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Conference Call from Planet Clinton

May 07, 2008 10:59 AM

On a conference call just now, the Clinton campaign explained how they see the world this Wednesday morning.

Any discussions about Sen. Hillary Clinton dropping out?

"No," declared Clinton campaign communications director Howard Wolfson. "No discussions."

Senior strategist Geoff Garin called Sen. Hillary Clinton's narrow victory in Indiana "a close outcome but an outcome about which we feel very, very good." He said it was "he first time in this race that Sen. Clinton has come from behind to achieve a primary victory."

"These are two states we were supposed to lose," Wolfson said of Indiana and North Carolina.

Wolfson said the additional $6.425 million Clinton loaned herself in the last month -- disclosed this morning -- was not an indication that her fundraising has lagged, but rather that she is just trying to stay competitive with Sen. Barack Obama's record-setting fundraising.

The loans, Wolfson said, indicate "Senator Clinton's commitment to the race and a commitment to being competitive with Senator Obama."

Sen. Clinton's total $11.425 million in loans to her campaign have now exceeded the $10 million she earned for her book -- Clinton had made a point of saying her January $5 million was her money.  So is she not now loaning herself money her husband has earned?

"I dispute the notion that there is a difference between her share of her joint assets and her own money," said Wolfson.. "There is no distrinction between her share of their joint assets and her money. Her money is their share of her joint assets."

Wolfson pointed out that "legally she is entitled to use up to 50% of their joint assets if she chooses….We are scrupulously following the rules."

He added, "I don’t rule out that she will loan the campaign additional resources."

Asked about the fact that pundits have declared the Democratic nominating race to be over -- and how that might influence superdelegates -- the Clinton campaign pooh-poohed and pish-poshed.

"Thankfully for us the punditocracy does not control the nominating process, voters do," said Wolfson.

Wolfson said that "obviously superdelegates watch TV, they read the newspaper...but in the end I think they are more influenced by electoral outcomes...and arguments about who would be the stronger nominee in November."

Clinton will be stopping by West Virginia for an event this afternoon -- the state holds its primary on Tuesday -- after which she will be meeting with uncommitted superdelegates later in the afternoon on the Hill. "The goal is to make the case to the superdelegates that Sen. Clinton would be the best nominee," Wolfson said.

The Clinton campaign, which has recently taken a more aggressive position about seating the disputed delegates from Michigan and Florida, conceded that even if those two delegations are seated in full -- which is quite unlikely to happen -- Clinton will still lag behind Sen. Obama in total delegates.

"If Michigan and Florida are seated fully we estimate we would pick up 58 delegates," said deputy communications dircetor Phil Singer, "putting us within a margin of less than 100 total delegates separating Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton."

But still behind.

-jpt

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It is amazing some are so excited about NC primary.

What do you expect when Uncle Wright claims
"You are attacking black chuch"
This is BARELY public call on purpose
"You are not black enough"
For that, Uncle Wright deserves VP spot.

The primary SO FAR LEFT is
"The Emperor''s New Clothes"

Let us wait and laugh at end.

Posted by: jy2008 | May 8, 2008 4:54:11 PM

Hi Mary!!

I'm totallt in agreement with you, Obama did not have the experience Hillary has had to be President, and these people have went wild , over his looks, skin color, and the way he sound, but not based on the issues of any substance or real solid solutions to his message, like you said talk is cheap, any good motivational speaker can be President if that's all it take to get people all stirred-up to vote for him or her to be Commander and Chief, it shows you how shallow and gullible and brainwashable people can be., I beieve our party is making a huge mistake by making this inexperienced man our nominee.

I would like for you to Jim and me on spreading the word on all the political blogs on the Internet to encourage Hillary to run as an Independent and run right down the middle against Obama and McCain since the Demcratic Party and it's voters insist on throwing her under the bus for an inexperienced "Johnny Come Lately" who's feeding them a lot of crap for personal and political gain.

I don't want Hillary in any way help unite this party or work with Obama to help him get elected, because he really does not deserve this position, let the Obama folks whoo and haa over him, let strong Hillary supporters like you and I work to persuade Hillary to run as an Independent, this will also help block Obama's Presidency and teach the Democratic Party not to get behind a inexperienced candidate to run against the Rupublican Machine ever again. Obama is not to be trusted, and we should try other avenues to get Hillary elected while also trying to block Obama's and the Democratic Party's chances of getting back the White House, they don't deserve it either if they're going to make a poor and irresponsible decision as this to make a man that just come on the national scene with an eloquent speaking voice preaching hope and change, he's not different than any other political and people are sweating this man like he's the Great White Hope, what a shame,and misfortune.

