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Obama's Big Cross Kentucky Flier

May 18, 2008 11:58 AM

Some voters in Kentucky, where Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., is expected to romp on Tuesday, have received a flier from the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., where the lanky Illinoisan is emphasizing his Christianity. (Update: The Obama campaign says this flier is not new, though it's the first I've seen of it. I'm told it's being distributed on a limited basis to faith groups.)

On the front of the flier is a photograph of Obama speaking from a pulpit with a large cross hanging on the wall behind him.

"Faith. Hope. Change. Barack Obama for President. 'My faith teaches me that I can sit in church and pray all I want, but I won't be fulfilling God's will unless I go out and do the Lord's work'. - Barack Obama"

Inside, it also mentions that as a "community organizer in neighborhoods devastated by the closing of local steel mills" the senator "forged a profound connection with the people of these communities. At their encouragement, he visited a local church one Sunday. That day, Obama felt a beckoning of the spirit and accepted Jesus Christ into his life."

Over at CBN, our friend David Brody writes: "I know the conservative policy purists will say that Obama is liberal and therefore Evangelicals won’t buy his 'Evangelical speak'. Not so fast. Remember, many people vote based on an emotional connection to a candidate or if they can relate to that person. Obama may need to work on this perception that he is 'elite' but when he talks about Jesus and the Bible and the fact that he’s a sinner, it makes him more real and in the process, more electable too."

The mainstream media's reaction has been quite different from the reaction when former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a Baptist minister, invoked Christ in a TV ad.

Of course, the context is different. One senses that half the battle Obama is waging here is to let voters know he's not Muslim.

But still, why the different reaction?

- jpt

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On SNL, McCain said he's very,
very, very old.

He's also very, very, very
infirm to run for POTUS - a
job that would require him
to know whether he is coming
or going.

Posted by: anon | May 20, 2008 12:37:26 AM

I think there is a different reaction on both fronts from the media. The media went overboard with 6 to 8 weeks of Rev. Wright. He was scary to a lot of the media and to alot of America because most haven't spent time in black churches and have never heard most of black preachers critique America on.

I think the media's decision to go overboard mixed with its lack of wall to wall coverage over the RW evangelical movement's pulpit message put them in a 'fair and balanced quandry.'

I think that tv coverage has shown the flier with the cross but the media knows it has a 'fair and balanced' deficit on religion.

What can the media do when at least 8% to 20% think Obama is a Muslim AND goes to Rev. Wright's church?

Posted by: Genna | May 19, 2008 9:58:04 AM

Very hard to believe that Huckabee and
his people didn't know that bookshelf in the background looked like a cross.

Obama is a Christiand and has attended churches around the country. The ministers like the fact that he usually stays the entire service instead of just for 5 minutes before running to the next church. Because the false rumors and emails persist that he is a muslim, the flier is wise and appropiate.

As for faith. It took a lot of faith to believe that a skinny guy named Barack Obama could become President of the United States.


Posted by: MrUniteUs | May 19, 2008 7:15:12 AM

The candidate aligned with Christ
has already won the nomination.

The losing Antichrist female
candidate is engaged in all
manner of deceit and trickery.
Her shenanigans and skullduggery
will lead her to naught.

Posted by: anon | May 19, 2008 12:43:43 AM

hey.....

Hillary is still in the race.... and needs our support!

Just because the Obamaniacs call her down and out doesn't make it so.

Their perceptivity is skewed and colorblinded....
(If he can sound sexist, I can sound racist.... though colorblind and perceptivity colorblind can't occur without perceptivity)

They spread lies about this race being OVER. Well, It's NOT!!!

And this guy is glad!

(snipped from Kentuckian 051808):

"MY FELLOW AMERICANS......Barack Obama has finally crossed the line!!!!!!!!! Obama has gone too far!!! He has insulted every Vietnam Vet in West Virginia and Kentucky. Obama has no right to finally stick on his flag pin now, stage all those flags behind him and attempts to align himself or address the Vietnam War. WV. and KY. are largely vets, patriots, Bluegrass people, and we revere God, Country, and the American Flag and take this subject very seriously. I am sickened to see Obama act like he knows what it means to be a Vietnam Vet. Obama has no idea what patriotism means. No matter what the other states say that voted for Obama, KY. and WV. say it DOES matter who Obama aligns himself with and in bed with. WV. and KY. are going to say it LOUD AND CLEAR with our vote is for Hillary. Obama can bypass us with his trash talk. I for one am appalled and sicken by the God, Country, Jesus, and the Flag hating states and superdelegates that voted for Obama; they are betrayers of this great country. "

As you can see,not everyone is for B O!

