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Obama Proposes 'Team of Rivals' Cabinet
May 22, 2008 9:14 PM
An amusing question and an historical answer at Sen. Barack Obama's town meeting in Boca Raton, Fla.
The questioner asked, "You're about to achieve a truly wonderful, historic nomination, but we both know unless you, and we, win in November, it's going to be a footnote. So, my question is when the time comes, will you be willing to consider everybody who is a possible help to you as a running mate, even if his or her spouse is an occasional pain in the butt?"
Obama first begged off the presumption that his nomination is a done deal -- "I don't want to jump the gun," he said -- but then he pivoted and jumped the gun a touch.
"I will tell you, though, that my goal is to have the best possible government, and that means me winning," Obama said, per ABC News' Sunlen Miller. "And so, I am very practical minded. I'm a practical-minded guy. And, you know, one of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln."
Obama then referred to "a wonderful book written by Doris Kearns Goodwin called 'Team of Rivals,' in which [she] talked about [how] Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his Cabinet because whatever, you know, personal feelings there were, the issue was, 'How can we get this country through this time of crisis?'"
Lincoln, FYI, appointed three of his rivals for the GOP presidential nomination to his cabinet -- three men who at the time loathed him.
William H. Seward became secretary of state, Salmon P. Chase became secretary of the treasury, and Edward Bates became attorney general.
Another former rival, Edwin Stanton -- who once called Lincoln a "long armed ape" -- became secretary of war.
"That has to be the approach that one takes," Obama said, "whether it's vice president or cabinet, whoever. And by the way that does not exclude Republicans either. You know my attitude is that whoever is the best person for the job is the person I want. ... You know, if I really thought that John McCain was the absolute best person for the Department of the Homeland Security, I would put him in there."
An audience member yelled out: "No!"
"No, I would, if I thought that he was the best," Obama said. "Now, I'm not saying I do. I'm just saying that's got to be the approach that you take because part of the change that I'm looking for is to make sure that we're reminded of what we have in common as Americans."
Andrew Sullivan proposed the Team of Rivals idea earlier this month when pitching a unity ticket with Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., as vice president.
So ... Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., as secretary of state? (Sorry, Sen. Kerry.) Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., as commerce secretary? Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., as attorney general?
Where would you put Mike Gravel?
- jpt
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YES! A "team of rivals" cabinet sounds great. But please....NO HILLARY. She is way too partisan, and just plain poison.
Posted by: Lindsay | May 23, 2008 3:55:26 PM
Obama and Web in 08
Dream ticket
Posted by: catherine s | May 23, 2008 3:26:29 PM
rd
Ironic that you call Obama a liar when it was Hillary Clinton who lied about NAFTA, Bosnia and the 'benefits' of a gas tax.
Furthermore the reasons you cite that make Obama a bad candidate have nothing to do with the candidate himself but w/ associates of the candidate.
So I'll ask you a question, the logic and rationale of which may cause your addled brain to implode:
Are you electing Obama or his associates?
I also challenge you to highlight an actual lie Obama has told.
You have until November to find the lie.
Posted by: Gemma | May 23, 2008 3:24:48 PM
Because of Darth Cheney, the Vice President has a lot of power now. We cannot have a Republican Vice President.
Obama should guarantee his supporters that he will not choose a Republican Vice President!
Posted by: Karen | May 23, 2008 3:18:14 PM
VP=ABH... Anybody But Hillary
She has squandered her popularity and the public's goodwill towards the Clintons in this election debacle. Mike Huckabee is the example of fighting out the nomination with class. The Clintons have always been painfully lacking in class and tact. Her "unfavorable" rating is growing among Democrats and independants nationwide (see her falling poll numbers in Ohio and California).
Hillary has abandoned any credibility as a leader of all of America. She has been a divisive force in American politics for years, and with this election it is clear that she is more than willing to balkanize the population in order to pit group against group, divide and conquer. Her Appalachian Strategy is race baiting at its most insidious, and she has been happy to have the sexes spar with one another over this (see Geraldine Ferraro and Joy Behar's comments).
John McCain might be Bush's annointed successor, but Hillary Clinton is the real heir to Bush/Rove politics. We as a nation need to move past this era of damaging politics. We need a generational change in Washington, and Obama is the one to make it happen.
Posted by: AstoriaNYC | May 23, 2008 3:13:03 PM
libre
You say he is unelectable. Substantiate.
Posted by: Gemma | May 23, 2008 3:12:13 PM
mike gravel for drug czar!!!!
