Political Punch

It seems like a ton of nonsense in this comment thread. The three choices are the past, the same or the future. having lived through the past, I don't need to go back there and more of the same sounds stupid to me. Why waste the next four years fighting old battles with our best fighter? We probably won't get anywhere while we're fighting and the future we held back will arrive anyway. I myself think we should move forward now. Just my 2 cents, Peace

Hey Cohen, too late! We already know it was a "talking point" that you went along with. Wow, the Obama camp is full of old people with poor judgement. This is change?

alee25, we recognize it and because of that, we are helping others to see it too. My husband, friends and relatives have all changed from Obama at first, to Hillary. This is an example of the Obama strategy since the beginning and Jake was great enough to slip it in. Poor Jake, you know Obamas are going to rip him for it. To Danielle, it's okay, I am half black and I am so worried that most white non racists will become racists due to Obama's tactics. I know a lot of black people who do not support him precisely because of his race bating. He and all the supporters who rush to him (90% black) make us blacks seem petty and superficial. That's why none of them could state anything about him other than he's not old and so he's change. Many of us do think and make decisions without race as a qualifying factor.

Danielle made one of the best posts I've seen on here in six months.

for Obama supporters, it's all about your boy. You don't care about the democratic party at all.

you have ruined the chance for the demos to win this fall. you have divided the party.

thanks a lot you radicals, not only for another Republican president, but you have destroyed the Democratic party as we know it.

It is hard for me to acknowledge recent attitudes I am seeing in myself, they are foreign to me. I am a 48 year old white middle class educated white collar worker. I have hired many black people over whites in my management position, not because of skin color but because I thought they were the best candidate for the position. I have voted for black political candidates. I have had black friends who I shared holidays with. In other words I have always been color blind. But, yesterday I read Bob Herbert's column, and started thinking about comments from Obama supporters and prominent black commentators and politicians such Clyburn, Roland Martin's trashing of Hillary on a daily basis on CNN, Rep Lewis changing his vote from Hillary to Obama in SC because he felt pressured, then seeing a video of Sheila Jackson-Lee being booed by a group of blacks because she supports Hillary, now this black Senator from NJ getting behind Obama due to threats to his position by the black caucus, Jesse Jackson Jr, Obama's co-chair, and his racist remarks against Hillary and saying she didn't care about Katrina, that Bill Clinton needs to butt out and shouldn't be a part of the campaign supporting his wife, then there is Rev Wright and his black separatism and hate whitey remarks who Obama supported for 20 years until it started to hurt his campaign, on top of it all Michelle Obama's comments about not being proud of America in the past, her comments about there "ain't no blacks in Iowa," and her saying it is "our turn now," followed by him allowing his campaign to attack Hillary viciously while he tried to stay above it all and say he never attacked her, and then his campaign's four page press release to all the media outlets before SC trying to tarnish the Clinton's as racists which Obama denied until it was put in his face at a debate at which time he said in hindsight that was probably not a good thing to do while never offering an apology or elaborate on why he did it and I realized that I am starting to get an attitude towards black people that I never had in the past.

I don't think Obama is qualified for the position of President. I don't think he has enough experience. His resume is too thin. He never votes on politically sensitive or controversial issues lest he has to explain his position. But all along I thought that after a term in the Senate it may be a good time for him to run. Now I realize that I cannot vote for him no matter what, ever, he is too divisive. Not only did he forever lose my vote, but he has me questioning the ideals I always had in my life and my attitudes towards black people that I never harbored. He has pushed racial relations with his actions back more than 40 years, the actions of his campaign, and the actions of his supporters by calling everyone a racist for questioning him. It is sad that one man could do so much damage in the USA that took so many years to change.

BTW, don't try to tell us Obama doesn't realize he needs those white votes or else why would he be out drinking beers, which he hates, and bowling and all those other pandering things that he has been doing? Hillary was talking about demographics and Obama can't win in the general election without the people she is talking about. The people that voted for him in the primary are not enough to win him the WH.

I, and I know a lot of other people, are so sick of reading and hearing the Clinton's and those of us who criticize or do not support Obama being called racists. I am a white, educated white collar worker who does not think Obama has the experience to be President. My speaking out on that lack of experience, his short voting history and large voting history of just voting "present" so not to take a stand on politically sensitive or controversial issues is called unfair and racist. That his foreign policy experience is weak and that he has not held on meeting on Afghanistan despite being the Chair of that committee while he wants us to think he is all about taking care of the war in Afghanistan, if we bring it up we are racists. What has this world become if we cannot candidly criticize such actions of a candidate for the most coveted position in the world?

