Political Punch

I personally don't think Obama can win the GE with the Electoral College. The majority of the states he has taken in the primary will go Republican and the important swing states will have moderate independents throw the election to the Republicans too. Obama is too far left for many and they will choose McCain, known to at least be a Republican who does not always vote the party line in the Senate. I am disappointed that as a Democrat I will have to endure another four years of Republican executive leadership. I'll be campaigning hard for the Democratic candidates for House and Senate in my state in the hopes that we at least can keep a balance of power to keep stupid policies to a minimum.

I personally don't think Obama can win the GE with the Electoral College. The majority of the states he has taken in the primary will go Republican and the important swing states will have moderate independents throw the election to the Republicans too. Obama is too far left for many and they will choose McCain, known to at least be a Republican who does not always vote the party line in the Senate. I am disappointed that as a Democrat I will have to endure another four years of Republican executive leadership. I'll be campaigning hard for the Democratic candidates for House and Senate in my state in the hopes that we at least can keep a balance of power to keep stupid policies to a minimum.

Janice and fondh,

I attended the Democratic Convention in Reno NV. Hundreds of Hillary delegates were disenfranchised and not allowed to be seated. The Excuses: They were not on the computer print outs at registration time. When 2 days earlier they were on the computer print outs go figure. 98% of the people who hold office in DNC in Nevada and 100% percent of the credential committee were Obama supporters. Hundreds of Delegates were promised bus transportation from Las Vegas. At the last minute the Obama people in charge of getting transportation on those busses for Obama delegates and Hillary delegates claimed to get a better deal with the airlines at the last minute and didn't bother informing the Hillary delegates and alternate delegates. They also missed a few of the Obama delegates not very many though. As a reporter when I submitted this infomation to my paper it was edited out because my editor is an Obama supporter. The Hillary campaign is aware of the problems in Nevada and many other caucus states I have covered. At this late stage in the game the cheating the Obama campaign has been doing is really a mute point unless you have integrity and believe in principles as I do. I strongly dislike cheating of any kind. I'm sure not all of the Obama supporters are cheaters. All of the Nevada Obama Delegates and alternate delegates "Received Money" to attend the convention from the Obama campaign. None of the Hillary delegates or alternate delegates received any money from the Hillary campaign. Just proves that Obama who has the money can buy the election, the pledged delegates and the super-delegates.

The reckoning is coming for Republicans.....
They are not ready to govern and honestly they will never be ready.

They have too many flaws, too many mistakes, too many bad issues and too many don't knows. Too bad the Republicans are heading to another Illinois,Louisiana and Mississippi soap opera..Republicans just never learned...What else can i say?!!

The reckoning is coming for OBAMA.....
He is not ready to be a President and honestly he will never be ready to be..
He has too many flaws, too many mistakes, too many bad issues and too many don't knows. Too bad the democrats are heading to another GORE and KERRY soap opera..Democrats just never learned...What else can i say?!!

ABC still sucks. The boycott remains.

If having lobbyists run your campaign is less fearful to you than being friendly with someone like Ayres, no matter how personal the relationship you deserve the same kind of mismanaged goverment you've got.

Gimme a break. The lobbyists were patsies for our good friends in Saudi Arabia and Myanmar.

Every time I go to a gas station I'm being victimized by Domestic Terrorism far worse than anything Ayres could ever have possibly dreamed!

Jeremy: Please look up The Weathermen or The Weather Underground. You can read all about William Ayers. Some of us remember them and their terrorist activities in the 60's and 70's. Please check the association with him and Obama in the last 10 years. Way more than "sorta knew and friendly with." The Republicans are going to have a field day.

Dear Really? Did you also know that Republican fundraisers raised $100 million for Obama in 2007 to try to knock off Hillary Clinton? Do you think they regret that now?

Obama STOP using Fear tactics !!

Lobbying includes all attempts to influence legislators and officials, whether by other legislators, constituents or organized groups. Governments often define and regulate organized group lobbying.

So the Dems do not constituents to determine policy, they think the People work for the Government not the Government for the People!!

