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If Wives Are Off Limits…
May 19, 2008 11:07 AM
If wives are off limits in the politics theater -- as Sen. Barack Obama suggested on this morning's GMA should be the case-- then are Democrats not guilty of the same sin by attacking Cindy McCain for not releasing her tax returns?
It was just this month that the Democratic National Committee issued a press release saying that by "failing to release Cindy McCain's returns, the McCain campaign is raising serious concerns about his own credibility, about how McCain's position as a U.S. Senator may have benefited John and Cindy McCain's business ventures, and about how McCain's political career has benefited from her personal wealth."
Michelle Obama is being attacked, recall, for comments she made from a stage while campaigning for her husband. Should the Democrats "lay off" Mrs. McCain as well, to use Obama's words? Is it "low class" to go after Cindy McCain on the tax issue?
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Somewhere in the great USA there are smart people who know what is going on and will use this intelligence to vote for a president... BO is a man with little experience...with no experience would you make him CEO just cause he
is a good talker...McCain has a temper
boy don't let him near the red button
on a bad day... and then there is Hillary...if you get there you better do it right...those men are out for blood-- the last thing the men in Congress want is a WOMAN telling them what to do...You know, women like me hope you get the presidency. A woman has been running this country for a
long time...and each year we are getting better at it, the home, the work force, the head of a company, seats in congress, govenors and the last thing left the white house....They
(the men of this world) need to get ready cause it's coming whether it be this year or in the future...She can't do any worse.......
Posted by: anna | May 22, 2008 8:06:07 PM
Michelle Obama is definitely NOT off limits, and in fact, she is a key player in the Obama campaign. On a CBS news report, there is video of a sign in one of Obama's offices that reads, "Whatever Michelle says is the Message," or something like that. So, Barry is a total hypocrite when he declares that wifey is off-limits. In fact, she will soon be his undoing.
Posted by: Not an obama girl | May 22, 2008 12:26:15 AM
Randy ole boy, I guess, what planet did you come from? Hussein Obama is the picture of unpatriotic, not to mention antiwhite,antiflag,antianthem. Where have you been besides drinking the liberal koolaid?
Posted by: lev | May 21, 2008 5:02:56 PM
Cindy McCain stole drugs from CHARITY to support her habit. I've not seen any Democrat mention this. IF she were being attacked don't you think this would be the first spot they'd pick?
Writing a press release asking for Mrs. McCain's tax returns is a tad bit nicer then producing televison commercials acusing Ms. Obama of being anti-American....don't ya think?
Posted by: tinat | May 21, 2008 3:37:10 PM
The Wall Street Journal recently reported that last summer, Illinois Senator Barack Obama told officials in the Teamsters union that he favored ending the Independent Review Board (IRB) that was created in 1989 by the federal government to rid the union of organized crime. Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for Obama, confirmed the story, saying that the candidate believed that the IRB had "run its course" because "organized crime influence in the union has drastically declined." The Teamsters subsequently endorsed Obama for president, in late February.
Obama and the Teamsters bristled at suggestions that any deal was made. The Obama campaign also circulated a tape of a speech that Senator Hillary Clinton made last March to the Teamsters saying "at some point the past has to be opened," but Clinton's statement, like those made by Senator John Kerry in 2004, stopped well short of committing her to end oversight of the Teamsters. Based on the statements the newspaper quoted, it is fair to assume that The Wall Street Journal got the details right.
There are two reasons to be concerned about Obama's actions here. The first is procedural. Obama's promise to close down the IRB suggests a Bush-like contempt for the customary relationship between government and the judicial process. The president himself can't shut down the IRB. He can only recommend to his attorney general that he recommend to the U.S. Attorney in New York that it be shut down. But in these kind of touchy matters, presidents usually defer to the judgment of their attorney generals. By coming close to promising a shutdown, Obama was putting politics above judicial procedure--which is just the kind of "Washington" behavior that he likes to criticize his opponents for doing.
The second reason for concern is more substantive. Labor leaders have made plausible arguments for shutting down the IRB, but a Chicago politician should be extremely wary of acceding to them. If there is continuing mob influence in the Teamsters, it is probably centered in the Chicago area. And in the last decade, the Teamsters in Chicago have shown little enthusiasm for rooting out corruption in their ranks. As a veteran Chicago politician surrounded by a veteran Chicago campaign staff, Obama had to have known this--and that makes his warm words to the Teamsters all the more disturbing.
A different type of politics, to be sure. Making corrupt deals with mob-connected thugs to win union endorsements.
I guess it's "new" in the sense it's so retro; we haven't seen much of this kind of open, not-even-trying-to-hide-it corruption since the bad old days of, say, the sixties.
"That's enough. That – that's a show of disrespect to me."
