 20 years there and lets his kids listen to this garbage. I will never trust Obama.
The story of how Obama won the election in Chicago is shameful. He forced everyone off the ballot on technicalities so his name would only appear. He claims he played by the rules. Well sometimes rules are wrong and you have to be "stand up" and do the right thing. The rules use to say that blacks and women couldn't vote. Some rules were just plain WRONG. Disenfranchising voters is just plain WRONG.
A "NEW" KIND OF POLITICS-INDEED!
If Obama is elected there will be a stampede of democrats leaving the Democratic Party.
Posted by: maria zimmerman | May 31, 2008 1:55:12 AM
It is so funny to me to hear the response of the Clinton campaign to these comments! Talk about babyish hypersensitivity...Sen. Clinton, how in the world do you expect to deal with 4 years of being president if you can't deal with this guy's comments?
And maybe the reason why you don't like what he's saying is that it's too close to the truth...you have always felt entitled, as if being Queen of the United States..Oops! I meant "President of the United States" was supposed to be your royal right. Sez who? Do you really think you deserve the White House simply because of the embarrassment you had to endure at the hands of Former President Clinton?
Your campaign makes noises like this preacher was hitting you "below the belt"...kinda sounds like the way you and the former president character-attacked Sen. Obama in S.C. to me....
Grow up, or get out of the race.
Posted by: David Leggett | May 30, 2008 7:45:45 PM
Well at least they have stopped saying he is a Muslim.
Posted by: Are you really a Clinton Supporters. | May 30, 2008 6:17:11 PM
Senator Clinto says that: "We are disappointed that Senator Obama didn't specifically reject Father's Pflegler's despicable comments about Senator Clinton, and assume he will do so."
Well, I and others remain disappointed that Clinton did not apologize to Obama for Clinton's despicable and not-so-subtle allusion to the possibility of an Obama assassination. We still assume she will do so.
Posted by: Liz | May 30, 2008 5:59:25 PM
If you want to see divisive and hateful language look no further than Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Doug | May 30, 2008 2:38:57 PM
What kind of church is trinity? I cannot even imagine the Lord or His apostles preaching such hate and vitriol as Wright or Pfleger. Be assured, you are known by the company you keep. Your chioice of friends reflects yopur judgement and discernment. Obama is sorely lacking in both areas. He is NOT qualified to be my President.
Posted by: Lawrence | May 30, 2008 1:43:55 PM
Disgraceful.
People can have whatever opinions they want. But for a Priest to use the pulpit to mock and ridicule a person, based on race (and gender) is astonishly inappropriate.
And this isn't some fringe Obama follower, this is another of his spiritual advisors of over 20 years.
Posted by: clbrune | May 30, 2008 1:39:28 PM
Why the HELL isn't this church paying taxes???? This is a violation of Federal law!!! Sic the IRS on Obama's church & Pfleger's church!
And "Rev." Pfleger, psssst---you're not black. Hate to tell you...
So now I know the Catholic church tolerates both pedophilia and misogyny.
Why would I EVER vote for Obama if this is the caliber of his supporters?
Posted by: MJ | May 30, 2008 1:20:26 PM
I'm amazed at the "so what?" responses on this board.
I'm a laid back kinda person who says live and let live. This Father Pfleger situation is...is....shocking. If you folks don't think Mr. Obama has this same conviction as this church after 20 years...20 years of intimate attendance (marriage, baptism, etc..) running through his veins then I've got some land 30 minutes west of Malibu I'd like to sell.
If……Hagee (sic) had stated Obama by name and insulted the entire black race in reverse here, would be unforgivable and if you didn’t think so the MSM would make sure you knew. You know and I know it.
We are looking for character, values and principles in our next president not a race war.
Healing America? More like extracting your gums because of a tooth cavity.
You are who you hang with so Mr. Obama; you have just lost my vote.
W. A.
Posted by: W. A. | May 30, 2008 1:05:24 PM
This is the worst sort of politics with the worst sort of candidate. It is just insanity that the Democratic party is supporting Obama. They need to put up Clinton or wait potentially another eight years for another serious run at it.
Posted by: Stamford | May 30, 2008 12:40:55 PM
This is the worst sort of politics with the worst sort of candidate. It is just insanity that the Democratic party is supporting Obama. They need to put up Clinton or wait potentially another eight years for another serious run at it.
Posted by: Stamford | May 30, 2008 12:39:00 PM
When it is time to vote in November, many will put country before party in choosing the POTUS.
Obama is not the nominee yet and now old news is breaking into the MSM...