My vote will be for Hillary Clinton
because she has the strength and the brain and the chutzpa to bring our country out of these terrible economic times into a future of universal health care, job growth, and solutions on the devastating mortgage problems confronting too many of our home owners.

GIVE EM HELL, HILLARY!!!

Posted by: EARFUL | May 19, 2008 12:23:37 AM

Countallthevotes, I am confused. You wrote: "...as the months passed, I felt the idea of becoming an organizer slipping away from me. The company promoted me to the position of financial writer. I had my own office, my own secretary;..." But in the very next paragraph you wrote: "If Barack was promoted, his new job responsibilities were more of the same - rewriting other people’s copy. As far as I know, he always had a small office, and the idea that he had a secretary is laughable. Only the company president had a secretary."

You say that you had your own secretary...but only the company president had a secretary?

Posted by: James Danley | May 18, 2008 11:31:49 PM

Jenny,

If you followed the link I provided you would find many of Obama's co-workers attesting to the fact that his account of the "finanacial institution" and his responsibilities were pure fiction. And there were so many co-workers asserting that.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 18, 2008 10:17:31 PM

Obama will not use the word "cabinet" to describe his staff. Instead, he will call them his "DISCIPLES." Great stuff!

Posted by: Tony | May 18, 2008 9:22:13 PM

Jenny said: "Another Clintonian crawls out of the woodwork to smear.

Bet, I could do the same thing with Bosnia Hillary's book."

I'M SURE. But Obama is supposed to be soooooo different, when he's just the same ole, same ole....

Posted by: Tony | May 18, 2008 8:58:41 PM

Countalthevotes:

Another Clintonian crawls out of the woodwork to smear.

Bet, I could do the same thing with Bosnia Hillary's book.

Posted by: Jenny | May 18, 2008 8:55:59 PM

Josh,

HOw do you know what "Barack" thinks?? Obama supporters talk as if they have a personal connection with him. He has created a myth; you have fallen in love with that myth. I do hope it works out for you.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 18, 2008 8:54:59 PM

Josh -- stop deluding yourself. Obama never sat down and said: Well, I do not really need black, liberal faithful Democrats to vote for me. They are a throw-away crowd. LOL. If you believe that, you believe that Karl Rove is a closet Democrat. The "likes of you"? LOL. that hurt. LOL..boo hooo...

Posted by: Tony | May 18, 2008 8:52:29 PM

jgaw and tony and anyone interested in truth and accuracy,

I assume some of you have read Obama's book in which he recounts his time in high finance in NYC, post-Columbia. Well, it seems some of his co-workers read his book and sharply disagree with his account. Take a look and see what I mean. Obama writes fiction, pure and simple and embellishes his resume. Other than writing these two books, I do not see real achievements that would qualify him for POTUS.

Barack Obama Embellishes His Resume
Don’t get me wrong - I’m a big fan of Barack Obama, the Illinois freshman senator and hot young Democratic Party star. But after reading his autobiography, I have to say that Barack engages in some serious exaggeration when he describes a job that he held in the mid-1980s.I know because I sat down the hall from him, in the same department, and worked closely with his boss. I can’t say I was particularly close to Barack - he was reserved and distant towards all of his co-workers - but I was probably as close to him as anyone. I certainly know what he did there, and it bears only a loose resemblance to what he wrote in his book.

Here’s Barack’s account:

Eventually a consulting house to multinational corporations agreed to hire me as a research assistant. Like a spy behind enemy lines, I arrived every day at my mid-Manhattan office and sat at my computer terminal, checking the Reuters machine that blinked bright emerald messages from across the globe. As far as I could tell I was the only black man in the company, a source of shame for me but a source of considerable pride for the company’s secretarial pool.

First, it wasn’t a consulting house; it was a small company that published newsletters on international business. Like most newsletter publishers, it was a bit of a sweatshop. I’m sure we all wished that we were high-priced consultants to multinational corporations. But we also enjoyed coming in at ten, wearing jeans to work, flirting with our co-workers, partying when we stayed late, and bonding over the low salaries and heavy workload.