That was Barack Obama, a couple of weeks back, explaining why he was casting the Rev. Jeremiah Wright into outer darkness. It's one thing to wallow in "adolescent grandiosity" (as Scott Johnson of the Powerline Web site called it) when it's a family dispute between you and your pastor of 20 years. It's quite another to do so when it's the 60th anniversary celebrations of one of America's closest allies.
President Bush was in Israel the other day and gave a speech to the Knesset. Its perspective was summed up by his closing anecdote – a departing British officer in May 1948 handing the iron bar to the Zion Gate to a trembling rabbi and telling him it was the first time in 18 centuries that a key to the gates of the Jerusalem was in the hands of a Jew. In other words, it was a big-picture speech, referencing the Holocaust, the pogroms, Masada – and the challenges that lie ahead. Sen. Obama was not mentioned in the text. No Democrat was mentioned, save for President Truman, in the context of his recognition of the new state of Israel when it was a mere 11 minutes old.
Nonetheless, Barack Obama decided that the president's speech was really about him, and he didn't care for it. He didn't put it quite as bluntly as he did with the Rev. Wright, but the message was the same: "That's enough. That's a show of disrespect to me." And, taking their cue from the soon-to-be nominee's weirdly petty narcissism, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Joe Biden and Co. piled on to deplore Bush's outrageous, unacceptable, unpresidential, outrageously unacceptable and unacceptably unpresidential behavior.
Honestly. What a bunch of self-absorbed ninnies. Here's what the president said:
"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is – the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."
It says something for Democrat touchiness that the minute a guy makes a generalized observation about folks who appease terrorists and dictators the Dems assume: Hey, they're talking about me. Actually, he wasn't – or, to be more precise, he wasn't talking onlyabout you.
Yes, there are plenty of Democrats who are in favor of negotiating with our enemies, and a few Republicans, too – President Bush's pal James Baker, whose Iraq Study Group was full of proposals to barter with Iran and Syria and everybody else. But that general line is also taken by at least three of Tony Blair's former Cabinet ministers and his senior policy adviser, and by the leader of Canada's New Democratic Party and by a whole bunch of bigshot Europeans. It's not a Democrat election policy, it's an entire worldview. Even Barack Obama can't be so vain as to think his fly-me-to-[insert name of enemy here]concept is an original idea.
Increasingly, the Western world has attitudes rather than policies. It's one thing to talk as a means to an end. But these days, for most midlevel powers, talks arethe end, talks without end. Because that's what civilized nations like doing – chit-chatting, shooting the breeze, having tea and crumpets, talking talking talking. Uncivilized nations like torturing dissidents, killing civilians, bombing villages, doing doing doing. It's easier to get the doers to pass themselves off as talkers then to get the talkers to rouse themselves to do anything.
And, as the Iranians understand, talks provide a splendid cover for getting on with anything you want to do. If, say, you want to get on with your nuclear program relatively undisturbed, the easiest way to do it is to enter years of endless talks with the Europeans over said nuclear program. That's why that Hamas honcho endorsed Obama: They know he's their best shot at getting a European foreign minister installed as president of the United States.
Mo Mowlam was Britain's Northern Ireland secretary and oversaw the process by which the IRA's Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness became ministers of a Crown they decline to recognize. By 2004, she was calling for Osama bin Laden to be invited to "the negotiating table," having concluded he was no different from Adams: Stern fellow, lots of blood on his hands, but no sense getting on your high horse about all that; let's find out what he wants and give him part of it.
In his 2002 letter to the United States, bin Laden has a lot of grievances, from America's refusal to implement Sharia law to Jew-controlled usury to the lack of punishment for "President Clinton's immoral acts." Like Barack Obama's pastor, bin Laden shares the view that AIDS is a "Satanic American invention." Obviously, there are items on the agenda that the free world can never concede on – "President Clinton's immoral acts" – but who's to say most of the rest isn't worth chewing over?
This will be the fault line in the post-Bush war debate over the next few years. Are the political ambitions of the broader jihad totalitarian, genocidal, millenarian – in a word, nuts? Or are they negotiable? President Bush knows where he stands. Just before the words that Barack Obama took umbrage at, he said:
"There are good and decent people who cannot fathom the darkness in these men and try to explain away their words. It's natural, but it is deadly wrong. As witnesses to evil in the past, we carry a solemn responsibility to take these words seriously."
Here are some words of Hussein Massawi, the former leader of Hezbollah:
"We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you."
Are his actions consistent with those words? Amazingly so. So, too, are those of Hezbollah's patrons in Tehran.
President Reagan talked with the Soviets while pushing ahead with the deployment of Cruise and Pershing missiles in Europe. He spoke softly – after getting himself a bigger stick. Sen. Obama is proposing to reward a man who pledges to wipe Israel off the map with a presidential photo-op to which he will bring not even a twig. No wonder he's so twitchy about it.