Posted by: country before party | May 30, 2008 12:15:03 PM
What a GREAT CHURCH!!!
What a GREAT RELIGION Obama has!!!
Posted by: Eddie Bryan | May 30, 2008 12:14:21 PM
There is a reason why 17 million Hillary supporters are behind her nomination and will not vote for Obama, yesterdays release of the Pfleger's vidio is one of the reasons. Obama can't win in November, the DNC better read the 'Tealeafts'
Posted by: mel7 | May 30, 2008 11:27:34 AM
Senator Hillary Clinton was right - what a difference 3 months can make!
After yet another scandal regarding Senator Obama not simply coming from the State of Illinois, not simply the City of Chicago, but right from his church's own pulpit, Obama's fellow citizens celebrate the race card.
A white catholic priest, Fr. Pfleger, known as very powerful in the Chicago African-American community, spoke last Sunday from Rev. Wright's pulpit (Obama's church for 20 years) and mocked Hillary for (a) running for office with her sole deficit being that she is white; (b) mocking that old Jim Crow tune of "entitlement" because she is white; (c) and that Obama is winning because he is black.
If House Majority Leader Pelosi and Senate Leader Harry Reid think they are going to throw Senator Hillary Clinton under the wheels to unify the democrat party, they are losing their minds.
Obama and friends have made race the issue of this year's election.
Throw Senator Obama back to Chicago with his friends. They can hoot and holler all they want.
We want someone whose focus is putting food on our tables; Americans back to work; and bringing the Iraqi war to a just, swift conclusion.
That person is Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Jim | May 30, 2008 10:25:48 AM
Obama did not make the comments and to anyone's knowledge did not write the sermon and was not in the audience. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton did state that the reason she was staying in was that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June. Hillary Clinton did, in fact, practically endorse John McCain. So despite everything that is written here to the contrary, Obama is more presidential and more deserving of the position of president. Also, I agree with Rupert Murdoch, Obama will win by a landslide in November.
Posted by: Sixth | May 30, 2008 10:22:49 AM
Last night on CNN, Anderson Cooper gave us some insights of what Obama is really like. A dishonest, un-american, anti democratic, sexist, vile, corrupt individual.
There is no place for Hussein Obama in government.
To the SD I suggest to think reallyhard before voting for him. The Democrats will lose in November, and who ever is up for re-election, will follow Obama, Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy in primis.
Posted by: Joe | May 30, 2008 9:29:04 AM
I am so sick of Obama and his spiritual advisers...Do they even believe in God?...do they ever preach the word? DISGUSTING! Just like Obama, DISGUSTING!
Posted by: 30yrdem | May 30, 2008 9:26:22 AM
DISGRACE!!!!!
IF Hillary or McCains church pastor ranted these RACIST comments about obama - there would be riots!!! To see the people Cheering - this is what they expect to see/hear in church - SHOCKING!WHY does obama attend this racist church - he must know and believe the message - WE all know the message now and obama cannot SPIN it again. How Sad! obama has divided our party beyond repair and set race issues back 200 years - so much for our new guy of "Unity". I will NEVER vote for obama - I now see who he is thru his "friends" - associates and church.
Posted by: Molly | May 30, 2008 9:05:10 AM
That's really a good one. Someone from the CLINTON camp crying divisive behavior from an Obama supporter.
I guess the "hard working...WHITE hard working American" statement wasn't meant to be divisive...I guess the less educated Americans wasn't meant to say he is elite...I guess the Kennedy assassination comment was meant to UNITE this country.
Posted by: Pot and Kettle | May 30, 2008 9:02:45 AM
[[D oyou all think this was released yesterady by accident? The Clinton campaign has been sitting on this for a while ready to let loose, and make you all look like fools.]]
It just happened Sunday; it was released Thursday. That isn't very much time...
Posted by: beth | May 30, 2008 8:57:18 AM
For the priest's support of Obama earmarked $100K to one of the priest's outreach programs. Is this the "future you want"? Obviously this type of fanatical rant gets rewarded by Obama. Obama doesn't have to say those words, but he rewards them generously.
Now his campaign is strong arming his own superdelegates. Is this the change you all want?
Posted by: Linda C | May 30, 2008 8:55:51 AM
It's really simple.
Obama claims to be running for change and against politics as usual.
1. Either he joined this church for political gain and doesn't agree with it
OR
2. He believes the church and it's white bashing ways and for political gain is distancing himself from it.
Either way, he is not being honest and is playing politics for personal gain.
Posted by: kate | May 30, 2008 8:41:36 AM
I'm tired of hearing the Axelrod/Wright/Pfleger/Obama version of the truth spun in a passive-aggressive way that blames the targets of their screed.
