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Hillary Clinton's To-Do List

May 07, 2008 7:44 AM

1. Win in West Virginia next week -- dispatch Bill asap

2. Go on to win in Puerto Rico and Kentucky, racking up popular votes as much as humanly possible (need to have popular vote argument to make to Super-Ds)

3. Try to pick off one of the three remaining "Obama" primaries -- Oregon, Montana or South Dakota

4. Argue that Obama should have won Indiana; a post-game recalibration of expectations

5. Point to ugly exit poll data from Indiana showing 50% of Clinton supporters say they will not vote for Obama in the Fall

6. Push back on Obama "achievement" in Indiana that he lost white women by only 61%-39% -- as opposed to larger losses in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Argue: What kind of crazy worldview is this?

7. Look for more oppo. Another minister? Ayers? When does Rev. Wright's book come out?

8. MICHIGAN and FLORIDA ...The number 2,025 no longer exists. 2,209...2,209...2,209... Make it a civil rights issue

9. Push the money thing - Obama outspent us significantly, and yet he cannot put us away

10. Hard sell to superdelegates. This is going to happen and we have long memories. Stay on the fence.

11. Pray.

- jpt

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All i need to contribute here is that for the DNC to be very FAIR to both Dem. Presidential candidates and to use the DNC ruleas wisely to Retain and lets the Mi and Florida votes count based on Equal Jugements for both candidates.

For all the BIG NUTS Hillary supporters, STOP MOCKERING around and show you have a bit of understanding here and BE REALISTIC and do not be FOOLED. There is no Obama's hand in the MI anf FL problems and h should be string to this. If Hillary feels the RULES should be changed only because she is behind in everything that matters to the RULE of the game, the It is time to QUIT and accept BIG DEFEAT.

As such, to pave way for a BETTER and more INTELEGENT Democratic Nominee, Barack Obama. I do trespect you Americans, which is an epitome of GOOD things to be emulated by the world all over. With this great contest a lot are going to be learnt, either in the homes and in the government , mostly with the facts that New is better than old, moreso Hillary is full of OLD ANTIQUES, while Obama is FRESH and NEW. Hence the need for the CHANGE that we all BELIEVE and to work together to bring a befitting POLICIES that are working for the benefit of all.

Long Live American Democrats.

Posted by: Roy | May 10, 2008 9:32:10 AM

All i need to contrybute here is that for the DNC to be very FAIR to both Dem. Presidential candidates and to use the DNC ruleas wisely to Retain and lets the Mi and Florida votes count based on Equal Jugements for both candidates.

For all the BIG NUTS Hillary supporters, STOP MOCKERING around and show you have a bit of understanding here and BE REALISTIC and do not be FOOLED. There is no Obama's hand in the MI anf FL problems and h should be string to this. If Hillary feels the RULES should be changed only because she is behind in everything that matters to the RULE of the game, the It is time to QUIT and accept BIG DEFEAT.

As such, to pave way for a BETTER and more INTELEGENT Democratic Nominee, Barack Obama. I do trespect you Americans, which is an epitome of GOOD things to be emulated by the world all over. With this great contest a lot are going to be learnt, either in the homes and in the government , mostly with the facts that New is better than old, moreso Hillary is full of OLD ANTIQUES, while Obama is FRESH and NEW. Hence the need for the CHANGE that we all BELIEVE and to work together to bring a befitting POLICIES that are working for the benefit of all.

Long Live American Democrats.

Posted by: Roy | May 10, 2008 9:29:54 AM

Education (at least the kind we have in America) doesn't necessarily preclude ignorance.
How can the Clinton supporters expect to be treated well with this juvenile "we didn't win so we'd rather harm than country than accept reality" attitude?
As Hilary has agreed with McCain against Obama (and been demonstrably wrong) several times recently, I can only assume that the Clinton supporters have been for 4 more years of Bush all along.
Our elections are not supposed to be about cults of personality. They are about setting the course of the nation.
It is mind-boggling but eye opening that so many Clinton supporters would prefer to give the country 4 more years of failed policies just to show us how upset they are that their candidate lost. What if we give you all a lolipop? Will dat make you feel better?
Wow. The democratic party has buried itself with this juvenile behavior for 8 years now and learned nothing. Such nonsense. Someone pushed in front of me on line at a caucus so the candidate they support is no good. Can you believe that an adult would say that? Can you believe their are democrats who still call McCain a maverick when he has acted in every way opposite to his "maverick" rhetoric.
I hadn't been decided on supporting anyone so don't go accusing me of being a rude obama supporter. I'm willing to support the Democratic nominee because we don't need 4 more years of running America and the middle classs into the ground. Just remember that education doesn't help those who refuse to think nor those who feel their hurt wittle feelings are more important than their fellow Americans/ fellow Democrats.
Grow up and do it fast before we lose more of what makes America a great country.

Posted by: arjuna108 | May 9, 2008 5:48:35 PM

Republicans don`t even have to try. Democrats voting, monkeys playing with guns, same result. Clinton backers won`t
go with Obama if he gets the nomination and Obama backers won`t go with Clinton if she gets the nomination. Stalemate. Neither can win in November.

