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Coates: "The Myth of the Black Racist Voter"

May 12, 2008 4:59 PM

My old Washington City Paper friend and colleague, Ta-Nehisi Coates, writes a thought-provoking essay disputing the "notion that black people voting for Barack in large margins is the equivalent (or on the scale of racism, arguably worse) of white people breaking for Hillary in similar margins."

For one, Coates writes, "Blacks have been voting for whites for president since they've gotten the vote. There is no question about black people's ability to vote for a white man for president. Even in cases when blacks have a so-called black leader in the actual race, they still--in crucial times--have voted for the white guy."

Read the whole thing HERE.

- jpt

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I think everyone now knows that whites are not racist. They make-up nearly 74% of the U.S. population. Blacks are 12%.
and Hispanics are 14%. Hispanics will not vote for Blacks, yet Obama continues his march torward the democratic nomination. That means the
majority of whites are voting for Obama.

Posted by: James | May 18, 2008 9:35:12 AM

Well, Mr. Coates: thanks for playing. But you've got a hard sale here.


When one group of voters is voting for a candidate you usually look at demographics: age, income, education, gender, geography---
African Americans of all ages, incomes, levels of education, gender and geography support Senator Obama---there's practically no other political example like it--and that leaves one criterion: RACE.
Lastly, for all the pundits that claim Clinton supporters are racists--maybe you should consider: BEFORE Rev. WRIGHT, Obama WAS pulling the white vote--After, ...not so much.

So, who is the racist? The ones who won't vote for someone who listened to hate speech--or the one who listened and SUPPORTED (to the tune of $22K) hate speec??.

Obama and Wright are the racists; not the people voting against him.

Posted by: JaySvenson | May 13, 2008 11:05:53 PM

Posted by: Ken: "I could see if Obama had completed 6 years in the senate but he only had 1 year completed before he announced. Would Kennedy or anyone else have endorsed a white candidate with 1 year experience in the senate. Obama is a myth."

Obama's time in the senate was spent recruiting corporate bundlers and billionaire fundraisers for his Presidential campaign. Some experience.

I do believe Kennedy and others would still have endorsed a white candidate with the same experience if they saw in him the same weakness they quickly identified in Senator Obama that would make him easier to manipulate.

Posted by: LindaJ | May 13, 2008 6:29:18 PM

Are you really Hillary supporters - yeah, millions of us will vote McCain because when people vote, it's not always for policy, because we all know so much of what is promised is never produced...whether it's gas tax, health care, quick exit Iraq, or whatever. AMERICANS VOTE WITH THEIR HEARTS AND HEADS AND PATRIOTISM first and foremost. Why would anyone be given this most important job without THEIR DESERVING IT?
I am a registered Republican, supporting Hillary, will vote McCain because she is being shut out of this race by the superdelegates.

Posted by: Debra | May 13, 2008 4:11:13 PM

I believe the reason many black people are supporting Obama is because he is someone who will represent their interests (i.e, Democrat) AND as a sense of pride in the accomplishment in someone of their own race. Being Italian American I see no difference in this than if I supported, for example, Mario Cuomo because I support his ideas AND I am proud of him as a fellow Italian-American. I also see this as no different as women voting for Hillary because they are proud of her as a woman. It is simply part of the dynamic of making a choice and I personally have no problem with it. On the other hand, I do have a problem with folks who state they will not vote for Obama because he is black, Hillary because she is a woman, or McCain because he is too old.

Posted by: indy_voter | May 13, 2008 3:37:38 PM

"Blacks have been voting for whites for president since they've gotten the vote. There is no question about black people's ability to vote for a white man for president."

That is true, but so what?

The issue is why are over 90% of Democratic black voters casting their ballots for Obama?

When the percentage goes over 90, its hard to argue that a particular demographic segment is voting based on race.