What Pfleger said was typical of the ugly, dirty divisiveness that Obama's campaign has used in a really sneaky way. Lets see whether Obama's teflon holds this one off.
Clinton is the strongest and most qualified candidate and IF Axelrod et al get their way, then I am writing in Clinton's name. There is no way I will vote for this empty suit fed to the American public on "coolness" and infatuated "what ifs".
Posted by: Anne | May 30, 2008 8:32:47 AM
Obama wants us to associate him with old Uncle Charlie and his Grandfather who fought in WWII as though that makes Obama himself a patriotic American.
But we aren't supposed to associate him with those who have been pivotal in his life for the past 20 years like Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, William Ayers, and Tony Rezko as though that makes Obama himself a racist, anti-American, corrupt politician.
Posted by: HoosierSue | May 30, 2008 8:18:08 AM
ann,
What part didnt you understand about the bitter remarks ?
People who vote repulican do so because they vote on one issue wether its guns or god...
When they looked at the big picture they would see that the democrats have more to offer them in their interest than republicans do..
Republicans are for the rich and super rich... They offer Tax cuts to the rich.. Nothing for the working man nothing for the poor working man...
Its true!
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 8:13:23 AM
D oyou all think this was released yesterady by accident? The Clinton campaign has been sitting on this for a while ready to let loose, and make you all look like fools. Obama cannot control what other people say. All he can say is that he rebukes it and say those are no his views. This is just another ploy of racism in this campaign. Just another way to spit the party. and it looks like it is working, at least for the stupid, desperate people who will do anything to get HRC in office.
Posted by: formerhillary | May 30, 2008 8:07:01 AM
Serious Question about the pastor's comment....
ISN'T TRUTH A DEFENSE?
What did he say that was actually untrue?
Besides, that's how HRC defended her assassination hope.
Posted by: TrueDem | May 30, 2008 8:03:15 AM
Pamela,
I thank you for standing up for Obama in the past!
On your other points can you tell me what Obama or his campaign has done in reagrds to these points.
"I'm tired of the sexism. I'm tired of being called racist because I'm not gaga over an unqualified nominee like Obama. I'm tired of Obama's campaign stirring up stuff and then claiming it wasn't them."
???????????????????????????????????????
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 8:02:37 AM
LA in Indiana,
Have a nice day : )
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 7:58:25 AM
I use to like Obama. I just thought he needed a few more years of seasoning. I would have had no problem voting for him, if my girl didn't make it.
That's not the case anymore. And it's mostly due to his disgusting followers who are on full display in this comment thread and on the video with Father Pfleger.
I use to defend Obama if anyone ever tried to use that rumor about him being a Muslim. First of all I would say it shouldn't matter what your religion is as long as you kept it out of the government, and second I would tell people he belongs to the same denomination that I do, the UCC. Now I have to defend my church and say that the UCC isn't like that, that we believe in tolerance and inclusion of all people.
The same cannot be said for the Obama campaign and his followers who think that they can exclude a major portion of the Democratic Party in the Fall and still win.
I'm tired of the sexism. I'm tired of being called racist because I'm not gaga over an unqualified nominee like Obama. I'm tired of Obama's campaign stirring up stuff and then claiming it wasn't them. If Obama is the nominee, this will be the first time I will not vote for the Democrat. I can't vote for McCain, but I will write in Clinton's name. And I am not alone.
Posted by: Pamela | May 30, 2008 7:49:15 AM
Hey LA in indian
Dont get sucked into the racebaiting !
This isnt a race about race its a race about the past vs the future!
This is only a story because Hillarys campaign is making it one because they rather be talked about then forgoten..
THIS IS THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN SAYING LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME.... IM STILL HERE
The Clintons old news and will be gone soon!
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 7:42:33 AM
I understand mocking an opponent isn't necessarily a PC thing to do. But why are we critiquing these sermons in pieces and these pastors like this?
I don't like what came out of Parsons and Hagee's mouths but I do recognize they are standing on sacred ground with believers they are leading forward. As an entire American public, we might reject their sermons and love the people they offend but what business do we have analyzing whether God called them or not.
Seriously, when we get into that territory we standing on dangerous ground. In a political context mockery is not wonderful, in a religious context mocking the prophets and the messiah have a long rich tradition until God speaks.
Posted by: Genna | May 30, 2008 7:41:44 AM
Obama will soon join Camp Kerry.. as the big loser, come November.