Posted by: jax | May 9, 2008 1:28:17 PM

Bitter, bitter, bitter. My heavens, ladies, it's a sad day for you. That you would throw your country over the cliff and refuse to see the bigger opportunity for America and the world in these times. Much of what Hillary represents in character is what has got the US its dismal reputation around the world. We have enough fighters wreaking havoc.

And by the way, the Iowa voters who started Obama's roll - aren't they hard-working white people???

Posted by: Terri | May 9, 2008 11:06:17 AM

I don't know if I posted here already but I want to say if Hillary doesn't win the nomination I will write her in in November.

Posted by: Eddie Bryan | May 9, 2008 4:49:19 AM

I'm completely for Hillary Clinton. And if she doesn't win, I will vote for McCain with the motto of "HILLARY FOR PRES. IN 2012!!"

And I loved the comment of "I hope she burns the place down on her way out." I heard it said once that she has the ability to "go juggular" when need be. I couldn't agree more. It's what I love about her.

Posted by: Ryan from Indiana | May 8, 2008 10:34:31 PM

I AM A HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER AND I SAY WHAT MANY OF THESE OTHER SMART PEOPLE ARE SAYING AND THAT IS IF OBAMA IS OUR NOMINEE, I WILL VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN. OBAMA IS THE WEAKEST CANDIDATE TO DATE TO FACE THE REPUBLICANS AND IF HE THINKS THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO TREAT HIM WITH KID GLOVES LIKE THE MEDIA HAS DONE THEN HE DESERVES WHAT HE GETS! I WAS INTO POLITICS WHEN AL GORE AND JOHN KERRY BOTCHED UP THE ELECTIONS WITH THEIR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS NOT ABOUT WHICH STATES YOU WIN IT IS ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND IF THE DEMOCRATS HAD THE SAME SYSTEM AS THE REPUBLICANS, HILLARY WOULD ALREADY BE OUR NOMINEE.
ALSO I AM A BLACK WOMAN IN MY 30'S WHO IS NOT FOOLED BY OBAMA'S LIES AND DECEIT TO GAIN THE BLACK VOTE! NOWHERE DOES OBAMA ACTUALLY SAY WHAT HE WILL DO TO HELP THE BLACKS AND YET THEY GO BLINDLY INTO HIS CORNER. NOT ME. ALSO I WILL BE REGISTERING AS AN INDEPENDENT COME NOVEMBER WHEN I SEE ANOTHER FAILED ATTEMPT BY THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN A NOMINATION THAT IS THEIR'S TO WIN BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE RUN BY A BUNCH OF IDIOTS (HOWARD DEAN, DNC) WE WILL PUT OUR 'HOPE' INTO UNELECTABLE BARACK OBAMA AND WE WILL NOT GET ANOTHER CHANCE FOR 20 YEARS OR MORE. I AM OFFICIALLY GONE.

Posted by: JENNIFER | May 8, 2008 8:43:14 PM

We were outmuscled in Houston as well. In my precinct the Obama people cut in the front of the line and hijacked the caucus. They were very aggressive and in my opinion tried to steal the election. The rest of us acted civil and stayed in our place in line. It was a very disgusting experience to deal with the Obama supporters. I refuse to vote for Obama.

Posted by: DM-Houston | May 8, 2008 8:02:59 PM

Hi, I'm a first time voter. I caucus for Hillary here in my state, it was bad, real bad. Obama supporters were muscling us. I'd be 22 November 5 of this year. I may be young, but I can see Obama for who he is. Not all young people are supporting Obama, there are many of us college students supporting Hillary.

I take offense when they call Hillary supporters "uneducated". I'm too far from being uneducated, I'd be graduating next year, my major is Computer Engineering, I'm now working for Microsoft.

I'd set out this election if Senator Clinton is not the nominee for the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Ryan | May 8, 2008 7:45:41 PM

Hi, I'm a first time voter. I caucus for Hillary here in my state, it was bad, real bad. Obama supporters were muscling us. I'd be 22 November 5 of this year. I may be young, but I can see Obama for who he is. Not all young people are supporting Obama, there are many of us college students supporting Hillary.

I take offense when they call Hillary supporters "uneducated". I'm too far from being uneducated, I'd be graduating next year, my major is Computer Engineering, I'm now working for Microsoft.

I'd set out this election if Senator Clinton is not the nominee for the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Ryan | May 8, 2008 7:45:36 PM

The biggest headline missed Tuesday, if this were the general or we used the same system as the general, Hillary would have won with Indiana, 271 electoral votes to Obama's 217 and there are 5 states left to vote.. She will have smoked him badly, how is the democrats gonna put up someone who cant even beat "the second best candidate".. How bout if she runs an IND ticket.. Add up the electoral votes, she wins against Obama and McCain if Obama can take a couple of the red states from McCain.. Now this is an intersting idea that needs to be looked into more..

Posted by: Jr | May 8, 2008 5:13:59 PM

I'm a young voter too and I'm a Hillary supporter. I'm also college educated, maybe all of you other college educated can look between the lines. Barack Obama has practically no resume to be President of the United States, he has Oprah that is a Billionaire and has bough her friends the media. Ironically she made her career with white women and turned her back on them. I'm a Latina voter and all of us from California, Texas, Florida and everywhere else can voter for Mc Cain because he is not Bush he is a maverick that has worked with democrats with immigration. Latinos for Hillary all the way!!!! We are loyal to the Clintons!!!!