This is no more "racist" than 60 percent of lower and middle class whites rejecting Obama in favor of Hillary Clinton, and if "racism" was driving this vote, then one would expect to be a higher percentage of this demographic group going for Clinton. Moreover, it may simply be that Clinton better represents the hopes, dreams and asperations of this sub-group.

The constant rush to accuse Hillary Clinton and her supporters of playing the "race card"--but not the reverse when Obama's supporters racially pander--is troubling and unfair.

Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | May 13, 2008 2:45:39 PM

Doug - interesting point but if the White vote stays home or goes for McCain , Obama will be done, he can not win with only the Black vote!!

Posted by: spock | May 13, 2008 11:19:55 AM

Liberals have enslaved the Black man again - They do not allow freedom of their choice, if they do not vote Democrat then they criticized and attacked!

Definition of Racism in Politics - voting for someone because of their race is Racism no matter what!!

What other reason are they voting for Obama, he has no substance, no experience, is anti American and so forth.

Obama likes playing the Race Card!!

Posted by: spock | May 13, 2008 11:17:51 AM

Hillary has no one to blame for the "black" backlash but her own husband. He insulted the black vote with his ignorant comments in S.C. I guaranteed if he would have insulted another group in the same manner the result would be the same. Before S.C. Hillary WAS winning the black vote big time, so if blacks were voting based on racial idenity Obama would have carried the black vote from the very beginning, right? BTW blacks only make up 11% of the voting population but Obama leads in the popular vote and pledge delegate count, so this magnification of ethnic voting is a ploy by MSM to create another sensationalized story.

Posted by: Ericka | May 13, 2008 10:52:54 AM

all the people who say the Black vote is not racist are either too blind to see the truth or are fooling themselves...I am tired of this coward country.....when a white man support another white person, you guys called him racist , but when a black person support another Black man simply because of his SAME SKIN color , somehow THAT is NOT racist???? Come on , the Heck with this double standard politically correct stuffs of the Ultra-Liberal crowd... this is America , have the courage to call RACISM for what it is ...If black people do not want to be discriminated against ,if they want to be respected , they need to have the courage to Call RACISM when they see it ....Spin it all you want , but the numbers speak for itself....How could it be that the Clintons , who has always been touted by the majority of the Black community as ones who have done good things for the Black community failed to garner even 10% of the BLACK votes ???? Do you think this could ever be possible if their opponent is someone who have the same qualities as Obama but DIFFERENT SKIN COLOR ???? Answer the Question truthfully and you will see...If any other ethnic group with the same talents as Obama and is not black , the Clintons will definitely get at least 50% of the votes ( from those whose may not be inspired by their speeches but at least remember the good they done in the past )...If Obama is not black , Does anyone honestly think that he can get over 90% of the BLack votes ???? We are not short of inspiring men in the history of this country , but anyone care to tell me of another candidate who has got that much vote from one ethnic group???? ....Plus ..why is it that only Blacks see that much good in Obama (over 90%) and nobody else does?????.... the truth is , we sometimes truly have inspiring candidate that have the ability to cross over racial barrier , over gender barrier , over class barrier...and no doubt such a candidate will inspire people from different background to vote for him , but the vote although in the majority , will not be over 75 % of the total from that group ...why??because as human beings, we do not always think alike ,so if judging on purely qualities and issues , it is natural that a portion of us will disagree with the other , UNLESS , people vote not on qualities and issues but on COLOR OF THE SKIN then we will see this kind of lopsided support , why , because in such case , people are blind , they do not think in such case....that is why the black people sufferred greatly back then , because back then , they were mostly judged by their skin color and thus be discriminated against ....Too bad....Now it is their turn to apply it to someone else , although in less violent form , it is still racism because just like what it was then , now ,the judgement is still based primarily in the color of the skin.....I have to give the white people credit , they have come a loooong way ...In some state , Obama got as much as 60% of the white vote...ofcourse there are people who see the inspiration in him, but to say that in all the places that they campaigned , less than 10% of the blacks see anything good in what the Clintons saying ( despite their achievements in the past ) is JUST DEFIED LOGIC .....If it quacks like a Duck, walks like a Duck , swims like a duck...it must be a duck..... the one who cry wolf IS NOT ALWAYS the victim ....I hope the black people see this soon enough......God helps America...