Posted by: Stewie Griffin | May 30, 2008 7:37:50 AM
Again, most people understand that this joker doesn't speak for Obama, nor does Obama endorse his views...BUT...again the issue is about "judgement" (as Obama likes to say when challanged about his lack of experience). If you don't have the good judgement to think that perhaps a Church such as TUCC might just maybe be an albatross for someone with POTUS aspirations, well, you're just not ready for a leadership position, simple as that.
Also, the "rumour" is that among the TUCC CD's and videos that you can buy, are more than one instance of Obama captured in the crowd while Wright was sermonizing about something outrageous. Just a rumour, but you would think that this "gotcha" is just being kept in reserve by either the Hillary or RNC camps.
Posted by: James | May 30, 2008 7:36:24 AM
LA in Indiana
Obama can and will be elected dont believe people on these blogs half of them are racebaiting republicans and dont believe the media its in their interest to make the race seem close if there was no drama the'd be no reason for us to watch in the end Mcbush will have his ass kicked...
Obama will be the 44th POTUS
The polls where done May 16-27..
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 7:34:14 AM
Drip, Drip, drip.
the slow leak of Obama's hateful and nasty friendships.
Posted by: trettine | May 30, 2008 7:31:55 AM
Look, this guy is correct in that white people do benefit from the sins of their ancestors. Bill Clinton himself addressed this when he was president. This is not a problem that gets solved overnight, and it will not get solved with inflammatory rhetoric like this. It gets solved on a day to day, working with local governments and state governments, along with the federal government. During the 8 years of the Clinton presidency, these things were beginning to be accomplished. It will not happen overnight. As to the disgusting language in regards to Senator Hillary Clinton, that is beyond the pale. Senator Obama needs to apologize for this to Senator Clinton, whether publicly or privately. And yes, to answer someone else's comment, Senator Clinton did apologize for the remarks of Geraldine Ferraro.
Posted by: SandyS | May 30, 2008 7:27:02 AM
To those who don't think it's fair to condemn Obama on his association with Wright and Pfleger -
Wright and Pfleger represent the radical Black Liberation Theology which is the belief system of the church Obama attended for 20 years. He took his children to the church to be indoctrinated into those beliefs.
He has every right to worship wherever he chooses. But it's preposterous to attend such a divisive, hate-filled church and then declare that he's the "one we've been waiting for" to unite all of us as President.
Birds of feather flock together.
Show me your friends and I'll show you who you are.
You can judge a man by the company he keeps.
Posted by: HoosierSue | May 30, 2008 7:24:21 AM
LA in Indiana,
Hill and Bill will be gone soon enough and the democrats will unite behind Barack...
There will be those that wont vote for Barack because of his race and they are the sameones that have been and will be screwed by the republicans that offer no path for the poor and middle class to move forward just tax cuts for the rich and screw the rest.
Did you see the polls in CA today and NY Obama leads hillary as the party nominee by a landslide 51 to 38 percent
Obama will win and Clinton will be done soon and then we can get on to kicking the RNCs butt!
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 7:21:30 AM
seah,
Im not religious... I dont care much what anyones Church says.. I do care what the candidates say!
Father Michael Louis Pfleger seems like a god guy Im told but not sure that when he was young he was a friend of MLK and JFK. thats some good friends in my books!
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 7:10:15 AM
Reports of the tape and its contents in the media discuss only his remarks about Clinton. That is not the biggest problem here.
What is not discussed is the extreme racist remarks which are more than divisive and have no place being said by a priest of the Catholic church. God knows that my church did not do enough to try to prevent the Holocaust and other race related injustice. A priest can do much for the poor etc. without engaging in racist diatribes that promote anger, hatred and eventually violence.
Posted by: cynic457 | May 30, 2008 7:00:26 AM
GIVE THE REKO THING A REST THE FINAL WORD ON IT HAS BEEN TOLD DAYS AGO
"There is no evidence nor accusation of any wrong doing by Obama" - Prosecutor Assistant U.S. Attorney Reid J. Schar 5-12-08
ABC-7
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 6:56:01 AM
I think the Rev was absolutely correct!
Hillary doesn't care about anything except her own lust for power. When she came in 3rd in IA, she had to cry to NH voters to get sympathy.
Afer all, she was supposed to win right?
Posted by: No apology needed | May 30, 2008 6:43:51 AM
When Clinton said something distasteful, Obama defended her. When someone, who is not even Obama, says something distasteful, the Clintons pounce all over it.
Obama immediately denounced the statement and yet that is not good enough for the Clintons.
The Clintons are not nice people and they sure are cry babies.
I am so looking forward to the day when they are off the National Stage.