Posted by: Brenda | May 8, 2008 4:34:32 PM

How will Obama be able to answer any of the hard questions if Hillary is out of the race? Vote HILLARY!

Posted by: Carol | May 8, 2008 4:11:02 PM

It's funny how the Obama supporters are now trying to insist that Hillary's supporters should not abandon them and vote for McCain. Obama has run a vile campaign of destruction against the Clintons through his surrogates. Meanwhile, he's presented himself as a candidate of a "new kind of politics".

Well, Mr. Obama, you have have fooled a lot of people, but I, for one, have paid attention and seen what is really in your soul.

I hate to stereotype, but overall, as a group, Obama's supporters have been the most vile, hateful and disrespectful people I've ever come across both on blogs and in person.

So in closing, this lifelong Democrat will be leaving the party and voting for John McCain. He and I may not agree on a lot of issues, but he loves America and I trust him.

Posted by: Brigitte | May 8, 2008 4:07:52 PM

Earl is this your sarcastic effort to thank us for voting for John McCain? You are welcome.

Posted by: HP Boston | May 8, 2008 12:27:18 PM

I am a hillary supporter who would vote for McCain if Obama is the democrat nominee. You see we need to continue the war in Iraq because all the pilots on those planes that went into the towers were Iraqis(People keep telling me that they were Saudis but I think they were Iraqis) All the commisions that said that there was no link between Iraq and 911 do not know what they are talking about. McCain is going to continue the war and I like war(Remember I am a Hillary Supporter who is voting for McCain) War is a good thing! Vote McCain 08

Posted by: Earl | May 8, 2008 12:21:13 PM

I am a hillary supporter who would switch to John McCain because the economy is the best it has ever been and gas is 75 cents a gallon..McCain 08

Posted by: Earl | May 8, 2008 12:10:14 PM

I am a Hillary supporter who would vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee for the democratic party..let me explain..The economy right now is the best that the country has ever experienced. Gas is 75 cents a gallon and the Republican party is doing and excellent job. We are winning the war in Iraq and very little casualties. The war is good for our economy..it is because of the war why our economy is so healthy right now..People are buying homes and mortgage payments are low..Why would I want to change that and vote the democrats in..I would have to be blind,dumb or deaf to vote for anyone but McCain who I know would continue the wonderful policies that are responsible for healthy economy right now...there are millions of Hillary supporters who think like I do and we thank Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity for the wisdom that they have imparted to us relative to the healthy economy. Thank you and God bless America. Vote McCain 08 it would be absolute best for America because he would continue the good policies that are responsible for our healthy economy. Thank you America for giving me the opportunity to share some wisdom.

Posted by: Earl | May 8, 2008 12:06:50 PM

As much as I would like to think the world revolves around me. I know it does`nt. This election is not about me, or Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. It`s about the future of our country, and new generations of Americans. My first grandchild just came into this world, and to try to secure his future I will give all my support to the Democratic nominee WHOEVER that may be. The Republicans
are counting on Democrats to implode and they want our help in putting one of their own back in power. It sure seems that many of you are reaching out a helping hand. The far right surely must be laughing themselves silly.

Posted by: jax | May 8, 2008 11:53:46 AM

The young Obama supporters are the ones that are tearing this party apart.
This why alot of people apporx.
half of her supporters which is around 8-9 million people that won't vote for him. We could just write her name in or
we can vote for McCain or Nader.
One thing for sure is we do not have to listen to them and be told what to do.
This not what makes the democrats a good party. When I was young we actually got off our butts and really did protest didn't just say i'm against the war. Do not even try and tell me that you did because that would be lying since they have footage of the lack of protesters especially the young.

Posted by: Melissa | May 8, 2008 10:23:55 AM

That's exactly what I meant JORY. Those Clinton supporters that claim will vote for McCain are showing such a NEGATIVE, DESTROYING, HATEFUL ATTITUDE that we are forced to wonder if they are really Democrats or just irresponsible fanatics. Anyone that claims for a destroying vengeance instead of supporting the Democrat nominee (whoever he will be) is doing harm to this country and misusing democracy.

Posted by: MR | May 8, 2008 9:59:33 AM

OBAMA HAS NO PLATFORM ..HE FLIP FLOPS.
WHEN HE COME ON TV,I TURN IT OFF UNTILL HE IS GONE.THOSE HUGE GRINNING TEETH ARE STARTING TO BUG ME.ON THE VIEW THEY TOLD HIM HE WAS SEXY ,AND HE WAS FANNING HIS FACE.HE WAS MORE AT HOME,BEING PLAY BOY THEN PRESIDENTIAL.
HE CAME OUT OF THE BLUE LIKE A BLACK CLOUD ,THAT NO ONE HAD EVER HEARD OF.STEP OUT ON THE STAGE AND SAID I AM BARACK OBAMA AND IM RUNNING FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.HE ALLOWED REV.WRIGHT TO CALL HIS MOTHER A NAPPY HAIRED WHITE WHOE.HE IS A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS OF A ON COMMING CAR.

