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Hillary Mentions RFK Assassination When Discussing Why She's Staying in the Race

May 23, 2008 4:28 PM

In an interview with the Argus (SD) Leader editorial board today, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, took the unusual step of invoking the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy, D-NY, when discussing reasons why she was staying in the presidential race.

Asked about calls for her to drop out, Clinton said, “This is part of an ongoing effort to end this before it’s over. I sure don’t think it’s over." She mentioned how non-frontrunners took their delegates to the convention in 1980, 1984, 1988, and 1992.

Suggesting that Obama's campaign has been the source of stories about a unity ticket with her as vice president, Clinton said, "people have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."

Clinton was then asked if she doesn't think that those calling for the ticket are actually interested in uniting the party.

"I don’t because I’ve been around long enough," she said. "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know, I don't understand it. And there's lots of speculation about why it is."

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton responded: “Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign."

The Clinton campaign responds that Clinton "was simply referencing her husband in 1992 and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 as historic examples of the nominating process going well into the summer. Any reading into beyond that would be inaccurate."

- jpt

May 23, 2008 in Clinton, Hillary | Permalink | User Comments (125)

User Comments

I am so glad that she said it! Now can we get on with the Presidential race?

jj

Posted by: jjjallen | May 27, 2008 7:00:25 PM

My feelings about Hillary: She's dangerous if she's off Obama's ticket and she's dangerous if she's on Obama's ticket. Actually, she does not want second place under any circumstances! SHE DESERVES to be president because she wanted to be president come January 09, pure and simple. If she can't have it, she can't live with herself. I'm pretty sure her "cheerleader" husband keeps her psyched up all the time so that she does not become mentally lucid about how far out on the limb she already is. Only God can help us now, so pray!

Posted by: Markos | May 24, 2008 8:21:33 PM

For the Hillary supporters who think this is just Hillary mentioning a time in History, it is much more than that. Hillary was asked why she was staying in the race. She said Bill Clinton didn't wrap it up until June. She could have said that RFK was still campaiging in June of 1968 or she could have used another reference. She said remember he was assassinated in June as her reason for staying in. Either she is staying in hoping Obama is assassinated or she is planning something herself. The suggestion was cold, unfeeling and thoughtless no matter what she meant when she said it. I am an Obama supporter but I don't defend everything he says or does. I call him out when he is wrong. Saying Hillary was wrong doesn't mean you don't support her just means you know right from wrong. This was so wrong and no amount of spin can make it sound right.

Posted by: Diana Baskin | May 24, 2008 6:43:42 PM

For all those Clinton supporters that think this is Obama and the press trying to slander her:

Any rational person can view the full clip and see it is exactly as reported: she is hoping something bad will happen to Barack. That is the only possible way she could become the candidate.

Any hope she had of becoming VP is gone...we now know she will be hoping for his death.

The "excuse" that she is tired and mis-spoke is simply inexcusable in this position. I would hate to see this woman answer the phone at 3am.

She has been forgiven for way too many of these 'oops" comments. It proves her incompetence. It is the reason Obama is winning. Everyone except the die-hard Hillary supporters see her as treacherous. They don't just don't trust her. It has nothing to do with her being a woman...but being the deceitful woman she has proven herself to be.

But I know I am preaching to the choir. Hillary supporters are proven to be illogical, seemingly driven by some deep emotional or psychological issue...some weird hatred...the rest of us cannot comprehend.

I just fear for the direction of the nation. McCain cannot be president. We are at a breaking point.

Posted by: EMM | May 24, 2008 12:58:36 PM

before she embarasses herself, her party and her nation any further.
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ummmm....too late!

Posted by: MI VOTER | May 24, 2008 11:17:23 AM

Clinton called talk of her taking the VP slot as an "ongoing effort to end this before it’s over"

And what was it when she talked of offering Obama the VP slot earlier in the campaign?

Hillary Clinton, vampire candidate

Posted by: hmpierson | May 24, 2008 10:52:55 AM

Oh...the Clinton gloss-over is in full swing. The sugar coating goes like this... "She said this ... but she really meant this ...... She inferred this .. but she really meant this". Don't ya love it!?
There has been a fear, quietly murmured around water coolers at work and in private conversations - about the risk of something happening to Obama since he's the first black man to have a legitimate chance to be President. Well - thanks for bringing it to the headlines Hillary. Are you obsessed about the demise of Barack? - apparenty so.. this is not the first time you've mentioned this sick scenario.
So malignant and power hungry the Clinton's are that such things could possibly be inferred by them - even in the most remote sense.
Mistake or not, exhausted or not, gaffe or not, didn't mean it or not - NEVER - repeat - NEVER - say "assasination". This is not Politics 101 -
it's simply Humanity 101.

