Political Punch

It seems like a ton of nonsense in this comment thread. The three choices are the past, the same or the future. having lived through the past, I don't need to go back there and more of the same sounds stupid to me. Why waste the next four years fighting old battles with our best fighter? We probably won't get anywhere while we're fighting and the future we held back will arrive anyway. I myself think we should move forward now. Just my 2 cents, Peace

Hey Cohen, too late! We already know it was a "talking point" that you went along with. Wow, the Obama camp is full of old people with poor judgement. This is change?

alee25, we recognize it and because of that, we are helping others to see it too. My husband, friends and relatives have all changed from Obama at first, to Hillary. This is an example of the Obama strategy since the beginning and Jake was great enough to slip it in. Poor Jake, you know Obamas are going to rip him for it. To Danielle, it's okay, I am half black and I am so worried that most white non racists will become racists due to Obama's tactics. I know a lot of black people who do not support him precisely because of his race bating. He and all the supporters who rush to him (90% black) make us blacks seem petty and superficial. That's why none of them could state anything about him other than he's not old and so he's change. Many of us do think and make decisions without race as a qualifying factor.

Danielle made one of the best posts I've seen on here in six months.

for Obama supporters, it's all about your boy. You don't care about the democratic party at all.

you have ruined the chance for the demos to win this fall. you have divided the party.

thanks a lot you radicals, not only for another Republican president, but you have destroyed the Democratic party as we know it.

It is hard for me to acknowledge recent attitudes I am seeing in myself, they are foreign to me. I am a 48 year old white middle class educated white collar worker. I have hired many black people over whites in my management position, not because of skin color but because I thought they were the best candidate for the position. I have voted for black political candidates. I have had black friends who I shared holidays with. In other words I have always been color blind. But, yesterday I read Bob Herbert's column, and started thinking about comments from Obama supporters and prominent black commentators and politicians such Clyburn, Roland Martin's trashing of Hillary on a daily basis on CNN, Rep Lewis changing his vote from Hillary to Obama in SC because he felt pressured, then seeing a video of Sheila Jackson-Lee being booed by a group of blacks because she supports Hillary, now this black Senator from NJ getting behind Obama due to threats to his position by the black caucus, Jesse Jackson Jr, Obama's co-chair, and his racist remarks against Hillary and saying she didn't care about Katrina, that Bill Clinton needs to butt out and shouldn't be a part of the campaign supporting his wife, then there is Rev Wright and his black separatism and hate whitey remarks who Obama supported for 20 years until it started to hurt his campaign, on top of it all Michelle Obama's comments about not being proud of America in the past, her comments about there "ain't no blacks in Iowa," and her saying it is "our turn now," followed by him allowing his campaign to attack Hillary viciously while he tried to stay above it all and say he never attacked her, and then his campaign's four page press release to all the media outlets before SC trying to tarnish the Clinton's as racists which Obama denied until it was put in his face at a debate at which time he said in hindsight that was probably not a good thing to do while never offering an apology or elaborate on why he did it and I realized that I am starting to get an attitude towards black people that I never had in the past.

I don't think Obama is qualified for the position of President. I don't think he has enough experience. His resume is too thin. He never votes on politically sensitive or controversial issues lest he has to explain his position. But all along I thought that after a term in the Senate it may be a good time for him to run. Now I realize that I cannot vote for him no matter what, ever, he is too divisive. Not only did he forever lose my vote, but he has me questioning the ideals I always had in my life and my attitudes towards black people that I never harbored. He has pushed racial relations with his actions back more than 40 years, the actions of his campaign, and the actions of his supporters by calling everyone a racist for questioning him. It is sad that one man could do so much damage in the USA that took so many years to change.

BTW, don't try to tell us Obama doesn't realize he needs those white votes or else why would he be out drinking beers, which he hates, and bowling and all those other pandering things that he has been doing? Hillary was talking about demographics and Obama can't win in the general election without the people she is talking about. The people that voted for him in the primary are not enough to win him the WH.