Posted by: DEMOCRATE VIEW | May 8, 2008 9:53:51 AM

Im so glad that young people (including myself) who are joining the democratic party get to witness the childishness of the elder hillary supporting democrats threatening to vote for mccain. There isnt going to be a democratic party left if this is really the case. Way to lead by example!

Posted by: Jory | May 8, 2008 9:49:33 AM

HILLARY VOTERS ARE REALLY SCARY!!! How can they say they'll vote for McCain if Obama is the Dem candidate... This is crazy. They're not even Democrats; if they do so, they're just fanatics and they don't even care for America. People, please be rational and honest towards your country...

Posted by: MR | May 8, 2008 9:46:29 AM

I am sick and tires of the Obama so called supporters always putting other people down.
Don't you understand this is part of the reason why Clinton supporters have hard time with Obama.
You have all cried racism when even your candidate has clearly stated on many occasions that the Clinton's are not racist. So you should follow along with your candidate and try and be honest for a change.
There are people out here that have been following this since the beginning I have seen every one of the debates, I started paying attention from the get go. I have different views then Obama on somethings. And just like with Hillary I question his judgement, and I have for a long time now. This does not make me racist, I just have a different opinion.
We all live in this country, and if you really believe in your candidate then you should practice what he preaches, unity your to try and unite the party not belittle the party just to make yourself fell bigger or better. This is about everyone not just you, this is everyones country.

Posted by: Melissa | May 8, 2008 9:36:44 AM

If Obama is the nominee, I will definitely not vote for him; I will vote for John McCain and will even make it my duty to be the first to cast my vote at my precinct. As much as I love and admire Hillary, she will not be able to convince me to vote for Obama.

Posted by: Patience2008 | May 8, 2008 8:57:47 AM

And people who are NOT college educated. - mostly Hillary supporters.

Wow. So to sum up.. Racists and stupid people want Hillary to win...

...Something to think about...

Posted by: Peekay | May 8, 2008 8:16:40 AM

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Get real!! Do you think 90 to 100% of AA voters are even 20% college educated.
Sure, and every thing you know you learned in kindergarten!!
You must be aware we are sick of that piece of dirty rhetoric, lies and poor uneducated being fed crap, talk about being bamboozled!

Posted by: HP Boston | May 8, 2008 8:50:43 AM

Wow. Hillary apparently has been winning so much that she's behind now.

How's that for logic. The loser whines again that Obama spent more in the state. Let's face it more people want Obama to win. If they didn't, don't you think that Hillary wouldn't have to beg for cash in her speeches..?

So you think that the Super delegates should back her.. Why..?
Is it because..?
1. She has shown that she can win legitimately..?
or
2. She has less baggage than Obama..?

On another note... I hate to bring this up but....
People over 65.. basically are the people who have a lot of racist baggage.. (Can't blame them.) It's I suppose the time they lived through. -- All would vote for a white candidate.

And people who are NOT college educated. - mostly Hillary supporters.

Wow. So to sum up.. Racists and stupid people want Hillary to win...

...Something to think about...

Posted by: Peekay | May 8, 2008 8:16:40 AM

I find it a really big joke on the DNC that they are now left with MILLIONS of "TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE" who are now very "BITTER" and ready to vote for John McCain!
And in more OBAMA "WORDS" we "HOPE" you will be happy with the "CHANGE" and "I NEVER HEARD WRIGHT SAY THOSE WORDS"!!!

Posted by: HP Boston | May 8, 2008 7:59:18 AM

Anyone paying any attention, and surely the Clinton and Obama camps are, knows everything listed above and then some.

But thanks for listing some of the main points out anyway.

Thing is, the vast money differential, the vast left and right wing media bias, the huge issue of two states for Clinton not counting but they will count after he gets crowned and their votes won't really ever count the way they should have, the polls saying he can't win over her base, and all that other pertinent information isn't going to sway the pundits to stop and think and stop swaying the masses to a dead end. The lemmings are jumping off the obama cliff at an ever astounding rate.

When she wins KY and WV they will still call for her to drop out and people, like McGovern (who I've been comparing Obama to for 6 months) will keep on insisting despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary that He is The One in their trance like dream state.

It will take a strong cup of smack-in-the-face and bitter tears on the day after election day to realize where the dems by and large, once again, went terribly wrong.

Posted by: karen for Clinton | May 8, 2008 7:55:07 AM

The media has and continues to destroy Clinton.
Not one station has even investigated the win in NC.

The state was nearly 40 percent African American.
Eighty percent of Obama's voters (95 percent African American) sent their votes in as absentee ballots 2 weeks before the election.

Please check CNN exit polls on the night of the election. Bill Schneider commented that these votes were prior to the Wright scandals vicious comments.

The media has counted Clinton out in Texas and Ohio, Super Tuesday, Pa and now at the end of this election process.

Why is it that Obama didn't close the deal in the state bordering his state?
Having Obama act like a winner when he didn’t win is a disgrace to our democracy. Michigan and Florida won’t forget how Obama has ignored them in the General election.

Clinton supporters won’t forget either. Over 40 percent the “typical white” people (Oama’s words} will support McCain.
Democrats just lost the election. b

Posted by: Rick from Pa | May 8, 2008 7:11:01 AM

BO has not won, but he is winning, by the rules set before the contest begun and agreed to by all the parties.