Posted by: Ivan | May 30, 2008 6:35:52 AM
LATEST NEWS: Pelosi and Reid wants to move up the convention to June. Sentence for breaking the rules: Only one of them gets to vote.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 30, 2008 6:07:30 AM
CONCERNED CITIZEN
Make no mistake. All the charges of racism and the many of the negative stories about Hillary are fed by the Obama campaign. Then Obama stands back and publically says he does not agree with the crap that his campaign is putting out.
He is the king of slime and the hypocrisy and angry undercurrents that appear on the blogs are and extension of some very effective hypocrisy.
For instance the Obama campaign slanders Ferraro with the racist charge. Her comments were almost identical to some comments made by Obama in 2005 by the way. Then the candidate Obama goes public claiming that of course Ferraro was not being racist. Meanwhile his campaign continues to dish the dirt.
I will never vote for this guy...and I know a lot of Democrats that feel that way. But we are being told daily that Obama doesn't need our votes anyway....He's only looking for koolaid drinkers.
Posted by: Jackie | May 30, 2008 5:47:58 AM
HILLARY GO AWAY WE DONT WANT YOU!
33-18 YOU LOST AND YOU GOING TO LOSE NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WHINE AND SNIPE
PS JPT THANKS FOR FINDING OUT WHO "THEM" IS THE OTHER DAY !
Posted by: Kate | May 30, 2008 5:39:17 AM
OUCH THE TRUTH HURTS! - AND TO PROVE IT SHE HAS ORGANIZED A PROTEST OUTSIDE THE DNC COMMITTEE'S MAY 31ST MEETING TO COERCE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GIVE HER ALL THE VOTES FROM FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THIS WOMAN BECAME PRESIDENT HOW SHE WILL ONLY BE SELF SEEKING and not be governed by any sense of decenty. IT IS NOW CLINTON V. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN AN EFFORT TO DESTROY IT.
Posted by: steve | May 30, 2008 5:02:57 AM
If Obama wants to link McCain to Bush then surely Obama has a direct link to these hateful pastors and church, a church that he defends and is a member of. Obama's church members are even cheering these hateful sermons on.
If you haven't notice Obama has a ever growing list of very questionable friendships and associations.
As the election continues so does the increase in race tensions, some uniter that Obama. So far far there has been more divsion then uniting sine Obama has entered this campaign.
Posted by: Bill | May 30, 2008 5:02:12 AM
If anyone was speaking about Obama like this, I would be shocked and angry. To hear someone speaking about Hillary or anyone else like this, I was also disgusted. And even more disgusted that it's coming from the pulpit. Why is the word "damn" used so much from this pulpit? I can't believe that so many people in this country are defending speeches like this. Even if you're an Obama supporter, this language and speeches like this should not be accepted as okay in our country. This just feeds the hate and creates even more hate. Hate is hate, I don't care who you're talking about.
Posted by: AK | May 30, 2008 4:55:58 AM
What a petty and horrible statement issued by Clinton. She still has to be polorizing until the end. The priest apologized and Obama issued a statment. Enough said.
Posted by: leslie | May 30, 2008 4:54:34 AM
You Obama supporters really are not in touch with reality! How can you honestly vote for a man that has so little experience. The presidency is a really tough job and I honestly don't think Obama is up to it at this point in his life.Personally, I think he is just a puppet for the far left liberal agenda which I think would be very bad for our country. I am a Hillary supporter however, if she is not the nominee, I will be voting for McCain because I see him as the lesser of two evils.