Posted by: Jack | May 21, 2008 3:46:34 AM
Then Bill is off limits?
Mrs. Obama is not a plus... The tapes from the Wright service will surface. The swiftboaters will surely make use of them...duh!
Hillary's campaign has been advised of all of this and probably has known it longer than we have. They bump those letters off her site and won't have anything to do with using that kind of material. She should get credit for the restraint and common sense she's used, speaking of grace.
Posted by: indy in MD | May 20, 2008 7:45:33 PM
Political wives should always be off limits, unless and until they start making policy speeches, and stepping outside the traditional role of a spouse.
Cindy McCain isn't running around making policy statements for her husband. Digging up dirt, repeating it, on the pretense of "the publics right to know", about her past drug addiction, and widely publicized scrape with he law, is just mean-spirited.
Michelle Obama has made hundreds of policy speeches, far beyond the usual "support my husband, he's a good man" kind of talk candidates wives usually make. Because of her openly admitted policy role, she removes herself from the usual immunity.
I wonder what the explanation will be when the videos of Michelle Obama agreeing with the sermons of Rev. Wright, making anti-U.S. statements and repeating wild leftist conspiracy theories, surface? Will they be addressed directly, or hidden away by the Obama campaign as something made up by the "vast right-wing conspiracy"?
Posted by: Terry | May 20, 2008 6:57:18 PM
If I am not mistaken, the GOP forced disclosure on Teresa's Heinz taxes -- I am more interested in the Sudanese investments in light of the lobbyists involved in McCains campaign.
Also, how about those houses 8 is it?? Do they live and use all and are they staffed even when they are not there?
I think talking about the houses they use and own is fair -- didn't they do a piece on Kerry and Vinyard, etc.
Posted by: Paulet | May 20, 2008 6:11:50 PM
Actually, I meant to say, people who call others "low-class" are those with no class.
Posted by: Leslie | May 20, 2008 5:45:49 PM
If a candidate's wife holds an odious of the country she's campaigning to be first lady of, then that's fair game. If she's not proud of her country or think it "downright mean," then voters have every right to take that into consideration. If Cindy McCain made a racist comment about Obama, then THAT would be fair game.
Posted by: SASmith | May 20, 2008 3:00:24 PM
Jake,
There has been a double standard about what Obama and his wife could have said about them versus what the Clintons, McCains, and others could have said about them from the beginning. Obama has made the rules, his campaign breaks them, and then he cries foul when he happens back to them. Or didn't you get that Obama memo?
Posted by: Eric | May 20, 2008 12:40:35 PM
It is a Pandora’s Box. If they start attacking Michelle, it makes Cindy McCain free game. She is open to criticism in many areas, like supporting companies propping up the Sudanese government, not releasing her tax returns, letting her husband use her private jet to exploit a tax loophole, and her past drug addiction (real family values). The Republicans took aim at Obama’s spouse, but they may have bit off more than they can chew.
The Republicans don’t have much when they have to stoop so low as to go after Obama’s wife. For the last 7 1/2 years, I believe most of us would agree with her that we have not been very proud of our country because of the president, who has put us in such a mess internationally and economically.
The Republican machine would try to link Michelle and Barack Obama to unicorns if it would scare the American people and lead them back to the White House. First he’s Muslim, then he goes to a nutty Christian church, although I don’t know how he’s both. And now they are going after his wife. Does Obama have a dog? Better keep it on a short leash. Soon they’ll say the dog barks in Arabic.
Posted by: Owen | May 20, 2008 11:13:35 AM
I don't recall Obama getting outraged at the criticism of Chelsea Clinton's not taking questions from the press or of the classless questions about the scandal involving her father.
Posted by: Charlene Whitney | May 20, 2008 10:13:59 AM
It is quite obvious that BO and the party pundits behind him are using Bush's playbook; smearing, tongue twisting, taking things out of context and using double standards. They are in show biz not in politics. There is no sense of right or wrong and they don't have a conscience.
Hillary or McGain; Nobama
Ever since Rhode Island primary, Obama is on his way down and only recover temporarily in NC with the massive black votes.
The BO and company begins to lose by landslides and pretend that they don't care. This losing streaks carried into the General Election means
big loses.
MSNBC cannot carry him anymore because we all switch to FOX and ABC instead.
Cream the BO fanatics. Humiliate them by votes: they are running downhill. The college kid is going to leave them in November and they are in a big slum.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 20, 2008 6:52:29 AM
Attacking Cindy McCain about her drug addiction problems is off-limits.
Attacking Cindy McCain about her tax returns is not.
If you don't understand the difference, ask your mother.
Posted by: Tom J | May 20, 2008 12:57:37 AM
Can Hillary say " Layoff my husband" when he was critized by talking about Jessy Jackson?
