Clinton Evokes Bloody Zimbabwe Election Dispute When Discussing Florida and Michigan

Wow...she really got all those old seniors inspired with her speech at the senior living center didn't she. I mean, they were just in a frenzie with Hillary's fear mongering and concern over the loss of democracy.

Just remember if she cared about ALL the voters, she would not have signed a pledge agreeing to the Democratic Party's rules in the beginning. She would not insist that caucus states don't count. She would not call FL or MI a fair election since Obama wasn't even on the ballot in one or campaign in the other. She would not have publicly stated it was a beauty contest. She would realize not everyone turned out to vote. Obama had to overcome name recognition of two Clintons who WERE synamous with the name Democrat. He could only do that by hard campaigning...a fact Hillary full well knows.

Suzanne:

The only reason Obama took his name off the roster was because he knew he didn't have a chance in hell of winning at that time.

He was NOT required to take his name off!!!

In any casem he told his field phoners to spread the word thaat everyone should vote "uncommitted"... which they did.

In Florida, he was the ONLY candidate who advertised prior to the primary.
B O claims that was because of how his advertising contract had been set up.

Doesn't matter!

He BROKE THE RULE!!!!

Ask the people of Illinois about how devious his senatorial elections were in their state.

Ask them what they know about the importance of Emil Stone as the propellant and bearer of other senators' bills to be be passed off to Obama ... then "passed" in HIS name!

Emil is a super delegate for ?????.

All this in the final year of B O's state senatorship.

Bush ran on "Change, and look at some of the changes HE has made.

Raila Odinga, cousin of Obama and member of the Odinga dynasty in Kenya who he aided and financially abetted, ran his bloody campaign as "The agent of Change".

Al qaeda.... GAVE us change!

On the other hand,the changes the Clinton years rewarded us with were economic growth and comfort, and an abundance in the US Treasury.

I have faith that, of all the candidates, Hillary is the only one who can "direct our feet to the sunny side of the street".

Which is why I encourage, implore her, to take it to the convention...... especially in the absence of media objectiveness and in the presence of the media blackout regarding her.

GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!

I will and have rejected B. Hussein Obama. Not only have I rejected him I have started telling everyone I meet in the day, alot as I handle customer service as well as deliver and answer the phone, about B. Hussein Obama and his ties to terrorist Ayers and his connection to the Rezko mess and how he got money for “favors”. Nobody has heard of either name, so I tell them to go home or to the office and Google those names and B. Hussein Obama and the people I tell are amazed and comment how in the tank the media is for B.Hussein Obama and how the media has always hated the Clintons. How many times do you think the Republicans will mention Ayers and Rezko not to mention Mrs. B. Hussein Obama and how proud she is for the first time. I think we could lose all 50 states by the time it is over.

One last time for all to hear :
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ….EVER . !

I agree the country and the media has been sexist in their handling of the Hilary campaign. The media and the country have been walking on egg shells not to offend feminist. If Hilary had been a male she would have been handled in a much more aggressive manner. She has been cottled and pampered. She whines and complains when things don't go her way. As a woman I would like Hilary to have equal treatment. The DNC needs to step up to her and demand she quits. Hilary is damaging the party the party's presidential candidate and possibly this country's future for her own vanity.

Funny how when the candidate YOU want isn't cutting it then i9t's time to change the rules!

Please get a grip folks!

Hillary knew what the rules were and had no complaints when she thought she would be a "shoe in". Now she's is trying to fool the American people into believing somehow their votes don't count because she is not winning!

Again what about the CAUCUSES?

Remember she was whining on and on how unfair she thought they were as soon as she realized that Senator Obama was winning almost each and every one of them?

So now she wants us all to believe that the ONLY thing are votes and not caucuses?
So we must disregard states like Iowa?

Ok, then we need to have another vote in those places that had caucuses!

Come on! Don't you all see what Bill and Hillary are trying to do?

Actualy this is not funny...it's pathetic Hillary and Bill!

I have a feeling a number of people on this blog voted for Bush. Don't like Obama, vote for McCain. You deserve it.

