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Hillary's Horse

May 03, 2008 7:05 PM

Tragedy struck the first filly in the Kentucky Derby since 1999, as Eight Belles went down on the track after her second-place finish today, broke two ankles, and was euthanized.

Showing a sisterhood with the female horse, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., during a trip to Louisville this week had said she was going to bet on Eight Belles to win, place, and show.

ABC News' Karen Travers reports that Clinton told supporters in Jeffersonville, Ind., earlier this week, "I hope that everybody will go to the derby on Saturday and place just a little money on the filly for me. I won’t be able to be there this year -- my daughter is going to be there and so she has strict instructions to bet on Eight Belles."

Travers also points out that Eight Belles' trainer, Larry Jones, returned the love. "It looks like it could be the year for the girls," he said. "Eight Belles I’m sure would want to endorse."

The horse Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., picked to show -- Big Brown -- won the Derby.

Obama had picked Colonel John to win (he came in 6th) and Pyro to place (he came in 8th).

Chelsea Clinton attended the Derby. Kentucky's primary, which Clinton is favored to win, will be held on May 20.

- jpt

UPDATE: People, people...I am not making light of this horse's death, nor am I inviting you to do so. Please keep the comments civil.

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go to the peta sight and sign the petition, I DID!!!!!

Posted by: shannon | May 8, 2008 10:33:32 PM

well I will agree with the last comment!! you know, it seems that they just don't care, they just put her to sleep and said oh well, on with the next moneymaker!!!! these young horses legs are not strong at that age!!!!!

Posted by: carla | May 8, 2008 10:31:26 PM

Actually, I take that back. Hillary didn't just happen to bet on the only female horse. She bet on Eight Belle's because she was the only female. So what? I wanted Eight Belle's to win in the horse race as well,because she was the only female. But I'm not for Hillary.
And aside from the horses,the horse racing industry's shameful. Putting young horses out on the tracks to race for money and their own entertainment. My roommate just happened to be watching the race, I saw beautiful Eight Belle's, and was rueting for her to win. And to watch her die like that..!

Posted by: chill | May 8, 2008 7:45:47 PM

You all got it wrong. If your gonna base this race on color and gender, Hillary bet on a "Black" female horse. And the horse Obama bet to win came in third (Colonel John) . Obama bet on Big Brown to place ,not win. Your silly political connections are all stupid. It's humorous on some level,but most of you are taking it way to seriously. Hillary just happens to be a white female running second , and Eight Belle's just happened to be a Black female who placed a strong second,ran her big heart out,only to end in tragedy( like many other horses). Hillary just happened to bet on the only female horse. Big deal. It's all pure coincidence. If you want to compare race and gender( for all you serious race and gender people out there)..,Hillary's white, and Eight Belle's was black . SOme connection. Pathetic. Get a life people

I'm for Obama. Because I believe he's the best candidate. Not because of what horse he bet on,not because of his color,and not because I just happen to live right across the street from the prestigious high school he went to.

RIP Eight Belle's . They raced you too young. Tragic.

Posted by: chill | May 8, 2008 6:46:15 PM

What is the point of racing? What fun can there be in watching horses die? Or in fighting dogs? I am so sick of violent sports and that includes human sports like football, boxing, So men can beat each other to a pulp and people can enjoy watching AND make money off it. It all sickens me.

Posted by: sick and tired | May 7, 2008 10:56:27 PM

Bottom line that we abuse animals all across the world for food, clothing and entertainment purposes. That is not how mankind should be treating animals who are defensless. Eight Belles trainer stated that the horse put her life on the line for them. Bullshit they put her life on the line. Peta is correct in demanding that the racing industry set strict regulation and be held accountable to them.
I have personally witnessed a group of pinhookers as they are called or the trailer trash of the sport of kings who buy 1,000 horses and run them to death and when they are no longer making money they send them to slaughter. Yes they still slaughter just not in this country they ship them out. Myself and my friends all ended up with some of these x racers as they were headed to slaughter. The racing industry MUST be accountable and responsible for ALL horses who come about for racing purposes. It makes me sick literally to go and watch horses race. Not only do they race them to young but there lungs also bleed when overexherted. Then they give Lasix to keep running the horse. PATHETIC. The tracks and the racing commissioner know because I told them and they did nothing to get these drunken druggies off their tracks. Now Ky has these incentives to the Quarterhorse breeding etc. and there are now five babies two doors down from me. Of course the babies are adorable but we have so many unwanted horses now that need homes. People just can't throw away animals this way its inhumane. When God told Abraham to take his son to the altar and sacrifice the lamb he instructed that he was not to scare the animal and to make it quick and painless. Our x race horse Lead Me To Glory has many issues and they were all brought on by racing. She has a forever home. She doesn't have to race anymore with her club foot. And she doesn't have to make anymore babies. She is our horse that we love just because she is. Blessings to all the beautiful horses who are made to do things they don't want to do.

