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Conservatives (Heart) Hillary
May 04, 2008 11:12 PM
A few days ago I was talking to a prominent conservative commentator who told me how much he'd come to admire the campaign Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., had waged against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.
No fan of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the commentator said to me that if Clinton promised to not raise income taxes and she gave the conservatives the next Supreme Court pick, he'd vote for her.
That won't happen, of course -- but it's a remarkable phenomenon, and now it's showing up in conservative publications.
Rich Lowry, writing in the National Review:
"Was just talking to a shrewd friend. His take on the turn of events in the campaign and how it has affected Hillary Clinton (quoting roughly): 'Hillary has shown a Nixonian resilience and she's morphing into Scoop Jackson. She's entering the culture war as a general. All of this has made her a far more formidable general election candidate. She's fighting the left and she's capturing the center. She's denounced MoveOn.org. She's become the Lieberman of the Democratic party. The left hates her and treats her like Lieberman. Today, Obama is distancing himself from Wright and Hillary is getting in touch with O'Reilly. The culture war has come to the Democratic party.'"
Noemie Emery in the Weekly Standard:
"She's running a right-wing campaign. She's running the classic Republican race against her opponent, running on toughness and use-of-force issues, the campaign that the elder George Bush ran against Michael Dukakis, that the younger George Bush waged in 2000 and then again against John Kerry, and that Ronald Reagan--'The Bear in the Forest'--ran against Jimmy Carter and Walter F. Mondale. And she's doing it with much the same symbols. ...she is becoming a social conservative, a feminist form of George Bush. Against an opponent who shops for arugula, hangs out with ex-Weathermen, and says rural residents cling to guns and to God in unenlightened despair at their circumstances, she has rushed to the defense of religion and firearms, while knocking back shots of Crown Royal and beer. Her harsh, football-playing Republican father (the villain of the piece, against whom she rebelled in earlier takes on her story) has become a role model, a working class hero, whose name she evokes with great reverence. Any day now, she'll start talking Texan, and cutting the brush out in Chappaqua or at her posh mansion on Embassy Row….
"She might run to the right of McCain, if she makes it to the general election, and get the votes of rebellious conservatives. Or she, Lieberman, and McCain could form a pro-war coalition, with all of them running to pick up the phone when it rings in the small hours. The New York Times and the rest of the left would go crazy. Respect can't get stranger than that."
It's interesting.
Discussion point: Obama is getting the support of some prominent conservatives -- Doug Kmiec comes to mind -- because of their view that he could maybe unite the country.
Clinton, on the other hand, is starting to get Atta-Girls from other conservatives because they sense compared to Obama she's more or less on their side in the "divided" America. (Though after a nasty Fall campaign they would no doubt consider her the second coming of Bella Abzug and race to pull the lever for McCain.)
Discuss.
- jpt
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What's missing from all of this right wing punditry is any mention of the fact that Hillary Clinton is consciously serving as John McCain's surrogate. She knows that she cannot win the Democratic nomination, so she is softening up Obama for the general election. Why, you may ask, would she behave so traitorously? Quite simply, it is because the Clintons, as the standard bearers for the DLC (which is the corporate wing of the Democratic Party), fear the progressive wing of their own party more than they fear the Republican Party. Once the progressives gain control of the party, the corporatists will lose prestige and influence.
There has been much speculation about whether Hillary might run as McCain's running mate on the Republican ticket. That would be hysterically funny, given the fact that many Republicans view the Clintons as Satan's footsoldiers.
Posted by: Bobbie | May 6, 2008 12:17:54 PM
Stupid Republicrat Hillary: She hasn't realized yet that America is becoming more and more liberal and wants to get rid off its conservative ballast. She is really out of touch with the mainstream. She definitely unfit for presidency.
Posted by: Jimbo | May 6, 2008 8:24:39 AM
It's difficult to believe that people who think that Obama "will unite us" can actually be so stupid. NO far-left winger can ever unite a nation that is basically conservative at it's heart. Anyone who thinks so just doesn't understand the country they live in. America has kicked more left wingers to the curb than you can shake a stick at. Don't think so? Ask George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy. They didn't just lose, they disappeared completely.