Hilary is a hypocrite. She is soooo concerned that the voices of the people be heard in Michigan and Florida, however she does not want the caucus states to be counted! What about those voices. Those are three states in which she wants to ignore their votes

Last year at this time HRC was a shoe in for the nomination. Yet a year later she is loosing to an unknown politician. The reason she is loosing is because she fumbled and didn't recover. The unknown was able to capatilize on her failure and take the lead.

Now she wants to re-write the rule book. It doesn't really matter who wrote the rules what matters is that everyone knew the rules going into the game.

Her championing the re-vote was about as genuine as her "gas tax holiday". Just as she knew she couldn't deliver a "gas tax holiday", she also knew Obama wouldn't agree to her revote rules that only allowed the original voters to revote. It is a setup so she can say "what are you afraid of" and make it look like Obama didn't want the re-vote.

You are only kidding yourselves if you think anyone in this circumstance would be willing to agree to rules designed to make them loose. So HRC comes up with rules that benefit only her and then when Obama objects he becomes the bad guy.

Hillary is loosing only because of her poor decisions. She thought she didn't need to work for the nomination and Obama knew he did.

How is she more qualified to run this country if can't even beat an unknown politician?

The DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee determined in August, 2007 that the Florida vote wouldn't count and in December of 2007 that Michigan would not count either. That's because both state's democratic parities defied the DNC national edict not to move their primaries to an earlier date. By not campaigning in either state, the candidates agreed with the ruling. The republicans partially punished some of their state parties as well. End of story!

I live in OR, and my primary vote here for president counts MAYBE once in 100 years since its held in May. If we're going to honestly address the issue of primary votes counting the whole system should be changed.

Oregon had a mail-in primary. Florida, being a closed primary state could do the same without much effort, mailing ballots to all registered Dems. A little trickier, would be Michigan, being an open primary state. Maybe there is some way to track who voted in the Democratic primary and resend those folks and have a way to request a ballot for those so ticked they didn't even bother going. Of course, MI would have to have some kind of way to make sure voters did not already choose to vote in the Republican primary. It could be worked out. It would be costly, though probably less costly than orchestrating in-person voting throughout the states. And, it would be a worthwhile and true example of fairness in democracy to be witnessed around the world. Hey, we could actually correctly fix something we botched!

There is plenty of time between now and convention to get actual votes out of these two states and apportion delegates appropriately. Hopefully May 31st, the DNC leaders will finally wake up and embrace truth, justice, and the American way.

Has anyone explained to HRC that the number of votes do not matter? It is delegate count that matters. Wow, this just demonstrates how inept she would be at handling the presidency. She cannot even figure out how to run a succesful Democratic primary campaign.

Let's see...Hillary ONLY wants the primary votes to count and what about the CAUCUSES? I suppose those don't count...hmmmmm and neither does the delegate count...hmmm.

So self-serving! I won't be bamboozled! Not this time!

Please explain how Hillary intends to count the votes of Michigan where she was the only candidate on the ballot???

In some countries that's called a dictatorship. Touche Hillary.

Interesting a Lib states the will of the people, when do they ever do the will of the people, the people want us to drill in ANWAR, the people want lower taxes, they do not want 290 Billion dollars to go to Rich Farmers as the libs are passing that bill now!!

The will of the people huh, what hypocrits they are!!

Thinking | May 22, 2008 10:12:52 AM
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Maybe THEIR election was as devious as THIS one!

GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!

Hillary voters, ask yourself this - do you think your candidate would be demanding these votes count if Obama had won both states?

Be honest.

Don't give me that the people didn't choose tio have their primary moved. They elected the fools that did it. They are responsible for these people.

13 of the 28 members of the rules committe are Clinton Supporters, they made the rules. Now she is upset by them? Then she is upset with her own campaign.

And again, I say, where was all this outrage when this decision was made. Where was Senator Clinton's outrage that "millions of people" would be disenfranchised. If this isn't a perfect example of her self-serving behavior, I don't know what it is.

I actually do believe that the rules were created for a reason and the states need to abide by the rules. I also believe that we should count the votes in Florida and Michigan...in some fashion. Whatever the final desicion is, I will accept it. However, I won't accept this "perfectly timed" outrage by Clinton and her supporters. I mean, really...would we be hearing ANY of this if the race had ended on Super Tuesday as she thought that it would? Of course not...she is so desperate that it's pitiful...