All Strong Hillary Supporters need to concentrate more on trying to elect an experienced candidate like Hillary in office to try and turn this country in the right dirction, because Obama does not have the experience or know-how to accomplish such a difficult and challenging task, talk is cheap, Obama have no real solutions or plan with any substance to put this country on the rright track, you can tell that by what he say's on the campaign trail and in former debates with Hillary, Obama is too scared and chicken to debate Hillary anymore, what a whuss, I really don't want a President who is too scared to debate a woman anytime anywhere, if he was so sure of himself, he would be a man and step up to the plate and meet Hillary's challenge anytime she asks, Obama is not a fighter, he want's things handed to him, he feels all he has to do is wave his magic voice and people should snap to attention and follow him, I can imagine how he's going to act if he had a chance to to talk with foreign digniteries, it would be a disater, he claims that we must talk with our friends and foes as well, well he could not prove that by me, if things don't go Obama's way, he whines, complains, and withdraw's into a shell like a baby and cries racism or the moderaters was not fair, he did not say that when the moderaters where vetting Hillary, and Hillary did not act like him either, she roled with the punches and took her lases like and adult, not cry whine and complain like Obama did, Obama did this to get his misguided followers who fall for anything to feel sorry for him, well, if Obama can't handle the heat now, he's really going to boil over after the Republican Swiftboat Machine get through with him, Obama's going to have a hissy fight, who he's going to blame for his weaknesses then?

So Mary, please work with Jim and I and pass the word to all fellow strong Hillary Supporters throughout all the blogs and send letters to Hillary to encourage her not to back Obama or this Party and try and get her to run as an Independent if she fails to capture the nomination, let the Obama supporters on their own try an get inexperienced Obama elected, while we work on our end trying to get Hillary to run against the Democratic Party, Obama, and McCain for the Presidency, Hillary his enough supporters who would follow and support her as an Independent candidate.

Go Hillary!! This Black American is behind you all the way.

Posted by: In response To Mary From DarrellP | May 8, 2008 8:52:24 AM

I find it fairly interesting that with all the support of Hillary Clinton - not one supporter has indicated that ethics, integrity and plain old honesty are necessary to lead this nation. Since Truman and Ike we have seen a steady disintegration of values and moral fibre in our leaders. As an expat living in Australia, I am consistently asked why our election process is so long and why are we willing to put up with the muck racking and denigration.

I kind of wonder how all of the Clintonites can support someone who lied about her daughter running around the world trade center on 9/11 and having to duck into a Starbucks to avoid being hit by debris. You really want this type of person leading the nation? And her daughter never denies it publicly, even though she knows she was at a friends home in bed across the city at the time.

Truly sad that "rational" Democrats do not get the full picture. By the way, just what is the Democratic Leadership Conference? And what does Hillary and Bill have to do with it?

Posted by: MizuInOz | May 8, 2008 7:59:19 AM

No way obama will win in November. I don't want a united ticket with him and Hillary either. I'm sick of even hearing his name.

He has barely any experience, he served how many days in the senate?. Would you hire a carpenter without any experience to build you a house?

Well, I'm not voting for a guy who is full of speeches. Talk is cheap, he's never walked the walk.

Posted by: Mary | May 8, 2008 2:20:15 AM

jim, that is a great idea,
I an a hillary volunteer, i will go to the web site, and post a note on
hillaryhub. this is the site they ask for comments.
I think if she pulls out from the dems now. she might just have a chance.
she will beat obama and mccain.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008 9:56:24 PM

I know everyone is going say "sourgrapes", but politicaly speaking I think Hillary could win running straight down the middle. She has a campaign staff and supporters who would back her, not all, but most. I think it is a viable idea, but she would have to decide relativly soon to gear up. Then she would represent the only true "independent" chance to "change" this country. No party alliance to influence the decision making, a true bipartisn cabinet. I hope Hillary at least explores the idea.

Posted by: Jim | May 7, 2008 9:48:35 PM

yES DARELLP! Let's do it! Spread the word people! Hillary all the way!

Posted by: irma | May 7, 2008 9:35:55 PM

Hillary knew the democratic nomination process, all about the superdelegates, all about the fact that the votes in Florida & Michigan weren't going to be counted and said nothing. Why didn't she speak up then if she had issues, only now that her coronation isn't going as she planned does she mention it. Is that what qualifies her for the presidency, her ablity to speak up after the fact.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008 9:30:16 PM

Darrellp...Thanks...I have a big enough checkbook to help Hillary out if she decides to go it as an independent. It would be a big step to take but your right about what happens if either Obama or McCain get into office.