FL and MI should be seated and will be, but not the way HRC wants them. She was happy to agree that they will not count until she saw that she needs them. FFS!, BO was not even on the ticket in MI and did not campaign in FL where HRC had the name recognition and he was an unknown. Seating them as is would not be very fair, and last time I checked, Americans like fair play.

BO is not asking HRC to withdraw, if you actually listened to what he said, you would know that he said that she has every right to continue and all the states should be able to have their voice heard. Most of the Dems also say its her choice and her choice only, they only ask that the negative personal attacks stop, let Mac do his own dirty work.

As for Operation Chaos in NC, there is no evidence that it worked. Exit poling shows that out of all the Republicans that voted in Dem primary, 50% went for HRC and 50% went for BO.

As for the posts in this forum, I refuse to believe that those people posting hateful, racist remarks would have voted for HRC were she the nominee.

As far as the bitter comments go, they were taken out of context completely. Let me try and spell it out for those of you who would rather listen to what people like those that brought you 8 years of W then to read them themselves. What BO said was that people gave up on expecting the government to act in their economic interests, and the only issues they thing that are left to them is their cultural legacy as in hunting and their faith in god, and that’s what they vote on. And believe me, as long as W and his cronies get to keep fleecing you, they will be more than happy to pander to you on those two issues.

As far as Mac goes, I personally like him, but I think that as a president he would be a disaster for the middle class and the bitter, gun toting, church going folk. He will mortgage the future of your children in order to line the pockets of the upper 5%. If you think you have it bad now, just wait till you have to pay $7.00 for a gallon of gas.

Posted by: Alex | May 8, 2008 6:05:21 AM

Attention Hillary; we all know most of your votes came from Republicans who crossed over temp. to try and help you win the Democratic Nomination. When your seat comes up, you will not have enough support from the Democratic voters to get re-elected!

Posted by: Demo Rules | May 8, 2008 5:58:11 AM

I think Obama and clinton need to come together. An Obama-Clinton ticket would be unstoppable. Maybe that is why fox has been fueling this fire from the beginning. McCain couldn't compete.
And it will bring us all together to fix this broken country of ours.

Posted by: KURT | May 8, 2008 5:00:49 AM

Oops I,m sorry I didn't mean to double post.

Posted by: Bob4USA | May 8, 2008 4:17:14 AM

"You are right! This is a no-brainer, Obama got half of his delegates uncontested, he wouldn't get all of them today. We know too much!"

Just curious, Sylvia...what is it that "we" know (clearly not counting those poor slobs in North Carolina)?

Posted by: Ethan | May 8, 2008 4:17:07 AM

Lets find out how Obama supporters have been bamboozled, lied too, manipulated, conned into such an emotional frenzies that all their common sense, logic and reason have been thrown under the bus like the majority of Americans who earn less than $250,000.

The formula:

1. agitate to engage emotions by telling stories of wounded veteran, the poor and uninsured.

2. Give message or spew lies

3. Heal with feel good emotions by giving feel good quotes, tell joke, tell story with happy ending.

Everything in step 2 when the emotions are engaged becomes absolute truth with out question. Why because we are hurt emotionally (Step 1) by the peoples true stories at this point all common sense, reasoning and logic have totally been thrown under the bus. Step 2. Everything said becomes truth eve if a bunch of has just been spewed. Step 3 Ensures that you feel good emotionally about the message or lies just spewed to you and again all common sense, reasoning, and logic are thrown under the bus again. This is the reason why Obama can only give prepared teleprompter speeches and Obama fails to answer questions from the audience or in Debates. He only knows how to speak using this formula in prepared speeches. Obama supporters, DNC and Super-delegates vote for Hillary and tell Obama the jig is up and tell Obama to end his candidacy for President of the USA.

Posted by: Bob4USA | May 8, 2008 4:08:19 AM

I love both Obama AND Hillary! Why? It doesn't matter which of them win the Dem nomination...they're putting John McCain in the whitehouse. Thanks so much!

Posted by: it takes a village to raise audacity | May 8, 2008 4:06:20 AM

You are right! This is a no-brainer, Obama got half of his delegates uncontested, he wouldn't get all of them today. We know too much!

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | May 8, 2008 3:47:48 AM

Harley writes: "I can understand the African American vote but even they should see through this man who never acknowledges them."

Oh, because Clinton and McCain do?

I assume it hasn't escaped your notice that Obama's greatest problem right now is a certain preacher whose ties to the militant black community scare the bejeezus out of us white folk?

He can't win if he's too black, and now he can't win if he's not black enough. Perfect. McCain '08. Fine. Whatever.

Posted by: Ethan | May 8, 2008 3:36:59 AM

This is foolish dont act like racists be a real man.. Obama is gona be the nominee......CheeRs.. Wink Wink Hillary ur gona lose......

Posted by: Mr XX | May 8, 2008 3:28:43 AM

"Scorched earth sounds better to me than President Obama."

And that's why you'll remain bitter, frustrated, and drowning in your own utter lack of political influence, Harley.