Barack worked on one of the company’s reference publications. Each month customers got a new set of pages on business conditions in a particular country, punched to fit into a three-ring binder. Barack’s job was to get copy from the country correspondents and edit it so that it fit into a standard outline. There was probably some research involved as well, since correspondents usually don’t send exactly what you ask for, and you can’t always decipher their copy. But essentially the job was copyediting.

It’s also not true that Barack was the only black man in the company. He was the only black professional man. Fred was an African-American who worked in the mailroom with his son. My boss and I used to join them on Friday afternoons to drink beer behind the stacks of office supplies. That’s not the kind of thing that Barack would do. Like I said, he was somewhat aloof.

…as the months passed, I felt the idea of becoming an organizer slipping away from me. The company promoted me to the position of financial writer. I had my own office, my own secretary; money in the bank. Sometimes, coming out of an interview with Japanese financiers or German bond traders, I would catch my reflection in the elevator doors—see myself in a suit and tie, a briefcase in my hand—and for a split second I would imagine myself as a captain of industry, barking out orders, closing the deal, before I remembered who it was that I had told myself I wanted to be and felt pangs of guilt for my lack of resolve.

If Barack was promoted, his new job responsibilities were more of the same - rewriting other people’s copy. As far as I know, he always had a small office, and the idea that he had a secretary is laughable. Only the company president had a secretary. Barack never left the office, never wore a tie, and had neither reason nor opportunity to interview Japanese financiers or German bond traders.

Then one day, as I sat down at my computer to write an article on interest-rate swaps, something unexpected happened. Auma called. I had never met this half sister; we had written only intermittently. …[several pages on his suffering half-sister] …a few months after Auma called, I turned in my resignation at the consulting firm and began looking in earnest for an organizing job.

What Barack means here is that he got copy from a correspondent who didn’t understand interest rate swaps, and he was trying to make sense out of it.

All of Barack’s embellishment serves a larger narrative purpose: to retell the story of the Christ’s temptation. The young, idealistic, would-be community organizer gets a nice suit, joins a consulting house, starts hanging out with investment bankers, and barely escapes moving into the big mansion with the white folks. Luckily, an angel calls, awakens his conscience, and helps him choose instead to fight for the people.

Like I said, I’m a fan. His famous keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention moved me to tears. The Democrats - not to mention America - need a mixed-race spokesperson who can connect to both urban blacks and rural whites, who has the credibility to challenge the status quo on issues ranging from misogynistic rap to unfair school funding.

And yet I’m disappointed. Barack’s story may be true, but many of the facts are not. His larger narrative purpose requires him to embellish his role. I don’t buy it. Just as I can’t be inspired by Steve Jobs now that I know how dishonest he is, I can’t listen uncritically to Barack Obama now that I know he’s willing to bend the facts to his purpose.

Once, when I applied for a marketing job at a big accounting firm, my then-supervisor called HR to say that I had exaggerated something on my resume. I didn’t agree, but I also didn’t get the job. But when Barack Obama invents facts in a book ranked No. 8 on the NY Times nonfiction list, it not only fails to be noticed but it helps elevate him into the national political pantheon.

For the comments see this link. Many other co-workers weigh in:

http://www.analyzethis.net/blog/2005/07/09/barack-obama-embellishes-his-resume/

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 18, 2008 8:51:08 PM

Jgaw/Tony - whoever...

Obama was never going to get support from the likes of you. He knew that well before Iowa and will make it to the White House inspite of you.

Posted by: Josh | May 18, 2008 8:45:50 PM

and herb,
we have not seen your name around here before.
who are you?
better still i would like to know exactly who obama is and what is he going to do

Posted by: jgaw | May 18, 2008 8:43:26 PM

josh,
here is some more jibber jabber for you,
sen.clinton supporters are voters too.
and will not vote for the "flim-flam
man obama.
who is pulling the 'Woolie-bully'
over your eyes.

obama has not won the primary fair and square-he had help from msm and dnc.
he will not be POTUS
if by some fluke-he does-we will all suffer for it.

Posted by: jgaw | May 18, 2008 8:41:34 PM

Sarah - if I'm sexist, then don't vote for me in November. See -- that's how it works! The party/candidate is sexist. I don't vote for the part/candidate. Ta da.