Posted by: alohaone | May 13, 2008 7:25:07 AM

Posted by: jld1959 | May 13, 2008 5:44:18 AM

actually, about half the dems do agree with me, and, by the way, i am as important as you and everyone else...one vote...

Posted by: rrt | May 13, 2008 7:24:46 AM

re: rtt

I have the distict impression that you are not for Sen Obama. That is your right to have your opinions. However be clear in your motivations and reasons for not supporting Sen Obama. Thankfully most Americans do not share your unjust views, and will not be swayed by the divisive politics that you aspire to. When you stop feeling bitter and hatefull, then you will have hope. Also don't take yourself to serious, you are not that important!

Obama 08

Posted by: jld1959 | May 13, 2008 5:44:18 AM

Who guess here, that coctail party under that sniper fire is kind of experience, that matters?

In fact - she does not have ANY other.
Except her age and menapause stage.

oh, also plus lawsuit , that waits until after she will finish this election circus.

Posted by: Linda, Fl | May 13, 2008 5:42:52 AM

Posted by: jld1959 | May 13, 2008 4:31:43 AM

nice sntiments, but 90% of a voting do not vote the same way because they analyzed a situation and all made the same decision. if you look at many of the exit polls, a whole bunch of blacks said they voted bho because he was black.
is he the best man for the job...no way. he has no experience except a stint in the state senate and 3 years in the us senate, 1 1/2 in which he has been running for president. he is chairman of a committee he has NEVER convened. he votes "present" instead of taking a stand on an issue. he has very questionable ties with radicals and known terrorists: wright, rezko, auchi,el-hady, ayers/dorhn, etc..
the list goes on. all he is able to do is talk a good game and apparently, instill hope.
well hope is a feeling, not action.

Posted by: rrt | May 13, 2008 4:46:24 AM

Less than 10% of the votes nationwide were from black voters, and they are not a majority of voters in any state or territory. That means the other 90% is from voters of different ethnicity and cultures. Barrack Obama is receiving votes from Americans of all races, religion and genders. Blacks have traditionally voted heavily for Democratthe past decades, also in the same percental as they are voting for Obama. I think the Black voters are also enthused be Sen Obama's message of Change, We are enthused that perhaps America will get a little closer to it's creed. One in which the ideas of Life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness is guaranteed for every American. We are very concerned about the issues of Healthcare reform, Energy,
Enviroment, trade defecit, ending the war in Iraq and foreign policy among a host of other issues. Yes, there is pride in the fact that maybe America is ready to allow everyone of it's citizens the honor to serve in the nattions highest office. He is winning the nomination because he is the right man, to place America back on the road to prosperity and not because he is half black. Life is not alwaays black and white!

Posted by: jld1959 | May 13, 2008 4:31:43 AM

Its our country that made Obama a blackman. In the U.S if you have only 4% black blood, you are a black man. No where in the World would you find such. The whites will call you black and the blacks will say you aint black enough as if it is a crime for your heitage to be mixed. Until we purge ourselves, there will always be a tinge of color in the way we see things. There may never be justice without prejudice.

Posted by: vinny | May 13, 2008 1:55:41 AM

"We are the party of the people, the coal miner, the waitress, the truck driver. We don't need any elitists in our party. Therefore I am going to loan my campaign another 6.4 million in addition to the 5 million I've already lent them. After all, this is supposed to be the party of the working man and woman"

Posted by: rhbate | May 13, 2008 12:36:24 AM

Ok. Once John McCain becomes President of the United States I'm wondering how as a nation will deal the war.

It's apparent that Obama cannot win the GE because Hillary supporters will defect from the DNC (not vote) or worse vote for McCain. So this means business as usual. Are we ready to remain in Iraq (see below) This is from John McCains website.