Posted by: catleya | May 20, 2008 12:43:35 AM
Michelle Obama's comments about America being "mean" and not being proud of her country are fair game.
I think she needs to be careful with these kind of negative opinions. i also think that the commercials won't help the GOP...they should be using Obama's "bitter" comments which have been largely edited so they can be defended.
I really don't think Cindy McCain's tax returns are anybody's business, but her own....she has filed seperate throughout her marriage and is independently wealthy,
Obama should not be so resentful that his wife is being scrutinized....his very successful strategy to minimize Bill Clinton and paint the Clinton's as racist is one of the main reasons he's ahead. Apparently spouse's are fair game as long as they aren't Obama's.
Posted by: Jackie | May 20, 2008 12:03:19 AM
Especially when he was running behind HRC, BO made fair game of going after Bill Clinton's record, trying to discredit it in a bid to discredit HRC or to show she had minimal impact on the achievements of that era. He went as far as saying that the two Houses of Congress were lost by the DNC during the Clinton Presidency as evidence that the Clintons could not work across board and were polarizers. It was okay for him to attach both Bill and HRC as a package even though Bill Clinton was the most successful Democrat in the White House in the last 44 years.
I remember also the way the media injected race into the primaries by completely twisting Bill Clinton's response to a reporter's question after the South Carolina primary.
Why does he want a different set of rules now for his wife? Does Michelle Obama not campaign for her husband? Does he listen to her speak when campaigning? Maybe he should. Then he would either pull her off and ask her to just keep quiet, or be ready for Americans to respond to her distasteful speeches in the same way that she rubs them.
Posted by: adellani | May 19, 2008 11:26:27 PM
Asking for tax returns is not a personal attack. Calling someone unpatriotic is a personal attack and a smear. This is like comparing apples and elephants.
Posted by: Michael T | May 19, 2008 10:55:46 PM
Every day poor Obama get picked on. Sorry but if Michelle is campaigning for her husband and she says something so offensive she is fair game. If she says stupid things like that as first lady it could be a problem. Stop whining and either be proud of your words or apologize.
Posted by: Jim | May 19, 2008 10:37:49 PM
so sick and tired of Obama's whining. His wife makes political statements at a political campaign rally in a public forum, on stage (not in private)... and it's OFF LIMITS???
Anything that doesn't serve Obama's path to becoming POTUS is always "low class" and a "distraction"
Getting so turned off by him and his constant blaming of others. Don't want a President who is always crying wolf, and playing the victim/race card. PERIOD.
Posted by: grace | May 19, 2008 10:26:56 PM
OOPS, dropped the "T" out of
K E N T U C K Y ...... unintentionally.
There, I put it back; that's the kind of change you want.....
Something you can count on!
Like always having Kentucky spelled the same way but visualizing changes that can work!
Hillary's Universal Health Care program over Obama's,economic programs which address the daily foreclosure of thousands of homes, training programs for the "new jobs",and and a variety of education incentives.
Hillary offers an abundance of solutions.. and the energy to carry them forward!
And SHE's not a whiner!
GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!
Posted by: questioner | May 19, 2008 9:37:48 PM
My prediction is Cindy McCain will divorce McCain IF he ever gets to our white house. She will have fulfilled her dream of marrying a president but will be holding a grudge over the losses she has had to take when forced to sell of her Sudan investments. Will she be the first to divorce while serving as first lady? Will she get to keep the white house or is there a prenup?
Just kidding...
Release Cindy McCain's tax returns before you go acting like Michelle Obama told a lie about this country. At least Michelle is honest! Can't say that about the rest of the political lot can ya?
Obama '08!
Posted by: Happy | May 19, 2008 9:12:46 PM
Yeah, why is the GOP picking on Larry Sinclair? Pick on Michelle if you have to...
Posted by: Mary | May 19, 2008 9:07:22 PM
Who's Obama calling "low class"? Didn't he learn from the "bitter and clingy" fiasco?
Posted by: There is no Great Lake in Oregon | May 19, 2008 9:02:34 PM
As the old adage goes, "All is fair in love and politics"
Of course wifes and their lives are just as much at issue as the politicials and their lives. The Obama Democrats hammered Hillary's spouse.
Obama better get used to the idea that what is good for teh goose is good for teh gander. I promise they will take mulititudes of ganders at this wife.
Obama typically sounds naive - showing his inexperience once more.
As an independent, I would have vote for Clinton if the nominee, but if the choice is Obama, then McCain is my presidental candidate.
Posted by: m | May 19, 2008 8:25:43 PM
Cindy keeps her nose to herself and is really not a part of this election.She should not be included.
Michele keeps her nose in the pie and deserves to get burned everynow and again.
Neither of them would have been able to take the garbage B O's followers have strewn at Hillary with the strength and presidential bearing that SHE has!