Posted by: Jim | May 7, 2008 9:22:31 PM

Jim--- Great Idea!

She might as well because many/most of her followers will NOT switch to OBama.


I think they're much too anti-Auchi and Khalidi and Farrakhan and Dohrn and Rezko..... and that other "Agent of Change" Raila Odinga to march in BO;s parade!

I blame the media for a lot of this.... but the DNC is fatally fractured; I don't think it's capable of being glued together anymore.

It's run by cretins with heads so big that they think they're more powerful than the constitution!

They can think what they want, but our country should always be more important that the DNC,

For that reason, should Hillary become unavailable as a candidate, I would have no choice but to switch my vote to McCain ,,, unless she should hook up with another party!

Posted by: eyes wide open | May 7, 2008 9:19:21 PM

What the Democratic Party has done and are doing to the Clintons is shameful. The superdelegates were put into place for just this type of situation: to make sure the Party puts up the best person to challenge the opponent. The Party votes are split almost 50-50. The supers are saying they can't do their job because they can't take the nomination away from the African-American and the Black supporters of his candidacy? Not all Blacks support Obama. What about the half of the Party that supports Clinton? What about former Obama supporters that have changed their minds? What about voters in Florida and Michigan? For the Democratic Party to ignore the fact that Hillary Clinton is the most seasoned and vetted candidate, that Hillary Clinton has served her Party well for 30 plus years, that Hillary Clinton has a very limited number of years left to endure the rigors of the Presidency, that she is the candidate who can best stand up to John McCain in November, that Hillary Clinton has as much if not more of the voters behind her, then the Democrativc Party is stupid. I will not vote for Obama, the face of inexperience and unanswered questions.

Posted by: mpwdc | May 7, 2008 9:18:13 PM

i believe the dems are realizing what a mess they have brewing in the fall.
the clintons have been very good for the dem. party. the dem. party has done the clinton' wrong.
but you are right I hope after this obama will not expect to use sen. clinton' brilliant mind to help him win the white house.
she is better than he is. and she should not be expected to help his dumb studdering, fumbling, stammering butt.
he cannot think on his feet. he cannot answer questions off the cuff.
he will be the black geo bush. the only difference is-half of the country will not like his wife, either.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008 9:17:29 PM

Jim, I think that sounds great, since the Democratic Party Leadership and it's voters threw Hillary under the bus for an inexperienced candidate, Obama, I believe Hillary should run as an Independent and take her supporters like me and you with her and run against Obama and McCain, I love your idea, maybe we and other Hillary supporters should work together to persuade Hillary to do this, since this party hates her so much, this would surely block Obama's Presidency, which I believe should happen, because Obama is not prepared to effectively run this country, and should be the one to step down, a lot of Obama's earlier votes where Republican cross-overs to try and make it easier for McCain to win the nomination, these same voters will go back to party lines and vote for McCain in the general election causing the Democratic Party to lose once again to the Republican Swiftboat Machine, I will just sit back and laugh because the party and it's voters would have gotten what they desevered to taking the risk on an inexperienced candidate like Obama.

Posted by: In response to Jim from DarrellP | May 7, 2008 9:14:03 PM

Why would Hillary want to be VP? So they can blame her for all of Obama's mistakes?

Write in "HILLARY CLINTON" in November

Posted by: mpwdc | May 7, 2008 9:01:59 PM

jbate,
i don't know what you are talking about,
you cannot be responding to one of my comments with what you are saying.
and i have never posted anywhere except here. on political punch.
go back and read
and I have been black for 53 years.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008 9:01:47 PM

Yes, I hope Hillary does not ask to campaign for Obama, and I hope Obama does not ask Hillary to campaign for him, I want no parts of this party if Obama becomes the nominee, I will be voting for Hillary as an Write-in candidate or stay home, or may even vote for Ralph Nader to try and block Obama's Presidency, Obama is not the right Black candidate to run this country, I want a Black Man or Woman to be President one day, but Obama is just not prepared enough for the job yet, being a good speech maker does not equate to being Presiedential material, and I'm not going to help unite this traitor party behind a green inexperienced Presidential candidate like Obama, it does not make any sense to me at all to take a risk on such a person when this country needs someone with a little more experience and qualififcations to try and turn this country around, Obama is just not the one for this day and time.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008 9:01:03 PM

jbate, and fool me once,
i think obama should just let the clintons go on. and not let them campaign for him in the fall.
i think the dem. party will approve of this.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008 8:54:14 PM