Posted by: ace holiday | May 23, 2008 3:09:52 PM
If anyone has been pandering it is McCain and McClinton.
Gas tax holiday anyone?
I always remind myself to have faith in the American public. Then I remember they voted for Bush. TWICE.
And I read these comments. And I know why. At least half of America is seriously uninformed, bigotted and plain irrational.
(I have no viable diagnosis for anyone who would vote for McCain if Hillary isn t the nominee. They simply defy all the laws of sanity.)
Posted by: Gemma | May 23, 2008 3:01:09 PM
TO: Bob Scofield
No, you are totally incorrect and clearly you either did not read my Electoral Vote analysis, or you did not understand its purpose. Try reading it again, especially the first paragraph or so, which was put in for the benefit of people like yourself.
Frankly, I have no interest in head-to-head matchups for conditions that do not yet exist. First, comes the Convention in Denver at which a Nominee will be selected, but between now and then, a lot of "stuff" is going to hit the whirling blades, and opinions will change, etc. So, really, any so-called polls are meaningless at this point. My analysis just address the question, "Who is the most electable (or stronger) candidate, NOW, based on a side-by-side COMPARISON of WHAT THEY BOTH HAVE ACCOMPLISHED TO DATE, AND CAN ACCOMPLISH through the end of the Primaries?" I realize the question may be a little bit to long and that perhaps it is too complicated for you, but the concept is simple, and so are the numbers. Read them and weep.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008 2:58:45 PM
Shewill
Reality check for you. (Careful. It may hurt.)
The ONLY one Hillary has been fighting for is herself. She has lied to you. She is using you. Its about her.
Truth.
Posted by: Gemma | May 23, 2008 2:47:57 PM
terra, I forgot one other very entertaining religious type, the late Rev. Gene Scott. Now he was really ridiculous, and so self-absorbed, somewhat like Rev. Wright and Senator Obama.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008 2:47:18 PM
Does anyome know what the distance is between Springfield (capitol of Ill) and the south side of Chicago? 200 miles...now for all those makeing the assinine statement that Obama sat in that church for 20 years...would you travel 400 miles to go to church? Now he also traveled all over the country and world..he was not even in Ill a good bit of the time. While the media tried to place Obama in that church during any of the contreversal statements by Wright, they could not. We as a people can only succeed if we have a base of honor and honesty...so please stop useing slander and lies to further your own candidate.
I am not a church goer, but can you support a church with donations, belong to a church and not sit in the pews each service? Do you have to believe every word your pastor says to belong to that church community...if so that is a cult and not a fellowship.
I think this whole argument is stupid and we have worse things to worry about. As far as anti white...that church was anti bad government if anything. It has white members. Read the sermons and stop allowing the media lead you around by the nose.
Check on the votes and records of the candidates...such as Hillary voted for a ban on flag burning.
Posted by: terra
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Yes, terra, I've been thinking about what you posted. It is quite a distance as you say, and I’ll take your figures as accurate. However, for a good part of the time Senator Obama was married, in TUCC, by Rev. Jeremiah Wright. As a married man, I assume that he, like me in my former life, would really like to spend time with my wife, and since I don’t think legislators work more than a 9-5 day, 5 days a week (with some exceptions of course), with much material they can take home to work on, that he would most likely spend a good amount of time at home, especially if he got any kind of legislative perks at all, like a transportation allowance, or a car, or could even hop a train at no charge, etc.
I know how wearing long distance travel can be, as I used to commute a 100 mile round-trip 5 days a week, driving my own car, between work and home. I did that by car for five years, and by train for another five. So, I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe that Senator Obama did something similar, and being home, he probably went to hear Rev. Wright, who you have to admit can be quite entertaining, more so that any minister, or priest I’ve every heard speak, even Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, or the Rev. Robert Schuller.
And then there were all those CDs of the sermons, and the Trumpet magazine. By the way, it should be mentioned that Senator Obama appeared many, many times on the cover of that publication and had been interviewed on occasion as well as written about in it by the Rev. Wright, himself. In fact, in the April 2007 issue of “The Trumpet”, Rev. Wright wrote an essay entitled “Facing the Rising Sun”, in which he said, “God raised Barack from a dead political career to the United States Senate. Then, as Jesus ascended into Heaven, God made a way for Barack to ascend to the pinnacle of politics. . . . We are truly in a “new day.” Now with that kind of expectation being placed on him, and with his over-inflated ego, I should think that Senator Obama would have made EVERY effort to attend that church and bask in his glory. Amen.