Posted by: M Lewis | May 24, 2008 9:33:09 AM

I didn't think that narcissistic personality disorders were communicable. Given some of the comments I see from some Clinton supporters, they may very well be. For a narcissist, it's never what they've said or done, it's how other people react to it that's the problem.

I was disturbed by Hillary's attempt to link seating the Florida and Michigan delegations to Zimbabwe. I wondered whether she was implying that blood would flow in the streets if she didn't get her way. Yesterday's comments and non-apology are simply unacceptable. Someone needs to drag this nut case off the stage with a hook before she embarasses herself, her party and her nation any further.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | May 24, 2008 8:09:49 AM

The problem with the defense that she was just comparing it to a long primary is that RFK's campaign in '68 didn't begin until March 16th when he announced he was entering the race. The first Primary he competed in wasn't until May 10th, thus RFK was only 4 weeks into his campaign when he was assassinated, not part of a drawn-out primary. There is no comparison aside from his assassination occurring in June.

This was a grave mistake on her part and puts Barack, as well as McCain, Hillary and even Bush in jeopardy. I have worked with the mentally ill for 13 years and many who suffer from delusions are very susceptible to this kind of suggestive language. The last attempted assassination of a President was against Reagan and his assailant was schizophrenic. There is no place in politics for a seasoned politician to make these kind of dangerous and incredibly offensive comments.

Posted by: Tane | May 24, 2008 5:30:51 AM

I have just 2 things to say to Obama: 'Beware the Ides of June!" Watch your back around Hillary! If Hillary (and Bill) are selected as VP it WILL TAKE A VILLAGE to watch Obama's back!

Posted by: bill | May 24, 2008 3:20:31 AM

Howdy Doody,

Yes, I agree.
Four article at the same time just release, can you believe it?

Posted by: catleya | May 24, 2008 2:34:05 AM

Get a grip, people, and stop trying to slander Senator Clinton. The only reason she brought it up was to reference the date of Bobby Kennedy's primary contest, which had run into June. Bobby Kennedy was obviously campaigning when he was assassinated and that was in JUNE.

The only reason this is even an issue is because the Obama campaign egged on the media with their first statement they issued about it saying the following:

"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

Bobby Kennedy JR has already denounced what the Obama campaign has done and said he knows Senator Clinton did not mean anything other than the date when she referenced it.

This is clearly another smear campaign being run by Obama & friends to take away from the fact that she wiped the floor with him in WV & Kentucky and will do so in Puerto Rico and that she leads him in the important swing states in the polls for the general election, while Obama loses to McCain in those same states. He's desperate and scared. If he and his campaign really thought he could win this nomination, he wouldn't have said a word about this or started yet another smear campaign.

Posted by: Howdy Doody | May 23, 2008 10:15:54 PM

Well, you say you think her comments were just, well, a mistake....or ?

Just take a strollover to your closest airport and make some off-handed comment about "having a gun" or "did you bring that bomb?"

See what happens then. They don't take jokes very kindly and neither does that American public.

Huckabee snuffed his chances of being McCain's VP with his comments last week and Clinton killed hers this week.

Posted by: dennis | May 23, 2008 10:13:11 PM

4 Stories on ABC's site in one day about this NONISSUE????

JUST HOW MUCH IS THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN PAYING ABC PER STORY???

Posted by: Howdy Doody | May 23, 2008 9:34:08 PM

I don't think Hillary meant anything sinister by this. It was just a poor choice of words.

Her detractors in the media are using this as an excuse to force her to drop out. They know that Obama doesn't have enough pledged delegates to win the nomination and they don't want this to go to the convention because Obama might lose.

Posted by: Karen | May 23, 2008 9:31:23 PM

Get a grip, people, and stop trying to slander Senator Clinton. The only reason she brought it up was to reference the date of Bobby Kennedy's primary contest, which had run into June. Bobby Kennedy was obviously campaigning when he was assassinated and that was in JUNE.

The only reason this is even an issue is because the Obama campaign egged on the media with their first statement they issued about it saying the following:

"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

Bobby Kennedy JR has already denounced what the Obama campaign has done and said he knows Senator Clinton did not mean anything other than the date when she referenced it.