Alot of the Obama supporters on here don't want Hillary to help Obama's campaign in the fall. I couldn't agree more, and I guess they don't want the support of any of Hillary's supporters, once again I agree. It is becoming apparent that the DNC is not that in love with Hillary being in "their" party, she does not fit into "their" plans for what the Party should look like or think like, again I couldn't agree more. I think Hillary should suspend her campaign and take some time and consider running as an Independent. Hillary can be applicable for federal funding and she still has her base to draw support from. Run straight down the middle, Obama on the "left" and McCain on the "right". I think a independent, female president would be the biggest "change" in this country has ever seen. How does that sound to all of you?

Posted by: Jim | May 7, 2008 8:54:11 PM

How are democratic leaders making a mistake by following the voice of the voters. Hillary is being voted out of the election process, it's that simple. Also there is already a movement out there and it's moving away from the Clintons toward a new message with a new messenger.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008 8:51:23 PM

I was a true Democrat until the party threw an experienced Senator, Hillary under the bus for a Johnny Come Lately Senator, Obama smooth talking his way to the nomination, we know nothing about this man and what he's really all about or stands for, but just because he looks and sounds good people go running after him like he's the great White Hope.

Well, this Black American is not falling for his deception, and when this man messes this country up even more due to his lack of experience, don't cry Impreachment, because you could have prevented this by voting for a candidate who had a little more experience and qualifications to effectively do the job, you get what asked for, so don't complain he does not live up to your expectations, be qutie and roll with the punches, you got what you deserved, maybe the Obama supporters will think about the cost before they vote for a knight and shinning inexperienced Armour riding into town deceptively preaching hope and change, I don't trust the man, he should have been vetted even more than Hillary since he was the new kid on the block, but instead, Obama was cuddled and protected by the gender-biased media like a little bitty baby, I personally believe this happened, because this country is not truly ready for a Woman President, there's still a glass ceiling that still exist when it comes to a woman trying to be President, the voters would rather have an inexperienced male over an experienced female as President, this is pitiful and down right a disgrace, woman are good enough to have the male President, but not be President herself, this shows and tells me how far this country his came when it comes to women seeking the highest office in the land.

Obama, as a Black inexperienced President would be in a lot of Congress-person hip pocket, he would own them a lot for allowing him to be President, they would run him into the ground,because he would owe a lot of favors to Kennedy, Kerry, Clyburn, and others for their endorsement, Obama would be a brought and paid for President, and if Obama does not do what they say, they would start calling for his Impeachment, calling Obama too inexperienced to continue holding the office of the Presidency, this could all be avoided by putting an experienced candidate forward to challenge McCain for the Presidency, Hillary is better perpared to beat McCain and run the office of the Presidency over Obama, someting new is not always good for you, Obama should not be trusted or taken the risk on turn run this country.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008 8:42:44 PM

Yes -- the democratic leaders are making a huge mistake. Hillary should be the nominee and if she is not I intend to vote mccain.

Posted by: jr | May 7, 2008 8:40:03 PM

Yes -- the democratic leaders are making a huge mistake. Hillary should be the nominee and if she is not I intend to vote mccain.

Posted by: jr | May 7, 2008 8:40:00 PM

Clinton supporters of which I am one; do not be misguided by the Republicans pretending to be on our side and encouraging us to vote for McCain. I, a life long Democrat, will be changing my party affiliation to Independent. The reason being I do not feel that the Democratic Party is representative of US, the long term Democrats who believe and fought for Civil Rights, who experienced the rip off elections of Gore and Kerry and who now support Hillary Clinton. I have volunteered throughout the years driving to other states and staying in Hotels to help where ever I was needed at my own expense. I also have donated heavily throughout the years. What I have seen done to Hillary Clinton in the media is a great injustice. I have only a masters in History; however my passion for the subject has been deep since childhood. I have experienced racism, poverty and hunger. I have also experienced great devotion from teachers and others enabling me to become educated beyond my family’s hopes and dreams. I know that this country and its Constitution is not great solely because of leaders or events, but because of the People and the Power of Protest. It is what I teach my students every year! I am not abandoning the Democratic Party; I am leaving a party that has contributed to the great injustice we are witnessing against Hillary Clinton, the most intelligent, policy savvy candidate. It is the Democratic Party that has abandoned US for a novice because of the "forces that be" who want to anoint him within our party against the wishes of the loyal Dem base. I owe this party nothing! I owe the New Democrats for Obama absolutely NOTHING! I definitely owe Obama absolutely NOTHING! I will vote for Hillary Clinton alone, hopefully through a new THIRD PARTY. I encourage a split with the Democratic Party because it will be a ROARING PROTEST THAT THEY WILL FEEL. I will NEVER vote Republican!