"A greater military commitment now is necessary if we are to achieve long-term success in Iraq. John McCain agrees with retired Army General Jack Keane that there are simply not enough American forces in Iraq. More troops are necessary to clear and hold insurgent strongholds; to provide security for rebuilding local institutions and economies; to halt sectarian violence in Baghdad and disarm Sunni and Shia militias; to dismantle al Qaeda; to train the Iraqi Army; and to embed American personnel in Iraqi police units. Accomplishing each of these goals will require more troops and is a crucial prerequisite for needed economic and political development in the country. America's ultimate strategy is to give Iraqis the capabilities to govern and secure their own country." I guess we stay.

My next concern is Sen. McCains health care plan. $2500.00 tax credit for single people and $$5000.00 for families. My only concern is the average health care policy costs about $12,000.00. So after receiving the tax cut you have to come up with the rest. This only applies to the 50 million people who don't have coverage.

Nothing changes for me, how about you?


Posted by: ginger | May 12, 2008 11:18:28 PM

Clinton was guiltless if only because he's been a politician for decades.... and he has never been called dumb!

Think about it!

The only one benefitted from racism has been Obama.

And speaking o him:

How come he was always too busy to honor either the birth and/or the death of Martin Luther King?

The Clintons were able to make the ceremonies both times, and I think Mccain was there as well.

And how come he "dissed" Tavis Smiley's special show? Hillary managed to show up for that one, too.

How come he took money from Rezko which had been earmarked to pay the heating bills for Obama's constituents during Chicago's Frigid winters/

How come, when it came to his pastor who was supposedly like an uncle to him
B O rescued him while throwing his grandmother under the bus in the "flag_race speech"... and then threw him under the bus with his typical white grandma who was afraid of black men in the other?

Is he really that two-faced? Did he pull those stunts solely for the publicity?

Is he really a namby pamby whiner?

I can see you wanting to have a black man for president. And one day that will happen.

But when we DO get a black male Hillary he'll be someone EVERYONE will want because not only will he be the color of YOUR choice, but he will also be the
sharpest, ablest, most patriotic champion native son our country will have.

As for now, my vote goes to Hillary.
She can do the best job for our country at this time.

I approve of this message!

Posted by: eyes wide open | May 12, 2008 11:15:36 PM

WEST VIRGINIA AND KENTUCKY

THE TARNISHED PRESS has proven that it's broken.

Although this race is far from over, the media has been playing "taps" for HIllary ever since B O won North Carolina last week.

They choose not to remember that on that very same day, Hillary won Indiana, and that the week before, Hillary won Pennsylvania!

They choose not to tell you that 31,000 votes "FOR OBAMA" were Double counted in North Carolina.... not that it would have made a difference.

They choose not to tell you that 92 percent of black voters pledged for B O in North Carolina... or that 91 percent of black voters in Philadelphia followed the same pattern.

They don't want this to be played up because Obama's followers feel that telling the truth.... is racist.

But it IS appropriate to talk about the little blue dress and sling noxious. venomous off*topics slander at Hillary whenever they want because what THEY'RE doing... is not racist.... just cruel, arrogant, childish.

We all know that Hillary is the better, more seasoned, wiser candidate.

We have watched during the early debates how Obama's plans always mimicked hers. We have watched during the last debate, as Obama, with no one to imitate,appeared literally to be without words!

Hillary, as usual was unflustered and incredible in the depth and knowledge of her reponses.

The press disremembers too many of her achievements.... like procuring health care for 6,000,000 children.

Like bringing to the table a truly UNIVERSAL health care package which even Mrs. John Edwards has praised.

Don't let the brash Barack and the myopic media win.


Hillary needs your help!

She needs your vote!

She won't let you down.

Please don't let HER down!

Thank you, and G-d Bless!


Posted by: eyes wide open | May 12, 2008 10:50:41 PM

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