Posted by: Elizabeth Lora | May 30, 2008 3:54:17 AM
A VOTE FOR OBAMA WILL GET REV. WRIGHT IN THE WHITE HOUSE
Posted by: kerry | May 30, 2008 3:38:13 AM
I am black and Catholic and live in Chicago. First of all Father Pfleger is a Catholic priest and serves his congregation at St Sabina church. No he is not a man kicked out of the priesthood. He is sanctioned by the Cardinal. How is Obama or anyone else for that matter have any control over what a priest or preacher says in public? If that is the case then Hillary has gotten a pass on this subjhect. Better look at her religous conections also just as Mccain and Obama have been scrutinized about preachers and churh associations. Also in the Catholic church there of course has been the nationwide child abuse scandal yet we Catholics sit in our churches Sunday after Sunday. Why? Should we not reject the whole churh by what some priests have done to young kids. Why not the same outrage over that just as there is with Obama's religous connections? My faith is in God not man and no man is going to run me away from my churh because my church is more to me than what humans say or do I am more concerned about what God has said and done. Catholic bishops came out against Kerry due to abortion rights in the last election yet were those bishops shot down because of the church scandals? Was Kerry shot down for being Catholic, or rather was he shot down because some priests had decided to put their hands on little boys? Get a grip and stop jumping on someone because a person who says they are a supporter of a cndidate says something that you don't like. Candidates do not control the mouths of all of their supporters. Hell coaches of various sport teams can't control the mouths of players on their own teams and they have a direct connection to these players. Why don't you people get a grip and relaize this. Everyone in this campaign has said something dumb now or in their past. Make an issue out of real issues that effect us.If we had done this then we would not be in the situation we are now in whith bush. If you are for someone ok but you don't have to go after a persons associations. Again you weren't so worried about associations with bush were you. All of these candidates have pluses and minuses. I was a Clinton supporter in the past and changed to Obama, primarily due to some friends of mine who's daughters babysat for Obama's daughters and this couple later helped Obama in his early community organizing. As a father of girls I would never let my daughter babysit in someone's home if I did not trust them. Also my friends have told me that Obama is genuine and sincere in his plans for this country. This is just my personal observation and I would not expect any one to convert to Obama because of my two doctor friends who know him. Yes my doctor friends. Does that make me an elitists. Well I dispatch trucks for a living and I don't think that qualifies me as elitist but you think what you want. Would my daughter be babysitting at Hillary's if she had young kids? Hell No, not with bill on the prowl. If you want to look be so high and mighty and moral and want to judge byt the company you keep you have no further to look then bill clinton whom I voted proudly for twice but ended up in embarresment due to his problems. Is Hillary guilty by her association with her husband? Are there scandals in her husband's past that make you wonder about her judgement? I won't go there and I won't now. As I said I supported her in the beginning so I overlooked bill in the beginning and I overlook him now. You think that rethuglicans will have a field day with Obama's associations then think long and hard how Hillary will be on the defensive because of bill alone when the ge begins let alone her own past. She will spend most of her time on the defensive and that will take away from her trying to talk about her programs. I do not dislike the Clinton's even with some of the things I personally feel they have stooped to but I do feel that they think they are entitled to the presidency as many of her supporters do and I am just ready for a fresh face. Inexperince you say about Obama? Well that is just what I am looking for. Look how far experience has gotten us. Look at gas look at food. I have three kids in college and that is killing my wife and I financially, but we push on to educate or children and what you do for one you have to do for all. Obama has a great plan to get children in and out of college with less financial debt. Not only is college breaking my wife and I but what we can't cover my kids will have to cover when they get out of school and no one should have to do that starting out. If you want to attack Obama on his policy stances then go ahead but all these other attacka are bs. For some of you you are such committed Hillary fans that you go beyond policy. And contrary to popular beliefs Obama does have specific plans if you stop and bother to read. Lastly,my father is a WWII veteran who came back from the war and still had to go to a seperate bathroom in his home state of Alabama. Am I proud of that ? No. We went to Look Out Montain in Tennesse when I was four and because I drank off the wrong fountain my dad was almost lynched. Think about that a WWII hero almost lynched because his kid drank off the wrong fountain. Am I proud of that ? No. I can go on and on and show different examples of racism and prejudice in my life and am I proud of my country for allowing goons like this to roam free and harrass lynch and kill? No. Though I am not proud of those things about my country do I still love it? Yes. I served in Viet Nam while a lot of today's politicians sat on their ass while I pounded the jungles. Was I proud of some of the things that went on in Nam? No but I never stopped loving my country. There are wives that suffer abuse but still love their husbands. I understand what Michelle Obama meant and for those of you who do not to bad. I am not a victim and I am proud of Obama for the campaign he has run and the things he has said. I am also proud of Hillary for the campaign she has run and the things she has said. Has she made mistakes of course she has just as Obama has. I just choose to vote for him and not her. That does not mean that I tear here down as I could but that would show that I have learned nothing of the ignorance that I have experienced in my past because what I see in a lot of atacks is pure uneducated ignorance. GO DEMOPCRATIC PARTY AND GO OBAMA IN 08.
Posted by: waynesr | May 30, 2008 3:33:16 AM
The Liberals think this is their chance to get into power. Pound a bunch of legislation thru, then get BOOTED out of office, just like the Carter circus.
This is why they dont want Hillary. They want their liberal agendas and the ability to manipulate Obama.