You Obama supporters do understand don't you that the General Election will not be just Democrats voting, that it will be all able to vote for either the candidate of the Republicans or the candidate of the Democrats and that Obama will need more than just those that voted for him in the primaries? That he will need Clinton supporters and that demographic of hard working white Americans that you all think she is being racist when talking about? Your comments that you are with us or you are a racist comments reminiscent of the Bush supporters and Obama has even less experience then him. Obama has a great speech of hope and change, but he offers no specifics on how he is going to do that. Don't tell me to read his policies, I have, they don't tell us how he plans to effect this change he is talking about. He is not even sure on which income level he is going to raise taxes on, it is above $90,000, then it is $200,000, then it is $250,000. But none of you Obama supporters are listening to that. He talks about long term plans, but not about how he is going to help people today when they need it.

I also find his wife's comments offensive, along with both of them trying to tell us how poor they grew up when in fact Michelle's father made more than $42,000 a year in the 1970s
(most families don't even make that today) supporting just two children and a wife while they lived in a nice community in the city near the University while she tries to imply she grew up in the slums. I am from a family of seven kids, growing up during the same period, my father didn't make that much and we never felt like we wanted for anything.

Then there is Obama and his I grew up with a single teen mother (she was 18 when he was born and she was married) on food stamps. Excuse us, she remarried when he was five, within two years of her and Obama's divorce to a VP of an Oil company. If she was on food stamps in those two years I find it odd her parents were not helping her out, but I guess she decided to go to school full time instead of working necessitating her to go on food stamps. Barack lived with his mother and new VP Step-Father until he decided at the age of 10 to move in with his grandparents. His grandmother being a VP at the Bank of Hawaii was not poor. She paid the majority of his education at the exclusive prep school
His mother eventually divorced her second husband, returned to Hawaii, obtained her Ph.D. and went back to Indonesia.

Actually, both of those issues represent quite a common theme in Obama and of his supporters. It is that the truth is twisted until it doesn't resemble reality and then we are told not to question it lest we be racist. Just like I have heard numerous time that he went to law school and then became a community organizer instead of working at full time as a lawyer, thus he is such a humanitarian. That is not true, he was a community organizer before he went to law school, after law school he went to work full time as an attorney. His $12,900 a year salary that he talks about during time as a Community Organizer was a lot more than he leads you to believe. It was actually quite a common income during the 1980s and not considered poverty level at all. Do you all realize that minimum wage was only $3.35 an hour during the 1980s thus he was making more than double that and costs were significantly lower. Gas was well under $1.00 a gallon, rents were typically under $200 a month. He tries to trick you into thinking that he was making that amount based on today's wages.

For those of you saying he got where he is on his own, that is a joke, he enlisted the help of Rev Wright whom he recently threw under the bus, of the Clinton's to get the coveted spot at the 2004 DNC Convention along with their help in getting his Senate seat. His first election to his part time job on the Illinois Senate he sued to get everyone off the ballot so he could run unopposed. His run for the US Senate he had an opponent, but surprisingly that candidates divorce papers from years past came out of no where hurting his ex-wife and children causing him to leave the campaign so once again Obama ran unopposed. Don't tell me that was unplanned. Now he runs for the first time with opposition and no one wants us to question him or any of his associates or actions from the past or we are racists. We are not supposed to judge his character or we are racists. We are not supposed to comment on his 20 year relationship with a Black separatist church or we are racists.

Hillary is his opponent in the primary race, it is not her position to prop him up or give him kudos's. It is her right and responsibility to prop herself up and bring out his faults the same as it is his about her. Why are people forgetting that? Her campaign didn't accuse him of killing someone like his campaign tried to push that she was responsible for the death of Benazir Bhutto. His campaign has been attacking her without hesitation since way before Iowa.

Hillary is the best choice for President of the US. You can call her and Bill racists, but it is not true and you all know that. You can say that made this contest was made about race because of their comments, but you know that is not true. It was Obama's campaign that sent out a four page press release bringing racism into the primary to all the press outlets before the SC vote and then denied it until it was put into Obama's face, then he said in hindsight that was probably not a good thing to do in one of the debates. But he did not say he was sorry or elaborate on it. Obama's campaign is the one that made this campaign about race, not the Clinton's. The Clinton's have fought for equality all their lives and to dismiss them with the slander that is now being done is a travesty. Bottom line, Obama won't win in a General Election, he, his campaign and his supporters have alienated too many of the people they would need to vote for him with their lies and trash talk.