I, and I know a lot of other people, are so sick of reading and hearing the Clinton's and those of us who criticize or do not support Obama being called racists. I am a white, educated white collar worker who does not think Obama has the experience to be President. My speaking out on that lack of experience, his short voting history and large voting history of just voting "present" so not to take a stand on politically sensitive or controversial issues is called unfair and racist. That his foreign policy experience is weak and that he has not held on meeting on Afghanistan despite being the Chair of that committee while he wants us to think he is all about taking care of the war in Afghanistan, if we bring it up we are racists. What has this world become if we cannot candidly criticize such actions of a candidate for the most coveted position in the world?

You Obama supporters do understand don't you that the General Election will not be just Democrats voting, that it will be all able to vote for either the candidate of the Republicans or the candidate of the Democrats and that Obama will need more than just those that voted for him in the primaries? That he will need Clinton supporters and that demographic of hard working white Americans that you all think she is being racist when talking about? Your comments that you are with us or you are a racist comments reminiscent of the Bush supporters and Obama has even less experience then him. Obama has a great speech of hope and change, but he offers no specifics on how he is going to do that. Don't tell me to read his policies, I have, they don't tell us how he plans to effect this change he is talking about. He is not even sure on which income level he is going to raise taxes on, it is above $90,000, then it is $200,000, then it is $250,000. But none of you Obama supporters are listening to that. He talks about long term plans, but not about how he is going to help people today when they need it.

I also find his wife's comments offensive, along with both of them trying to tell us how poor they grew up when in fact Michelle's father made more than $42,000 a year in the 1970s
(most families don't even make that today) supporting just two children and a wife while they lived in a nice community in the city near the University while she tries to imply she grew up in the slums. I am from a family of seven kids, growing up during the same period, my father didn't make that much and we never felt like we wanted for anything.

Then there is Obama and his I grew up with a single teen mother (she was 18 when he was born and she was married) on food stamps. Excuse us, she remarried when he was five, within two years of her and Obama's divorce to a VP of an Oil company. If she was on food stamps in those two years I find it odd her parents were not helping her out, but I guess she decided to go to school full time instead of working necessitating her to go on food stamps. Barack lived with his mother and new VP Step-Father until he decided at the age of 10 to move in with his grandparents. His grandmother being a VP at the Bank of Hawaii was not poor. She paid the majority of his education at the exclusive prep school
His mother eventually divorced her second husband, returned to Hawaii, obtained her Ph.D. and went back to Indonesia.

Actually, both of those issues represent quite a common theme in Obama and of his supporters. It is that the truth is twisted until it doesn't resemble reality and then we are told not to question it lest we be racist. Just like I have heard numerous time that he went to law school and then became a community organizer instead of working at full time as a lawyer, thus he is such a humanitarian. That is not true, he was a community organizer before he went to law school, after law school he went to work full time as an attorney. His $12,900 a year salary that he talks about during time as a Community Organizer was a lot more than he leads you to believe. It was actually quite a common income during the 1980s and not considered poverty level at all. Do you all realize that minimum wage was only $3.35 an hour during the 1980s thus he was making more than double that and costs were significantly lower. Gas was well under $1.00 a gallon, rents were typically under $200 a month. He tries to trick you into thinking that he was making that amount based on today's wages.

For those of you saying he got where he is on his own, that is a joke, he enlisted the help of Rev Wright whom he recently threw under the bus, of the Clinton's to get the coveted spot at the 2004 DNC Convention along with their help in getting his Senate seat. His first election to his part time job on the Illinois Senate he sued to get everyone off the ballot so he could run unopposed. His run for the US Senate he had an opponent, but surprisingly that candidates divorce papers from years past came out of no where hurting his ex-wife and children causing him to leave the campaign so once again Obama ran unopposed. Don't tell me that was unplanned. Now he runs for the first time with opposition and no one wants us to question him or any of his associates or actions from the past or we are racists. We are not supposed to judge his character or we are racists. We are not supposed to comment on his 20 year relationship with a Black separatist church or we are racists.