Posted by: Kathy Stutler | May 7, 2008 3:12:44 PM

I have no first hand knowledge, but my guess is that horse breeders are guilty of some of the same abuses that puppy mills are. Sure, they may have an intimate understanding of these powerful creatures, but in the end they are cash cows and just as expendable. We've come a long way from the barbarity of the Roman Empire pitting exotic animals against each other, but still have a ways to go.

A comic on cable once said, "If I had to come back as a working animal, I'd have to pick one that does porn." (not the little critters that get squashed though...ick!)

Posted by: LanceThruster | May 7, 2008 2:44:28 PM

Sorry Jick, I meant to address the previous post to Tim from OZ.

Posted by: vgp | May 6, 2008 3:52:29 PM

Another bad choice. Not a good sign.
I,myself pick Big Brown.

Posted by: jc | May 6, 2008 1:46:12 PM

oooh, bad omen for hillary and another bad judgement for her too, she's cursed

Posted by: jim t | May 5, 2008 5:24:35 PM

I just hope that HRC is not superstitious. It is prophetic enough that her horse came in second. But to be “put down”….

Let's hope Hillary has better luck in the horse race in North Carolina.

Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | May 5, 2008 3:24:37 PM

Hey folks... Hillary set up this analogy before the race. Don't demonize anyone for seeing the irony.

Posted by: layoffthepaintchips | May 5, 2008 2:51:46 PM

Can’t we admit the obvious IRONY and the parallels between Obama (Big Brown) and Hillary (Eight Belles)?

The term "Eight bells" can also be a way of saying that a sailor's watch is over, for instance, in his or her obituary. It's a nautical euphemism for "finished".

1) Hillary will stop at NOTHING to get the nomination, even if it hurts herself and her party....

(A fine filly like Eight Belles will stop at nothing even if she breaks her own legs and dies.)

2) Hillary is madly trying to run with the BOYS in a race she will do ANYTHING it takes to win -- for the power and the glory and to prove she can do it no matter what the injury to herself or others.

(Eight Belles -- fighting an artificial turf and a herd of massive males, tried to win over the huge and powerful Big Brown)

3) Hillary wanted everyone to bet for Eight Belles to win (not to place) and everyone who trusted her lost.

4) The filly was fatally crippled, so they euthanized her. Will this happen to Hillary's campaign or her potential presidency? She has the will, but does Hillary have the strength to avoid going down at the finish line as well?

I personally put my money on Big Brown and guess what... I won.

I'm betting on Obama. I don't trust Hillary or her judgment.

(All respect to women running for office -- Feinstein, Thatcher, etc.... this is not about women... it's about Hillary's bedlamite character and lack of strength needed to finish the race and run the free world.)

Quoting Brian, a blogger on ABC:

“The parallels are a little weird and I hate even bringing them up. Big Brown had only had only run three races and people were questioning his experience. Eight Belles was the only filly in the race and comes in second.”

Posted by: parallels are accurate here | May 5, 2008 2:41:10 PM

It saddens me that Obama supporters will stoop so low as to make fun of Eight Belles' tragic death. They'll do anything to get attention.

Posted by: Horse Lover | May 5, 2008 2:25:02 PM

A better fate will await Hillary. She will also finish second in her race, but go on to represent New York for many decades and work with several US presidents, the second of which will be John McCain.

Posted by: Josh | May 5, 2008 2:24:40 PM

who says misogyny is dead?
Likening Hillary Clinton to a horse that ran it's heart out, but broke both front legs to try and finish the race, and was euthanized.....
pretty sick stuff.

