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Carville like every other WA insider says he wiil vote and work for Obama should he be he nominee....not much different than what Hillary says.....She admits she has a steep hill to climb..Obama is ahead in the race.

That being said neither candidate can win without super delegates putting them over the top and Obama has not won in the swing states.

It's not over yet.

Most voters are not WA insiders. There is a large vote that went from Democrat to Bush....there are Reagan Democrats that never came back. The White Working Class Voters that voted for Bll Clinton are still out there....Regardless of what the pundits claim I believe that 25-30% of Hillary's voters could migrate to McCain....There will not be enough new voters to make up the difference.

In a shoe-in year for Democrats Obama would try to win with the same demographics that beat McGovern.

Look in states where Obama drew record crowds to hear his speeches (like PA) he still lost to Hillary.

Obama just has 50% of those that vote Democrat as his voters. The crucial and unfailing confidence he has is from the MSM.

Kerry...Kennedy....his coalition is as "old politics" as you can t. This is a guy that has always deferred to mentors like Wright and Rezko.

We can only hope his next mentor is Kerry.

THE FACTS...

Hillary fans think tonight in WV is so fantastic! Such a big win! Wow!!!

Here are a few for you from Real Clear Politics - Not fake numbers as some of you Clinton fans put up here:

State.........Obama% .....Clinton%

Virgina .....63.7 ........ 35.5

Maryland ....66.7 ........ 35.8

Nebraska ....67.7 ........ 32.3

Georgia .....66.4 ........ 32.2

Colorado ....66.5 ........ 32.3

Kansas ......74.0 ........ 25.9

Minnesota ...66.4 ........ 32.2

And there are plenty more of them where those came from... And WV is so, so, so important? Why???

PT

If Florida and Michigan are forced to wait til the GE in order to vote.... then they have been disenfranchised of their right to select the nominee for whom they wish to vote!

If the DNC wants to play at being bigger than the Constitution..... than a lot of current Democrats will probably be jumping ship to vote for McCain.... and to watch the shell of the DNC C R A C K into a million little pieces.

Some Americans actually believe that the country comes before the party!

I'm for Hillary, and I support this message!

C'mon already. If you ever watch Carville, all he is is a professional pundit, the same as Donna Brazille and they always seems to say just enough to cover their own behinds. Both of them are losers as far as I'm concerned; Carville must really be an egomaniac since he never seems to be able to keep his mouth shut. I stopped listening to him many years ago.

Beth,

Thank you for your post on Obama's Backers. I have been calling this a political coup for months now. It is what it is. I have your post copied and saved. I am further hoping that Jake will not delete the post.

Also, for those not aware. Clinton's personal loan to her campaign cannot be forgiven. I am sure the Clintons always understood this. I think them for their great generosity to this country.

Carville is a grown up. Grow up. GOP be afraid. The pack is coalescing, snarling and hungry to chow down on arugula in the west wing...

beth: that's some mastery of cutting & pasting. maybe a link next time will be easier for us who don't care to ignore?

Thanks!

beat me, let me explain this slowly for you. You have to have rules, otherwise there would have been state primaries at Thanksgiving or Halloween, there has to be some limit. The Dems in FL could not override the FL republican majority. But being the obnoxious, arrogant, fools they are the republicans still moved the date up. (I'm convinced this attitude comes from the top-down "bush/cheney" and is why we're in the mess we're in now.) FL and MI can redeem themselves by getting the vote right in the fall. Obama 2008!!!

Dee, tax cuts mean more money in an individual's pocket. More money to be spent or invested. More jobs are created. More people are paying taxes. Thus more revenue is generated. The 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts did all of that! The 2000-2001 recession was mild and short due to the 2001 tax cuts. And the economic effects of 9/11 were relatively short-lived due to both the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts.

The FL republicans knew the penalty for moving the date illegally and yet they still did it. Their own party took away half their delegates for doing this. But since the republican party selected their candidate early it didn't matter. (did you ever see a bigger bunch of losers that were in this years republican primary?) Obama should win by a landslide this fall against mc-more-war. Obama 2008!!!

And come to think of it, what are they penalizing MI and FL for? Wanting to vote earlier, joining in with other states that want their votes to matter? God forbid! The Dems' rules are so messed up, you'd need a book to explain it all.

Let's not be silly. It's the Dems' party rules that disenfranchised MI and FL. Who would have chosen penalizing MI and FL voters instead of the party leaders? The dumbass Dem party, that's who.

I love Carville and I bet he'll do like millions of us Hillary supporters...VOTE McCAIN IN NOV.!

For those that are unaware. In Florida the republican legislature controlled the vote to move the primary date up illegally, thus screwing the FL voters AGAIN. Do not blame the democrats for this fiasco. Florida voters should find out who these republican legislators were that forced the date to be moved and vote them out of office. Put the blame where the blame belongs. Also, Hillary will be telling voters to support Obama soon so any so-called Hillary supporters that say they are moving over to mc-more-war were probably going to vote for a third-bush term anyway, or are just uninformed voters. Obama 2008!!!

Dano, be careful what you wish for! Historians will certainly have a much kinder reflection of the Bush years than what you call "devastation." The unemployment rate of 5.0% is, historically, really quite good. And revenues are at an all-time high.

Should you get your wish (a Democrat in the White House), you will have to redefine "devastation." The plans that both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama espouse will decimate small businesses and Corporate America. And you think the cost of gasoline is high now, just wait until the Democrats start interfering with the free market. They plan to raise the federal tax on gasoline $1-$3 per gallon and pass a windfall tax on the oil companies. The windfall tax will result in less supply, which means even higher prices.

The Democrats will raise taxes on nearly everyone who pays income taxes. They say only those making over $200,000 a year will have their income tax raised (which by the way is where many small businesses fall). But they also want to raise the capital gains tax and allow the Bush tax cuts to expire. That will affect nearly everyone! This will result in the largest tax increase in American history. And then there are their plans for universal health care. That's all we need at a time when existing entitlements already have us on the brink of bankruptcy. So go ahead and vote for the Democrats this fall. Don't say you haven't been warned!

how is it Howard Dean's fault that Michigan and Florida's law-people decided not to play by the rules? it's not the citizenry's fault obviously, they shouldn't have to be disenfranchised; but i don't see how it's Dean's fault either.

Barack Obama used his power to deny, rather than defend our right to vote!

Barack Obama used his power against the American people. Now American's will use their collective power against Barack Obama!

America is no place for a dictator!

I know many who are not party loyalists, and I am one of them. There is nothing that could get me to vote Obama, even Hillary as VP. I'm afraid I have never dislike a candidate as much and it has nothing to do with skin color. He is so tainted and wrong to be given the highest office in our country. We would not be safe with him at the helm.
Where is Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Farrakahn, and Wright. Who was paid to bind and gag these angry predecessors? Michelle will soon be out and shouting her anger at the American people.
I love how the news media is so quick to crown Obama, and have the polls showing him beating McCain for the first time. Everybody loves to get behind the perceived winner....oh, it's going to be lovely when he falls from grace.

No,

What Carville is basically stating is what everyone is thinking, this race is over but Hillary has the right to stay in as long as she wants.

Lets not kid ourselves. A WV win would forestall the race. We've learned from PA, even with a Hillary victory in a big state Obama net gains 20+ Super Delegates to Hillarys 5+

As for today alone, Obama has net gained 5 SDs

She has the right to stay in, but it is in fact over.

Tina from Florida,

I think after this election Democrat Party has tainted by disenfranchised MI and FL.
It will be in history.
what a shame!