McCain may have Lobbyist working on his campaign but he never took from them, on the other hand Obama get a million dollar house from one!! Obama funeeled 1 million dollars to his wife over 4 five years (1 million tax payers money to hospital his wife worked for and then his wife got a 250,000 dollar raise).

Obama talks with a terrorist to organize his campaign!

Yes Obama you are above politics!!

That's the best McCain could come up with? Some guy that Obama sort of knew and was friendly with? Weak.

McCain needs to deal with his lobbyist problems not deflect and distract. It is really dishonorable to not confront one's issues directly. When I read McCain's health plan to raise taxes on employer health benefits and mail the proceeds directly to insurers I'm not surprised by his extensive lobbyist ties. That's the kind of thing only an industry lobbyist could come up with. I guess we know who McCain's "friends" are. . . Lobbyists.

I'd rather have a candidate with an advisor who's a lobbyist than one with an advisor who's talking secretly with Hamas.

McCain can't get out of bed without tripping over a lobbyist. Ayers has never been on Obama's campaign staff..and it certainly does not rise to the level of McCain's incestous relationship with the lobbyists.

Lezident....

But isn't he right? Obesity is an epidemic in this country, we need to buy smaller cars to reduce consumption, smaller homes, eat better, exercise more. Why do people find common sense so offensive?

Wherever this ends, August or November, it will be Obama's arrogance that defeats him. He believe's his own hype machine and nothing is more dangerous in a man of public prominence. Making threats on GMA this morning regards his wife is ample evidence of the instability of his character and his inexperience.

It's going to be McCain if not Clinton. Don't believe the 'swooning' media support will continue once his numbers and ability to feed the media millions drop.

But the entertainment value is enormous.

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

Says a lot about his world view....and view of the US and its people.

Obama is not who he says he is.

Clinton ran a horrible campaign, this nomination was hers to lose and she did. The press was fawing over her last year. She was up 40% in the polls and had raised $100 million in 2007. She ignored small states, she ignored caucus states. She had bad advise and she took it. She insulated herself with faithful friends who weren't qualified to run a national campaign. They are now over $20 million in debt (some say it's more like $35 mill, we will find out this week). So tell me, it you can't hire the right people, take good advice, listen to people, or manage a budget, what gives you the right to run our country?? Because she "deserves it"? WHY?

and welcome back jake,

and tell your sub just because we are glad you are back, does not mean we do not like him.we liked him, we really liked him.
or what i meant to say is..oh well

stay tuned, i will be giving a speech about it soon.

sorry think,
i just read a new post of yours, there must be two people using the name of think. and the other think (is still on the obama grog)

to the think who said obama is just like a snake-oil salesman-I agree with you.

think is not thinking again,

How can obama become POTUS without

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typical white people
the clinton supporters
the rural clinging to guns and god crowd
sweeties
obama supporters coming off the obama-grog
i listened to the second 30min of cspan this am. over 50% of the calls were people saying things such as-if sen. clinton is not on the ticket-will vote for mccain.
and what was encouraging to me there were several black men who called in.
and a couple of 80year olds.
it maybe late in the day but this country
might still have a chance of recovery after the bush years-but that will only
happen if sen. clinton wins.
obama will not be potus.
he and his handlers went about it the wrong way.
a real fact is if people had known jan. what is known now about obama-he would not be in the lead.
people were not even paying attention to the issues then-they were voting based on sen. clintons neg and knowing zero about obama. and assumed obama must be better that sen. clinton.
now people have gotten to really know a lot more about sen. clinton-her negs. have gone down. and they know a lot more about obama-and his negs. have gone up. and all the while sen. clinton is and has stayed strong on being able to plainly tell people what she will do about the issues that face us. sen clinton has consistently laid out her plan first about what she will do. she is the one who has been driving the issues conversation-(the signs of a true leader) how? when sen. clinton started with the 3am ad-(and people made fun of it, etc.BUT it got us talking about national security, when before her 3am ad. we were not talking about it. now why do i say obama only copies-prime example-instead of coming back with some other catchy ad-to explain his point.-what did we get sen.clintons 3am ad regurgated.
when sen. clinton talks about healthcare the national conversation changes again. she is the true leader here.
because obama is such an unknown and the media has not done its job, obama has spent much of his time explaining and making excuses.
when sen. clinton gives a speech or talk whatever you want to call it-we all learn something new.
when obama gives a speech-i have listened to him-he spends most of the time telling you what you already know
and then he starts talking about what his opponents have said about him-which you already known.
so, no wonder you have so many people still asking-(in the spirit of w. mondale) WHERE IS THE BEEF?