Posted by: Ethan | May 8, 2008 3:07:31 AM

Bob4usa..I agree with your comments. This office of Presidency should be filled by someone of judgement, character, patriotism and experience. Obama is the weakest candidate in all these very important areas. America is a youth obsessed culture...just watch American Idol and the numbers who vote weekly. This Hillary supporter will work for McCain campaign come September and I have faith the good people of this country will deliver John McCain as our 44th President. I actually hope Hillary does not take the VP spot if they offer. I cannot vote Obama under any circumstances, even if I know Hillary is walking him through it.

Posted by: Debra | May 8, 2008 2:49:10 AM

"Side by side, it is so clear who is qualified."

McCain all the way!

(Just trying to help, Debra.)

Posted by: Ethan | May 8, 2008 2:48:50 AM

I think most of Hillary's supporters are thinking McCain looks better and better. It would be hard for them to vote for a candidate who gave her the finger in 2 speeches in one day. Just to join the gang of thug Obama supporters would be more than most can stand. It is not because he is black. He is not the caliber of individual her working class supporters can relate to. Too far left. Too elitist. Too untruthful with the Rev. Wright issue.
They can picture Rev. Wright's office in the White House.

Posted by: dgh | May 8, 2008 2:44:11 AM

Harley I so agree with you. I know a die hard Democrat who has always voted for a Dem and this year he says he's going to have to vote McCain. Many MILLIONS of us feel that way. I am so curious what percentage of this country is college kids. I know blacks are 13%, liberal - radicals, I don't know that percentage either. I can tell you centrists are the voting block that usually determine the outcome and Hillary is that candidate. She and McCain would have had a good run. I will make a t-shirt HILLARY SUPPORTER VOTING McCAIN, and wear it proudly.

Posted by: Debra | May 8, 2008 2:40:09 AM

If Hillary doesn't get the nomination, I hope she burns the place down on her way out. I'm sick of 18 year olds that know nothing about the world deciding who the nominee of my once great party is. I can understand the African American vote but even they should see through this man who never acknowledges them. I am one of those Hillary supporters who see McCain looking better and better. At least, I have confidence he will not rock the boat for the 4 years until Hillary can run again. People need to understand that the 50 percent of Hillary supporters that said they will not support Obama are real and it's only going to lead to a 49 state lose for him. Burn it down Hillary!! Scorched earth sounds better to me than President Obama.

Posted by: Harley. | May 8, 2008 2:34:31 AM

"It was expected that she would lose North Carolina. Indiana was supposed to be the test for her and she pulled it off."

It was expected that she would lose North Carolina, but not by that much. It was expected that she would win Indiana, but not by that little.

Posted by: Ethan | May 8, 2008 2:25:13 AM

I agree Mark...you should go to the Numbers Battling Data site here at ABC and read the poll numbers. They are so quick to count her out and yet time and again, she polls better than BO against McCain. When are they going to get it. I feel money, billionaire liberal/radicals BOUGHT this nom for BO. They "bundle" their money into his campaign...because how many college kids and African Americans can keep donating up to $2,300? Really.
I hope she wins big in next two primaries...wish she could win 92% of the white vote the way Obama get's 92% of African American vote.

Posted by: Debra | May 8, 2008 2:21:08 AM

"If Obama loses the Democratic Nomination for President his supporters say they will riot in the streets. Obama supporters want to turn the USA into third world countries like Kenya and Zimbabwe."

Yeah, you got me there, Bob4USA. Turning the USA into Kenya and rioting in the streets is totally what I'm all about as an Obama supporter. Did I mention that I'm also elitist and possibly Mooslim?

Young voters and African-American voters will not riot in the streets if Obama is denied the nomination that he won fair and square. They will simply stay home next time, and many times after that. If this suits your purposes, I can only hope that you're ready to be asked for the next couple decades what those purposes really were -- given that they clearly have nothing to do with promoting the platform of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Ethan | May 8, 2008 2:18:18 AM

Hillary lost North Carolina because about 40% of democratic voters there are african american.

Suprise, suprise, why do you think 9 out of 10 blacks vote for obama?

It was expected that she would lose North Carolina. Indiana was supposed to be the test for her and she pulled it off.

Now the media is twisting the news to their advantage. But for months it's been known she wouldn't win N. Carolina.

Posted by: Mark | May 8, 2008 2:14:24 AM

Hey, Racism guy...that's not what it's about with Hillary supporters. BO could be purple, he just does't have the judgement, character, patriotism, or experience. He needs more than 143 days in the Senate to be handed the Presidency. Let's looks at resumes for this toughest job in the world...McCain, Clinton....believable..Obama...not so much!!!!!!

Posted by: Debra | May 8, 2008 1:57:27 AM

Was just reading blogs about possible running mates for McCain and someone mentioned Hillary won 217,313 votes in AZ to Obmam's 80,774 and I guess McCain didn't bring in as many votes as Hillary in his home state? That's the way they made it sound.
Hillary should so be the candidate to go up against McCain.

Posted by: Debra | May 8, 2008 1:54:24 AM

Wow, now that Hillary is against the wall, the fundamental racism of her supporters is really coming out. That's because it's all they have left. They're starting to admit that they don't really care about Hillary. They just don't want to see a Black president. This is frightening.