This is clearly another smear campaign being run by Obama & friends to take away from the fact that she wiped the floor with him in WV & Kentucky and will do so in Puerto Rico and that she leads him in the important swing states in the polls for the general election, while Obama loses to McCain in those same states. He's desperate and scared. If he and his campaign really thought he could win this nomination, he wouldn't have said a word about this or started yet another smear campaign.

Posted by: Howdy Doody | May 23, 2008 9:17:07 PM

The Bobby Kennedy comment was in the follow-up to the question about the drawn out process "hurting the party". Her answer, when taken IN CONTEXT, is a response to the time frame of this race going into June or further. I don't think she's waiting for anyone to be killed...heck, they are both targets with how divisive this has been. Their is a reason they both have security.

The Democratic Party has historically proven itself strong enough to bounce back from even greater tragedies than HRC staying in the game until one of them has the number of delegates needed to be the nominee, and/or FL and MI are settled, or it is decided at convention. Who can deny that the most notable event our Party has endured is of course, the 1968 convention? We united after that, and will survive this too.

Those that are spouting concerns about "party unity" may want to study the Democratic Party's history. "Unity" will happen when the process is allowed to play out and be completed...it always does. Strip HRC and her supporters of the right to complete the process though, it could be a whole new, and perhaps final chapter for the Democratic Party. If you want "Unity" start with "civility."

Posted by: Amy | May 23, 2008 9:07:30 PM

Instead of spinning it erroneously, go to ABC news and view both clips of her remarks.

Posted by: PNolan | May 23, 2008 8:44:18 PM

Those who continue to believe that Hillary, who is a wealthy lawyer and knows the importance of words, is just speaking off the cuff and is being mis-interpreted are just as insincere as your candidate.

Posted by: fool me once | May 23, 2008 8:25:38 PM

American10 | May 23, 2008 7:39:31 PM

WHAT YOU SAID WAS OFFENSIVE!

WHO CARES IF YOU MEANT IT?

IT WAS A DEROGATORY RACIST COMMENT..... AND HAD A HILLARY OR MCCAIN SUPPORTER SAID SUCH A THING.... bo'S MINIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THEM.....like you're all over Hillary for unintentionally offending B O.

I remember the days of free speech.... when no one paid somebody else to build themself up with offtopic villainous barbs and garbage ,,, like the stuff in this blog.

How much does Obama pay you for stooping so low?

Posted by: eyes wide open | May 23, 2008 8:19:01 PM

She probabaly didnt mean anything by it and was referring to past nominations. What was wrong was using that as an example and saying it out loud. You never know who might take a statement like that and think "good idea". There are some real crack pots out there. When running for the highest position in the country, one should be more resposible than that. We all know that it was just an unthought statement and I know the media will spin it out of control as they have done with Clinton, Obama and McCain on really silly points. However it is still something that should have never been said especailly with all the racist nuts listening. Thats what she should apologize for.

Posted by: CW | May 23, 2008 8:12:18 PM

What a classic move … read Shakespeare’s Richard the Second to see how the king (a weak & increasingly pathetic figure) makes a veiled reference to get his main challenger killed … and when he is, the king expresses surprise and remorse!!
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As I have been trying to hold on to some kind of respect for Hillary, she is repeatedly demonstrating that ..
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NO EVIL MOVE is too low for her. NO SELF-SERVING, power-grabbing desperation is beyond her .. and her spin machine.
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Very sad. As with our earlier “choice”, it seems we get the leaders we deserve - UNLESS we send a clear message that we will not take this anymore.
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P.S. Homework Assignment: Ponder whether the citizen apologizers for Clinton are doing it knowingly or are they in the daze experienced by followers of charismatic “strong” leaders?
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Posted by: Orion | May 23, 2008 8:04:51 PM

With all the racism, sexism, and age descrimination in this election, it will set the country back 200 years. That's why we need Hillary to make us pure like we were before.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 23, 2008 7:57:01 PM

Hillary's reasons for being in this race are becoming more and more bizarre. Next she'll probably claim god is talking directly to her and she's only doing his will. What a wacko.

Posted by: fool me once | May 23, 2008 7:56:53 PM

American10...So you didn't mean what you said when referencing a spade is a spade. Why should we believe that. Why would we take what you said at face value? You don't take what Hillary said that was a fact? Could that be because you really were offending people of color??? That is terrible.

