Political Punch

In response to Diana:

First off, you're a Bush-backer, now that's the worst thing. The vast weight of Bush's incompetence (remember the way conservatives threw around "accountability" in the 80's and 90's? No?) alone should make you think again and again about how and why you rationalize your stance behind him.

Second, what does your strange need for originality have to do with telling the truth? Is the truth boring to you? I'll tell you what isn't original - a conservative being obstinate and stubborn to the point of self-destruction, simply because they can't deal with being wrong. FYI, that is not a virtue, nor is it a moral or ethical attitude to have.

Finally, as a metaphorical proof to #2, I liken the belief by some that Global warming is not man-driven to those who once thought the earth was flat. It seems they were so busy being busy that they chose not to deal with the truth - that the earth is round and that Global warming is caused by man. That, or nature has a keen sense of humor by perfectly aligning climate change with the industrial revolution and the burning of coal and oil. That nature, yuk-yuk.

Will someone please point to something--anything--that Bush has done as president that is any good?

I have worked 20+ years with county, state and federal government and my wife and I have 3 small children.
My family has worked right up to the White House. We once sat at parades with various US Presidents.
Why is it that several good friends of mine who have worked in high level intel quit?
(of course they really do love this nation)
They are sick of the crap of Reps and Dems. One of them has moved his family OUT of the United States ?
One of them was a major player in the FBI.
Father GOD have mercy on this beloved United States. For the sake of our nations children's future!!
II Chron 7:14

Finally, someone is telling the truth about the reckless and abominable actions of this Administration. I think the Bushies are scared out of their minds (which accounts for the verbals abuse we are hearing from them towards McClellan) because they just may have to spend much of their ill-gotten gains on attorney fees.

While the Bush Administration made errors of judgement, it is the worst hypocrisy to accuse them of evil motives. As far as the Iraq war is concerned, I am sick of critics continuing to say "Bush lied and people died." Can't you Bush-bashers come up with your own original thoughts? Everyone seems to forget that it was the terrorists who openly declared war on America. Intelligence agencies through out the world believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, and post-invasion reports concluded that Saddam maintained the capability to produce WMDs on short notice. There was abundant evidence of contacts between Saddam's regime and al-Qaida and other terrorist groups. Given Saddam's hostility to the United States and his neighbors, as well as Saddam's stonewalling of the United Nations, American leaders had every reason to believe Saddam posed a grave threat. Whatever the reasons for going into Iraq, that is where international terrorists have converged to fight their war against the United States. Pulling out of Iraq will not stop the terrorists' war on us, but only allow them to claim a huge victory as the "war on terror" shifts to another front -- very possibly on U.S. soil.

Spoiled, stupid rich brat takes his country to the edge of disaster. That sums up Bush.

== Orifice ==
With Scott McClellan proving that he speaks out of both sides of his mouth, I have to wonder what orifice he used to communicate this book and will use on his book tour.

One-quarter (25%) of Americans are on prescription painkillers--some form of legal heroin. Another 25% are taking prescription pills of some kind, most of which probably zonk you out. Most of the remaining 50% seem to be on some form of illegal drug--or alcohol. So, leave George be. If you had taken mescaline, lsd, qualudes, heroin, etc., would you remember if you had had ecstacy? George's problem is not the cocaine--it's the fact that he is still after 7 years unqualified to be president and makes and has made terrible decisions; he's a war criminal. He should have been impeached long ago.

The president is a born liar. There is a chance that his cocaine abuse have killed what there was of his mind. Apart from that he is compulsively untruthful as are most republicans.

Unsurprising on some level. Bush didn't lie, because you have to have some passing acquaintance with or grasp of the truth in order to lie.

Gotta say this, and have been saying it for a while: GWB is the first president of the United States whose status as such I regard as an on-going insult to me personally. I've worked all of my life, and it's this piece of human excrement who failed all the way up to the POTUS that gets the laurel crown? We need to REMOVE him from office. I'm thinking a tumbrel on the way to the town square, and a quick execution.