OBAMA WILL NOT BE PRESIDENT because
OBAMA SHOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT.

Obama frequently twists the words of others in his mocking, arrogant monologues, so why shouldn't he expect the same? The only people who think Israel provides an excuse for militant jihadists are people like Obama. It appears that he does not know the difference between good and evil. Like Wright with his chickens coming home to roost, Obama suggests that there is an excuse for militant islam. He is an apologist for those whose views are morally abhorrent. He sees all sides and takes none. Does he truly know the difference between good and evil, right and wrong or are all views one vast and morally equivalent continuum from his perspective?

How anyone can honestly believe Obama is a change from the same old political games is beyond me. He said his association with Rezko was a 'dumb' decision, that he didn't know Wright was a rascist, that he wasn't putting down small town workers, that he wants a bipartisan administration.He was voted "Most Liberal Senator" title last year, he wants gun controls, made a deal with Rezko even while knowing Rezko was under investigation for corruption,lied about not knowing Wright's agenda, and told a liberal San Francisco audience what they wanted to hear about rural 'hicks'. He told Judicial Watch he had no records from his term in the Illinois legislature and is using a Madison Avenue slogan 'Change We Can believe In' to try to get in the White House. He comes from a wealthy Hawaiian family even though he tries to portray himself as one of the downtrodden. 100 years ago he would have been called a snake oil salesman.

How could we have a president who's friendly and has political and business ties to known, unabashed domestic terrorists.

If the nominee's not Clinton, then vote McCain.

Obama is not who he says he is.

Barry can not afford to play "who were you with"? Now you are ALMOST against...playing the flip flopper!

Barry will come out of this battered and bruised.
John McCain is such a better warrior.

Go get him John, that pussycat Barry BO can't take a fruitpunch. I think I saw him crying and whining AGAIN!!

So Obama won't meet with Hamas but one of his Advisors Will?

The Times on Line
May 10, 2008
Barack Obama sacks adviser over talks with Hamas
Times on Line
One of Barack Obama’s Middle East policy advisers disclosed yesterday that he had held meetings with the militant Palestinian group Hamas – prompting the likely Democratic nominee to sever all links with him.
Robert Malley told The Times that he had been in regular contact with Hamas, which controls Gaza and is listed by the US State Department as a terrorist organisation. Such talks, he stressed, were related to his work for a conflict resolution think-tank and had no connection with his position on Mr Obama’s Middle East advisory council.
“I’ve never hidden the fact that in my job with the International Crisis Group I meet all kinds of people,” he added.
Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for Mr Obama, responded swiftly: “Rob Malley has, like hundreds of other experts, provided informal advice to the campaign in the past. He has no formal role in the campaign and he will not play any role in the future.” The rapid departure of Mr Malley followed 48 hours of heated clashes between John McCain, the Republican nominee-elect, and Mr Obama over Middle East policy.