Hillary is his opponent in the primary race, it is not her position to prop him up or give him kudos's. It is her right and responsibility to prop herself up and bring out his faults the same as it is his about her. Why are people forgetting that? Her campaign didn't accuse him of killing someone like his campaign tried to push that she was responsible for the death of Benazir Bhutto. His campaign has been attacking her without hesitation since way before Iowa.

Hillary is the best choice for President of the US. You can call her and Bill racists, but it is not true and you all know that. You can say that made this contest was made about race because of their comments, but you know that is not true. It was Obama's campaign that sent out a four page press release bringing racism into the primary to all the press outlets before the SC vote and then denied it until it was put into Obama's face, then he said in hindsight that was probably not a good thing to do in one of the debates. But he did not say he was sorry or elaborate on it. Obama's campaign is the one that made this campaign about race, not the Clinton's. The Clinton's have fought for equality all their lives and to dismiss them with the slander that is now being done is a travesty. Bottom line, Obama won't win in a General Election, he, his campaign and his supporters have alienated too many of the people they would need to vote for him with their lies and trash talk.

We will remember this in the voting booth

Kael's la-ti-da latte sipping analysis reads like bull poop to this cowgirl. Alex Forrest is about seeing feminists as witches? Heck, no! I'd say it's about not seeing women at all. Alex is a crazy, touched in the head kind of lady who is as desperate as a hungry hornet. She's no more a feminist than HRC is a sissy. She's not a real woman period. She's just a pathetic, male chauvinist pigment of some fool's imagination. BTW, JTP, it would be nice if you'd lay low on that misogyny you lasso towards HRC. Afterall, it's Mother's Day.

Steve Cohen should apologize immediately to Senator Clinton for making such a sexist and divisive comment. He is alienating Clinton supporters even further by such utterances.

The only racist people in this nomination process are Obama and his ilk who have stoked the race card for all its worth and then scream foul if anyone criticizes them. Is that what it's going to be like should he get the Presidency? For the Obamaites who keep parroting each other, please go to the source and do your own analysis - you are being hoodwinked and bamboozled.

CharleyChaplin: I sympathize with your comment. It would be the answer to a dream to have a third party with Hillary at the helm. I fear, however, that she is too loyal to the Democratic Party to attempt such a thing. For me, then the issue becomes doing everything possible to stop Obama. That's why, come November, if Obama is the Democratic candidate, I and my family (and every other Democrat I've spoken to, by the way) will do everything in our power to assist in the election of John McCain. Better a centrist Republican, than an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, and racist Obama.

Hillary Clinton running strong everywhere! Now, Obama folks are running scared having manipulated many a caucus with small groups of zealots. Obama has not won a single battle ground state! He’s been propped up by the big media for so long; the plan was to rid of Hillary Clinton, because she was the stronger candidate. She's still running strong. She's 43 points over Obama in WV. Obama was mouthing "change" but he has always been the darling of big media and the corporate candidate. But the people in this country are behind Sen. Hillary Clinton all the way! Look, conservative political writers David Brooks, William Kristol, Robert Novak and others who were promoting and pulling for Obama and condemned Hillary Clinton are now turning back to McCain. All that was a big media ploy to defeat Hillary Clinton and but these guys are just about ready to poke a big hole in Obama’s presedential balloon!

Sen. Hillary Clinton should run as an independent candidate for president in the fall--I bet she can defeat both Obama and McCain. This would be like Sen. Joe Lieberman who lost in the democratic primary, but won in the general election! She could also get 80 million in public financing. Bill Clinton won a three-way race in’92, remember? Dump the creeps in the corrupt DNC!
Let’s hope and pray for Independent Hillary for 08!