Posted by: Tony | May 18, 2008 8:38:03 PM

For your information Tony, I'm a 61 year old who has raised 4 foster children - all college educated.

Hill can hang in there all right; her campaign is as dead as a dodo.

Posted by: Sarah | May 18, 2008 8:34:33 PM

wow tony,
i just read your essay, it is great and so true. please send to obama and the dnc. and sent to all major news outlets.
cnn and msnbc nbc they probably will not do anything about it but they will not be able to say they did not know.

Posted by: jgaw | May 18, 2008 8:34:12 PM

Going to the CHURCH of Rev WRIGHT does not make Obama a CHRISTIAN.

Posted by: Face book | May 18, 2008 8:32:28 PM

When Obama mentions his faith, I think of Trinity United Church and Jeremiah Wright. I mean really, what am I supposed to think of??? Don't want this near the White House.

Posted by: NJH | May 18, 2008 8:31:03 PM

Gore, Bush...enough with the jibber jabber Jgaw.

The nomination will not be awarded to the person you like but to him who the voters chose.

Posted by: Josh | May 18, 2008 8:30:33 PM

Sarah, I have long believed he would win. but since that time, agreed not to vote for him in november. clinton can stay in the race regardless. it can be a longshot and she can stay in. just like you applying to "dream" schools but only getting in the safety.

Posted by: Tony | May 18, 2008 8:30:20 PM

obama did not win fair and square

he had help from the the american mainstream media

he had help from the democratic party
bigwigs.

no if it had been fair and square. we would have known back in january about rev. wright, and bill ayers.

Posted by: jgaw | May 18, 2008 8:27:48 PM

November is the word now.

So, Clintonians have actually conceded the primaries?

The Hill missed the memo!

Posted by: Sarah | May 18, 2008 8:25:35 PM

Jeez! Chill out Tony!

20, 30, 40 years - it doesn't matter.

This is 2008 and Hill lost - fair and square.

Posted by: Tina | May 18, 2008 8:22:16 PM

I would not be surprised if Senator Obama had wrapped himself in a flag and carried a gun in one hand and the bible in the other to try to get the voters of West Virginia and Kentucky to vote for him. He will say or do anything to get elected. He is a pathetic man, not worthy of the Presidency.

Posted by: Mary | May 18, 2008 8:19:51 PM

Priscilla - stop projecting. I'm not bitter. A few weeks ago, though, Obama's internet warriors said it was ok to be bitter. So even if I were, it's fine, right?

Posted by: Tony | May 18, 2008 8:03:06 PM

Bertha, spare me the drama and learn how to read more carefully. I didn't say blacks were racist for voting for Obama in part due to his race. Apparently that is your own insecurity. I'm black, and I don't find anything wrong with having racial pride. I do have a problem with people only pointing out when whites vote for Clinton, and I have a problem with the notion that white support for Clinton is inherently racist, but black support for Obama is just a coincidence.

Posted by: Tony | May 18, 2008 8:01:35 PM

Bruce Becker, the argument that if we waterboard the enemy then they will waterboard us is a bogus argument. Our enemy already has a history of decapitating Americans. I for one would rather be waterboarded then have my head sliced off with a machete or sword. And here is a startling fact, do you know who has committed the most acts of waterboarding? US Government THREE -- Anti-war protesters THOUSANDS (dozens at nearly every anti-war rally).

Posted by: James Danley | May 18, 2008 3:25:05 PM

As a proud hard working white American, the dream ticket would be Jake Tapper and Hillary Clinton. Jake and Hillary speaks the truth of Obama.

I love my guns and whiskey!

Posted by: Bruce | May 18, 2008 3:21:04 PM

"It must be awful to be Muslim in this country. Islamophobia has definitely gone up this year.

Enough with the Obama-Osama fear mongering.

Americans aren't buying it."

Yeah, we really do need to chill out.