Mr Obama, who has been trying to assuage suspicion towards him among the influential Jewish and pro-Israel lobby, spoke at a Washington reception marking the 60th anniversary of Israeli independence on Thursday when he promised that his commitment to the country’s security would be “unshakeable”. However, Mr McCain has high-lighted the Democrat’s pledge to negotiate directly with nations such as Iran – whose leaders talk of wiping Israel off the map – and a statement from Hamas saying that it hoped that Mr Obama would win the presidency.
This was denounced as an offensive smear by Mr Obama, who repeated earlier statements saying that Hamas was “a terrorist organisation [and] we should not negotiate with them unless they recognise Israel, renounce violence”.
He went on to suggest that Mr McCain’s attack showed that he was “losing his bearings”. This remark triggered a furious reaction from Mark Salter, the Republican’s senior adviser, who said that Mr Obama was “intentionally raising John McCain’s age as an issue” – a claim the Democrat vehemently denied. The intensity of this dispute reflects both Mr Obama’s desire to move beyond his battle with Hillary Clinton and how Republicans are already beginning to train their sights on him.
The Republican National Committee has amassed a 1,000-page dossier on Mr Obama, with researchers spending weeks in Chicago seeking fresh material. He is already being criticised for his links with Rashid Khalidi, a Columbia University professor who has branded Israel an “apartheid system in creation”.
Mr Malley, a respected commentator on Middle Eastern issues and part of President Clinton’s negotiating team at the Camp David talks, has come under attack in recent months from right-wing bloggers. Yesterday, asked if Obama campaign was aware of his contact with Hamas, he said: “They know who I am but I don’t think they vet everyone in a group of informal advisers.”
Randy Scheunemann, Mr McCain’s foreign policy chief, suggested that Mr Malley was part of an emerging pattern in which other advisers had been repudiated after throwing confusion over policies on trade and Iraq. “Perhaps because of his inexperience Senator Obama surrounds himself with advisers that contradict his stated policies,” he said.

poster: "...republican reduced to masquerading as a Hillary supporter to promote division in democratic ranks. It won't work, the republicans have screwed over all too many demographics of this country..."

It amazes me that you Dems are so steeped in identity politics. It may cost you the Whitehouse. Your so-called "demographics" is a neat code for women, blacks, working class whites and Latinos.

Once Obama clinches the nomination, he will have to contend with the "sweetie" vote... the "bitter, gun toting religeous" white vote and the virtually ignored Latino vote.

You Dems have been playin these "demographics" against each other for so long now... what will you do when your candidate is seen as the candidate of only one of those groups? Will the other groups believe him when he says "I'm one of you"?

Or...

Trot out Bill Richardson to stump for the Latino vote? Que es Bill Richarsdon? He wasn't even recognized as Hispanic in CA or AZ. Many Hispanics are already thinking that he'll go for a hard immigration stance to blunt McCain and to get the "working class vote".

Trot out Hillary to get the women's vote? Women will just see the "old boys" network makin' sure that women are in their place. And all his "present" votes when it came to vote on women's issues will haunt him.

It will be an interesting tightrope walk... with angry "demographics" ready to turn on him should he fall.

hi everyone..go hillary.....obama is nothing but a hypocrite. and his wife the anti american michelle has to look in the mirror every day and say over and over .....i love america, i love america, i love america. man, just think, if obama takes office, him and the rev wright will be buds again. and then there is ayers, rattso and the rest. think about it

Anyone actually take the time to research for yourself about the SDS, the Weathermen and Ayers' life since? Start with Wikipedia, go from there and you will clearly understand what spin is. Classic case from McCain and Clinton (and media editorialists). Classic oldtime election tactics we all must use education to be able to normalize if not outright ignore.

He who has the gold makes the rules...McCain will run out money...he will be a flash in the pan...he suffer from dementia and desperation....case closed...his attacks....YAWN......

Kravitz - you really shouldnt post stuff from Daily Kos. Unlike other sites like ABC and Politico, Daily Kos bans people who speak out against Obama. I have seen it over and over and over again. Any site that flushes out dissent is not trustworthy. Period.

Let McCain attack Obama for Ayres or Rev Wright, Because McCain has Rev Jerry Falwell said America had 9/11 coming because we tolerated gays, feminists and liberals. It was our fault. Our chickens had come home to roost, if you will. John McCain proudly received his support and even spoke at his university's commencement.

Reverend John Hagee has called the Catholic Church the "Great Whore." He has said that the Anti-Christ will rise out of the European Union (of course, the Anti-Christ will also be Jewish). He has said all Muslims are trained to kill and will be part of the devil's army when Armageddon comes (which he hopes is soon). John McCain continues to say he is proud of Reverend Hagee's endorsement.
Reverend Rod Parsley believes America was founded to destroy Islam. Since this is such an outlandish claim, I have to add for the record, that he is not kidding. Reverend Parsley says Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" brought down from a "demon spirit." Of course, we are in a war against all Muslims, including presumably Muslim-Americans. Buts since Parsley believes this is a Christian nation and that it should be run as a theocracy, he is not very concerned what Muslim-Americans think.