(lol) This stuff is hilarious.

to Jack - if You are devided, do not extend it to entire Party. You personally is NOT a party and Obama is Honest, Respactable MAN. Only low-minded can take this desire of the majority of populations as a race of race.
Think, it does not hurt.

We are TIRED of this
make up" ir-rial image.
She is really Monster and the feelings discribed here are real for her. And it is already in physical sense - Stomch can not stand this Impudent, Rude, vulgar wonab, who absolutely lost female charm, but left FALSE all over and ugly image of Whimsical chils:"Give me that, cause I want it!"

It a shame to watch, how entire country is dancing to pleasse her and to play this game.

TIRED.

She was named here exactly what she is, in pretty soft manner.

Time to tell her that.

this is what the Dnc has been reduced to. Its no different then the GOP. How ridiculous.

Poster hip wrote: "John Mccain and Hillary are actually friends. John Mccain was quoted as having said Hillary would make a fantastic president. Hillary Clinton said she considered John Mccain to be one of her best friends. For a moderate like myself McCain is a great option over the far left racist Obama."

Maybe McCain was thinking of Hillary as his VP since Hillary will probably switch party out of her anger of being deserted by her friends (superdelegates) and bashed by her own party.

I think its funny some of the Obama supporters don't think the Hillary supporters will vote McCain in November. WATCH AND LEARN!

In 76 years we Democrats have only elected 3 Presidents. We have never elected a Liberal Leftist. We ran Kerry,lost,we ran Dukakis,lost,Kennedy campaigned against Carter but lost at the convention. Obama is #1 Leftest of all Senators in 2007. We have to win this election with Hillary Clinton. Since 1492 we have never elected a women leader, yet we watch Women lead nations all over the world. We preach to other countries to give equal rights to women ,yet we do not. The black man won the right to vote in 1870 while the black and white women waited another 50 years.On Aug. 26, 1920, the 19th Amendment granted the ballot to American women. We wait another 68 years and this August it is time we at last see if a women can do a better job than George Bush. Thanks to him our job will be a piece of cake.
Regards, Make the U.S. Proud Hillary 08

Mcain has a tremendous amount of respect in Washinton. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't all just a backroom deal to let him have 4 years.

At least the republicans haven't bashed me for being a woman. Hillary or McCain 2008

John Mccain and Hillary are actually friends. John Mccain was quoted as having said Hillary would make a fantastic president. Hillary Clinton said she considered John Mccain to be one of her best friends. For a moderate like myself McCain is a great option over the far left racist Obama.

The analogy is not far off!
Hillary Clinton makes Richard Nixon
look sane! Just look at those kooks
she has as advisors, Carville, Begala
etc! You can bet your house she has
an "enemies list" too!

What is wrong with these men? So much for starting the process of uniting this party. Kennedy's comments yesterday probably got McCain a few more votes and now this knucklehead's
comments just got McCain some more votes. Is this how the Democratic party intends to bring the half of this party who supports Clinton back into the fold?
I think they're being a little over-confident and arrogant and taking the other half of the party that supports Clinton for granted. I'm of an age where social issues such as abortion are not going to be a priority in deciding for whom to vote, so while I certainly do not support the Republican's positions on social issues,
I could still vote for McCain. I mean c'mon, I'm in a party right now where it's acceptable to equate Clinton with the Fatal Attraction character. I'm in a party where it's just expected that Clinton will make the sacrifice and take into account and prioritize other people's feelings and drop out. She's a women and that's what a woman should do.
I have no doubt if she were male that there would be calls for him to drop out
but I really doubt we would the see the venom that is directed towards Clinton directed towards him. I guess the Democrats are taking the women's vote for granted this election.

i know o' bama has the blck vote i want you to remember when bill had the black vote what has changed now with hillary are you voteing black because of o'bama because of race listen to hilary's commitment what bill did hilary will surpass ecomeny will be better health care will be better etc. you need to listen to her im not into women i love men but iknow she is the right person for president

We don't hate Obama and the fact that we wouldn't vote for him has nothing to do with race but with his lack of capacity, his divisivness, his radical friends, his selling of political favors in exchange fo money to Rezko and Blackwell, the old politics tactics he used to win the Illinois senator seat. He is fake and deceiving

How the party thinks that Obama can win without Democrats from California, Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan, Florida, ...? and the rural, blue collar, and Hispanic votes everywhere?