Posted by: Amber | May 18, 2008 3:19:39 PM

I'm so tired of the right wing talking points that i can't understand how anyone can think they are reasonable. You really should stop listening to Rush and Hannity both of them leave critical information out of their arguements against Democrats. If you beleive that right now is the time for more de-regulation of Corporations, the continued power of Lobbiest and those they represent, staying in Iraq until God knows when and tax cuts that mainly benifit the rich. Vote for McCain. The points I just mentioned are why you should support him and the facts supporting why this is better is how you should frame your arguement against Obama

This Guilt by association argument works against anyone who has a long list of people who they rely on for public office. Here is how the arguement works (this is all fact by the way) McCain's mother hates Mormons. She claimed this during a live interview on MSN. Because McCain didn't denounce her and he has been listening to her anti-Mormon retoric for so long how can we trust him to stand up for religous freedom in this country. Also according to his preacher he has never come up to the alter and publicly accepted Crist at his church, so there are doubts he is even a Christian (in the true sense). How can he represent America if he doesn't even beleive in God and has been pretending to be a man of faith when he obviously is not. He did call the Christian Group led by Jerry Falwel "agents of intolerance" What is even more frightening about McCain is that 2 of his staff members have lobbied on behalf of the dictatorship government of Myanmar. These sorts of associations are troubling. What is a nominee for president doing employing people who represent a dictatorship. What were they doing on Myanmar's behalf and what does this say about McCain's friends values? How is he affected by these people who he surrounds himself with who are so sympathetic to dictators that they lobby their anti-civil (or any) rights style governments values to America? Obviously, there is a section of McCain's inner circle who support taking away of the people's civil liberties. How will this play out if the American people elect him president (it is scarey)

All of you Hannity idoits take note--- anyone can be smeared through guilt by association. The amazing thing is how you people buy into it.

Posted by: dane | May 18, 2008 3:19:31 PM

Obama will be our next president and all praise and honor goes to the God of the Bible.

Posted by: Jim | May 18, 2008 3:18:09 PM

Vote Hillary, I love these "I'm so shocked/look it up!" type of posts. So I looked it up and it's 57 nations, not "states" that organized in 1969.

"The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It groups 57 nations, most of which are Islamic, from the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkan, Southeast Asia, South Asia and South America. The official languages of the organization are Arabic, English and French." Wikipedia

Maybe the sky isn't falling, afterall. But I'm sure there are people who will go no farther than reading your scare tactic attempt. As they say, perception beats the facts.

Posted by: KJ in NC | May 18, 2008 3:14:51 PM

Right on "Vets for Hillary", way to bring on the references of Good Support for Hillary.


It's a shame the amount of baloney that some "Obama - the new messiah" supporters will dish to try to fool us all.

Oh and since when has posing a good argument against an opponent been a reason to label someone as using "negative" politics? Like everything else he flip-flops on, Obama is just calling Hillary negative because he lost the last debate with her, and she's making some good arguments with him.

Hillary has been amongst the best of "politically correct" of any candidate. This is because Hillary understands that we are a diverse nation. Hillary knows that our diversity is part of what makes us such a strong nation.

Don't be a FOOL!! Don't vote for Obama!!

Posted by: Jane | May 18, 2008 3:14:44 PM

Jess,

It must be lonely at your flat. The fact that you can't vote in our election is not lost on me... and I'm thankful of that. There is no reason that I care about anyone's grandparents. HRC's, or Obama's, or McCain's. My own are long since gone. While they have some influence in life... these are all grown people with lives for which only they can answer-- a grandparent is free of blame or credit. So, there is no "issue" or "argument" for which I am obliged to answer. In short, "pack sand." I'll not respond again.

Posted by: yeah whatever | May 18, 2008 3:11:24 PM

It produces cognitive dissnonance. Obama's message of change has no focus. Layering on the religious symbols invokes trust where there has yet to be substance. The ultra-liberal-intelligent image conflicts with the on knees in prayer image.

It comes off as pandering for votes. People react to that because that was Bush/Rove's technique and we are sensitive to it.

Posted by: len | May 18, 2008 3:10:31 PM

i know the voters of kentucky are smart enough to see how obama is playing them.

for him to have sat in the church he has sat in for 20years and now to put out this flyer-is an insult.

I think the only people in Kentucky who will buy this are the Black people-and they will set out to continue to make excuses for him. no matter what he does.

My black brothers and sisters are showing their "racial pride" for a black man to be president is so desperate now they will accept,make excuses,threaten anything for obama.

makes no difference if everyday he is proving a little more and more he should not be president, he is black and it must be.

mr. obama said he found God in this church and became a christian, and then,
after 20year-but within a few months he has had to denounce the man who helped him to God.,obama has now started wearing a flagpin-after laying out that long explaination of why he didn't wear one.