Posted by: carolyn | May 23, 2008 7:48:58 PM

I meant mirror, in my last message, sorry about that.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 23, 2008 7:44:46 PM

merican10...If your looking for the truth you are backing the wrong guy. Obama has told more lies than any candidate in History. Rezko, Wright, Hamas, Auchi, Farrakhan etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: carolyn | May 23, 2008 7:43:44 PM

Im almost sure it was just a bad comment and she didnt mean any thing by it. She is running for the Dem nomination and should be more careful about using those kind of examples when giving reasons to stay in though. What I do not understand is some of the Clinton supporters wont even admit it was a bad thing to say. No matter what she does some of them just seem blind to it. Her name could be Hillary Manson
the way some of her supporters are attached to her no matter what she does.
Its almost scary. Obama has slipped and made a statement that came out wrong and Obama himself and most of his supporters admitted it was a bad statement regardless of what he meant to say and we moved on. Today Hillary aplogized, but didnt aplogize for even using such a sad example, but just aplogized if any one and most of all the Kennedy family took offense. It wasnt the offending she should aplogize for but the using that knd of example to stay in the race. She is desperate and tired my friends. I gave her the my understanding because this is a free country and she should be able to run as long as she wants. But now, not only does she look like she is trying to win underhanded but with statements like that, are hurting the whole Dem. party. I think its time for the SDs to step in and put an end to this for everyones good. If they do she will probably not reconize their decision either. Its a shame I really use to like her. Obama 08

Posted by: CW | May 23, 2008 7:42:03 PM

American10, I looked in the mirrow and almost fell over.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 23, 2008 7:41:53 PM

A new low for Hillary. I can't believe people still think she should be president, she's has no honor or class whatsoever.

Posted by: fool me once | May 23, 2008 7:39:34 PM

Anders Scooper

Wow, there are some people out here that don't get it..

My last statement was to show how offline "Eyes wide open" was off point of my message of calling a Spade a Spade.

It means it is what it is.

No reference to color or race.

Unless you use that type of verbage to describe a person..

Being black I don't, maybe you do..

Take a look in the mirror..

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 7:39:31 PM

cappamore

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I agree, they're twisting her words, but it's more like they're twisting the twister. Remember how Bill/Hillary unabashedly twisted Obama's reference to Ronald Reagan?

Posted by: ddd | May 23, 2008 7:33:14 PM

Don't know.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 23, 2008 7:28:40 PM

EYES EXTREMELYWIDE OPEN

The sky is blue, is my statement now.

That means I hate all people with blue eyes.

The gound is black.

That means I hate all black people.

The eye of the needle is small.

That means I hate all Asians

Dumb is as Dumb Do

That means I hate all dumb people

A Club is a card, a Spade is a card a Heart is a card, a Club is a card.

That means I hate people who play cards

Dumber Dumbest tremendously Dumb..

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 7:27:19 PM

I can't believe the media is playing the age discrimination card on John McCain.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 23, 2008 7:25:50 PM

And speaking of Mr. Obama's shady friends, has a verdict been reached in Tony Rezko's trial yet??

Posted by: SandyB | May 23, 2008 7:24:56 PM

This is nothing, with all the questions about Obama's shady friends why would anyone comment on this.

Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 23, 2008 7:21:56 PM

Hillary is a nut case.

Posted by: Thinking | May 23, 2008 7:07:46 PM

carolyn

My apologies to you, after the last statement it is clear that you are one of the SHEEP OF AMERICA.

And you want to remain a sheep.

Obama wants you and all Ameiricans to have a VOICE IN DEMOCRACY.

The SHEEP wants someone to lead them to greener pastures and FATEN them up for the KILL.

As Bill did when he created all those jobs, then gave them all away in NAFTA.

Fools make the same mistake over, and over and over.

Where will you stand.

American or SHEEP in America

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 7:06:27 PM

dl

If the tables had been turned, and Mr. Obama had made that statement about Bill Clinton and RFK in June, I would have just been glad to see that he had gotten his U.S. History correct for a change, and probably wouldn't make anything out of it at all.

Posted by: SandyB | May 23, 2008 7:05:52 PM

Nobo'

Your faith in Obama is admirable.I did not put in words I do not mean and I do not need to take lessons in phrasing from you.
"She will do or say anything to get elected"
"Monster"
"Liar"
These were not responses to mud being thrown at Obama or his surrogates,these were uncalled for statements and comments from the Obama campaign and his surrogates.
My memory is not short enough not to remember this and other full of hate remarks against Hillary on a fine day in November.