Elaine or Susan No a write in fo sen Clinton won't go to Obama. I would never vote for Obama but I would never vote for McCain either. stop campigning for him.

libre and Alice: I wish Hillary could win as an independent, but I fear that a write-in vote for her or no vote at all will result in a win for Obama. The best way to stop Obama if he is the Democratic candidate, is to vote for McCain. Better a Republican centrist, than an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, racist Obama.

Mrs. Hillary supporters please, please don't vote Republican, or you either write her name in the ballot or vote Nader. Democratic primary election are mostly open that gives room for manipulation. Let's hope Mrs. Clint on wins and we elect and re-elect her backers and new fresh people don't vote people who doesn't back her what we need is people who wants the best for this country.

Obama reminds me of Hercule. looks smart, but clumsy and nerdy.and a looser.

That's funny, really. Poor Hillary. I guess when you make promises to every constituencies inside and outside the U.S. one wonders how exactly you are going to make good on all of them and still govern the country. At least I do. Now, I gave her a bunch of money and I was quite willing to see her win. But it is just not meant to be. And if Obama looses against McCain, that's just the way it goes. History is in the making.

Ainsley Mccullagh :

Hillary DID win her primary!

RCO:I prefer the story of Alice Palmer as told by Alice Palmer..
and that wasn't the only election in which Obama was a candidate which went
awry.

Sam: West Virginia and Kentucky are two of my favorite states.and don't deserve to be called racist if they're as smart as I think they are, and gift their vote to Hillary Clinton.

I am not a racist either.... nor are most of those voters who are disenchanted with Obama. Frankly, I find this description as a distinction between Hillary supporters and Obama nayers... is a total turn off.

And if I were to describe B O in terms of color, the word would definitely be G R E E N!!!!

Kelly: I agree with you 100%. I've been a lifelong Democrat, but I'm disgusted with the actions of my party. Since when did the Democratic Party stand for rationalizing racism, disenfranchising millions of voters, and rampant sexism, all to shove Obama down our throats. I've already contact our local Republican Party and told them that if Hillary is not our candidate, they can count on me and my extended family to do everything in our power to assure the election of John McCain. Better a centrist Republican, than an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive and racist Obama.

The entire Clinton campaign was built on a pack of lies:
1) Sen. Clinton has more experience than Obama. Sleeping next the president? Being a lawyer for Wal-Mart? Being a US Senator for 8 years?
Obama's experience: Part time constitutional law instructor at Univ. Chicago 1993-2004. Illinois State Senate 1996-2004. US Senate (IL) 2004-present.
2) Hard-working white people don't like him. Not necessarily. They just like Clinton better.
3) Not ready for the presidency. Gosh, he has run a pretty good campaign, don't you think? Better than Sen. Clinton's.
4) Not tough enough. Here is a guy who is black and has a strange name, and who has to start campaigning in Iowa. Then, he has endured smear tactics from the Clintons and the Republicans. I'd say he's pretty tough.

I am sooooo tired of Clinton. Sen. Obama, please don't select Sen. Clinton as your running mate, but if you do, watch your back.