Posted by: cgeast | May 30, 2008 3:32:09 AM
What a lie you have bought into. Obama begins his story, “I was born to a single mother…” (which is a lie) because he knows we will make the leap and picture another poor black child of poverty. The truth (from his books) is that after his father left when he was 2, he was raised lovingly and comfortably by his mother and two grandparents in an upper class white neighborhood. He went to an elite private high school and then on to the Ivy Leagues. He has never known the problems of poor people, let alone the middle class. Hillary Clinton was raised in much less privileged circumstances than Obama, and the Clintons have made their money after Pres. Clinton left the White House. They have given their lives to helping the underprivileged and continue to do so through the Clinton Foundation.
That poor guy probably just want some attention. He needs help, put him in a safe place before he hurts somebody. Pennsylvania and Indiana please, please vote Mrs. Clinton for President. We are losing to many jobs already, a lot of businesses are already suffering and about to fire a lot of people. Help us the rest of the USA to keep our jobs, homes, food and our sanity. Inexperience is an obstacle, speeches are forgotten. Spare all of us of real hard times.
Posted by: kerry | May 30, 2008 3:18:39 AM
Tired of hearing about OBAMA and his speeches ...
We just want to COUNT ALL THE VOTES IN ALL THE STATES, INDLUDING MI AND FL ...
And if the Democrats INSIST on OBAMA, they can have their OBAMA for nominee ...
We will leave and join with the Republicans because we really believe the Presidency is far bigger than any political party ...
We vote the candidate, not the party ...
And the next best candidate for the Presidency of the United States after Hillary is MCCAIN.
Posted by: kerry | May 30, 2008 3:17:16 AM
Barack Obama has lied without reservation to the the American people on many occassions and continues to do so.
Regardless of what any other politician is saying or doing, both Bush and Obama lack the ability to be truthful.
Also, Barack Obama heralds his speech opposing the war while he was still a state senator.
As a U.S. Senator, Obama has had numerous opportunities to vote against the war and did not--if he was there to vote.
Comparing Obama's willingness to mislead and lie to that of George W. Bush is entirely appropriate.
Posted by: kerry | May 30, 2008 3:16:11 AM
We know this much about Obama: He started running for President before his first Senate term was finished. He has had a 17-year relationship with Rezko whose trial has yet to be completed. He has written untruths in his books about when and how his mother and father married. He was untruthful when he tried to drammatize how his father came to this country with help from John Kennedy. He plaigiarized "his" famous "words" speech, a speech already given by Deval Patrick. He has lied about the sources of his campaign money. He had a shady deal with Rezko and his wife to buy his home and adjacent property, and continues to lie about it. He has had a 20-year relationship with his pastor, friend, and spiritual advisor who has thousands of words with ranting and raving hatred sermons condemning America and "damning" America. That is just the surface. He had a lot of audacity to run when he had so little experience, but, we know that people like Kerry and Kennedy urged him to run. They think that the American voter will follow their lead. Not this time. We have seen a great lack of wisdom and experience in his words and decisions. We have seen too much double talk in the debates, his speeches, and his decisions.
Posted by: kerry | May 30, 2008 3:14:44 AM
. No one is asking who Barack is. But here is some insight into who he associates with. Remember his shady house deal? Rezko, who was bankrupt at the time, had his wife purchase the lot next door even though she didn't have the income to support such a transaction. So where did the money come from and why on earth would Barack purchase something he couldn't afford? Why would we want him as the steward of our economy? And who does he associate with. Here's a clue....
Several US political fundraisers are currently on trial for corruption in connection with loans received from Auchi. Auchi is currently barred from entering the US.
Nadhmi Auchi was viewed with a lot of suspicion by the Iraqi opposition to Saddam Hussein's regime, regarding him as a front-man for Saddam's intelligence service.[4] Auchi was involved in several multi-billion dollar business deals in the post-Saddam era too, such as the Orascom mobile phone network (IraqNa), and at least one power generation contract involving Chicago-based tycoon Antoin Rezko and Iraq's former Minister of Electricity, Aiham Alsamarrae, who has been convicted over corruption charges in Iraq and is now living in Chicago.
There's your change you can believe in.....Wright.
Posted by: kerry | May 30, 2008 3:13:22 AM
Where oh where did the fake Davis go, oh where oh where can you be...
Where are you Kerry????
Hillary has lost her little sheep, so oh where oh where can kerry be?
Posted by: Davis | May 30, 2008 3:08:45 AM
There is a far-reaching scandal brewing for presidential hopeful Sen.
Barack Obama, thanks to a radio talk show host based in Oregon.
Syndicated talk host Laurie Roth's revelations make the news story about
Obama's relationship with a racist, anti-American pastor look like
child's play.
A top official at the Pentagon during former-President George H. W.