And I think for an ex-president who was/is beloved by a heck of a lot Americans, Bill Clinton took a lot of undeserved slams as well.
So, it's definitely past Michele's time
to receive back in tripicate all of her
invectives..
And I can think of no one more deserving and capable of this than Hillary; should she need a word or two to help her on her way... I will be happy to offer my assistance.;-)
GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!
Posted by: EYES EXTREMELY WIDE OPEN | May 19, 2008 8:19:06 PM
I can't believe you even bring this up as a legitimate question. Cindy McCain's tax returns is a legitimate campaign issue. The American people deserve to know if the gas fueling the "Straight Talk Express" is being financed by Anhauser Busch. IWhy are Cindy McCain's tax returns less relevant than say, Teresa Heinz Kerry's in 2004?
Posted by: Mary T | May 19, 2008 8:10:24 PM
Good try Randy - but the difference is very minor. Both wives are being linked to their husbands' ethics by insinuation. Michelle through patriotism, and McCain through her finances. If people want patriotic and financially ethical presidents, and spouses are proxies for this, then it has to work in both cases. Frankly I don't care about what Michelle said, and I dont give a dayum what's in Cindy's tax returns. They wont tell us anything useful. Obama already made a big stink out of Clinton's returns, and all we found out was she made $$$ - just like he has now started doing. Big deal. You guys are becoming Ken Starr. It's frightening.
Posted by: Tony | May 19, 2008 8:08:51 PM
Another Aussie, perhaps you have been wrestling crocodiles, but the US Senate is not the same as a state senate. State senators represent districts and make state and local policy. US senators represent the entire state and make national and foreign policy. The difference is enormous. During Obama's brief time in the US Senate, he has primarily campaigned for the presidency. He has missed far more votes this year than Clinton.
Posted by: Tony | May 19, 2008 8:05:17 PM
Hey, Julia. Join the club. I am black, and I never saw the hype. Soon after I started listening to him and watching how people reacted to him, I knew that there was something really sick happening. He doesn't say much of anything, but gets hyped beyond measure. 75k people to hear the prince of peace talk about hope? LOL. That's absolutely frightening.
Posted by: Tony | May 19, 2008 7:59:15 PM
Michelle Obama is yet another reason why I am not voting for Barack Obama. She is scary, angry, hostile, and ill-mannered. From "I want to rip his [Bill Clinton's] eyes out" to America "is a downright mean country," this woman is no lady, and should never become the First Lady. Michelle lacks both wit and grace. Her $500 shoes and $1,000 blouses can't make up for her churlish rhetoric.
Posted by: thecandypoem | May 19, 2008 7:58:46 PM
if they are on the campaign trail, i would say what they say there is subject to scrutiny. Michelle is being criticized for things she said. While I consider that asinine, it's kind of a sweet justice, given how the Repubs. did the same to Hillary. When they asked her, "Ms. Rodham, you're a successful lawyer, you have your last name...blah blah...what type of first lady will you be? answer: well, i won't be sitting around baking cookies." Innocent? yes. to the repubs. she insulted every woman in america who baked cookies for her kids! it was absolutely stupid. they kept attacking and she would be less visible, but the repubs. found an enemy in hillary: a proud, educated, fighting woman. Next thing you know, they were investing and investigating and investigating and finding nothing. when you young kids today buy into the madness the clinton is such an awful beast you really need to know how it all started. it was very difficult hearing fellow democrats do the same to her that the repubs. did. well, payback will be royal.
Posted by: Tony | May 19, 2008 7:56:25 PM
Michelle Obama is loathsome. And, to add two words used by her own husband, she's also "detestable" and "low-class".
Posted by: s. valenti | May 19, 2008 7:32:37 PM
Somehow this attack on Michelle will be blamed on Hillary.
And she will be called a racist.
Obama the whiner....His protective bubble is bursting.
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 19, 2008 7:32:18 PM
Obama is just trying to build sympathy for his wife. She is a disaster waiting to happen.
He knows how abrasive and grumpy she is and that she will likely come up with another radical statement.
Rumors are rampant on blogs about Michelle saying something offensive caught on tape.
He needs to send her on a cruise with his pastor.
Hillary or McCain (a true patriot)
Posted by: cindy in nc | May 19, 2008 7:24:35 PM
Tina from Florida said: I remember when Obama supporters were asking Chelsea Clinton about Monica. I don't recall many Obama supporters saying anything was wrong with that. Can you say hypocrite.
Um you need to get your facts straight Tina. The first person to ask about Monica was a CLINTON SUPPORTER as I recall.
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Dennis In Orlando, FL | May 19, 2008 7:06:18 PM
The phony hypocrite has been attacking his fellow dems presidential candidates, and the spouse of HRC, including framing him being a racist. Now he is the cry baby again. It is scary to think this phony could even be considered as a pres not to imagine that he might have a shot at it.