Yes, we can!

those who see fit to constantly put down Senator Clinton and her supporters, keep it up: your inevitable emotional breakdown when obama ultimately fails this year will be thanks enough for your disrespect and arrogance

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Obama’s so-called religion – black liberation theology.

would someone like to explain this argument that hillary is in a better position to win the general but obama isnt.If she is a better candidate why couldnt she win her own primary

Maryanne,

Are you kidding us? You are calling Obama underhanded and doublecross anyone that gets in his way? I think you forgot to substitute Obama for Hillary in your writing. Come on..have you missed how the Clinton's politically operate in the past 20 years? If you are not with them, you are against them and they make life very difficult for you. Why not do some research on Hillary...the fact that she is being sued in California for attempting to hide over $1,000,000 in soft money donations...the judge recently decided she does not need to trstify until after the November elections...what about Whitewater...what about her investment in Tyson Foods where she was advised by an insider of the company and turned a $2,000 investment into $120,000 in 12 months...what about her not bowing out of this race gracefully fully understanding she can not win and supporting the eventual nominee of the party. Come on Maryanne...it is people like yourself that scare the heeck out of me as a fellow democrat.

Hillary's out of money. Gameover.

Sally: That was a true statement about Obama. I was told about his dirty political moves regarding his run for the senate seat. I find him to be extremely underhanded and ability to double cross any one that gets in his way if he could. He has this young generation of college students fooled by his RFK speeches which he studied from a book given to him. For a college graduate he isn't that bright, but tricky and cunning. The white people should wake up to the fact that he doesn't like white people, he is only using them for their votes and they are so dumb they can't see thru him.

John McCain looks worn out. Where do you think he would lead you bitter Hillary supporters. Crossover and stay over. Change start in your head.

Sam: I think you have that wrong. Obama is the biggest racist of any candidate that ran for office in this country. Fact is, he doesn't like whites or blacks. He is using both races to get elected in office. He likes his own people, the Kenyans where he was born, brought to Hawaii by his mother and registered here but he is a citizen of Kenya also. Get a grip. People that are not racial do not attend a racist church with an anti-american pastor for 20 years unless they are racial themselves.

"OBAMA BACKERS MAKE THEIR THREAT" MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD?- Executive Intelligence Review - "Those who are attempting to shut down the Clinton campaign and control this Presidential election have no allegiance to Democratic Party, or to the United States."

The Democratic presidential nomination process is still in progress. Obama does not have the requisite number of delegates for the nomination; he has no presumptive lock on the nomination. All remaining states must vote and the superdelegates must select the most qualified presidential candidate using their indepedent judgment. Sen. Clinton is the most qualified presidential candidate and she must continue her fight for the future of America. All rational Democrats should contribute frequently to the Hillary Clinton Campaign

Sue: I am voting for that white women and if she doesn't get the nomination I will vote for that white man. This campaign is about race and it all started with Obama and Al Sharpton. Obama is not going to unite anyone because he can't. People have to unite with one another themselves but the public is falling for his false speech and you are too. Get a grip on life. The president doesn't unite races together. Where have you been. Besides that, let me remind you that Obama is not black or white he is Mulatto and that word is here to stay. You can't call a white/black man black when he isn't.

OBAMA: THE POLITICIAN OF “CHANGE”: Chicago Sun-Times—A close examination of Obama’s first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: Obama, who runs on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless, first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it. Alice Palmer, friend and mentor to Obama, served the district in the Illinois Senate for much of the 1990s. Decades earlier, she was a community organizer in the area when Obama was growing up in Hawaii. She risked her safe seat to run for Congress and touted Obama as a suitable successor. But when Palmer lost the congressional race, her supporters asked Obama to fold his campaign so she could easily retain her state Senate seat. Obama not only refused to step aside for the woman who was his friend and had recommended him for the seat, he filed challenges that nullified Palmer’s hastily gathered nominating petitions, forcing her to withdraw. Had Palmer survived the petition challenge, Obama would have faced the daunting task of taking on an incumbent senator. “He wondered if we should knock everybody off the ballot. How would that look?” said Ronald Davis, the paid Obama campaign consultant whom Obama referred to as his “guru of petitions.” Davis filed objections to all four of Obama’s Democratic rivals at the candidate’s behest. All other candidates were disposed of by Obama’s challenges. He then went on to win the election.