Posted by: jeqal | May 5, 2008 2:17:02 PM

First of all, I would like to say that my thoughts go out to the people that really cared about Eight Belles. Having said that, I do believe people put up animals in higher regards then humans. No animal should worth more then a human life. Its fine to help them and take care of them but not worship them. Respect yes. Shed a tear for the child caught in a drive by or family killed by a drunk driver. Dont forget about them when mourning for the travasty that fell apon the valliant filly. Ironically, i did find humor in the Hilary/Eight Belles ties. Strong filly going against the favorite, "Big Brown". She put on a valiant race but eventually broke down after the lost to the big "brown" horse. Can there be any more irony? Ankles.... Tax plan... hmmm

Posted by: DAS | May 5, 2008 11:43:52 AM

This was a wonderful animal who raced her heart out and almost took the big one away from the boys...She was a valued member of the team and anyone who thinks otherwise should be QUIET!!! Try putting yourself in the shoes of her owners, trainer, and other stable members for one minute....She is gone and is never coming back....GOD BLESS YOU EIGHT BEllS!

Posted by: Donna May | May 5, 2008 11:43:11 AM

I heard that the horse was found with a bullet hole in its head. And Hillary had her people clean out the horse's stable after the race.

Posted by: jeff4179 | May 5, 2008 10:08:14 AM

Bread And Circuses. Bread and Circuses.
As long as there is entertainment for all in sundry of arenas, political or otherwise, and plenty of bread to eat, discussions such as this are endless.

Posted by: BLR | May 5, 2008 10:08:05 AM

I just had to chuckle that someone gave Hillary flack for gender discrimination buy yet had nothing to say about Obama's bet on "Big Brown".

I guess that's okay because Hillary is just a horse of another color?

Vote Republican.

Posted by: Bev | May 5, 2008 10:02:51 AM

why does everybody die around the clintons?

Posted by: gh | May 5, 2008 9:43:23 AM

Even animals can't avoid the curse of the Clintons. If Hillary wins I might prefer to be put down, broken ankles or not. There is not a candidate in the running worthy of being the president of this country. It's going to be a sad, sorry next 4 years.

Posted by: tmmt | May 5, 2008 9:43:07 AM

Politics aside; horses have been overbred to the point where they are at the limit of their strength/structure. On top of that, pure-bred inbreeding just amplifies the defects along with the strengths of the horse's anatomy.

So it's no surprise that heavily inbred oversized animals are prone to bone shattering when physically pushed to their limits. Happened before, will happen some more. When's the last time you heard of a healthy plain pony shattering a bone on perfectly flat ground after a run?

There is some political humour (irony?) to be see in the parallels - the rare female horse in the race comes in second and dies spectacularly at the very end, while the winner is... "Big Brown"?? Hmmm.

Posted by: md | May 5, 2008 9:41:54 AM

Not to beat a dead horse,

Hillary picks the horse on the basis of gender?

Aren't Dems Against gender discrimination?


Picking on gender was not smart. The story just amplifies some poor decisions on her part.

Posted by: Nash | May 5, 2008 9:18:27 AM

It means she will lose the nomination.

Posted by: SDIMASTER | May 5, 2008 9:09:51 AM


I've never raced, but I've competed in everything else on horseback, and I think this talk of animal abuse is way off base.

I personally do not go to zoos or the circus, as I feel a little queezy about it, I love animals too much.

Smacking a horses hind quarters with a crop is not cruel, it generates a small sensation and it mainly done for the noise, so the TV running scenes of the jockey cropping and some connection that the horse was run to death is wrong.

What I saw was a horse with it's ears up, and high spirits. Talk from people saying the horse must have been hurt, or the "jockey knew" is rubbish until I hear any hard evidence.

The horse looked terrific, I'm sad she had to be put down, but I've seen that in jumping and hunter too.

Posted by: Chris, NYC | May 5, 2008 8:48:39 AM

Come now... a horse breaking it's ankles is akin to an athlete blowing out a knee. They can't hardly stand after that, let alone be pushed to finish the race. The injuries occurred after the finish, most likely as he slowed her down. It would be perfectly reasonable to assume that she somehow had a weakened bone structure that finally gave with the added resistance of trying to slow herself.

Post-performance injuries aren't uncommon.