John McCain says Reverend Rod Parsley is his "spiritual guide

McCain must know that when he starts slinging mud, that probably more dirt will thrown on him.

What happened to the McCain campaign of civility?

Obama 08

Carlasue -- things always come out in campaigns. That was one of Clinton's arguments early on. Her "dirt" is already out there....his just keeps coming. There's more on the way...trust.

You socialists are the most stupid people I have ever encountered (trolls). If you love having over half your income sucked into the pork politics of the dems, faboo. Fork over the rest of it while you're at it and pay my share too since you're so eager for "change".

If your collective IQ dropped a point, you'd be a pile of goat $hit.

PS - ABC reeks.

Posted by: skeptic | May 19, 2008 2:50:31 AM

You are obviously too preoccupied with the Dems to realize how much money bush's Iraq war is costing this country. Thousands of lives and billions in cost and debt to china and others. Btw the Iraq war is the republican tax that we will be paying for years to come in high fuel, food, U.S. debt etc.

Obama has become totally predictable. Opponent points at Obama corruption - Obama says Washington as usual. Opponent points at Obama hypocrisy with Wright - Obama says my grandmother was the rascist - Opponent points at Obama's naivete and stupidity when it comes to foreign affairs - Obama says I spoke out agains the war before I voted and voted and voted and voted and voted for it - so I'd love to have that debate.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 19, 2008 12:35:42 AM

Your tactic was tried and failed in the recent election in missisippi. So give it a break.

Senator Clinton now has 256 electoral votes. Senator Obama has 217 electoral votes. If Michigan and Florida were counted, Senator Clinton has 270 electoral votes. This was confirmed on several electoral sites tonight.
So, I ask, who is ahead?

Posted by: Mary | May 19, 2008 2:37:27 AM

Save the electoral argument for the GE since none are won in the primaries.

If the DNC and the Obama camp think Democrats will "come home" en masse to vote for Obama, they are very sadly mistaken. I live in Alabama and let me tell you, he is in for a rude awakening if he and his fans think his primary "win" here will mean a hill of beans in the general election. Obama will not carry a single state in the Old South. And don't trust any "polls" that say otherwise.

Senator Clinton now has 256 electoral votes. Senator Obama has 217 electoral votes. If Michigan and Florida were counted, Senator Clinton has 270 electoral votes. This was confirmed on several electoral sites tonight.
So, I ask, who is ahead?

I want to correct this notion that some bloggers have on here that if a Clinton supporter says they won't vote Obama if he is the nominee, that they are Republicans masquerading as Democrats.
There are many people who vote the party line all the time and their are many people who vote the candidate.
I identify myself as a Democrat because I have predominantly voted Democrat over the years. If on the ballot I have two candidates to choose from that I am not all that familiar with I always vote Democrat. In fact I would have to say in the local and State elections it is rare that I wouldn't vote for a Democrat. Having said that, over the years I have on occasion voted Republican and have certainly voted 3rd party on a number of occasions. If I am not happy with the candidate of my identified party then I will not vote for them. Many will, but I choose to be not quite as dogmatic about party affiliation as others may be. For those of you under 25, perhaps you just haven't had the opportunity to vote as many times yet to have encountered situations where you would potentially consider voting for someone other than a Democrat. When I have jumped ship or voted 3rd candidate it has almost always been a candidate I see as more centrist/moderate. While my views probably fit more into the far left than the right, I have a healthy disdain for both the far left and right . Right now I see the Democratic party as being hijacked by the far left, again. I don't necessarily feel Obama is far left but right now I am totally turned off by the Democratic party for a variety of reasons. The Dems have reason to be concerned because I have no doubt there are many out there like myself who see McCain as a centrist/moderate and do not see McCain as George W. I am not entirely comfortable with McCain but there is just something that rubs me the wrong way about Obama and more importantly I am not impressed by his record nor his experience and/or lack of. I am college educated and race is not the issue for me because I have voted for black candidates within my own State when the opportunity has been there and I did not support Clinton because she was female. I am not a blue collar voter but I grew up in a blue collar family and my sensibilities lie there which is in part why I support Clinton and why I have a difficult time supporting Obama. His lofty rhetoric and his telling us everything wrong about the other candidates positions and yet never telling us what he would do other than in the most lofty or general of ways, just doesn't cut it. I don't think we still have a really good sense of who he is, what he stands for and what he would fight for, at least I don't and judging from some of his supporters I don't get the impression they care that much rather they project on him all this other stuff. I like Obama's message of change coming from the bottom up but when he gives this message he's not advocating that young people go out and stand on their convictions around issues that concern them but rather that they support him and he will implement that change but he needs them to elect him to do so. I believe that change does come from the bottom up and we've seen it in women's rights, civil rights, gay rights, protesting the Vietnam war and so on but the focus has been on an issue of concern that a collective of like-minded people had the courage of conviction to stand up and fight for it at times with great risk. It was not about voting a Republican or Democrat into office. I suppose the closest we've seen and that was McGovern and look what happened with that. So I don't trust Obama's message of hope and change because it's about him. I don't trust his new politics because he's old politics but who has learned to use the new resources at hand, such as internet communities, in a manner old politics hasn't.