Posted by: Doug | May 6, 2008 6:18:31 AM
""She's running a right-wing campaign. She's running the classic Republican race against her opponent..."
And while doing so, she's becoming more and more divisive to the Dem. Party!
She only cares about herself!
Posted by: OICUR2 | May 5, 2008 8:56:06 PM
Question for the devout: are you aware of every word that has been uttered out of your religious leaders' mouths over the last decade? If you said yes, you're a liar. If you said no, you're a hypocrite. Fun game, eh?
Posted by: Chris | May 5, 2008 5:26:38 PM
My theory about the Clintons is simply that they have taken so much money from very powerful and corrupt people on this planet, inside and outside this country and those people have been promsised an unprecedented level of access to a Clinton White House. Hillary is in the battle of her life and will do or say anything because if she does get in, the money tree will will dry up. The Clintons will have proven to be not such a wise investment.
Posted by: Christopher London | May 5, 2008 4:34:28 PM
Hillary Clinton is doing McCain's work for him -- slashing Barack Obama. I wonder what the McCain campaign is paying her. Maybe a promise to go lightly if she is (I dread) the nominee.
Posted by: Karen, New York | May 5, 2008 4:19:38 PM
Just wondering why Obama waited until 2008 to denounce the Rev. Wright. Thiose statements were made in 2003. Did he and his family sit through and applaud with the rest of the people. Why did he not denounce him then? Why now?
Posted by: Paul | May 5, 2008 4:16:32 PM
Genna is 100% correct, except that I would also add that Hillary is not just alienating black voters who have been loyal constituents of the Democratic Party, she is alienating the educated, the enlightened and even people like me who went door to door in New Hampshire for the Clinton/Gore Ticket in 1992 and voted for Bill twice. Now Hillary wants to torch the party if they do give her what she wants? Hillary did not just lose my vote, she completely aliented me by labeling all thinking educated professionals "Elitists" and running a campaign that would have made Lee Atwater, Karl Rove & Jessie Helms proud. She has turned me into someone who will become an activist to remove her from her NY Senate Seat. She will not ever gain re-election.
Posted by: Christopher London | May 5, 2008 3:21:27 PM
What is there to discuss?
Howard Dean said on Fox News that Republicans were race baiting in Mississippi, Louisiana, and North Carolina. Hillary Clinton has used similar tactics. Now I will put words in his mouth, no Democrat has ran that kind of campaign in the history of the Democratic party until this DLC member stepped up.
What is there to discuss? I don't know how the Democratic party will remain a coalition when that kind of campaign has been introduced and tolerated. In fact, Obama is expected to defer to her tactics and accept her supporters when they have continued to use that kind of measure to get elected.
If you or anyone else thinks it feels good to have our image trotted out election after election as the boogie man who is waiting to attack some unsuspecting person EVERY ELECTION, then you can't begin to understand the level antipathy we have against the Clintons right now. Politics? Sure, you are with us when we keep you from being booted from office and you are against us when it is to your political advantage. We won't forget.
You want to talk about an underreported story and the meaning it has in the future, go across the country and talk to people who used to think the world of the Clintons and their stand on race. Ask them about 85 to 90% of African Americans voting against the Clintons, not all those number reflect support for Obama. Ask them what it feels like to be negotiable in this society after solid support since JFK.
How many geniune conservatives does Hillary have? If she has a good number of them, maybe she can run under their banner in 2012.
Posted by: Genna | May 5, 2008 2:56:51 PM
indy voter: that is a fair comment. But I also think that the Clinton's have skillfully persuaded many in the media that they have alrady been vetted and that fraud, immorality and questionable relationships that they have are off limits in this election cycle. There are just way too many, to coin a phrase, inconvenient truths, about the Clintons. Hillary has LIED about every single substantive issue on this campaign and it is my FIRM POSITION that more than simply lying, she is DEFRAUDING THE WORKING CLASS IN AMERICA. The latest pander on the gas tax and how she labeled learned Economists Elitists when the reality is that to be well regarded Economist requires years of study and CHIEF EXECUTIVES like a President, a Mayor or a Governor are supposed to be able to call on the experience and judgment of learned professionals to make decisions. What Hillary is saying is do not trust anyone who is educated. That itself is so damn disgusting.