We will remember this in the voting booth

Kael's la-ti-da latte sipping analysis reads like bull poop to this cowgirl. Alex Forrest is about seeing feminists as witches? Heck, no! I'd say it's about not seeing women at all. Alex is a crazy, touched in the head kind of lady who is as desperate as a hungry hornet. She's no more a feminist than HRC is a sissy. She's not a real woman period. She's just a pathetic, male chauvinist pigment of some fool's imagination. BTW, JTP, it would be nice if you'd lay low on that misogyny you lasso towards HRC. Afterall, it's Mother's Day.

Steve Cohen should apologize immediately to Senator Clinton for making such a sexist and divisive comment. He is alienating Clinton supporters even further by such utterances.

The only racist people in this nomination process are Obama and his ilk who have stoked the race card for all its worth and then scream foul if anyone criticizes them. Is that what it's going to be like should he get the Presidency? For the Obamaites who keep parroting each other, please go to the source and do your own analysis - you are being hoodwinked and bamboozled.

CharleyChaplin: I sympathize with your comment. It would be the answer to a dream to have a third party with Hillary at the helm. I fear, however, that she is too loyal to the Democratic Party to attempt such a thing. For me, then the issue becomes doing everything possible to stop Obama. That's why, come November, if Obama is the Democratic candidate, I and my family (and every other Democrat I've spoken to, by the way) will do everything in our power to assist in the election of John McCain. Better a centrist Republican, than an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, and racist Obama.

Hillary Clinton running strong everywhere! Now, Obama folks are running scared having manipulated many a caucus with small groups of zealots. Obama has not won a single battle ground state! He’s been propped up by the big media for so long; the plan was to rid of Hillary Clinton, because she was the stronger candidate. She's still running strong. She's 43 points over Obama in WV. Obama was mouthing "change" but he has always been the darling of big media and the corporate candidate. But the people in this country are behind Sen. Hillary Clinton all the way! Look, conservative political writers David Brooks, William Kristol, Robert Novak and others who were promoting and pulling for Obama and condemned Hillary Clinton are now turning back to McCain. All that was a big media ploy to defeat Hillary Clinton and but these guys are just about ready to poke a big hole in Obama’s presedential balloon!

Sen. Hillary Clinton should run as an independent candidate for president in the fall--I bet she can defeat both Obama and McCain. This would be like Sen. Joe Lieberman who lost in the democratic primary, but won in the general election! She could also get 80 million in public financing. Bill Clinton won a three-way race in’92, remember? Dump the creeps in the corrupt DNC!
Let’s hope and pray for Independent Hillary for 08!

(lol) This stuff is hilarious.

to Jack - if You are devided, do not extend it to entire Party. You personally is NOT a party and Obama is Honest, Respactable MAN. Only low-minded can take this desire of the majority of populations as a race of race.
Think, it does not hurt.

We are TIRED of this
make up" ir-rial image.
She is really Monster and the feelings discribed here are real for her. And it is already in physical sense - Stomch can not stand this Impudent, Rude, vulgar wonab, who absolutely lost female charm, but left FALSE all over and ugly image of Whimsical chils:"Give me that, cause I want it!"

It a shame to watch, how entire country is dancing to pleasse her and to play this game.

TIRED.

She was named here exactly what she is, in pretty soft manner.

Time to tell her that.

this is what the Dnc has been reduced to. Its no different then the GOP. How ridiculous.

Poster hip wrote: "John Mccain and Hillary are actually friends. John Mccain was quoted as having said Hillary would make a fantastic president. Hillary Clinton said she considered John Mccain to be one of her best friends. For a moderate like myself McCain is a great option over the far left racist Obama."

Maybe McCain was thinking of Hillary as his VP since Hillary will probably switch party out of her anger of being deserted by her friends (superdelegates) and bashed by her own party.

I think its funny some of the Obama supporters don't think the Hillary supporters will vote McCain in November. WATCH AND LEARN!

In 76 years we Democrats have only elected 3 Presidents. We have never elected a Liberal Leftist. We ran Kerry,lost,we ran Dukakis,lost,Kennedy campaigned against Carter but lost at the convention. Obama is #1 Leftest of all Senators in 2007. We have to win this election with Hillary Clinton. Since 1492 we have never elected a women leader, yet we watch Women lead nations all over the world. We preach to other countries to give equal rights to women ,yet we do not. The black man won the right to vote in 1870 while the black and white women waited another 50 years.On Aug. 26, 1920, the 19th Amendment granted the ballot to American women. We wait another 68 years and this August it is time we at last see if a women can do a better job than George Bush. Thanks to him our job will be a piece of cake.
Regards, Make the U.S. Proud Hillary 08

Mcain has a tremendous amount of respect in Washinton. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't all just a backroom deal to let him have 4 years.

At least the republicans haven't bashed me for being a woman. Hillary or McCain 2008