Bush's Administration and a former CIA intelligence officer maintain
that Barack Obama and former Weather Underground honcho William Ayers
funneled money to Professor Rashid Khalidi, a known terrorist sympathizer.
Khalidi serves on the faculty of Columbia University in New York and is
best known as the professor who invited Iranian President Ahmedinejad to
visit Columbia University after he finished his speech at the United
Nations. According to confidential sources, Khalidi has direct ties to
the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), a group on the US State
Department's list of known terrorist groups.
"One source for this information was once a top military figure in the
1990s. He doesn't take making allegations lightly. If he says something happened, believe me, it happened," said syndicated radio talk show host Laurie Roth ...
Posted by: kerry | May 30, 2008 3:08:38 AM
Jo,
We do have a plan like you said.
My friends would like to switch party or stay home in November if Hillary is not the nominee which look like DNC already made up their minds.
Posted by: catleya | May 30, 2008 2:42:08 AM
So let me get this straight.. since your candidate isn't going to make it to the nomination.. you're going to stay home? LOL .. oh wait.. gonna switch parties to become republican?? LOLOLOL.. what a troll you are... no democrat is going to switch to becoming a republican. That is just plain stupid for even suggesting such a thing.
So, your candidate isn't going to win so you want to take your ball and go home... LOL. You're acting like a 5 year old.
Posted by: CONCERNED CITIZEN | May 30, 2008 2:56:06 AM
Kerry,
Thanks a lot for the informations.
Posted by: catleya | May 30, 2008 2:49:31 AM
The Obama supporters are so very nasty and vile in their postings. No wonder Senator Obama will not win. He will never be able to bring people together but has surely caused more divisions. Many, many voters have left the Democtatic Party because of his Socialist/Marxist agenda.
Posted by: Mary | May 30, 2008 2:47:03 AM
Jo,
We do have a plan like you said.
My friends would like to switch party or stay home in November if Hillary is not the nominee which look like DNC already made up their minds.
Posted by: catleya | May 30, 2008 2:42:08 AM
You are judged by the company you keep. The Trinity United Church does not worship the good Lord. The Father does not belong to the Catholic Church. I am voting for McCain.
Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008 9:24:26 PM
Oh really? Judged by the company you keep? Didn't Jesus Christ keep company with prostitutes? Hmmmmm... you better double check what you post before you post it... you just slandered Jesus Christ... the religious freaks will be after you now since you just judged Him to be a slimeball. Have a nice day.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | May 30, 2008 2:41:36 AM
John McCain is a celebrity - the voice of some Republicans.
HilLIARy Clinton is a professional victim - the voice of some Democrats.
Barack Obama is a scholar - the voice of America.
Posted by: Gerry | May 30, 2008 2:40:12 AM
Several prominent civil rights attorneys said Democrats must fully seat the FL and MI delegation. Senator Arlen Specter stated a Congressional hearing might be called.
Gallup Poll - Clinton 50%--McCain 43%
Posted by: Mary | May 30, 2008 2:38:15 AM
Obama cannot win in November. This is why real Democrats have voted to nominate Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 30, 2008 2:35:19 AM
The violence of Davis and other Obama supporters has convinced me to never support their candidate. All of them are sexist, and none of them have any constructive comments to offer. They are the reason why political discourse in this country is so debased.
Obama supporters are violent and out of touch.
Posted by: truthteller2007 | May 30, 2008 2:33:50 AM
Stop the politics of personal destruction. Hillary needs to condemn criticism of Obama, the Democratic Party nominee, if she is to retain a shred of dignity and respect. Its time she stood up for the party, not divided it.
Posted by: bob10001 | May 30, 2008 2:33:46 AM
kerry,
Go ahead and vote for McInsane, McBush, McWhatever, it doesn't matter.
You and the 100 or so regular Hillary or McBottomOfHisClass bloggers can do whatever you want, no one her is trying to convince the unconvertible Hillary delusional people...
You all are nothing but a fly speck in this upcoming election. Do you think the people that blog on these ABC blogs do it to convert people?? Ha, ha, ha!
We are here to beat the cr*p out of your stupid drunken lying candidate, and hopefully make sure she and her "has been" husband, NEVER darken the halls of the White House again!!!
Posted by: Davis | May 30, 2008 2:31:11 AM
Catelya,
What you can do is spread the word to Hillary supporters to either stay home or vote for McCain. That will teach them and the media to not allow this travesty to happen again.
Posted by: Jo | May 30, 2008 2:30:55 AM
With all the new scandals coming out for Obama, it is no wonder Hillary stays in the race.
Posted by: Beth | May 30, 2008 2:29:42 AM