JD51: If you hate liars why are you voting for Obama then. Isn't Obama the one who said I didn't hear my pastor say those words when he was sitting in the pew? Of course he heard those words.Didn't Obama tell Geroge S. that he doesn't know Ayers that well when they live next door to each other in Hyde Park and both had dinner together plus Ayers donated to his campaign. Oh, the company he keeps. Rezko is a crook and Obama was an attorney for him. Who do you think bought Obama's house for him. I can't imagine how much cash Obama got from Rezko that was not reported to the IRS.

Barack's campaign manager Larry Sinclair advised his client to denounce these charges, once again proving that Larry Sinclair is an up and coming name in Washington circles.

this is just the latest reason why MILLIONS of Senator Clinton supporters will vote for her in November: either as Vice-President candidate or as Write-In Candidate

jbate: Yes, I forgot. After a 20 year attendance and relationship with his "mentor and spiritual adviser," Obama did denounce him once his relationship was exposed by the press. The sincerity of such a denunciation at that particular moment was truly moving and convincing to those whose minds are clouded by the messiah Kool-Aid. The rest of us saw it for what it really was; a much too late attempt to rehabilitate his image. You may wish to remain in the dark and blindly follow your messiah, but please don't fault the rest of us for our objectivity.

jbate: Yeah, Hagee is a pretty bad actor. It's a good thing that McCain is not a member of his church, and especially good that McCain would not be so stupid as to attend the church for 20 years and consider Hagee to be his "mentor and spiritual adviser." If he were that stupid, he would not deserve to be President of the United States.

jailbait: Why are you comparing Obama to Lincoln? Is it because some say that although he led the Union to victory over the South, he was racist?

Jettrout: You mean that you're not looking forward to 4 or 8 years of the race card being thrown at anyone who dares criticize the messiah? What's wrong with you :)

The Obama campaign has made it perfectly clear: Obama and his minions hate strong women, seniors, and democracy. Obama, who went to Ivy League schools, believes there are 57 States in the Union. He said so in his speech in Oregon just the other day. It's on tape. But that's not surprising; he stands for nothing and knows not a thing.

Obama is not the winner yet. Just remember that. Of course the comparison to Glen Closes character is sexist and obnoxious, but so is the media continuing to tell the same story over and over and that is the false story that Obama has it in the bag.

jailbait: I stand corrected. It appears that you at least understand law school examinations. That also means that you've been trained to "think like a lawyer." I suggest you do so, and research Obama, his past, and his affiliations, for if you do, you will likely change your mind about him. Another question. What is the name of the theology which Obama has been soaking up for 20 years?

rco: Your alleged ability to know what you simply cannot know (i.e. the political affiliation of every blogger on this article) is emblematic of Obama cultists in general. Hubristic, unreasonably self-assured, but sorely misinformed.

JD51, I agree with you. In spite of what the HIllary supporters think of us on these blogs, we are rational and have put a lot of thought into it. We are not kool-aid drinking fanatics wowed by his eloquent rhetoric. Obama will be a thoughtful and fine president, and he will be good for the country. I try not to let all these closet republican bloggers posing as democrats rile me up to much, because the eventual outcome is obvious.

Ok, Steve, have it your way, vote how you like. Sorry for upsetting you.

Edna, you're frustration is understandable. I apologize for upsetting you.

All that feministy stuff may be true, but them thar West Virginians and Kentuckians sure do appreciate a candidate what knows how to cook a good rabbit stew!

To john
It is Obama and the Media that has brought on the Hate and Divide not the Clintons. Right now the past (Clinton Years) look pretty danm good to me and sometimes you need to go back before you can go foreward. Obama is all talk and one hugh ? mark.

One point in my life I voted for her husband twice. Unfortunately I think he brought us George W. I am at a point as a 46 yr old white man we need a revolution. I only see Bill and Hillary as more of the same.

More hate and division. Which is evident on these comments from this page.