It is a simple tragedy that Eight Bells died like this, but instead of attacking the sport of horseracing, go after the real problems within the sport, those owners and trainers that mistreat or dope their animals.

Posted by: Joe | May 5, 2008 8:20:43 AM

Eight Belles' death after the Derby is a terrible tragedy.

But what would be an even worse tragedy, is if Hillary Clinton were elected President.

Posted by: Samuel Miller | May 5, 2008 8:10:34 AM

Note Belles' SECOND place finish.

Posted by: Jick | May 5, 2008 4:04:08 AM

Firstly, to all those talking about their knowledge of horses and supposed expertise, a horse cannot run on once it sustains a broken ankle. The jokey did not push her on beyond the pain barrier and create a second broken ankle. The injuries would have been sustained on consecutive strides, as once a horse breaks an ankle, it can no longer run.

It is a tragic loss and my heart goes out to all Belles connections. I have followed racing for a while now, and living in Australia it is a big part of our culture and it is terrible to see something like this.

Posted by: Tim from Oz | May 5, 2008 3:45:46 AM

For Pete's sake it's a horse that collapsed after a horse race. There's nothing mystical or superstitious about it, just a horse race. Get real people.

Posted by: Tanya Hood | May 5, 2008 3:07:50 AM

Horses Run , that is how God created them, their is absolutely nothing wrong with Horse race and all the glamour that comes with it. That is life, people die, Horses are beautiful animals but nothing has durability no matter how well preserved. Belles was cool but would the story not be different if Belles had survived. Hillary is trying to add gender into this race. First she and her husband injected race into the primaries, now she is delibrately injecting gender to it. Old politics... Why can't she ever focus on the problems America face. The last I checked she is smart talking her self past a flawed gas tax plan. So much for experience...

Posted by: Hugo | May 5, 2008 1:59:55 AM

If ANYTHING it should remind Hillary Clinton that you should do what you love, put your heart & soul into everything you do and stay in the race until the very END! Eight Belles raced with the biggest & baddest men in her sport and she BEAT 18 of 19 of them! If you think this is some premonition for the Democratic presidential candidate outcome you are right; Hillary should race with her head held high and in perfect stride because WOMEN CAN DO ANYTHING THEY PUT THEIR MINDS TO! Shame on this correspondent for speaking poorly of Eight Belles and shame on him for assuming that Hillary is down as well! Don't forget...Obama's pick to win actually came in THIRD...behind the faster filly! Keep your politics out of racing and show some respect for the dead!

Posted by: dmorris144 | May 5, 2008 1:22:37 AM

Eight Belles' death was an unfortunate incident. At lease she did have the limelight while Hillary praised her and she ran tough with the boys. I don't think it was a Clinton Curse. It just goes to show that Hillary knows a fighter when she sees one. Hillary didn't make the bet everyone else did, but that horse surprised everyone else by coming in second. Let's also note that Obama's choices did not do as well. He went along with the favored choice.

Posted by: Darla | May 5, 2008 1:15:36 AM

Yes, it was very sad indeed, another upsetting end to the 'Derby'. Eight Belles was a fabulous filly and a champion, and (since the political tone wasn't necessary, but indeed included above) methinks of 'she' who just -had- to include the horse as part of her campaign 'lore'? Well, Hillary is just that old gray mare that ain't what she used to be. If the horseshoe fits ... Hmmmmm. Wonder when Hilary is going to claim Hidalgo? Actually am already sick and tired of the political horserace across the board - put them all out to pasture.

Posted by: Kimzer | May 5, 2008 1:12:54 AM

Tears for a horse, but what about the tears for the coutless babies murdered everyday in abortion clinics across the country, people are sickening.

Posted by: JayV | May 5, 2008 1:07:55 AM

I continue to mourn for the loss of Eight Belles. Why was she left alone to die why was not the owner or the trainer notified before she was killed? Are you telling me they had crap to kill her but no pain medication to stabilize her until the owner or trainer got there? And why in Hades did the jockey leave her? All of this makes no sense to me and it pisses me off. Eight Belles will go out as an icon of this time bringing new and prosperous light to filly horse racing and the Kentucky Oaks and the suggestion that filly's should not run in the Kentucky Derby is absurd! She would have won that race but her ankles were bothering her before she hit the finish line. Oh Eight Belles the epitome of girl power your death will not be in vain and I cannot imagine what you felt dying alone and I cannot imagine what your owner or trainer or Proud Spell must be feeling right now because I am filled with grief and most of it knowing you died alone. And I will never know I guess why the jockey left you and why in the world someone did not wait for your owner or trainer to get there. I don't know Eight Belles I don't know. Rest in Peace you magnificent athlete your death will not be in vain!