Now that Scott has assuaged his sorry
conscience for the purpose of making a buck and saving his own legacy, will he testify, or will he still be subject to executive privilege in the Cheney War Crimes trial?
For all those in the Liberal Media (Chris Matthews) who are so surprised that McClellan is now throwing Bush "under the bus," they should pull up the tapes of him being asked to comment during time of the Libby trial. He was pissed, as was Ari Fleischer. (And, while you're at it, pull up the tapes of Chris Matthews in the lead-up to the war.) No-one should be surprised that McClellan has decided to turn the tables on Rove, Libby, and Cheney. To his credit, he didn't wait until after the next inauguration to publish the book. Don't you just love how today all the Bushies (Rove, Bartlett, Perino...) are saying that Scott sounds "like a left wing blogger?" Talking points on parade, just like the propaganda Scott was forced to parrot. It would be hilarious if it were not so tragic. Too bad that same Liberal Media didn't fight to have all the votes recounted in Florida in 2000, but they "just wanted it to be over." Deja vu, anyone?
As to the cocaine allegations, let George W. Bush be the case study you show your kids: Drugs mess up your brain...permanently.

When your falling down drunk blackouts do occur.

The place in Houston where Bush did his community service, after he was convicted of possession, probably had those records scrubbed in the late 1970's before his father ran for president. I guess no one in the Bush family could get a court clerk in Kennebunkport Maine to pull a few files for them.

Of course, dubya may still be using cocaine and can't remember it.

Why is everyone so surprised at what Bush has done? Does anyone remember when he had the hidden microphone during the debates? Just think, you publicans voted for him twice.

I heard Bush say. 'You know, the truth is I honestly don't remember whether I tried it or not. We had some pretty wild parties back in the day, and I just don't remember.'

"I remember thinking to myself, How can that be? How can someone simply not remember whether or not they used an illegal substance like cocaine? It didn't make a lot of sense."

If Mr. Bush was so intoxicated that he doesn't remember breaking the law, what does that say about him, both then and now?

It's obvious from his verbal aphasia that Bush abused drugs and alcohol. He is a lowlife little fratboy, and the worst president we've ever had.

Sweet Lord...when is the reign of King George done???!!!

Alright, people, I think I've got it.

To capture the conservative mind into one line; "There's living things that need to be dead."

This burning Bush

Somehow our emotional reaction to 9/11 was diverted
hi-jacked by a pre-existing fuse ignited by political bias
whereas a mature change in the philosophy we apply
meant to lead to resolution
was taken and shifted by a man devout
to the vices of greed and aggression

For a moment think, and revisit the obvious point
that the millennium end stirred religious fervor
so then the death-wish strike by an altered slant
of some desperate, God-grasping needy
led to an opportunity for a mediocre president
to saddle and ride a profound event

Chase and fail, go to misdirect
succeed abysmally, so tout a hit
ignore truth when it suits the cause
or sell it as a blameless action within the laws

Be aware of the reasoning
of this seasoned villain

He is also a blinder, blocking sight of those he deigns
worthy to beget his stance, if they add to his reign
respect for intellect is now inappropriate, irreligious science overlooked
so not likely can there be a trial for what cannot be perceived

A sure sign of how demure we are
if no one cares to confront denial

This Bush that burns is now rooted in an old forest
he cannot leave because he will not
and now new hate has been born in a careless ember
so the ensuing flames may engulf all regardless

Whether or not it is my time to go
I did not decide
to be quiet or compliant
or give my consent
to be consumed by this burning Bush

Geof Erdahl - 2004

Whaddya say, Folks? Think geevill is really Carville? or perhaps Bush's geevill twin?

Bush lied people died! Also, the voting machines are rigged, so for all we know Kerry won the 04 election. Not like it matters, since they are both admittingly members of Skull & Bones! Bush W. grandfather was Prescott Bush, do a google search. All I can say is Nazi! You do the math!