Posted by: Racism is Not a Campaign Platform | May 8, 2008 1:51:25 AM

Did Obama mention the cyclone in Myanmar last night in his speech? Clinton did because she "thinks" Presidential. I bet he didnt'....does someone know...I can't stand to hear him yell speeches and rarelly watch him.
So glad Russert spent 14 minutes talking with him about Rev. Wright last Sunday and yet we still know nothing with his stepping around all his answers. McCain is going to so make mince meat of him...can't wait.

Posted by: Debra | May 8, 2008 1:15:26 AM

The debates and primaries are for show casing the strengths and weaknesses of the candidates and their solutions for issues for the voters. The debates and the primaries are for the people so they can make an informed decision and vote for who is the best candidate who demonstrates Presidential qualities, experience, able to answer question easily with real substance and to the point, support the plans and solutions for issues that will benefit the people not the elitist aristocracy or hidden radical agendas. Obama refuses to do any more debates because he is a sore loser he performed miserably by not answering the questions with straight forward to the point answers and lost all of the debates. Obama is scared that his elitist beliefs and attitudes towards the people of the USA and his disrespect and hate of the USA and its people will be completely exposed. Obama is scared that his true greedy desires in obtaining power and money will be completely exposed. Late breaking news Illinois Senator Obama laundered money (personal income) from Blackwell through his the lawyer firm he worked for prior to his being elected to the Illinois Senate. Blackwell who received political favors from Obama and Obama received donations for campaigns and hidden personal income. Obama will be indicted for these criminal actions. Obama is scared his actions, lack of action and very questionable associates clearly demonstrate Obama’s true intentions and agendas. Obama is scared that all the negative things Obama has accused Hillary of doing and saying in this campaign are actually the very actions and things Obama has been doing and saying not Hillary. Obama is scared his lack of confidence and inexperience will be completely exposed. Another very important reason Obama is scared and will not debate is Obama can’t remember all the lies he has told during his campaign. Here are 76 lies and counting that Obama has told us at http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/?page_id=15 Find more lies told by Obama at www.hillaryclinton.com Click on the icon Fact Check. If Obama loses the Democratic Nomination for President his supporters say they will riot in the streets. Obama supporters want to turn the USA into third world countries like Kenya and Zimbabwe. Rioting in the streets because, Obama has been exposed as a spoiled brat; weak, wimpy, arrogant, elitist, inexperienced, corrupt, racist and radical to the extremes are character traits, beliefs and actions of Obama that will cause him to lose this race for the President of the USA. Rioting in the streets is very immature and stupid like Odinga, Obama’s cousin who incited riots and death squads in Kenya. Mugabe did the same in Zimbabwe because he is a mentally challenged immature violent sore loser like Odinga. The USA is a country that provides many freedoms for its people example: right of free speech and the right to vote as we please. Be smart make an informed decision and vote for the most qualified and experienced candidate for President of the USA Hillary Clinton who respects the people, who listens to the people, has compassion for the people of the USA. Hillary will fix the economy and fight for the people of the USA by creating solutions for real changes that benefits all the people of the USA. Hillary will unite the people of the USA, restore the US Constitution and win back the respect of our people and the respect for our government of the USA world wide. Hillary has real substantial solutions for real changes that make sense and will help all of us. Go to Hillary’s web site and explore it www.hillaryclinton.com Look at Hillary’s detailed solutions for real changes on the economy, healthcare, education, veterans benefits, Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Read Hillary’s speeches, fact check, attack timeline (of Obama attacks on Hillary), Women for Hillary, and all the other great places on Hillary’s web site to find out more about Hillary so you can make a informed decision and vote for Hillary. While you are visiting Hillary’s web site www.hillaryclinton.com make donations to Hillary’s campaign.

Posted by: Bob4USA | May 8, 2008 12:49:37 AM

I love how MSNBC said this morning that Obama has worked in the Senate 143 days!
Wow, what a resume. And he compares himself to JFK, 12 years in the Senate befor Presidency. The audacity of hope has never been truer.

Posted by: Debra | May 8, 2008 12:45:51 AM

With the support of the media that undermined the Democratic nomination process, Obama will crash and burn in November if he swipes the nomination, and the Democratic Party will be a train wreck. Radical left wing liberal George McGovern lost every single state except one state in the general election; same will happen with Obama, a radical left wing liberal.

Sen. Clinton is fighting for the future of America; the superdelegates must select the best qualified candidate for the presidency using their independent judgment and that is Sen. Clinton.

Posted by: crat3 | May 8, 2008 12:40:29 AM

"Can't wait to hear the messiah's take on reparations and how a monster tax increase will help the economy."

Can't wait to hear Hillary's take on how a gas tax holiday will help us combat a dependency upon fossil fuels which was already poised well enough to destroy us before she and John McCain came along.

Posted by: Ethan | May 8, 2008 12:27:23 AM

Hillary's supporters are such sore losers. Poor things. Bitter, Bitter, Bitter. I wonder who they got that from? Get a grip guys!

Posted by: Help Needed - HRC Exit Strategy | May 8, 2008 12:02:32 AM

Can't wait to hear the messiah's take on reparations and how a monster tax increase will help the economy.

Posted by: vcw | May 7, 2008 11:31:32 PM

".last 8 out of 10 Presidential elections...REPUBLICANS WIN."