As to Hillary’s vote against flag burning, and again, I take your word for it, I’m glad she did, but there is an irony involved in that vote. I’m all for it, because having served in the U.S. Navy, for two years active duty on two six-month patrols, operating out of Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo) Naval Base, during the run-up to the Cuban Missel Crisis, I came to appreciate the very great importance of the American Flag and when later I travelled in Europe, I really appreciated seeing it when the ship I returned on passed the Statue of Liberty and I saw the flag flying again. It was the greatest sight in the world, especially having been away from it so much. And so I literally hate to see an American terrorist, like William Ayers, trampling on it and wiping his feet on it, as he did for a publicity picture for his crummy book, taken in an alleyway, (I wonder why he didn’t do it in public), as you can see for yourself at:
I also do not like to see its likeness used for all kinds of articles of clothing and on junk, nor am I fond of those flag lapel pins or the other trivial commercialized uses of our flag. No, I served under it, doing my part to defend my country and perhaps to have protected people like you, or if you are not that old, then your parents. In short, I don’t wave the flag, I respect the flag, I am pround of the flag, I honor the flag, and I am sickened by people who think they can just trash it, or burn it in protests or riots, people like Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dohrn and the rest of the SDS and Weathermen creeps. But here is the irony: legally, the only proper and authorized way to dispose of an American flag that has become tattered and worn is not to throw it in the trash (which by the way is illegal), but rather it is to burn it, respectfully.
So, Senator Obama can put on a flag pin or surround himself with American flags to pander to potential voters, but frankly, I do not think he is that sincere, nor do I think voters are that easily fooled.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008 2:41:24 PM
To Yavo Lem, your electoral math analysis ignores the simple fact that Obama will not be running against Hillary Clinton in November. He will be running against John McCain. Do you think Obama will lose California to McCain the way he did to Hillary? How about New York? Your entire analysis is based on a fallacy. Furthermore, all polls indicate Obama will crush McCain, and that is in spite of the fact that many Hillary supporters are telling pollsters that they would vote for McCain, in order to bolster her arguments for the nomination. Once Hillary drops out and does her best to graciously endorse Obama, her supporters will vote for Obama as well. Not all her supporters (I suppose there are those that are voting for her because she is white and will vote for McCain for that reason, but that is a small percentage - the vast majority will stand by the Democratic candidate knowing full well what peril we will be in if McCain is elected).
Posted by: Bob Scofield | May 23, 2008 2:10:36 PM
Yavo, I'm actually an independent and don't really like any of them. But I do like to check all facts out. No it didn't come from Washington DC but I'm sure this is what Larry was referring to.
Posted by: al | May 23, 2008 2:09:23 PM
"Where would you put Mike Gravel?"
Ambassador to Alaska.
Posted by: JC | May 23, 2008 2:03:24 PM
To all of you who have taken exception to Senator Obama "comparing" himself to Lincoln: Saying someone is one of your heroes is not comparing yourself to that hero. Most of the posts on here seem to be from loud-mouthed pseudo-intellectuals who obviously just like to spout off and think of themselves as important. Other sites that I've posted on seem to have much more reasonable and informed people making the comments. I just wish that I had the time to single out those of you who are the worst. Good day.
Posted by: Tim - North Carolina | May 23, 2008 1:57:10 PM
al, I don't know which side you are on, but thanks for the information. At any rate, the Chair of the South Carolina State Democratic Party is a long way down the line from the DNC in Washington, D.C.
I trust "Hot-under-the-collar" Larry will see your post and being the gentleman he is, will check it out for himself, before he gives me another blast.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008 1:48:14 PM
TO: Dr. Johnny Skeptic
I really hope the FBI is reading your posts.
Posted by: Yavo Lem | May 23, 2008 1:26:00 PM
Hey hillary supporters, sorry but she isn't gonna have time to do much after she finally quits, she will be in court too much on the PAUL V CLINTON trial. It's still at the forefront, if you really want to Educate yourselves you should look it up on line!
Posted by: Sue Filutze | May 23, 2008 1:08:52 PM
Terra - You do know that Obama lives on the south side of Chicago? That his children go to school on the south side of Chicago? That he had a second job as a visiting lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School (on the south side of Chicago)? He lived in Chicago, and he went to that church, and he donated money to that church, sometimes up to 20,000/year.
Posted by: vicki | May 23, 2008 1:02:04 PM
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