Scott is, or was in serious denial. Bush has always been a liar, about every aspect of his life. If it weren't for his name and parents, he'd be sitting on a curb in Austin, Texas with a brown papper bag between his legs.
This "W" has been a loser all his life.
He's not a TEXAN, but likes to pay one!

no draft?
have you not heard of the "stop-loss" program?
that my friends is a back-door draft.

Geevil,

"enough with the anti-war crap. there is no draft."

Look up H.R. 393. I doubt it will go anywhere, it got crushed in 2003. What worries me is that it is sponored and cosponsored by Democrats.

Everyone here is playing the lying blame game. They all lie, but so far Barack's "gaffes" haven't killed 4,000 American soldiers.

Susan Graves - I had Bush figured out in 2000 too. I went to high school with rich kids like him. Never had to answer for anything, and daddy's connections always kept them out of trouble. I was in the Marines at the time and it was popular to root for Bush. I knew he had a grudge with Saddam. I knew he would go back. Nearly every white male I encountered throughout the 90s complained that Clinton didn't. People in the military supported Bush because he would give them a raise. My response then was "What good is a raise gonna do if you're dead?" .........and sure enough, 7 years later we have THIS.

With the enormous amount of evidence that Bush and his administration lied to the American People,for over 7 years and ended costing us thousands of American lives, trillion of dollars, and depressing our economy and our respect around the world, how on earth can anyone defend him or his policies. But, that is exactly what McCain is doing. Obama is not perfect, he like the Clintons have made mistakes, but you can't say that he has caused the needless death of thousands of Americans. Bush holds that batton, which he want to hand off to McCain. Wake up people!!!

"Obama has already told more lies than Bush could ever dream of."

I'm sorta speechless over this comment...

I mean, even Bush supporters couldn't think this is true, could they?

McClellan at least had the integrity to come forth and admit what most Americans already knew about Bush & his GOP. I'm not surprised at all to hear about this Bush, Cheney , Rove & GOP corruption that has screwed over this nation for the last 7 years. Also...it will come as no surprise that the White House’s only response to the book will be to take cheap shots that accuse McClellan of being disgruntled or disingenuous. Since they have no moral compass or integrity to stand on...and since the record of Republican corruption and treachery against the USA these last 7 years speaks for itself...they really do not have a leg to stand on in their defense against the content in McClellan's book. If Dana Perino and others loyal only to the Bush Crime Family & the Republican Party had any sense, they would simply keep their mouths shut and quit accusing McClellan of being a disgruntled person. The more you complain about McClellan’s book, the more obvious you make your own sins against the USA.

Has anyone heard Obama talking about a real issue?

if you all hated bush why are you gonna vote for mcsame dont you understand why bush is supporting him so bush can have a third term its really not that complicated people you have brains use them!!!!!

Good to hear Scott telling it like it is.

Jack

I love the way you focus in on the really pertinent facts. You should be a philosopher!

"being evasive is not the same as lying in Bush's mind..."

well, how "plenty smart" is that to be?

What it is is plenty entitled.

Some rich kids never have to grow up to be responsible for the consequences fo their actions, do they?
All McClellan was supposed to be is part of Bush's cleaning unit.
Now we get to see just what it is that he was really tossing into the trash.
I don't care whether he remembered snorting.
I care that he can't remember enough to give anyone a reason for why we are in Iraq today.
And I care that we are a country feckless enough to have let this happen.

How much more definitely capable of malfeasance can a president be?
What does he have to do, aim at live Iraqis on the White House lawn before we hold him accountable?

gala1

Oh, how brave they all become after they have finished their term of service - but where is that moral courage when they are in there aiding and abetting the super villains? All these ex-bushies, like Colin Powell, could have made a world of difference and ground the war machinery to a halt had they spoken up when it mattered - and millions of lives wouldn't have been destroyed. Better late than never, I guess. Heroism is dead. The republic is lost.