Posted by: Misrepresentation | May 23, 2008 7:03:33 PM

power2people...Obama is hearing God damn America ringing in his ears. "for the first time in my adult life I am proud to be an American. This is what Obama stands for. The Clinton's have given America plenty. A great and thriving economy for all. Obama guarantees us nothing. The Clinton's did that for all races, colors and creed. Obama stands for black theology. This is what America wants in a President???

Posted by: carolyn | May 23, 2008 7:01:01 PM

Okay Imagine the tables were turned and Barack said he was staying in arace because "Bill clinton wasn't confirmed until June and we know RFK was assasinated in June"

Imagine Barack saying that about Hillary...

Now can Hillary supporters who are trying to say this was simply a historical reference... okay there are lots of references she could have used is she that dumb that she would reference a situation where a candidate was assasinated as to the example of why she was staying in.

Stupid or downright disgusting...I would like to just think stupid but at this point it's getting hard to do.

Posted by: dl | May 23, 2008 6:59:03 PM


I hope Clinton refuses to have anything to do with B O should he win the nomination!

Hillary will always be a valuable asset to our country, and has taken enough crap from BO (though never directly!) to last her til forever.

He does not deserve to benefit from her brilliance and energy and she does not need the work.

Clinton deserves more than a just a position wherein she would be a political repairman dedicated to fixing unsurmountable problems after BO's forseeable, unstoppable up-coming world-affecting blunders.


At least half of this country wants Hillary for our top dog, head honcho, POTUS;
It would be a waste of her talents to settle Vice president.


I remember the days when everything was determined at the conventions...

I look forward to that again!


Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN | May 23, 2008 6:58:55 PM

carolyn

Oh by the way, I don't hate anyone, I just call a SPADE A SPADE.

And this lawyer will do anything to win.

If you can't see that, you are not only blind, one would have to question your intelligence.

Just my thoughts.

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 6:55:44 PM

Why is something that was said simply as an historical reference so newsworthy??

My late father's birthday was November 22nd. I have always remembered the day JFK was shot by remembering my father's birthday....

Lincoln was shot only a few days after the Civil War ended. Many people remember his assassination date by remembering when the Civil War ended and vice versa.

Last month, everyone was all over the 40th anniversary of the late Martin Luther King Jr.'s assasination, and were replaying where he was and what he did on the day he died.

I'm certain just as many people will be remembering next month the day Bobby was killed.......

Most people remember certain events in a certain way, and by what was going on at the time.

Bobby had just declared victory in the California primary immediately before he was shot, and he was shot in early June. As she was a young woman at the time, I'm sure HRC clearly remembers the circumstances of that day like all of us who were alive then do, and simply puts the two memories together like most people do when recalling things from the past.

It was a terrible day in U.S. History, but nevertheless it WAS the day of the California primary when it occurred. I'm certain all of the news programs that come out next month for the 40th Anniversary of the event will also be mentioning that it was California Primary day, so what's the big deal about HRC mentioning the same thing????

Posted by: SandyB | May 23, 2008 6:53:51 PM

carolyn,

Just say ask yourself why would your GIRL Hillary even compare an assassination to her staying in a Primary.

There were many more comparisons.

If you can't handle the TRUTH, then you are not an EDUCATED VOTER.

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 6:53:47 PM

The BHO camp is pathetic. On a situation, they could have easily show a better side of human nature, to take a high ground and to show some compassion, before Memorial Day. They could easily said - no big deal and let it go. This would probably have had won back 5% of HRC supporters, which would be a very good start. Now you further alienated 5% of HRC supporters, and reaffirmed those who will not vote for this phony in the general election.


In their typical style, they make character assassination.

RFK stayed in a democratic primary without gaining nomination in June when he was assessinated, later than May (at the same time, HRC has been called or declared to quit or out of race since Iowa).

Which part is incorrect, and which part in not factual?

Why you guys cannot take a high road?

It is BHO who preaches 'New Kind of Politics", "Hope", "Change". Do you call this kind of character assassination by BHO camp "Hope" and "Change"?

Posted by: nobo | May 23, 2008 6:52:23 PM

Misrepresentation

You should not say things that you don't mean or not phased correctly.

Speaking of HRC, when she blasted Obama for weeks about "people holding on to guns"

Short memory or selective memory lost.