The thing about HRC and JSM is that we them and their history.

In the final analysis, when push comes to shove for this country we know they will do the right thing.

The same is true for many others Biden, Hagle, Paul, Dodd, Edwards, etc., on both sides of the aisle. I would be comfortable voting for any of them.

I know nothing about Obama except a couple of self-adulating books and a web page. Anyone can write a vanity book, and anyone can create a false web page.
He has no visible public history, he destroyed all papers relating to his Il. legislative record.

Never ever would vote for the mirage called Obama.

The Republicans' primary problem is that the American people have figured out that their tactics of "divide and conquer"...of sowing dissension and fear...are all meant to distract America so that America's middle class and poor don't notice as the Republicans - and their puppetmasters - steal from their pocketbooks, plunder the nation's treasury and destroy the future of their children.

Pretty simple, the Republicans do not wish to lead America - they wish to prey upon it.

This whole campaign with all 3 candidates is the biggest circus sideshow I've ever seen. I will NOT vote for any of them. My bumper sticker will say "Don't blame me, I did'nt vote !"

"Once emotions and tempers are calmed, Hillary supporters will come around and vote Obama."
"So you want us to reward the republicans for ruining Amerca by staying home or voting for McCain? Sure that's the smart thing to do!" LG and Vanessa, We will rise up and fight against disgustingly bigoted and insulting Obama supporters like you!!! Equality means fighting for everyone's rights and not resorting to the sick bigoted, condescending remarks of Obama Supporters!! How could you subject children to 20 years of sick racist sermons like Obama did in his church? I would never allow children to hear these disgusting, bigoted remarks from scare mongering, hate mongering Obama supporters like you!!! It's time to rise up and fight against this harassment from bigoted Obama supporters!! NO MEANS NO!!!

Posted by: former dem in chicago | May 19, 2008 1:05:40 AM

You were never a democrat if you advocate voting republican after 8 years of bush. Btw Illinois will go for Obama but of course you knew that didn't you?

Obama has a long history with Rezko as the main link in the chain with satisfying special interests and lobbyists. Ayers is not a "guilt by association" problem, he is a guy that helped Obama along the way because they share the same political views....far left...radical....corrupt IL style liberal ...Black Power...same type of politics and rhetoric.

No one tells the story of Alice Palmer...she was one of the first women that Obama threw under the bus to get her Senate seat. Obama's first mentor and the women who tried to help him get into Chicago Politics. They say that she was out campaginging with the Clintons...no one tells that story either.

Obama has pretty much hidden his documents and been careful about his positions.He used the "present " vote wisely..his agenda has always been the Presidency...Every Board he served on he asked to be in charge of...He went to the power guy in IL and got everyones legislation in his name...He went to Kennedy and asked him to mentor him...He got the money to run his campaigns and his house form Rezko the crook...It is really ridiculous.

No lobbyists to contribute to the Presidetnial run has been a very successful campaign strategy...it is a strategy not a reflection of Obama's career at all.

BR, feel free to vote for your appeasing McCain who voted to allow the bombing of abortion clinics. And is connected to the murder of a guy who was reporting on them, by way of association. And it seems you will feel very good about doing so.