Posted by: Nandi | May 5, 2008 12:30:55 AM

What a great race!! I think that the way it will end up too....Big Brown finishing first...and Hillary bing put drown..

On a serious not...Cant wait till the Sucide horse races in Omak WA this summer...good times and GREAT BBQ!!

Ragged

Posted by: Ragged | May 5, 2008 12:15:25 AM

My country tis of she
Sweet land of Hillary
Fascism reigns

Posted by: Billy Greybeal | May 5, 2008 12:00:17 AM

Those that race horses, rodeo ride, fight dogs, etc. should be brought up an animal cruelty charges, and our present laws should be strengthened nationwide. Our politicans should know better than bet on these types of events. Shame on them. Eight Belles is with God. Her last steps to heaven's gate were painful, but she is at peace now.

Posted by: Lura | May 4, 2008 11:37:05 PM

This whole analogy is ridiculous!

Obama is thin thus far he aint "big" brown.

And Hillary has thick ankles that would never break under stress!


Absurd!

Posted by: Tim | May 4, 2008 11:05:53 PM

Rebekah,

The problem is that everyone in their right mind knows the Iraq war is a debacle, while apparently horse racing is still considered good fun by our most 'progressive' candidates. That's sad.

Posted by: Jon | May 4, 2008 10:42:56 PM

It's sad to think that most of the people in the above letters vote, Eight Belles ran a great race. This sould have nothing to do with politics and we should all have our thoughts on her.
Solly

Posted by: Bill Salsman | May 4, 2008 10:35:57 PM

Throughbreds should NOT be raced, the bones in their ankles are thin, but that is sadly what makes them race fast. Racing a Philly among the big guys, should be STOPPED. Anything for money, people make me sick, they love money more than there own horses!
Eight Belles is in heaven now with Barbaro and i hope the people that put her on that track miss her and realize its not all about money, what about the animal? When you love an animal, especially horses which are more intelligent than most people i know protect them and refuse to put them in harms way, you want money, work for it!
I owned a Quarter horse and he was my first love how much i miss him, he died 4 yrs ago and no other horse has my heart the way Cookie did.

Posted by: Rebekah | May 4, 2008 9:35:01 PM

For all of you who are so distraught over the tragic death of Eight-Belles, and who are so outraged over the comments on this blog, I offer these sobering thoughts:

Horses are among the most beautiful creatures on the face of the earth, and certainly it is TRAGEDY when even one of them has an accident that requires them to be put down. But lets not lose all sense of proportionality. This was a horse, not a human being. If you are so distraught and outraged over the death of this horse, then where is your outrage and distress over the deaths of more than 4000 American soldiers, and over 20,000 Iraqi civillian HUMAN BEINGS who have been killed over the past 4 years because Hillary Clinton was too busy to read the intelligence reports and had to show how "tough" she was by voting to authorize a war over weapons of mass destruction that never existed in the first place. So I ask all you self-rightious animal lovers:
WHICH IS THE GREATER TRAGEDY--THE SENSELESS DEATH OF ONE RACEHORSE, OR THE SENSELESS DEATHS OF OVER 24,000 HUMAN BEINGS IN THE IRAQ WAR? Where oh where is your outrage about that?

Posted by: Long Tall Texan | May 4, 2008 9:29:56 PM

How long before the Clinton campaign comes out and declares eight belles death an act of sabotage by reverend wright and barack hussein obama?

Seriously, all of this news and outrage over a dead horse!?!?! Where is all of the outrage for our thousands of dead and wounded soldiers????

Amazing...

Posted by: Tom | May 4, 2008 8:29:08 PM

I am sitting here in awe of you people. First of all, I am willing to bet not a single person who posted a comment has watched a single horse race other than the Kentucky Derby, in their lives.