Posted by: Christopher London | May 5, 2008 2:40:48 PM
Calling Obama Eilitist is ridiculous. He took out student loans and had scholarships to pay for his education as did his wife. Hillary Clinton went to Wellesley and then Yale. Talk about a ridiculous claim, about as dumb as the gas tax holiday and that the oil companies will somehow have to pay the tax. The legislation has no chance of getting to a vote in time for the summer much less passed and signed bu the Moron in chief.
Posted by: dave | May 5, 2008 2:34:50 PM
Christopher London, As a sometimes Hillary basher I also find it fascinating that my posts sometimes disappear. I am not one to believe anything sinister is occurring. It is just a fact. If anything, I think the media has bent off backwards trying to be fair to both candidates...Of course, I believe in attempting to do so they are not holding HRC's feet to the fire lately as much as they should be....but I do think the major media outlets (minus FOX) attempt to be fair.
Posted by: indy_voter | May 5, 2008 2:28:31 PM
bho has not perservered...he was annointed by his supporters and the press for most of his campaign. not until wright could not be ignored any more did people in msm have to finally look at some of his issues. they have HARDLY begun to look at issues related to bho character, trustworthiness, patriotism, ethics, talk of unifier, etc..
he is like the wizard in the wizard of oz...all smoke and mirrors. once the curtain is pulled back, you find a little man, with no substance nor depth to carry him.
if the nominee, one of the things that will doom bho are his supporters. their rabid tirades are the very reason hillary supporters will take their votes elsewhere if bho is the nominee.
Posted by: pp | May 5, 2008 2:13:38 PM
christopher london,
give me a break...un-vetted? if bho had been vetted his campaign would never have started...his rascist book; tucc, reverend wright, and moss; rezko; ayers and dorhn, home grown, unrepentent terrorists; auchi; kalem el-hady, international terrorist financier; marxist father; rebel cousin, with ethnic clensing to his name; dual citizenship with kenya; race baiting; "68 lies obama said"-google it--; his wife; and the list could go on. most problems people have with hillary are bill's issues, they are not running as a pair any more than bho and his wife. and, if you want to pair them, google the clinton presidency and you will find pages of accomplishments, and a president who left office with a 65% approval rating.
Posted by: pp | May 5, 2008 2:04:10 PM
"Hillary Bashing" as you call it is not bashing as much as it is that she is NOT VETTED, she is swimming in FRAUD from the Peter Paul trial in California, evidence of Vote Fraud in the NY Primary which was picked up Mayor Bloomberg & the Citizens Union to the massive increase in Clinton wealth from foreign sources through the Clinton Global Initiative, Clinton Presidential Library and her campaign. The Clinton's sold the last White House on the way out the door pardoing assorted felons and terrorists and now they appear to have pre-sold the next Clinton Administration to foreign elements that want to own the next Whitehouse. Hillary agrees to release information slowly and after the election cycle. How convenient. All politicians lie a little bit, but the level, depth and extent of CLINTON FRAUD is pervasive, so much so that she really has no business running for any national office, let alone the Presidency. God help America if she somehow steals this nomination.
Posted by: Christopher London | May 5, 2008 1:55:21 PM
I really need to come up with a scam to bilk all these gullible Clinton supporters out of their money. If they'll believe her lies, they'll certainly believe mine.
Posted by: Chris | May 5, 2008 1:33:03 PM
bob--who running for president is not hungry for power? bho is not doing this just to be nice...
Posted by: pp | May 5, 2008 12:46:34 PM
Ironically, Hillary Clinton has come to personify all that is wrong with America. She is more dangerous than George Bush Jr. America will be punished for picking this woman whose hunger for power will eventually bring her and the nation down.
Posted by: BoB | May 5, 2008 12:43:35 PM
Ironically, Hillary Clinton has come to personify all that is wrong with America. She is more dangerous than George Bush Jr. America will be punished for picking this woman whose hunger for power will eventually bring her and the nation down.
Posted by: BoB | May 5, 2008 12:42:48 PM
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