Political Punch

Thank God that people voted the way they did. Marriage has always been defined as that union between one man and one woman. The courts consulted their law books, they looked at legal precedents, they looked at case law, they looked at intrinsic and extrinsic aids, they looked at the Constitutyion of the United States, they looked at THE HOLY BIBLE,THEY LOOKED AT OTHER RELIGIOUS BOOKS: yes folks all these AFOREMENTIONED REFERENCED ITEMS REFERRED TO DEFINE MARRIAGE AS THAT UNION BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Marriage is a hetereosexual institution.Marriage is not a homosexual institution.Marriage is between a man and a woman. There is no provision in the word "MARRIAGE" for same sex unions.

Why should people that deny the sanctity of marriage want to adorn themselves with the respectability of the WORD "MARRIED?". It boggles the mind!. Go and educate yourselves. A man is born to be a man, and a woman is born to be a woman. Men and women marry and procreate and have children. Children born out of wedlock are bastards. Bastards are discriminated by current LAWS OF INHERITANCE.Go educate yourselves instead of having a tantrum.

HOMOSEXUALITY IS CONDEMENED BY THE BIBLE (Leviticus 18 verse 22 and Genesis chapters 18 and 19 and Romans chapter 1).

The all wise God knew that a vote for the OBAMA_BIDEN 2008 TICKET would ensure that BLACK VOTERS would vote against same sex unions because the BIBLE CONDEMNS HOMOSEXUALTY and the BIBLE defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

God in simplicity! Thank God that marriage is between a man and a woman. A HETEREOSEXUAL INSTITUTION. One man one woman, one husband one wife. The man and the woman get married ,procreate and have children "....be fruitful multiply and replenish the earth...." .Errol Smythe.

gays should be able to get married just like straight people. after all we are people too, and deserve to do what we want where were at. its not like only straights support america:0

Sorry...my computer freaked and double submitted.

Jen,

Go back to the Bible to find true Theocracy and the kind that beccatoo is talking about.

beccatoo: Please refer to your dictionary. Theocracy is not a state where man is ruled by God. It is a state ruled by priests and/or religious hierarchy in the name of a god or god. Please see your map - and locate the middle east specifically IRAN where Theocracy rules or IRAQ were both Theocracy and Dictatorship had the day. You mean to tell me you would like to live in such a society?

Thanks comin out....

As a Christian I don't believe it should be the government's role to decide what we do with our relationships. There are THOUSANDS of marriages out there that are only on paper and are dead relationships. ...and yet there is now law saying "you have to actually love each other to get married". Marriage is ALREADY just a contract as far as the government's concerned.

Legislating morality is bad. No law should tell us what to do with our personal life, personal beliefs or personal property so long as we don't use any of the above to harm others.

Theocracy means man ruled by God. We can only hope for that but unfortunately I do not see that happening.

What about those who are non-christian? What about Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Sieks (sp), etc.? Christians do not have the right to dictate to those who do not live by their code of beliefs on how they should live or not live. Non-Christians should have the same rights as everyone else - but the way this is going, our country is going to end up a Theocracy. AND that means the many ruled by the religious elite. Bleh!!

Those who turn to God through Christ are "engraffed," as the Word says, into the Vine... >>> "graffed"

Waffie

Mr. Incredible said that in his first post.not to minister to the heathen.
Posted by: melbd | May 23, 2008 9:55:06 AM
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He has made a slight correction.

Waffie

Mr. Incredible said that in his first post.not to minister to the heathen.

^We are commanded by Him to go into all the world, not just the civilized part of it and preach the Gospel. ^

Ok, I got it slightly wrong:

(Gal 1:16) To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen...

Now, I say, "slightly," cuz that says, "preach," not "minister to." "Minister to" would indicate "healing," whereas, "preach," indicates "delivering a lesson."

Let's say, then, that Jesus never healed a heathen, that, like dogs licking up the crumbs that fall to the floor, the heathen may have seen Him preach and heard what he said.

Mr. Incredible...by "House of Israel" are you meaning Jewish? I am not Jewish but a Gentile...does that mean I am not eligible for more than crumbs? I think not. Once a person, Gentile or Jewish, accepts the forgiveness and grace that is offered by Jesus the Son of God's death on the cross for the sins of ALL humanity, they are "grafted" onto the tree. The Bible uses the term "grafting" to represent what takes place. Jesus also says that there is no diference between the Jew and the Greek (Meaning Gentile or non-Jewish) or man and woman. A person is a person to God, you are either saved or not. Heaven is not based on works (Ephesians 2:8-9- For by grace are you saved through faith in that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.)(Romans 6:23- For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our LORD.)