It's spelled "FILLY". Philly is a city that is known for our horses (remember Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex, Barbaro), but let's use the correct spelling here shall we? Not to mention Philly is in a state where Hillary blew Obama out of the water two weeks ago.

Secondly, how DARE you people exploit a tragedy that happened yesterday? I know the connections personally and they are devastated. Eight Belles ran a huge race.

I cannot believe Matt Lauer said something that cruel, well actually I can.

There's no "Clinton curse", I've met them several times and so far I've survived to tell the tale.

My #1 horse, War Pass, didn't make it to the Derby so my pick was Colonel John and now I know why he lost: Because Obama picked him. Obama doesn't know crap about politics or horse racing.

You people make me sick. And Hillary's Presidential big will be just fine. It will be Obama's that will need saving thanks to his own Big Brown, Jeremiah Wright.

Posted by: Brooke | May 4, 2008 8:26:33 PM

"Travers also points out that Eight Belles' trainer, Larry Jones, returned the love. "It looks like it could be the year for the girls," he said. "Eight Belles I’m sure would want to endorse."

Let's hope Jones' good words didn't inspire some publicity-driven mobster to make some kind of . . . arrangement to the poor horse's detriment.

Posted by: Edgar Cayce | May 4, 2008 8:26:04 PM

It's a shame none of the candidates have the guts to denounce horse racing for the tragic 'sport' that it is rather than trying to gain a couple political points and further validating it in the process. People that think horse racing is such a good idea should have their children or loved ones on a track and run them until they die, literally, and see how much fun that is to watch.

Posted by: Jon | May 4, 2008 8:17:38 PM

why is anthropomorphising acceptable in this case? Greed ran this race and her death was a sacrifice for our enjoyment.You are really stretching the point here. Deal with the fact that horse racing is a sport of greed and yes there is a corellation to politics. The gender of a horse who would rather be eating oats now than be buried or in a glue factory is not witty.It is just stupid. Hillary wants to run did anyone ask this horse if she wanted to run?I think the payoff was too big to worry about that.

Posted by: tamara | May 4, 2008 7:46:48 PM

The most ironic part of this story is that Matt Lauer of the Today show described this situation exactly on Thursday or Friday! After NBC did a segment on Hillary backing 8 Bells as a metaphor for her campaign, Matt made the comment something to the effect of: "let's hope the horse doesn't break a leg an have to be put down". Deja Vu all over again!

Posted by: Dave | May 4, 2008 6:54:25 PM

"...I am not making light of this horse's death, nor am I inviting you to do so."

well no, actually Jake, you are

Posted by: Julie | May 4, 2008 6:43:23 PM

What if people and horses were the same, what a meaningful article this would be. And what if Republicans and Democrats acted like 6 year olds on the internet. Everyone, Go outside. Walk off your rage.

Posted by: Namo Atepye | May 4, 2008 6:41:31 PM

Used to like horse racing. Now I think it's shameful.

Posted by: berky | May 4, 2008 5:50:38 PM

for kerry, pelosi, kennedy - the math's not there for clinton on the delegates you tell us. but what about the rev. wright word problem that can't be squared. guess that's just for extra credit, so skip it and move on.

for Eight Belles
look back at our struggle for freedom
trace our present day’s strength to it’s source;
and you’ll find that man’s pathway to glory
is strewn with the bones of a horse
- author unknown

somewhere in time’s own space
there must be some sweet pastured place
where creeks sing on and tall trees grow
some paradise where horses go
for by the love that guides my pen
I know great horses live again
- Stanley Harrison

Posted by: horsewithnoname | May 4, 2008 5:46:41 PM

"Proof That: Betting by Gender is as a dumb as Voting by Gender."

Actually Eight Belles was a good bet since she finished second with 12:1 odds, so it's not really proof of anything is it?

Voting based only on race or gender is dumb, though. Obama's 80-90% African American support accounts for nearly every one of his state victories.

When he loses to McCain in November, the dumbness of a race-based vote for a weak candidate like Obama will be brought home again.

Posted by: Sanders | May 4, 2008 5:38:13 PM

Proof That:

Betting by Gender is as a dumb as Voting by Gender.