Posted by: irma | May 7, 2008 8:27:42 PM

Congradulations for coming out to vote against Obama as an informed citizen. But reality chk, even more informed citizens came out to vote for him. Sorry.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008 8:18:14 PM

Do not blame The Clintons. Democrate created superdelegates. Hillary was tireless for Campaign. We are proud of you and she is a woman.

McCain will be die in general election, get sick. I don't know how HRC & Bo is not enough sleep.

Hillary, we love you

Posted by: indo45 | May 7, 2008 8:17:51 PM

I say, obama should not let hillary or bill campaign for him in the fall.
she should just go back to work in the senate.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008 8:12:35 PM

i have been reading black agenda all along. it is to bad other black people were not in tuned to it.
half of this country did not like geo. bush.
now half of this country will not like the president or his wife.
my black people really didn;t have their eyes on what the real prize is for them in the future.

Posted by: jgaw | May 7, 2008 7:48:47 PM

outsor2
I am with you, I think for the good of the party she should just concede and go back to the senate and get on with her work.
I hope obama will not ask her or bill to campaign in the fall for him.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008 7:39:56 PM

Congratulations to Senator Obama for staying the high ground after all the personal attacks...well done! Senator Clinton, show some grace for a change and think of your party.

Posted by: outsourced2 | May 7, 2008 7:35:29 PM

My North Carolina...a state of denial.

You can pull your head out of the sand now-Obama won. You bought his lies.

I won't leave the state I love, so I will vote for McCain.

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 7, 2008 7:27:36 PM

I hope obama will refuse Hillary's support in the ge.
I hope he will not want her to campaign for him.
she can just go back to work in the senate.

Posted by: justsaying | May 7, 2008 7:26:24 PM

Hillary needs to stop acting like a spoiled brat now and step down after Obama's huge NC win. Its over! The Super Delegates are leaving her camp to support Obama daily and urging her to step down for the sake of the Democrat party. If she continues to drag this out and hurt the party she will not be popular enough to be re-elected to the Senate... much less dog catcher!

Posted by: outsourced2 | May 7, 2008 7:17:51 PM

Give it up already. You are starting to look like a joke, Hillary.

Posted by: AG | May 7, 2008 7:12:14 PM

I have enough sense not vote for a candidate based on race or gender, but on the issues, because in reality my race people have a tendency to stab each other in the back, just because Obama iis Black or mixed race does not mean he going to be their for our race of people, he's proven that by not showing up to the State of The Black Union hosted by Tavis Smiley or Katrina, Obama hides from issues that negativley affect the Black race exspecially poor and middle class Blacks and Whites, he looks down on them, he thinks he better than people who don't have the wealth he has. So as an Black American he does not represent or speak for me, but for his rich well to do Black and Whites circles.

Posted by: In response to Sick and Tired From DarrellP | May 7, 2008 7:04:45 PM

Sorry, but when Hillary repeated her landing in Bosnia under sniper fire fantasy on several different occasions when she actually was greeted by a small girl with flowers, that was a bold faced lie. The person who we elect commander in chief and could possibly need have to send our troops to war needs to be able to tell the difference.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008 6:49:07 PM

I think the democratic party is going to be divided if don't figure out who is going to be the president and yes obama does not speak for all of us.. thank u very much

Posted by: Utah SEO | May 7, 2008 6:46:04 PM

fool me once said: "I didn't say Obama is a saint, no person and certainly no politician is."

OK, then refrain from calling Clinton a "Boldfaced Liar". I didn't realize that you acknowledged Obama's lies.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008 6:30:29 PM

I agree with Rachel Madow from MSNBC comment.... "if I were Mrs.Clinton, I will tell superdelagates just wait.."

The longer she stay the more we know aobaut Rev.Wright, Rezko, Bill Ayers...and...and..etc.

Obama will be lost againts Mc.Cain. Most states he won will be going to Repbulican, espceiall as they know about Rev.Wright. Obama won more caucuses than primary. In general election there is no caucus.

Posted by: Gee | May 7, 2008 6:26:03 PM

Obama/Gore '08.