Wake up America depends on a person like Obama who has tried to keep this Primary CLEAN. BUT Hillary started throwing MUD, then said Obama was not tough enough to FIGHT BACK.

She is a LOOSER.

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 6:47:21 PM

This comment was not that important other than show the timing. Why does ABC come down so hard on Senator Clinton and completely ignore the rubbish that Senator Obama puts out. Senator Obama comments about Cuba were outlandish. What does he plan to do except invade? Most rational people know he was pandering with the Cubans but ABC News does not state that.

Posted by: Mary | May 23, 2008 6:46:37 PM

Simple and factually correct words can be interpreted in the most negative way to serve the purpose of the listeners. I wonder who is behind the scene pushing the story by over analyzing it. This reminds me of the events before SC primary, when the OBama camp tried their best the feed the media and press people to come out suggesting Bill's fairy tale comments and Hillary's LBJ and MLK comments are racial baits and racist.

Who is behind this pushing? Obama camping it doing it again?

Posted by: amy | May 23, 2008 6:42:32 PM

American10...You are and always were an Obamabot. A simple comment like this is just another way for you to show your hate for her. It"s just another way for me to be even more angry at the media and Obamabots for all of their nasty remarks.
Hillary is right once again!!! She stated a fact. If Obama becomes President the tables will turn on them. He will get anyone fired for any factual statement that makes him look bad if twisted or viewed with Obama's perspective. They will all deserve it. It should be fun. Their hands will be tied and deservedly so.

Posted by: carolyn | May 23, 2008 6:40:25 PM

well i am NOT watching the "NEWS" tonight, if that is all they can come up with. and I suggest all of you stop this, and get ready for a nice memorial day picnic and watch the war stories on history channel, they usually have some good one on. also scifi usually has a twilight zone marathon.

but please stop with the stories about sen. clinton wanting to kill obama.
i know you all hate bill clinton,
but sen. clinton has a daughter and a mother that have to listen and watch her be unfairly subjected to all manner of things anyway.
but not this. she would not wish obama dead. and yes obama WILL need her to campaign for him. but at this point i hope she will not.
this is story is no story at all.
good evening

Posted by: worldcitizen | May 23, 2008 6:39:52 PM

HRC defended BHO when George Bush and McCain attacked him.

BHO character-assassinated HRC when she referred historical parallels of non-decision of nomination.

You make the call who is a phony hypocrite.

Posted by: nobo | May 23, 2008 6:37:44 PM

DNC should come out and defend Hillary against these outrageous accusations.MS-OBAMA-NBC is all over it,the crazy panelists have not stopped salivating since this story came out.Shame on them to suggest Hillary was saying anything other than referencing a time frame.We all know it.For the Obama campaign to make statements out of this is outrageous.They began their quest for nomination by framing Bill as a racist and want to end by labeling Hillary as a candidate waiting for a tragedy!

Posted by: Misrepresentation | May 23, 2008 6:36:04 PM

worldcitizen:

I understand your point. The problem with your point is that the media often determines what is and is not news.

Clinton benefited greatly from this throughout March and April, as Obama got hammered for NAFTA-gate and Rev. Wright. She played those up every chance she got. She's on the receiving end now, because of her own (VERY poorly constructed) comments. The only cause for outrage is if Obama tries to use this statement the same way she used, say, NAFTA-gate in Ohio.

This is Hillary Clinton's mess. And it's of her own making. I can't say I have any sympathy for her.

Posted by: BMR, Pittsburgh PA | May 23, 2008 6:33:56 PM

To try to make something out of this is the "old politics" of the lowest order. And Obama "Mr. New Politics" is ramming it down her throat. And the media is trumpeting it. ABC is even running a picture of RFK and Obama in virtually the same pose next to each other. It's so clear that the mainstream media is absolutely desperate to get Hillary out of the race. They don't understand that this just makes her supporters more steadfast. Hang in Hillary!!

Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 23, 2008 6:33:23 PM

countallthevotes and All,

A man or woman is judge by their actions and their words.

Hillary is demonstrating the word that would be a hopefull result of Obama being shot. Grow up.

Assasination of Bobby has no relation to her continuing in the Primary.

Except that she is poisoning the minds of those who would commit such an act for her own gain.

So she said it and now all have to reason why,,
Rev. Wright said something and Obama hae to live with what Wright said, So why should Hillary not be accountable for what she SAID.

this is the third reference of Obama being killed.

Don't be a Fool, she meant what she said as a Lawyer does.

