Clinton Pledges Voting Rights to Puerto Rico, Too

Pander. Pander. Lie. Pander.

jake,
the last time i was on there was a story about the obama people saying
they needed bill clinton to help them win. what happened to that story?

or did you do just what the politico article said happens with stories?

tina from florida,
thanks,

I always thought this is the way the modern day media works.
i hope every thinking person will read the politico article from john harris

and be careful from here on out in your rush to judgement.

tina from florida,
thanks,

I always thought this is the way the modern day media works.
i hope every thinking person will read the politico article from john harris

and be careful from here on out in your rush to judgement.

      "Jeff: Not sure where you get your 1/3rd statistic from
      of those in favor of statehood in Puerto Rico but that
      number is far from a 3rd. The last referendum 46.8%
      voted for statehood vs 48.2% to remain a
      commonwealth...that's less than a 2% difference
      between the 2 and makes it almost half of the
      population wanting statehood..."
      Eddie | May 25, 2008 12:59:01 PM

That vote left off the third option, independence, which also has a following.  If they'd been given the three-way choice the numbers likely wouldn't have come out 48% to 46% to 3%

For those who complain, "Well, they don't pay federal income tax...blah blah blah!"...may I say something? It wasn't Guam who decided the tax code as it applies to Guam residents--it was Congress who made the rules and it is, in most cases, by fiat; that is, they dictate and usually don't consult.

Even now, 8 years into the 21st Century, Guamanians are still treated like colonial subjects rather than the Americans, U.S. citizenship and all, that they are. Other than in the party nomination process, they have NO say in national elections and little to no say in Congress. The prevailing attitude in Congress (and across America, apparently), is that Guamanians are just little pipsqueaks who can give up 1/3 of the land area in their 212-square-mile island for military and other federal facilities and send their sons and daughters to fight (and sometimes die in) America's wars, but when it comes to civic equality, they just blow them off like we're in the 1700's or something.

Can anyone please explain how Guamanians (and Puerto Ricans, et al) serve in the U.S. Armed Forces and sometimes pay the price of grievous injuries or even dying in the service of their country and NOT be able to vote for their Commander-in-Chief, the President of the United States???

Not that I would vote for her, but at least Hillary is on the right side on this one.

Frustrating, I tell ya.

Sincerely,

A retired U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant, originally from Guam

Can HRC embarrass herself anymore? Does she have no shame? How stupid does she think people are? She is an insult to my intelligence and she is a total JOKE! How can any sensible person take her seriously? She is beyond delusional and moving into the psychotic. Please can we make her go away to the paded room yet? I think she is qualified to wear a straight jacket now.

Our flag can stand to include territories becoming states AND having every right that each state has accorded to them.

I'm with HRC doing her best to past a constitutional amendment on this issue. I will hold my breath long enough to watch her press forward this agenda.

Don't forget the island of Wake. I hear Hil is polling very well with the hard-working gecko population.

MarkieBee

Maybe you're just not looking hard enough. I think you're only interested in half the truth if any at all. Co Arthur, indeed!

Hey Help Us...you do realize that Obama has 50 percent more elected legislative experience than Hillary right? His resume is just as impressive as Hillary's in effecting change. Yes, she's 15 years older but we can discount her six years of doing nothing while on the WalMart board. So her life experience lead is just nine years. Anyway, while in the US senate, Obama has AUTHORED and had signed into law two substantive bills (Obama-Lugar non-proliferation and Obama-Coburn ethics reform and transparency) while I have yet to see one substantive bill that Hillary has AUTHORED and passed in her eight years in the senate. Can you HELP US with that?

Puerto Rico is classified by the U.S. government as an independent taxation authority by mutual agreement with the U.S. Congress. A common misconception is that residents of Puerto Rico do not have to pay federal taxes. Residents of the island pay federal taxes (import/export taxes, federal commodity taxes, social security taxes, etc.) and some even pay federal income taxes (Puerto Rico residents who are federal employees, or who do business with the federal government, Puerto Rico-based corporations that intend to send funds to the U.S., etc). While most residents of the island do not pay federal income tax, they do pay federal payroll taxes (Social Security and Medicare), as well as Puerto Rico income taxes. In addition, because the cutoff point for income taxation is lower than that of the IRS code, and because the per-capita income in Puerto Rico is much lower than the average per-capita income on the mainland, more Puerto Rico residents pay income taxes to the local taxation authority than if the IRS code were applied to the island. Puerto Rico residents are eligible for Social Security benefits upon retirement. Puerto Rico is excluded from Supplemental Security Income (SSI). Puerto Rico receives less than 15% of the Medicaid funding it would be allotted as a state. For Medicare, Puerto Rico pays fully but only receives partial benefits

Is this why she's called a pander bear. And by the way, who needs the taxes?? For what? The right to vote for the lesser of evils? Big deal.

Hillary is making 'Promises' again.

Have the people of Puerto Rico requested additional voting rights or is this a manufactured controversy/demand ?

Hillary i voted for in NY because I wanted to see a female president but your lies and miss-speaks and then Terry blaming them on Obama has swayed me to think you are not the right person for the job if you will lie to us who support you what kind of president would you be ? A woman yes soon I hope but Obama now has my vote he has been honest and kind to you while you have attacked him unjustly..

Hillary I am not stupid the popular vote lie you have feed us who support you is the last straw….

The truth of the popular vote :

Popular Vote Total 16,685,941 49.1% 16,227,514 47.7% Obama +458,427 +1.4%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,020,025 49.1% 16,451,376 47.5% Obama +568,649 +1.6%

Popular Vote (w/FL) 17,262,155 48.3% 17,098,500 47.8% Obama +163,655 +0.5%

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,596,239 48.3% 17,322,362 47.6% Obama +273,877 +0.7%

for those that would like to argue the tax point in pr. the medicare and ss amounts to about 7.6%... a far cry from the income tax that we pay on top of that.

Hillary agreed to avoid defiant states last September, your point is mute.

the pr people do no want to pay taxes. they like it just the way that it is... no vote=no taxes.

And the pandering continues. Why would she raise this issue now at this juncture? As a senator from New york, she could have introduced a bill for this to happen. There are more Puerto Ricans in New York, than in PR. So, this new offering is just another pandering moment just to get votes.

Buford writes, "Sort of seems the same for Obama. His whole campaign is for "Hope" and "Change". Is it that he "hopes" we won't figure out what it is he wants to "change"?"
==================================

Considering Hillary's supporters are the LEAST educated of the groups voting I imagine MOST have had a difficult time figuring things out period.

It's pretty funny if you ask me. When she BEGAN her campaign she had the geriatric crowd, poor Whites, uneducated Whites and 40% of the African American vote in her pocket.

Low and behold, she CONTINUES because she still has geriatric Whites, poor Whites and uneducated Whites. Tell me something, since you've decided to challenge me on this, HOW EXACTLY did she lose the 40% Black vote she had when she started? Please tell me you're not one of those "idiots" who honestly believes Black voters woke up days later (unlike all those idiots who still things Obama is a Muslim) and said "Oh my gosh, he IS a Black man. I've got to change my vote now." Pure comedy at BEST.

Again...HOW DO YOU LOSE 40%? Sorry buddy, you have NO ARGUMENT and definitely NO WAY to challenge this. You have a good day. Ya' hear!