Paul.

Posted by: Paul M. | May 7, 2008 6:19:32 PM

The folks on these boards that say they will not vote for Barack if he gets the nomination are not true Democrats. I bet you all the money I donated to Edwards and later Obama that they all voted for George Bush. Let them go support McSame. He is going to need it since 25% of his party did not even vote for him when he is already the nominee. Boo-Ya.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008 6:16:15 PM

Liberal medias start talking about Rev. Haggy because they thoguht race is over and Obama is the nominee since the math say so....... this is why is the best Mrs.Clinton don't quit, the more liberal medias mention about Rev.Haggy, the right wing will talk more about Re.Wright, so the more we know Obama's crap.

Keep going Hillary 08!

Posted by: pulang | May 7, 2008 6:04:02 PM

I agree completely FoolMeOnce.

Posted by: washingtonian | May 7, 2008 5:59:38 PM

I didn't say Obama is a saint, no person and certainly no politician is. The fact is that most all these distractions are by people who were never going to vote for Obama and are doing their best to convince others to do the same. Sorry you hitched your wagon to a lame horse stuck in the mud and now can't do anything but sling it.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008 5:52:19 PM

With Hillary Clinton's bad Math skills, how can anyone expect her to solve problems with the economy.

She clearly doesn't know what majority of popular votes means...since she keeps claiming she has it and everyone knows she doesn't.

Then there is the fact that even with over 20 years of name recognition she still had to run her campaign into debt, as well as fund out of pocket just to be a competitive candidate. ouch.

Clinton and her supporters are in serious denial.

Posted by: washingtonian | May 7, 2008 5:40:07 PM

I am an independent. The democrates do have a formula to secure 16 years of reign of the White House, which is 8 years of HRC followed by 8 years of BHO. BHO as VP mentored by HRC will prepare him to be a great President of the US ( but will be a tough 8 years for anyone working directly under HRC). To heal the wounds of racism, it is not enough for BHO just to make it to the White House. He has to achieve greatness in his Presidency that is at least at par with, if not better than, all the great Presidents in the US history. BHO, inexperienced and with poor judgment shown by his pastor, is not ready for healing the racial wounds even he is elected. He might make blunders as a President. He has a fast learning curve, but he cannot really start a Presidential learning process until he is in the White House.

Anyway, I think that this formula can only exist in theory. In practice, the next Presidency is likely going to JM if BHO is nominated this year as expected. JM probably will use his one term, because of his age, to make difficult but important changes for this nation. As for HRC, she might or might not come back in 2012. God bless America!

Posted by: capri | May 7, 2008 5:39:42 PM

Hmmm...Obama won the state of Iowa and it is 92% White. What does that make the overwhelming white folks who voted for Obama? Are they racist?

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008 5:25:10 PM

fool me once said "supporters of a bold faced liar"

Why are Obama supporters completely delusional about the purity of their candidate? Where do I start with the Obama lies and misrepresentations?? Iraq voting record (truth - he has said he doesn't know how he would have voted in 2002), nuclear legistion scandal, "won't run for pres in '08", "never heard Wright say those things" "I heard Wright say those things", length and extent of friendshipo with Rezko, running ads in Florida before primary, false ads about Clinton health care plan. Your candidate is not pure. Just ask anyone in Chicago (who isn't afraid to talk about how he got credit for state senate legislation, how he actually won that seat playing Chicago politics, etc, etc, etc

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008 5:18:25 PM

It's downright undemocratic to tell Clinton to drop out when she actually got 48.7% of the total votes (not counting Florida and Michigan). I think it's hypocritical to force the Democrats to support a flawed and feeble candidate who will go on to lose the general election. Obama cannot win with his base of AAs and old liberals. And then there are the impressionable college kids that he and his minions sign up before they have time to blink and then truck over to the voting booth. As the race continues through 6/3, we will see a weaker and weaker Obama. That’s what the Party operatives and the swooners are afraid of, and Obama will show just how unsuited to the Presidency he really is. There is no Affirmative Action regarding the Presidency and no return policies either. The Obamaites want to bamboozle the rest of the country before we can say boo!!!

Posted by: alee25 | May 7, 2008 5:18:19 PM

So that's why the road for Clinton has been so bumpy lately. Add "pundits" to the "economists" that her campaign has thrown under the bus lately.

Posted by: medhat | May 7, 2008 5:13:58 PM

Bye Bye Crat3. Don't let the door hit you in the .....