Posted by: ed | May 4, 2008 5:26:15 PM

I join my fellow commenters in sympathy for her poor trainers. This story hits particularly close to home as my own son recently broke his ankle in a track meet this week and I, too, was forced to put him down. It is not an easy decision to make.

Posted by: justin | May 4, 2008 5:25:55 PM

First Vince Foster, now the horse. Who's next?

Posted by: Tom Dicknharry | May 4, 2008 5:25:30 PM

Also everyone, a young female horse that has yet to foal is called a FILLY,not a "philly"!!! Jeez.

Posted by: KFED | May 4, 2008 5:21:25 PM

Where's my oxycontin!

Posted by: Rush Limbaugh | May 4, 2008 5:18:53 PM

The irony is twisted people gamble on a sadistic animal game that ended in death.

Rome already gave the lesson once and by the responses the lesson will repeat.


Posted by: Arena Trogolodytes | May 4, 2008 5:17:50 PM

I FEEL SAD FOR THE HORSES OWNER, AND THE ONES WHO REALLY CARED ABOUT THE HORSE. IT IS A SAD DAY WHEN A HORSES DEATH AFTER COMING IN 2ND PLACE, IS USED AS A WEAPON FOR PUT DOWNS AGAINST SOMEONE RUNNING IN THE POLITICAL RACE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY ARE A WOMAN OR NOT.

Posted by: D | May 4, 2008 5:16:34 PM

I think that anyone who would found humor in the death of this poor horse is a moron. Think about her trainers and owners - this horse was like a member of the family to them and now she's gone and they're heartbroken. Yet a bunch of Obama supporters are getting their jollies by slamming Hillary for picking the horse. Well, all of you can go straight to hell as far as I'm concerned. Some things just aren't funny, you pea-brains.

Posted by: The Sandman | May 4, 2008 5:08:14 PM

It is shocking to see the media exploit a tragedy to score cutesy political points against a candidate they hate.

Posted by: Dan S | May 4, 2008 4:51:20 PM

"Ha ha! Hillary picked a horse and the horse broke her legs and collapsed and died! Ha ha ha hahahah!

And then Big Brown won because he's big and brown! Barack Obama is brown!

And then....THEN Obama's pick came in fifth!

That's funny too cause....cause....ub, duhhh, dude, wanna play Grand Theft Auto and then go to the Obama rally?"

Posted by: Ben | May 4, 2008 4:40:18 PM

The ironies here are poignant if you're 14.

Posted by: burgh | May 4, 2008 4:36:44 PM

I thought even Obama followers at this place had a little more, well, dignity than the crowd at Daily Kos and Huff Po, where they're laughing it up over Eight Belles' fall.

Guess not.

Posted by: MT | May 4, 2008 4:35:03 PM

Liberals are truly out of touch. The ironys here are just too poignant to ignore. It's a fool's world.

Posted by: Ted B | May 4, 2008 4:27:58 PM

Irony is never delicious unless there is some level of complexity or cleverity. Obama supporters alas are too slow witted to understand the difference between irony worth commenting on and a tragic coincidence that reveals anyone who discusses it with amusement as a simpleton and a low class twit.

Posted by: glasser | May 4, 2008 4:26:40 PM

Dostoevsky anyone?

Posted by: thebard | May 4, 2008 4:06:00 PM

I'm sorry about the filly's death but the irony is just to great not to comment on it...the underdog philly, who Hillary definitely compared herself to, ran her heart out but in the end was beat by BIG BROWN and after crossing the finish line collapses, so broken that she has to be euthanized. Come on people if you can't see the delicious irony and foreshadowing in that, you have rocks in your head. She's the one that started it and you better beleive if Eight Belles had won, Hillary would have been using that distinction til the cows came home. I LOVE IT!

Posted by: cathy | May 4, 2008 3:58:49 PM

Reply to Its Over: If you know anything about being an American it would be that we have freedom of speech. No matter how idiotic you may think some comments may be I believe everyone has a right to speak their mind without fear of persecution. Furthermore, you my friend may think to much of yourself to post that our comments on a blog on a media site is causing you to feel embarrassed as an American. I say embrace the free speech and stop your belittling of others for it is I that am truly embarrased for you and anyone that believes that we can shut free speech down.