It's acutally 7 out of 10, but I wouldn't count the 2000 "win" as a win. Al Gore won and he would have won in 2004 as well. It would then be 5 out of 10. But nevermind we will have a two term Democratic president in the coming years for starters to bring it back to 5 out of 10.

btw the democrats won 10 out of the last 19 even with the GW Bush scam.

Posted by: sam | May 7, 2008 11:24:30 PM

"For what it's worth Hillary supporters not voting for Obama are growing larger in numbers."

For what it's worth, Debra, where does that leave them? The phrase "used by Republicans" springs readily enough to mind.

If you want McCain, you will have McCain. I wash my hands of it.

Posted by: Ethan | May 7, 2008 11:17:58 PM

Hillary is everything we thought she
was, and more. Unfortunately, it's
coming back to bite her....in spades.

Posted by: hombre | May 7, 2008 11:09:47 PM

This is going to go on despite the 4 super d's that came out for BO today. They had them last week, but were keeping them for today's news, to diffuse Obama's loss in Indiana. Want to keep the appearances alive. Delusional Dems...never can get it right. Track record...last 8 out of 10 Presidential elections...REPUBLICANS WIN. AMERICA HISTORICALLY VOTES RIGHT OF CENTER......DOES THAT DESCRIBE OBAMA?

Posted by: Debra | May 7, 2008 10:58:40 PM

Florida and Michigan played chicken with the party and lost. Any resolution which in any way recognizes their sham primaries would be a gross injustice to all the states and territories that followed the rules.

We keep hearing that Florida's Republicans were responsible and we shouldn't punish the Democrats. Well, what about the fact that many Democratic state legislators voted for the bill? Why, instead of working to find an alternative to a state-run primary or suing the state for setting a primary date that violated the rules of BOTH national parties, did Florida Democrats sue the Democratic National Committee (unsuccessfully) for simply enforcing rules that they willfully chose to violate? The answer is simple: Florida Democrats were just as complicit as Michigan Democrats were in this assault on the rules and they are still trying to be rewarded for it.

Let's be clear: it's not just the early states that they tried to cheat; it's every state or territory that followed the rules. We should all be mad as Hell if they get away with it.

Posted by: Ted | May 7, 2008 10:57:03 PM

Nice try, dude. This primary game--and the charade that Hillary still has a chance--is over. Why does the media insist on resurrecting a horse that's been dead since Obama went 10 and 0 in February?

Any impartial analysis of this situation can only conclude that Clinton's campaign is finished. Any contributers she has left at this point are doing nothing but throwing good money after bad.

Posted by: William J. | May 7, 2008 10:35:55 PM

TO DAVE: Before you write your diatribe GO READ HIS BOOKS. Talking about being racist and hating whites... I would like to see those food stamps they have been lately mentioning. What a joke! His WHITE grandparents send him to prestigious schools. He doesn't even know what a food stamp looks like. As for the answer to your question: HILLARY DID PLENTY. What about your hero that was writing hate books and raking in millions rather than doing his job as an Illinois senator?

Posted by: Starlight | May 7, 2008 10:34:07 PM

WE CLINTON SUPPORTERS need to contact our Congressmen and US Senators and Howard Dean and insist on Michigan and Florida delegates being seated fairly. No 50/50 split which would cancel Hillary’s legitimate wins.


It is ridiculous for Obama supporters to insist that the "voters" in those states DESERVE to lose their voice because the State Party Organizations broke some rules. When did any of us get to decide when or how we vote in primaries or in the general? Get Real...the voters are always innocent bystanders.


Florida can be counted “as is" since Obama and Clinton were on the ballot and no one was favored.


Michigan needs a revote and since they are going to vote on statewide measures on Aug 5th, there is NO REASON why they can't choose between Clinton and Obama at the same time.


Right now, it is Obama and his supporters who are blocking any Michigan revote or Florida seating for that matter.

WE VOTERS need to write Howard Dean and our state superdelegates and convince them that we WILL NOT STAND for the contest to be stacked in favor of Obama because "his supporters might get upset". Hillary's supporters WILL GET UPSET as well if she doesn't get a fair shake and that includes the votes she got from Michigan and Florida. (The media and Howard Dean act as if Obama, by virtue of being black, has a higher claim than Hillary. Listen and you will hear this outrageous bias everywhere.)


If Obama gets his way, it will be all of us who lose since he will have NO chance in November without the support of Michigander and Floridian voters as well as angry voters such as me. We must promise retribution if Howard Dean and the credentials committee refuse to play fair.

Write congress.org and Howard Dean at democrats.org

Do this today and pass it on please. Time is running out and the Rules Committee is meeting at the end of May.

Posted by: Hillary to the end | May 7, 2008 10:25:58 PM

Frankly, Florida and Michigan are simply disgusting for this party, regardless of which candidate is supported.

In Florida you have a Republican House, Senate, and Governor. Exactly how were the Florida voters expected to remedy this? I hear over and over about "the rules" but I find it unbelievable that this party after having endured Florida in 2000 would even go down the road it is on. Barack Obama had the chance to really be not the usual politician and instead sat on delegate math and dug in his heels when it came to a re-vote. The states were punished when the party did not campaign there. The loss of dollars and attention was a punishment. Loping off the heads of innocent voters is just draconian.