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 6:31:49 PM

Why would she show respect to Senator Obama or the Kennedy family? They are Dems right?
HRC is Charlie Manson in a pants suit.

Posted by: mims nj | May 23, 2008 6:31:44 PM

hopesprings52:

Recall that in March, the media was in Jeremiah Wright overdrive. Virtually nothing Clinton said got that much media traction.

Also, the timing of her remarks today was horrible, in part because the media was already on high alert for code words like "assassination" after Mike Huckabee's comments to the NRA.

Plus, being a Friday, there isn't a lot of news. If, say, McCain's medical records had shown some big problems, her discussion with a local SD paper wouldn't have gotten nearly as much focus.

It's hard to understand sometimes what sticks with the media and with voters. I'm sure that, when Michael Dukakis strapped on that helmet to drive a tank, he had no idea he was effectively ending his campaign.

Posted by: BMR, Pittsburgh PA | May 23, 2008 6:31:23 PM

bmr,
my point is abc and none of the other news outlets you just referenced should be making a story out of this.

it is not news. it is nothing to be reporting.
and it is irresponsible of all of them to be trying to make it so.
no what is happening here, is it is a holiday weekend, they cannot be bothered or there really was no real newsworthy story (i find that hard to believe, but ok i will go with it)
so make this up.

bm-this really is nothing to get all upset about-unless you are one of the people who just want to get upset at hillary clinton over the least little thing.
if all of the news organizations you have mentioned have made this their lead story-i am ashamed of our news organizations-they have all really done the american people a dis-service this election season. it really is to bad,
they all make good money

Posted by: worldcitizen | May 23, 2008 6:27:59 PM

At this point, there is absolutely no reason for the superdelegates to delay stepping forward to put this travesty of a primary out of commission. With her RFK assassination statement, Clinton has absolutely abrogated her right to continue in this campaign. The time is NOW, superdelegates. Now. Not June 3rd, not June 10th. Now. Period.

Hillary is a savvy politician and knew exactly the implications (read that: code) of her RFK assassination comment. With this, she has shown herself to also be a dangerous politician, devoid of scruples. No amount of apology is sufficient to offset the gravity of her, uh, "misstatement," or, as the talking heads are calling it, "an unfortunate mistake." Mistake, my ***. This is criminal!

Posted by: Laura from SC | May 23, 2008 6:26:13 PM

CNN is reporting that Clinton made a similar historical reference in March. So what is the motive for the media/Obama attack right now?

"Clinton made a similar reference to Robert Kennedy in a March interview with Time magazine Managing Editor Richard Stengel, saying she could not envision a scenario in which party leaders would step in and call for the race to end.

"I think people have short memories," she said then. "Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual."

Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 23, 2008 6:26:13 PM

nobo:

No character assassination here.

Clinton was asked why she's staying in. Her direct response - and ONLY reference to the 1968 campaign - was to invoke RFK's assassination.

At best, it was woefully worded. It's getting wide media play precisely because it's a terrible statement.

Right now, a wide assortment of websites - conservative, moderate and liberal - are giving it top billing. Not my fault or yours - only hers.

The above is entirely factual. Sorry if that offends you.

Posted by: BMR, Pittsburgh PA | May 23, 2008 6:25:58 PM

countallthevotes and All,

A man or woman is judge by their actions and their words.

Hillary is demonstrating the word that would be a hopefull result of Obama being shot. Grow up.

Assasination of Bobby has no relation to her continuing in the Primary.

Except that she is poisoning the minds of those who would commit such an act for her own gain.

So she said it and now all have to reason why,,
Rev. Wright said something and Obama hae to live with what Wright said, So why should Hillary not be accountable for what she SAID.

this is the third reference of Obama being killed.

Don't be a Fool, she meant what she said as a Lawyer does.

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 6:25:39 PM

Hillary's comments show to what ruthless lengths she will go to try and gain the presidency; by planting the seed for an assasination of Barack Obama. The superdelegates should rush to back Obama now, and slam the door on Clinton and her insidious remarks.

Posted by: Scott | May 23, 2008 6:24:51 PM

The outrageous statements by Obama supporters here are the very reason half the democratic party is against voting for him.Clinton should absolutely not be on the ticket with Obama to help elect the saint like candidate of people full of hatred.

Posted by: vic | May 23, 2008 6:24:43 PM

Let the Obama campaign make an issue of her remarks which all of us understand and he will just hasten the departure of hordes of Clinton's followers right out of the Democratic Party and into McCain's arms in November.