Posted by: fat cat | May 19, 2008 6:55:27 PM
If you do not want people denouncing the hatred words, keep her mouth shut and hide her in the closet. If you sent her out campaigning for you, and when she bad-mouthing the country you are seeking for presidency you want people lay off her, you are proven again yourself a phony hypocrite.
Quit, and leave the dems a chance to win the general election.
Posted by: tools | May 19, 2008 6:46:47 PM
Obama is a whiner.
His wife is a loose cannon just one slip of the mouth from sinking the Obama paper ship.
Posted by: Sally J. | May 19, 2008 6:31:46 PM
The problem with taking such a silly stance and thinking another party should be expected to honor it is that he's running for President of the United States. If she doesn't want to be quoted or have her comments or views vetted, she needs to keep her mouth shut. Obama believes that somehow he should be handled differently than any other candidate. He likes for his campaign to make nasty comments and then steps away. He plants his supporters in other candidates' audiences and steps away. It gives a huge insight into this man's psyche and his unwillingness to play by the rules because of his feelings of entitlement. They're both very silly people. For you Obama supporters who want to cry racism: I am African American, a long time voter, and a well educated professional and he's not getting my vote. I see right through this guy's game. It took me a while, but I after I really started to listen to his "speeches" and watch his reactions, I found there's something disengenuous about this man. All glitter and no substance. He's going to lose this election for Democrats because of his arrogance and unwillingness to simply know that he's not ready.
Posted by: Julia | May 19, 2008 6:28:24 PM
I think John McCain should come out with a similar statement saying his wife and her finances are "off limits."
Then what will the content-free Obama supporters write about?
I'm so embarrassed that Barack made this silly statement. It's something that will NEVER happen, and what's more, this will be discussed for a couple of days.
That's a pure rookie error. If the intent is to create a "poor me" scenario, someone better tell him he's in the hottest kitchen in the world and is going to find very little sympathy.
Posted by: sherr | May 19, 2008 6:24:21 PM
Hillary 08!!!!!!!!!
No other choice no other option. Truly ready on day one to start fixing this mess Bush has made.
Go Hillary !!!!!!!!
Posted by: AC-n-NC | May 19, 2008 6:15:23 PM
Since Michelle Obama made the offensive statements about America being "mean" American's souls being "broken" and being proud for the first time in her adult life, while campaigning for her husband, how can she and Barack expect that everyone will "lay off?" What you say on the campaign trail is clearly fair game for political discussion! Why should it be otherwise? I think Cindy McCains tax returns are another matter entirely.
The more I learn about the Obamas, the more I dislike them. Right now, my reaction is antipathy, but is is inching toward revulsion.
The New York Times on Friday quoted a Republican who voted for Democrat Travis Childers as saying he thought he hated Hillary Clinton until the Obamas came along. Its not hard to figure out why. Hillary's comment about baking cookies pales in comparison to the Obamas' greatest hits designed to offend and alienate every demographic: bitter/cling, not proud, "hold on sweetie," "typical white person." If the Obamas left anyone out I'm sure they will catch them later.
I say we the offended should unite against the Obamas to elect a worthy president.
Posted by: NJH | May 19, 2008 5:52:43 PM
Nelly R. Addison, Tx :
I would say that 95% of the meanspirited off-topic slime and mud was directed at Hillary..... not by your teflon-King of course... but by his minions.
Just as he told his followers in Michigan to vote "uncommitted" because he knew he couldn't have one at that time..... so did he encourage the mean, vindictive outrageous posts which filled the ethernet in his behalf.
So I can't understand why you feel the way you do.
But I definitely agree that Hillary has never treated Obama the same way as he and his followers have treated her!
As for those of you to think the race is over..... think again.
There are still a couple of primaries down the road...... and Obama's supporters are dropping out day by day.
Give 'em Hell, Hillary!!!
Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN | May 19, 2008 5:27:04 PM
NellyR,
Obama did tease Hillary on his rally many times about the sniper fire.
Posted by: catleya | May 19, 2008 5:16:50 PM
Another word come out from his dictionary: " Low Class"
after " Bitter", "Sweetie"
Are they high class?
Posted by: catleya | May 19, 2008 5:11:24 PM
Another Aussie,
Do you live in US or Aussie?
Most of foreigner watch CNN most of time.
If you do so, you know all the positive about Obama beside the negative one.
Posted by: catleya | May 19, 2008 5:07:14 PM
I remember when Obama supporters were asking
Chelsea Clinton about Monica. I don't recall many Obama supporters saying anything was wrong with that. Can you say hypocrite.