Steve Moore, you didn't address my question. I didn't ask why you favor Hillary over Obama. Tell me why you are against the 'GI BIll' and for continuing the war, and tax breaks for the wealthy, and a lack of a plan for the economy (recession-mortgage crisis!) like your buddy McCain? While you're at it, go ahead and explain to me why you don't want health care reform? You would vote for McCain even if you don't believe in his politics and policies? Please explain for all of us dems in as much detail as possible, unless you are a Republican, then no explanation is necessary.

Barack , out of pure respect for a fellow black Illinois state legislator, did not want to challenge a popular incumbent. He waited as long as he could, and then we she made her intentions public, he met with her, to make sure that she was indeed leaving office permanently, prior to initiating a costly campaign and drumming up the usual support among state leaders and donors. Palmer had assured Barack that she was vacating her seat, and said that she would enthusiasticly support his campaign, which she subsequently did. Then she got her butt spanked in the polls trying to run for higher office, and then came back and told Barack to step down, after he had invested his supporter's time, money, and energy into running for her vacated seat. Then she broke state election laws (actually with admitted and documented fraud) to re-enter the race late in the game, and was called on it by the Obama campaign, and then forced to withdraw from the process for re-election, to avoid further legal ramifications and unwanted attention. She remains bitter. She got spanked, she committed fraud, got caught, and crawled away embarrassed. End of story. No knock on Obama's campaign. Check your facts.

To rco
Bush scar tactics will not work. If Hillary is not the nominee than I and most others will vote for McCain. Good or Bad you know what you are getting with Hillary or McCain but Obama is one HUGE ? mark. That would be to big of a risk to take to vote for him.

None of you Hillary supporters is appalled that both McCain and Bush categorically do NOT support current legislation by Webb (Virginia) which would re-institute the 'GI Bill' for our nation's returning veterans, like we did for both WWII and Vietnam vets? You're going to vote for McCain anyway in the national election, despite his continued support for the war and tax breaks for the wealthy? Why? Because you are mad at Obama and his supporters? Explain to me why you are so incensed at the outcome of the democratic primary that you would support the Republican party and McCain's various objectionable positions. What am I missing?

To DC from NJ
THAT IS NOT CHANGE. That is young people voting on the HOPE of Change. Bush talked about change and a lot of people fell for it. It is only words. Obama needs to prove he can make the changes, Not just talk about changes. Obama at this time is a huge ? and no one knows what he can or will do.

It was Obama who made race an issue by the company he keeps and the mentors and spiritual advisers he has. It was Obama who made class an issue by the swipes he took at "bitter" "clinging" average Americans. It was Obama who made age an issue by saying that McCain "lost his bearings" code for he's off his rocker, too old, off his meds etc.And now it's Obama supporters making gender an issue -- Hillary is a fighter and a determined woman so she is like the stalker in Fatal Attraction. Tell you the truth I haven't seen a whole lot of unifying coming from Obama!!

One of the major things against Obama is his backers and the things they say. Go ahead, alienate those of us that voted for Clinton. Then don't be upset when we don't vote for Obama in Nov.

To DC from NJ
Obama only talks CHANGE. Bush talked during his bid for the white house about CHANGE and working together. Well guess where that got us. We need MORE than talk, what we need right now is a true fighter who will stand up for working class people and that's what Hillary is about. Don't talk about what you feel people want to hear but do something. Bill And Hillary have proven that they will fight for the working class, not just talk. The Clintons have a lot of problems just like ALL politicians but they have also proven that they can do alot for the working class. Everyone talks about not wanting the past but it seems to me that things were alot better 8 years ago. Bush was suppost to be the new change that everyone wanted, well if that is Change that I want no part of it.

Change we can believe in, i understand for sure,but yes we will is what i don't understand,does it mean yes we will pull out?

Sam: If I thought Hillary genuinely had the country's best interest at heart I could probably support her. The woman is so transparent. I've been following her long enough to know that she's a total phony. Be honest with yourself -- do you really be