Go support a candidate that is pro torture, pro spying on Americans, Pro more Iraq war, pro tax cut to the wealthy, pro corrupting and politicizing the DOJ, and Pro Radical Right Wing Extreme Supreme Court Justices. You deserve to be in a party like that.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008 4:53:02 PM

Can you blame Obama for being careful with his words, look at the scutiny he's receiving for every word, even many words he didn't say, and often by the supporters of a bold faced liar. Also yes Clinton is being forced out of the race, by voters.

Posted by: fool me once | May 7, 2008 4:50:36 PM

Supporters of "Planet Clinton" will certainly sink "Planet Obama" in November when cult leader Obama will crash and burn. Supporters of "Planet Clinton" will be voting for "Planet McCain" and maybe join his campaign to ensure the implosion of "Planet Obama."

Posted by: crat3 | May 7, 2008 4:43:27 PM

Even Clinton's own staff and strategist now that this thing is over. From Chris Cilliza at the Washington Post:

"I believe there is no path to victory," said one Clinton strategist granted anonymity to speak candidly about the future of the campaign. "I also believe she wants to see a Democrat win in November and she will do the right thing."

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008 4:37:48 PM

theyshoothorses: there certainly are comparisons. I agree that Obama is a lot smarter than Bush. But he is no more ready for the White House than Bush was. An Obama presidency will be run by those who have propped him up like Kennedy and Kerry. Ok, they're not evil like Cheney, but it hardly makes Obama a strong president. As I previously noted his discomfort in difficult situations is similar to that of Bush and pretty scary.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008 4:36:43 PM

Extreme is sitting in a church for 20 years that preaches black liberation theology and being friends with a domestic terrorist. That is what will keep him from becoming President.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008 4:25:21 PM

I wasn't saying that he is elitist (although his SF comments were elitist comments). What I'm saying is that he does not appear to be "comfortable in his own skin" in difficult situations. We already have a president like that.

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008 4:21:25 PM

As an educated black man, military officer, proud American; I sincerely hope that those in this country who support the similar policies of HRC and BHO look at the bigger picture. Whoever looses the Democratic nomination owes it to America to strongly support the winner with the same energy they used to reach this point in the nominating process. They know what is best not only for America but for the party, "We can stand together or surely fall apart..."

If you put your future and your childrens future in the hands of a president who appoint 2-4 Supreme Court judges, you stand to loose far more that you could possibly hope to gain by voting for the presumptive republican nominee.

Just a thought...

Posted by: Kevin | May 7, 2008 4:20:11 PM

i know the black vote was 92% for obama... what was the white vote percentage?

Posted by: greg | May 7, 2008 4:19:40 PM

DarellP. You should have more faith In your fellow African American, and don't sell him short. A newcomer to this process, a Bi-Racial Man (a black man) in this racist country has been able to do the unthinkable and stand tall against The Mighty Clinton Machine.

He has run his campaign based on the rules put forth by the democratic party, and he has done a absolutely marvelous job. He ran a better campaign than her and that's the reason he's in the position he is.

You would have to be a fool, to not believe that African Americans wouldn't throw there support behind the 1st black man to make a serious run for office. Just like Hillary gets overwhelming support from Women and older Americans. Why is it that black voters have to be trivialized. And by the way blacks are not the only race of people supporting him.

Posted by: Sick and Tired | May 7, 2008 4:16:42 PM

"comfortable in his own skin"

--unless he's in a debate or taking difficult questions in a news conference. He always looks very uncomfortable to me in those situations, stammers a lot and over-uses phrases like "bunch of stuff" and "this, that and the other thing".

Posted by: cappamore | May 7, 2008 4:14:58 PM

Hillary has donated (11.4 million) the equivalent of 28+ years salary ($400,000)of being the POTUS to her campaign. Talk about power hungry!

Posted by: Roxanne | May 7, 2008 4:14:40 PM

Len,I'm just commenting on the "comfortable in his own skin" charge. Here's an excerpt from Larry King Live interview with Joy Behar. She has met Obama, and she's as down to earth as they come.
KING: What is it about him? He has a certain -- he changes the room.

BEHAR: It's his charm and his ease with himself. Some people are comfortable in their own skin. He seems to be comfortable in his own skin. When I was with McCain, I didn't get that impression that the guy is comfortable with himself, that he seems uncomfortable a little bit.