"Once emotions and tempers are calmed, Hillary supporters will come around and vote Obama."
"So you want us to reward the republicans for ruining Amerca by staying home or voting for McCain? Sure that's the smart thing to do!" LG and Vanessa, We will rise up and fight against disgustingly bigoted and insulting Obama supporters like you!!! Equality means fighting for everyone's rights and not resorting to the sick bigoted, condescending remarks of Obama Supporters!! How could you subject children to 20 years of sick racist sermons like Obama did in his church? I would never allow children to hear these disgusting, bigoted remarks from scare mongering, hate mongering Obama supporters like you!!! It's time to rise up and fight against this harassment from bigoted Obama supporters!! NO MEANS NO!!!

John McCain is a war hero and a patriot.
I'm a Clinton supporter, but I will vote for McCain if she is not the nominee. Obamanuts don't seem to realize that he was Kerry's first choice for VP in 2004. I am getting to
like the idea of a Republicam POTUS with aa Democrat Congress. The checks and balance may keep us safe from the corruption of both parties.

Obama has become totally predictable. Opponent points at Obama corruption - Obama says Washington as usual. Opponent points at Obama hypocrisy with Wright - Obama says my grandmother was the rascist - Opponent points at Obama's naivete and stupidity when it comes to foreign affairs - Obama says I spoke out agains the war before I voted and voted and voted and voted and voted for it - so I'd love to have that debate.
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AARP has a lobbying arm, environmental grops have them... even many church denominations have them. So what's the big deal?

If you go to your local pol and say that if you vote for this bill I will not vote for you - it may have little impact unless you go as a group. Lobbyists represent groups... all sorts of them (pro/anti gun, pro/anti abortion, minority interests, seniors, industrial/business interests, unions, etc. That's what they do. Even the Armed forces have "liaisons" which are like lobbyists.

I's only wrong when lobbyists change a pol's mind or vote by using monitary or other illegal influences.

What's the alternative? Polling? Shall each pol not think independently and hire Zogby to find out how he/she should vote?

Again, McCain is not too old. He's just the wrong old guy to run the country. His lobbyists know that. That's why they'll run it for him. All he has to do is be able to sign his name.

And oh. Nice Kos post 9/518073 on McCain opposing a bill that would protect abortion clinics from bombings. You see, there's a guy named Don Bolles, murdered by the Arizona mob. Connected to Cindy McCain by way of her father and his mob ties.

I had always been opposed to lobbyists. For the past three years I have been a Board member of a professional, non-profit group. We were very much wooed by unions hoping we would affiliate. Their main pitch to us is that they have hundreds of paid lobbyists!!! That is primarily what they talked about. So funny to see Obama who is so opposed to lobbyists then turn around and seek and accept the support and endorsement of unions. Where does he think the lion's share of union dues go?

As it turned out we did not affiliate with any union. We found them to be heavy handed and did not want to loose our autonomy as professionals. The organization was just too new. Instead, we hired our own lobbyist. It has been the best investment we ever made. The lobbyist is our eyes and ears at the legislature and really knows what bills, if any, would impact our professional lives. He also, of course, has opened doors for us as to meetings and hearings we could not obtain on our own.

Upshot, you cannot paint all lobbyists with such a broad brush. Most are true professionals and have a developed expertise. As I said, we are a professional organization and we did try to go it alone. We found that we were spinning our wheels showing up at sessions that were totally unrelated to our interests and through our ineptitude probably causing more damage than anything else.

McCain does not seem to know what everyone else knows, his campaign is completely run and funded by lobbyist.

All politicians have connections with, and in some cases, long standing relationships with paid lobbyists. Unless there is evidence that the relationship affects the public in a negative fashion, it should not be an issue. Raising the spector of misconduct, where none exists, is dishonorable.

McCain will be president of 50 States... Obama can have the 7 left over. Perhaps BO lost his bearings when he said that.

Obama likes to say one thing and then define it later on... remember NAFTA? He now is "nuancing" his previous stance on lobbyists.