Posted by: KCjones555 | May 4, 2008 3:55:03 PM

oOOh...uh..oh. Obama wanted the Patriots to win the super Bowl! Guyess what they lost! uh, oh...better not have him a s president! mcain picked the new york giants..he obviousky would make a better president..i wonder which horse he picked i have to check It.

Posted by: ItsOver | May 4, 2008 3:49:46 PM

Horses can teach America a lot...If people would pay attention to what is really important. Eight Belles was brave, strong in heart. That is proven by her coming in second. We all need a little horse medicine at times. So we can learn empathy, wisdom, and the power of the heart.
I have dreamed of having the chance to be at the Derby. I hope someday, I will be there with my big hat.lol
Some horses have such spirit it is just in them. Before you pass judgement, own a horse. I do and I enjoy my horse very much and his heart and spirit.If people had the spirit and heart of horses wow what a world. Blessings to you all and my thoughts go out to the trainers, owners and jockies.Your horse will be remembered.

Posted by: Amy | May 4, 2008 3:49:15 PM

For all of you who are so distraught over the tragic death of Eight-Belles, and who are so outraged over the comments on this blog, I offer these sobering thoughts:

Horses are among the most beautiful creatures on the face of the earth, and certainly it is TRAGEDY when even one of them has an accident that requires them to be put down. But lets not lose all sense of proportionality. This was a horse, not a human being. If you are so distraught and outraged over the death of this horse, then where is your outrage and distress over the deaths of more than 4000 American soldiers, and over 20,000 Iraqi civillian HUMAN BEINGS who have been killed over the past 4 years because Hillary Clinton was too bust to read the intelligence reports and had to show how "tough" she was by voting to authorize a war over weapons of mass destruction that never existed in the first place. So I ask all you self-rightious animal lovers:
WHICH IS THE GREATER TRAGEDY--THE SENSELESS DEATH OF ONE RACEHORSE, OR THE SENSELESS DEATHS OF OVER 24,000 HUMAN BEINGS IN THE IRAQ WAR? Where oh where is your outrage about that?

Posted by: Long Tall Texan | May 4, 2008 3:46:03 PM

Yes EHJ I knew about Keyes and Guiliani. I don't know about Moynihan. He was certainly respected here in upstate NY. Possibly because he had a home here. So what you are saying is Obama won only because Keyes messed up with scandal problems??? I don't have a clue on Illinois politics thats why I'm asking.

Posted by: Laura Herold | May 4, 2008 3:43:02 PM

It is a terrible shame the breakdown of
Eight Belles. But the real shame is that Americans forget ALL of the scandles caused by the Clintons. I am a republican, and pulled a democrat ballot to vote against Hillary Clinton. Doesn't anyone remember the generation of children who forced their parents to explain what oral sex was when we were all forced to watch that scandle on the evening news. This
country can't take anymore of the Clintons. If you would all wise up and look at the History of Bill Clinton's eight years, any intelligent person can see that September 11 was a direct result of Bill Clinton and his policies.
The first attack on the World Trade Center was under his watch, and for the first time in history you could no longer drive in front of the White House. They will lie, (sniper fire??)
cheap, and stoop to any means to further their power. The only reason they didn't go back to Arkansas was to move to New York so Hillary could become a Senator, then run for President. Look at the history...

Posted by: dt | May 4, 2008 3:42:03 PM

Some Obama supporters are truly disgusting in their attempts to trivialize and mock the death of a living creature.

No wonder the Obama campaign is characterized as being out-of-touch, arrogant, insensitive, and elitist.

Posted by: EV | May 4, 2008 3:33:00 PM

Why is everybody making such a big deal about this? I've seen horses euthanized on the track more than once and I've only been to the track less than a dozen times. HORSES ARE JUST ANIMALS, PEOPLE DESPITE WHAT PETA EXTREMISTS MAY SAY!

Posted by: David | May 4, 2008 3:32:23 PM

Laura: Obama ran against Alan Keyes, who I think was from Baltimore, because the Republican candidate got caught in a marital scandal and Keyes was the only Republican that they could find.
Clinton ran against Rudi Giuliani, who dropped out because of health and marital problems. Lazio was known in New York and tried for the Republican nomination before Giuliani.
Moynaham was a Republican who became a Democrat, who was never seen in NY except at election time.