Last week, prominent Democrats lined up behind Obama to prop him up against the appeasement charge.

Where are they now to defend Hillary Clinton from smears within her own Party.

Her supporters are enraged at the treatment she's received from the Obama campaign and the silence of the DNC.

We won't forget this as we move toward November.

Posted by: Where's the DNC | May 23, 2008 6:21:53 PM

BMR, Pittsburgh PA; and American10 -

First, I have no idea what motives ABC has or has not. So, I cannot answer your question.

As to BMR's question: Why would Clinton reference RFK's assassination when answering a question about why she's staying in the primary race?

Because RFK stayed in a democratic primary without gaining nomination in June when he was assessinated, later than May (as HRC has been called or declared to quit or out of race since Iowa).

Which part is incorrect, and which part in not factual?

Why you guys cannot take a high road? It is BHO who preaches 'New Kind of Politics", "Hope", "Change". Do you call this kind of character assassination by BHO camp "Hope" and "Change"?

Posted by: nobo | May 23, 2008 6:20:51 PM

It's very slick too the way ABC in its "top story" places very similar looking shots of RFK next to Obama. ABC is implicitly charging that in making an historical reference Hillary was somehow linking the RFK tragedy to another candidate. That is an outrageous charge. She holds RFK's seat in the Senate, RFK Jr. has endorsed her and said that she most represents what his father was about. Deeply offensive.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 23, 2008 6:19:43 PM

Hillary was referring to primary campaigns that went into June. Of course she put it pretty dumbly.
But the much much more exciting story is that OF COURSE she plans EVERY single word and every phrasing of every word that comes out of her mouth, and she WANTS people to think about assassinating Obama!!!!!

Actually who knows what this calculating mind is plotting? Probably having wrath poured down upon her is a secret creepy strategy for...what?


Posted by: ClareA | May 23, 2008 6:17:16 PM

I wholeheartedly agree with Worldcitizen. The point Hillary was making was that historically the Primaries ended in June. That was it plain and simple. By distorting and editorializing to the point of shear sensationism, ABC is just plain being provocative. Very stupid move on the part of ABC. Very bad judgment.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 23, 2008 6:16:19 PM

Many of us are voting against Obama because of the harassment from bigoted Obama supporters such as the Obama commenters on this blog. We're voting no to sexist, racist treatment of Hillary and her supporters! We're voting no to scare tactics by Obama supporters! We're voting no to threats and insults from Obama supporters! We're voting no to bullying by Obama supporters! We're voting no to Obama supporter silence when racist, bigoted remarks fly from other Obama supporters. We're voting no to this cycle of abuse from Obama supporters!! We've had enough of abusive Obama supporters and we're saying NO! We're rising up, standing up and saying NO!! NO MEANS NO!!!

Posted by: former dem in chicago | May 23, 2008 6:16:08 PM

V.P I think not

After this statment I would not want her to cut my grass, less known to be the V.P., I don't know enough people to test my food for poison, to have her as V.P.

Posted by: American10 | May 23, 2008 6:15:42 PM

Tina from Florida:

You say, "She was just pointing out a fact. A plane could go down with either candidate. A scandal we don't know about, you never know."

If either of those things happen (and it's hard to believe any rational person would use those as a basis for continuing a campaign - but then again, this is Hillary Clinton), she could still get the nomination.

It's not like the Dems couldn't ask her to run if, say, someone assassinates Obama (not that she would ever link that possibility to her reason for staying in...oh, wait...).

Posted by: BMR, Pittsburgh PA | May 23, 2008 6:12:59 PM

i usually watch abc news-because i saw it as the last one to watch. i guess if this will be one of the top stories, i'll just turn my tv. off. because there is no world news tonight.

to lead these high strung-jerry springer types into believing that sen. clinton would want physical harm to come to obama is irresponsible.

and desperate to create controversy where there is none.

i cannot believe this is what the media has come to.

and to take down comments that point this out is a bit thinned skinned.

afer geo. st. and charlie gibson. got all of the flack they received after the clinton obama debate, they seemed to take it in stride and rode it out.
but today on this post, people who read into this article that sen. clinton is wanting to do harm to obama-those post are left up.
and any post trying to counter that notion are deleted.

there really has been some crazy spirit floating in the air around america, that we would sink to such.

lets stop this talk of sen. clinton doing harm to obama
you know it is not right.

Posted by: worldcitizen | May 23, 2008 6:11:32 PM