Posted by: Tina from Florida | May 19, 2008 5:05:19 PM
i am more than sure that had we had an opportunity to re-run the dem primary, obama would lose hands down.
unfortunatley, it is too late in the game, so to make sure that the party does not break down, the 'supers' are 'uniting' behind obama....
i am seriously afraid that the man is not qualified to be a senator, let alone be a president based on
1.Michelle Obama's I've-never-been-proud-of-America comments
2. attitude toward America most colorfully set out by Rev. Wright (church Obama sat in for 20 years+).
we are heading for the biggest disapppointment here. while a great fund-raiser and a person who gets 90% of the black vote, he is not getting more than 30+% of the white vote recently. and that is among the democrats.... who are 'color-blind'. america should wake up. it is better to offer obama a sweet deal and pacify the blacks and get hillary elected.
Posted by: s | May 19, 2008 4:52:32 PM
Another Aussie,
""Barack Obama did speak out when they made the pimping out comment he also stuck up for clinton in the debates about sniper fire !""
And don't forget, it was Obama that stood up for Hillary after she broke down at that little press gathering in NH. All the other candidates BOTH Democrats and Republicans made fun of her. No, it was Obama that showed her some compassion and respect. That is the reason I will always hate everything Clinton for the remaining of my lifetime. He has been nothing but respectful while they have been ghetto. Whatever they have been, they sure in hell haven't treated him in the SAME manner he's treated them! Therefore, the Clintons are dead to me.
Posted by: Nelly R. Addison, Tx | May 19, 2008 4:35:06 PM
There's too much focus on the husbands as well. People seem to be obsessed by personalities and trivia to the extent that the issues get overlooked.
Posted by: BrixtonTube | May 19, 2008 4:31:48 PM
If Bill Clinton is fair game, then so is Michelle Obama. There cannot be a double standard just because she's a wife and not a husband.
Sen. Obama might have a leg to stand on if his wife wasn't an active campaigner for him. But she is, and quite a virulent one at that. It seems to me that Ms. Obama has earned most of her criticism.
Both Sen. and Mrs. Obama need to recognize that the scrutiny is only going to get worse.
Posted by: Jo in Nevada | May 19, 2008 4:28:05 PM
Here comes the whining from Obama again. "Better lay off my wife" or else?? ooooo... we are scared. What is he going to do? Get over yourself dude.. you are pathetic. Your wife deserves to be chastised for her rotten comments. Obama said it is low class.. ha ha what a joke. Hillary puts this guy to shame on all fronts. Hillary has been picked on, ridiculed, shamed, you name it. Do you see her crying? Nothing anyone can do or say about her or Bill (or Chelsea) ruffles her. She is a rock. Obama is the biggest whiner I have ever witnessed in politics in my lifetime. Democrats, choose wisely before you pick this idiot for a nominee.
Posted by: Mare | May 19, 2008 4:19:01 PM
THE DEMOCRATS USE THE DAME PLAY BOOK ALMOST ALL THE TIME. REMEMBER --GRAVITAS--
WE REPUBLICANS WOULD DO GOOD TO TAKE A LESSON OR TWO AND START WORKING TOGETHER, AND THEN WE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE. WE HAVE TO MANY SPLINTER GROUPS. LETS TAKE THE BEST OF MOST OF THESE SPLINTER GROUPS AND COME TOGETHER AS ONE. ALSO WE NEED TO PUT IN TERM LIMITS. tO MUCH OF WHAT GOES ON IN WASHINGTON IS TO SUIT THE PERSON IN OFFICE, AND NOT THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE.
Posted by: JAMES | May 19, 2008 4:15:15 PM
Michelle Obama is loathsome.
Posted by: s. valenti | May 19, 2008 4:13:02 PM
I think the comparison is Bill Clinton. BHO did go after Clinton after Bill attacked him.
I'm not sure that BHO ran an ad against Bill.
Before Teresa Hines Kerry, has there ever been attack ads against the spouse?
Your context is distorted in that the DNC led the charge. You can't give McCain a pass on ads ran by these Republican 527s and state parties on Rev. Wright on one hand saying McCain did not appreciate it but did nothing to stop the hit---at the same time hold an equal and opposite position on Obama.
Which is it?
Do you subscribe the Republican state parties' ads to McCain/RNC as one group and hold Obama to that standard, or do you only subscribe DNC/Obama as one group and NOT hold McCain/RNC to that standard?
Posted by: Genna | May 19, 2008 4:11:14 PM
Who called you any of them !
Yes, I am stupid, poor, white, old, silly, typical white person and I will vote for John McCain if Hillary is not the nominee
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 4:00:34 PM
Obama is really hypocritical to claim that is wife is above criticism, when his campaign has made a cottage industry of slamming Bill Clinton (also a spouse), to say nothing of standing by while the news media says Chelsea Clinton in being "pimped out."
Michelle Obama's I've-never-been-proud-of-America comments are game, when you consider that they reflect an attitude toward America most colorfully set out by Rev. Wright, whose church Obama sat in for 20 years.