What a disgraceful presidency! As the regime crumbles, the once repressed insiders are coming out. What else can you say about Bush, but The Worst Ever, a Miserable Failure. Right up until November of 2006 and the whipping the GOP took, Bush was still saying everything was going fine in Iraq and that Rumsfeld and Cheney were doing a terrific job. It was the most obscene propaganda I have ever seen, for an unnecessary war that has left 4,000 Americans dead and run our country into the ground.

Maybe bush should check the arrest records, in 1972, of the Harris County Jail, Texas, when, as Governor of the State, he was taken there for cocaine possession. Instead of having formal charges filed against him, as most other Texans would have been, he avoided jail time through an informal diversion plan involving community service with Project P.U.L.L., an inner city Houston program for troubled youths at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in that city's dirt-poor Third Ward. This "community service" was arranged by his father.

Later, in a clintonesque manner, Junior, in 1989, under persistent questioning, said that he had "not used cocaine in the previous seven years". He went further to deny that he had used cocaine "since 1974".

In fact, Bush has refused to answer the new FBI standard, about any drug used after the age of 18. He has refused to answer whether he could have passed the FBI test when his father was vice president during the eight years from 1981-1989.

...and, if William Degan were still alive, he could testify to his filming of Bush, at a Florida airport, with two kilos of coke in hand. However, Degan was sent to Ruby Ridge, by Bush Sr, where he was killed in the Randy Weaver shootout.

Does this jog anyone's thinking, besides that of Bush's former press secretary, McLellan...?

It's strange how McLellan exposes and defends Bush at the same time. I would say the book lends itself to some really convoluted reading.

Now, if only Fallon would write a book as well.

geevil - no he hasn't. You're nuts.

really - is this book required? did anyone in the world believe iraq was necessary or that katrina could not be better handled..... i mean the world knows that bush is a just dumb - plain and simple..... the beauty of it is that he had two terms as president - WOW!

geeville, your phrase "lack of ethics and truthfullness and the willingness to lie and mislead the Public" yields no hits on a search. Does one need to listen to Limbaugh to pick this up?

Slowly, steadily the truth will emerge, layer by layer until the whole pattern takes shape and form, as in the unburdening of our conscience of some long-dark held secret -- the full pattern has yet to emerge, this is just a part!

It became clear early on that Bush didn't like to hear every side to an issue before deciding the course. He preferred to decide first then have his staff fix the "facts" to support that decision. This is not a leadership style that yields great decisions.

I forgot to add Clinton to my list. In my opinion, she wins the championship belt.

Too little too late Scotty. Why didn't you act when it would have made a difference? I think you're in the right, but you're a coward to have waited so long before bringing the truth to light.

If you like Bush, which I don't think anybody really does, then you'll love McCain.

Obama '08

Is this the behavior we should teach our children...Bush "has a way of falling back on the hazy memory to protect himself from potential political embarrassment. In other words, being evasive is not the same as lying in Bush's mind...

In light of the storm over the McClellan bombshells, it was probably easy to overlook the obviously unselfconscious body language of Senator McCain when bidding farewell to the President in Phoenix yesterday. It looks like after he shook hands with Mr. Bush and the President walks off, Sen. McCain brushes his hand off (recheck the video). It's those unscripted moments which probably tell the real story.

What is more insightful is how McClellan
is on the Bush adminsitration lack of ethics and truthfullness and the willingness to lie and mislead the Public on important issues such as Iraq, Katrina etc.

I hope this time the voters, vote on the issues, America cannot handle a McCain Administration.

Yes, Bush "veered TERRIBLY OFF course" -- Scott McClellan's own words --, and the country is NOW paying the prize for it. SHAMEFUL.

I must be the smartest person 'I' have ever known. I had Bush figured out year's ago,... and you could tell Scott was being made to believe his own word's but wasn't too convincing.

Bush lied, people died.

Wonder how many other Bush staffers will grow a pair and tell the truth? Sadly, it will be a couple decades before the extent of this hand-puppet presidency's wealth of lies, misleadings, and crimes are fully unveiled and understood.

George Costanza expressed it best - "remember Jerry - if you believe it - it is not a lie."

wow... what else can you say...wow