Once God sifts through the saved and unsaved, the unsaved will be condemned to an eternity in Hell. There are multiple references in the Bible to the fact that everyone has the chance to accept God and what He is offering. Even those that have never heard from someone. There are many stories of missionaries going to remote villages and the natives already know the Gospel story they just didn't know the "terms" that Christians have labeled everything.

The only people that will be judged by their works are the saved. God will judge their works, thoughts, and actions to determine the eternal reward. Will you received wood, hay and stubble or gold, silver, and precious jewels? Personally...I'm going fot the jewels and gold and silver. I try to live my life every day with the question, "what would Jesus do?" I am human. I fail. But I serve a loving God who forgives and forgets.

I'm not really sure where this tangent came from but its good an true so I'm leaving it. Maybe someone needs to hear it.

Back to Mr. Incredible...if you have read any of my other posts, you know if my family and friends know my beliefs and what I feel about their lifestyle. I'm not wasting my time re typing something for someone who thinks I'm a dog worthy only of crumbs off the floor.

Dear People Who Say that They are Homosexual, Their Supporters and Activists:

What form is Christian love and compassion supposed to take toward those who claim to be homosexual? Like what is it supposed to look? How would YOU recognize it?

"I'm not sure how you can be right on in all you other points and totally miss this one [that we are to go into all the world and preach]. "

Nobody is saying we shouldn't.

^^Jesus ate with prostitutes and sinners. If that's not ministering, I don't know what is.^^

He came to save the lost of the House of Israel, not heathen. He ministered to the sinners of that House.

^^Jesus stated that he came to "seek and save that which was lost"...that means the "non-Christians" the heathens as you put it.^^

The heathen were not lost. They never were of the House of Israel, and, so, Jesus -- the Shepherd -- never left the other sheep to go out and look for the heathen.

^^ We are commanded by Him to go into all the world, not just the civilized part of it and preach the Gospel.^^

This is true, but we are not to concentrate on other than the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

However, if the crumbs of the children's Bread -- the Gospel -- fall to the floor, the dogs are allowed to lick them up. We are not to give what is holy to the dogs.

^^ We are also commanded to love others as we love ourself.^^

Is THAT the worldly version of "love," or the scriptural version?

Biblical "love" is "unselfish concern for the Salvation of others, as much concern for their Salvation as you have for your own." It has nothing to do with worldly "love," rather giving others what they need for life; after all, Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after Righteousness.

^^I love my family member and friends that are homosexual but that does not mean that I endorse that lifestyle.^^

So, what, according to the Word of God, are you doing to let them know that God condemns homosexuality, that they are as sheep with no shepherd?

Posted by: beccatoo | May 23, 2008 9:23:54 AM

My opinion has not changed and I feel very strongly that this remains wrong. James...you are in a homosexual relationship because that is your desire. Deep inside...you know this is morally wrong. My desire might be to introduce several women into my marriage but I will not do so because I know this is morally wrong. I respect my wife, my life, and my fundamental belief of what is right and what is wrong. Your views are wrong my friend...everything in the bible and in nature says so. Man was not made to be with man and woman was not made to be with woman. As much as you don't want to...you need to live a moral life. I think you know what is morally appropriate and what is not.

I'm still shocked that our society has allowed this to become a debate. It should not even be considered.

Mr. Inredible...I believe with almost everything you said except this, "I am to love my brother, not heathen. Jesus didn't minister to heathen. Neither do I." Jesus ate with prostitutes and sinners. If that's not ministering, I don't know what is. Jesus stated that he came to "seek and save that which was lost"...that means the "non-Christians" the heathens as you put it. We are commanded by Him to go into all the world, not just the civilized part of it and preach the Gospel. I'm not sure how you can be right on in all you other points and totally miss this one. We are also commanded to love others as we love ourself. "hate the sin but love the sinner" as the popular adage does. I love my family member and friends that are homosexual but that does not mean that I endorse that lifestyle.

Dear People Who Say that They are Homosexual, Their Supporters and Activists:

What form is Christian love and compassion supposed to take toward those who claim to be homosexual? Like what is it supposed to look? How would YOU recognize it?
Posted by: Paula Abdrool | May 23, 2008 9:01:07 AM
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That's the central question, isn't it.

Scoffers claim to know what Christian "love" and "compassion" are supposed to be. How could they??? They reject the very Person Who brought "love" and "compassion"!!! So, how would THEY know???

Those who claim to be homosexual say that they were created homosexual.

Jefferson said that the Right to life begins at our being created.

Those who claim to be homosexual are at odds with the pro-choice=pro-abortion=wrong-choice people who say that the Right to life begins at birth, thus trying to justify abortion.

Does THAT mean that everybody is created at birth???? That can't be cuz, clearly, something was created before that.

So, which is it??