This past weekend Obama hammered McCain on a supposed flip-flop on dealing with Hamas... which was a bald-faced lie from the reporter. Check you facts next time... befor you use faulty info then whine that the press is giving McCain a pass... if that's not the pot calling the kettle... well nevermind.

How's that for having the "claws come out", "sweetie"!

It's time to take a scrutiny of BO's career before the consideration of him for the top post in the country.

His scandals in his short career of being a national senator tells us that he is dangerously obscure. There are lots of things undercover that the liberal media is hiding from us.

Posted by: John_Lai | May 18, 2008 9:03:45 PM

Tell us how you feel about the scandals perpetrated by bush? They include but are not limited to the Iraq war, high fuel prices, firing U.S. attorneys for political reasons, prosecuting the democratic govenor of alabama for political reasons etc. And let me guess you want us to reward the republicans by voting for them, right?

Kravitz, let's get him/her some whiskey and a bed in an armoury.

I voted Clinton in CA and will sure as hell vote for Obama this fall.

I can't fathom McCain in the Whitehouse.

I saw that McCain's chief strategist is Charles Black, who started out as a Nixon Dirty Trickster in 1972. Roger Ailes at Fox was also part of that slimy class of '72. Now those once young slimebags are distinguished old slimebags in GOP ranks. Looks like they will preside over the demise of the GOP. How fitting.

It's obvious that there's no changing your mind countallthevotes. But all the trends are against your argument.

Dems turned out in double and triple the numbers of Repubs in the primaries. And while the Repub base hates their candidate, we Dems are VERY motivated to put our candidate (whichever great one it is) in the White House.

We've lost only by the thinnest thread in the past two presidential elections and all the polls are indicating that Republicans are toxic. The proof has just been demonstrated by the recent Repub Congressional seats taken by Dems. Repub incompetence and graft have sunk their own ship. Americans long for a party that can balance a budget, restore our status in the world, establish a coherent energy policy, etc. etc.

Either Dem nominee who loses in the primary will throw all their support behind the winner.

This Nov. the Dems are taking the White House and increasing our majorities in Congress. It's gonna be a landslide and it's gonna be GREAT!

Ayers has NOTHING to do with the Obama campaign but lobbyists have EVERYTHING to do with the McCain campaign.

Obama- an Antichrist We Can Believe In

Consider his sexual rockstar status among young voters, his ability to continuously lie without impunity, his connections to mob members and terrorist both real and wannabes. His strong and unscrupulous desire for raw power, at any cost, regardless what it does to others, (he became senator simply by disqualifying his opponents). His empty words and changing promises, his desire to be friends with those who wish to destroy us. His wife Michele has expressed her hatred for this country and has publicly announced her husband as the messiah.
The voodoo of this all is that Teflon Obama remains unscathed by all his nefarious connections and thug like history. He is worshiped not only blindly by the mindless masses, but by the fearful media.

I am not very religious, but I think Nostradamus got it right again. What is God going to think of all the lemmings that follow a man of darkness?

Posted by: Peter Carlton | May 18, 2008 9:20:03 PM

With no legitmate arguement you are reduced to fear mongering like too many republicans.

A guy who married into the same Arizona mob that blew up an Arizona Republic reporter wants to talk about association because he had to fire his fifth staff lobbyist in one week? I've never said McCain was too old. I've always said he's just not the person anyone could want as president.

Vanessa,

No offense to you, but I will never support Obama. I find him to be a fraud, too inexperienced and prone to very weird associations that most people find un-American, or really anti-American. He scares me.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 18, 2008 10:49:04 PM

So you want us to reward the republicans for ruining Amerca by staying home or voting for McCain? Sure that's the smart thing to do!

Quotes from wise women:

“When people look at the arc of the campaign, it will be seen that being a woman, in the end, was not a detriment and if anything it was a help to her,” the presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin said in an interview. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign is faltering, she added, because of “strategic, tactical things that have nothing to do with her being a woman.”

"As a former first lady whose political career evolved from her husband’s, Mrs. Clinton was always an imperfect test case for female achievement. “Somebody’s wife,” as Elaine Kamarck, a professor of government at Harvard and a Clinton supporter, described her."

- I am fed up of men thinking women are too emotionally distraught to vote for Obama in Nov.