KING: Do you buy any of this elitist charge about Obama? BEHAR: Oh, please. You know what, are you an elitist? Am I an elitist? Do we like -- yes, of course we are because we like certain things in life. That doesn't mean you look down your nose at anybody else. You're in a -- why -- I don't know. John McCain -- they also say that if they have money, it doesn't mean they're an elitist. John McCain is worth -- his wife is worth 100 million bucks. George Bush -- what did Ann Richards say, he was born with a silver foot in his mouth. Hillary has got a lot of cash."

Posted by: theyshoothorsest | May 7, 2008 4:10:20 PM

I have a new name for Hillary Clinton. She is the George W. Bush of the Democratic party. She is going to "Stay the course" no matter how much damage she is doing to her party and the country. Hillary "George W. Bush" Clinton.

Posted by: Progressive Democrat | May 7, 2008 4:09:38 PM

I'm both, I 'm an Black American who has a Master's degree and for the average Black and white and for the poor, Obama has a Juris Doctorate and only for the rich Blacks and Whites, he's one sided, I'm not.

Obama used people in my age bracket and my race to get ahead for his own personal and political adgenda, not for all America, he's not to be trusted, I guess like you said, my race of people will protect in the streets if they don't get thier Black president, well you may be getting your wish, it does not matter whehter he has the experience to do the job or not, just be Black, that's all my race of people needs to have the qualfications to be President, well good luck because the Black American is not falling for the Ookie doke.

Posted by: DarrellP | May 7, 2008 4:07:54 PM

There is no way out for Hillary. She has no chance of beating Obama, but getting out now - when the race looks no different than it did months ago - would leave her legacy tarnished, her supporters dismayed, and the party bruised. I believe Wolfson when he says that there are "no discussions" about HRC dropping out. She's in it until 6/3.

Posted by: matt | May 7, 2008 4:04:52 PM

What's wrong? Can't handle the truth? Obama;s lemming will march off the cliff in November. We will be rid of Michelle and Barack Obama for good. The leftists have been trying for years to get a leftwinger like Kunicich and Dean nominated. Watch and learn.

Posted by: geevill | May 7, 2008 4:03:22 PM

@theyshoothorses

Read the thesis first, do the analysis, then comment. That is Michelle's point of view, not mine. She is quite clear about what she thinks is necessary for comfort.

Methinks this isn't over yet.

Posted by: len | May 7, 2008 4:02:50 PM

Mack ...Democratic Party does not equal Communism. Time to get educated in reality.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008 4:00:42 PM

My Dad carried that far left torch. Even gave me a copy of the Communist Manifesto for my 14th birthday. He put out his torch a long time ago, and stopped voting. Most Americans are more toward the center. The far left agenda doesn't work here.

Posted by: Mack | May 7, 2008 3:58:46 PM

Cokie is a bitter gal! Her opinions have not been hidden during this primary process. She needs to move on.

Posted by: Thinking | May 7, 2008 3:56:30 PM

Obama is totally comfortable in his own skin. More so, than Hillary who has been a chameleon, Bush who is a connecticut elite trying to be average joe, or McCain who can't talk straight no matter what he calls his bus.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008 3:56:20 PM

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

If you do read Michelle's thesis and accept it's hypotheses, you come to two conclusions:

1. Barack Obama had to spend 20 years at Reverend Wright's church to become comfortable with blacks and his black heritage. Otherwise, his life experiences predisposed him to being more comfortable with his white heritage. This isn't racism. It is adaptation to environment.

2. Socioeconomically, except for a short and uninflential period, Obama is more comfortable with the economically advantaged and has little in common with the working classes whom he claims to represent. This isn't elistism. It is habits.

He is uncomfortable in his skin but he adapted to it. She is comfortable in her skin but intolerant of those not in her circle of friends or cultures. This is racism but it is black racism and nothing about that will change in the course of this election.

No matter what it looks like today for the Obama supporters, this is a disaster for the Democrats. I am sitting this one out.

Posted by: len | May 7, 2008 3:53:32 PM

M Green, yes, mainstream is a good way to describe today's Democratic Party. Thanks.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008 3:53:24 PM

Nothing radical about today's progressive/populist. I'd call it the PRAGMATIC LEFT. It's a dose of reality,Bush has pushed us over a cliff with radical right. Listen to your own rightwing preachers..like HAGEE. Right wing has brought the progressive to the center. Future depends on moving away from the radical right. Yet, McCain IS moving toward the radical right, as is Hillary.

Posted by: theyshoothorses | May 7, 2008 3:51:34 PM

theyshoothorses.... that's the problem with the radical left: you think you're mainstream, just like everyone else should be -- by thinking your way, of course.