Posted by: David H | May 19, 2008 3:55:28 PM
Hillary1st,McCain2nd
If youd really choose Mccain over Obama then yes I think you are! Obama is going to be the nominee Hillary still might be vp but we will see!
McCain is a mistake and racebaiting is wrong!
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 3:47:48 PM
"If wives are off limits in the politics theater -- as Sen. Barack Obama suggested on this morning's GMA should be the case-- then are Democrats not guilty of the same sin by attacking Cindy McCain for not releasing her tax returns?"
Yes, but since when does logic matter in presidential politics?
The truth is, if they want to live in the WH and represent America they are NOT off limits.
However, Cindy inheritied her money long before she met and caputred McCain's heart, and her tax returns are nobody's business.
Besides, Cindy IS proud of America.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | May 19, 2008 3:40:27 PM
Michell is on Obama's campaign and she must be reponsible for that and I think
it's unfair to attack Cindy income tax return. Obama is running for change and it's the old politic if he tries to attack Cindy's income tax return.
Posted by: Stephanie | May 19, 2008 3:33:05 PM
Hillary1st,McCain2nd
Well look at you cant make a reasonable argument to back up your statement!
EYES WIDE OPEN
I get you like hillary so do I.
I just think Obama is better you think Clinton is better.
I would vote for either over a republican!
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 3:06:38 PM
Why is it that it is always posters with women's names that defend Hillary as the best candidate?
Hillary ran a poor campaign and mis-managed millions of dollars. She remains in the campaign only to continue raising money to pay off debt--since the gov't doesn't allow continued solicitation for money if you drop out.
America supports OBama AND McCain because they promise to work across the aisle and to try and eliminate the hate that is spewed by people on blogs and talk radio.
Posted by: jim | May 19, 2008 3:03:49 PM
ANOTHER AUSSIE:
I don't hate him.
On the other hand, I don't believe he is the best of the two candidates.
When he started this campaign, the only stuff we knew was the self-perpetuating hype of his two semi-autobiographical novels.
In other words..... whatever he said.
Now we know more.
Now my support of Hillary is even more firm, which is why I say:
GIVE 'EM HELL, HILLARY!!!
Posted by: EYES WIDE OPEN | May 19, 2008 2:56:55 PM
Hillary1st,McCain2nd
No because you dont explain how they are ?
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 2:53:09 PM
If Obama had time to read the online blogs, he would really be upset. If your a presidential nominee, all of your family except your children under 18 should be assessed. Chelsea has been slammed, Bill Clinton has been double slammed - and all by Obama supporters. Sooo, it's turnaround fair play. You can't make the rules in the middle of the game just because you don't like the politics you became such a big part of. You thought Hillary was tough on you, this is just the beginning. But, don't worry, I'm sure your fawning media will stick up for you and make the GOP look bad for daring to pick on you and your family which includes your father, cousin, Uncle Wright, etc. and...your wife who speaks not only for herself, but for you. Why anyone would want to get in the political game and take all the crap that comes with it?????
Posted by: Bon53 | May 19, 2008 2:44:24 PM
How are they racist Barack is Black and white his whole family looks like America does all the races!
What have they done thats spiteful ?
He has held a public office longer than Clinton has I think they are both great I just think Obama is better!
Your arguments dont stand up to reason !
So again I ask really why wont you vote for Obama ??
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 2:36:55 PM
What's the word on this allegedly controversial Michelle Obama "whitey" video that the GOP has locked up? They're waiting until the fall to release it, evidently. Which would mean one thing: President McCain
Posted by: Sarah | May 19, 2008 2:31:17 PM
Personal attacks on spouses should be off limits, that said, Cindy has been using her family's wealth and perks, such as the companies personal jet.
Posted by: Louis | May 19, 2008 2:27:36 PM
EYES WIDE OPEN,
And ? I still dont get why you hate Obama ? I dont hate Hillary ! She just lost fairly... I dont understand the hate ?
Posted by: Another Aussie | May 19, 2008 2:22:19 PM
No one has gotten it yet - Obama makes the rules. Attacking Obama is stupid because you will be called a racist.
Posted by: Anne | May 19, 2008 2:19:51 PM
"Hillary was never off limits during the campaign in 92 or 96."
Nor will Michelle be. But Bill Clinton said the same thing: "You ought to be ashamed of yourself for jumping on my wife. You're not worth being on the same platform as my wife." -- Bill to Jerry Brown.
As for Cindy McCain -- that's really McCain's money (that is, equivalent to the joint returns of other candidates). So by by funneling his real money through her and filing separately, he has made it necessary to release her returns. As for what Cindy thinks or does, nobody cares. Once she releases them she will be irrelevant.
"Why released something that doesn't belong to him?" Are you kidding? He doesn't use the 9 houses and private jet she(he) owns?