I just hope his soul is still intact once he get the white house.

we didn't know him. what we do know about him raises more questions, and what he has told us-he is changing as the times or situation calls for.

sill leave me asking, who is obama and what exactly does he stand for, and exactly what is he going to do for me and mine, other americans,

and yes-I have got the "hope and change" message, but what is the rest of the story?

Posted by: jgaw | May 18, 2008 3:08:21 PM

I am part of the majority "white male" population living in Ohio. I can relate to Jake Tapper completely! Jake, don't let your guard down on Obama. Continue to tell the truth about those people!

Posted by: Bruce | May 18, 2008 3:06:12 PM


If the Republicans wanted a nominee this year who personified the brain death of their party, they couldn't have picked a better one than John McCain. Ideas have never been the Arizona senator's strong suit, even when the conservative tide was surging. McCain's calling card has always been his biography, as those who run his campaign and craft his ads know well.

The one issue that McCain has always cared about is the honor of the American military, as he defines it. Leaving Iraq would dishonor those soldiers who fought and died there. Torturing our enemies would dishonor those soldiers as well. McCain comes from a military family and has always had to live up to the code of his father and grandfather, for whom military service was both a way of life and the highest form of patriotism. On other matters, his ideas amount to so much boilerplate, to the received truths of the conservative mainstream that he is recycling in this year's campaign, no matter their relevance to American's current state.

Consider his economic platform. McCain proposes making George W. Bush's massive tax cuts for the rich permanent and cutting corporate tax rates by 10 percent -- proposals which, if enacted, would increase our budget deficit by a cool $2 trillion to $3 trillion over the next decade. To fix the faltering economy, he proposes a summer suspension of the gas tax -- a $50 to $100 one-time seasonal tax reduction in the face of rising costs and stagnant incomes. The only economic issue that has engaged McCain's interest is congressional earmarks, which total, by his measure, roughly $18 billion in a $14 trillion economy (less than 1 percent). His crusade against earmarks then really isn't an economic issue at all; it is merely a way the politically astute McCain distinguishes himself from his ostensibly more political colleagues.

McCain has never shown much passion for or interest in economic or social causes. His default position is conventionally conservative on issue after issue, and there's no reason to believe a McCain presidency would take another course.


Posted by: Relic | May 18, 2008 3:04:20 PM

Oh please! Hillary doesn't constantly talk about religion because she is not constantly being called a Muslim.

Posted by: Meg | May 18, 2008 3:00:32 PM

I love Jake Tapper's view and I love Hillary Clinton. If you want Obama, go read another blog!

Posted by: Caroline | May 18, 2008 2:59:50 PM

Jess,

Your quote: "Yeah whatever - you are totally lacking in an ability to analyse."

That's not nice. Please, try to stay with facts, rather than personal attacks if you respond to me. If you'd proven that statement with any facts of your own, I'd appreciate your response. As it is, though, you can "pack sand."

Posted by: yeah whatever | May 18, 2008 2:59:41 PM

Right you are Ralph. I kind of notice how Jake Tapper takes one view. Perhaps I read this when he only talks of Obama.

Hillary for Prez!

Posted by: Jane | May 18, 2008 2:57:40 PM

jake,
I am a sen. clinton supporter, I think sen. clinton will make a better president than obama.
I think the notion of obama claiming to be a new kind of politician-bringing hope and change-
obama is the same kind of politican that he claims need to be out of washington.
his political resume' is to short, his time on the national stage is just beginning-and already he has shown he will do and say anything to get the vote.
I wonder were the church is that he was in the pulpit on this picture?
Has he changed is membership from tucc?
I wonder what his relationship is with trinity now?

he said he was invited to a local church and became a christian, what religion was he before he became a christian?
and if he was not a member of a church or religious that is ok, but this pandering that he is now doing i fear is just a sign of things to come from him.
Now, I and a whole lot of other people know sen. clinton did not have people who were able to run a good campaign for her. as lanny davis said "she is better than her campaign"
but we know sen. clinton is the more capable-one of obama' political advisors said so-but obama will be able to surrond himself with smart people.
well we have seen that before, with disasterous results.
instead of have the smart one-sen. clinton in office setting things right.
we will have obama who already he,his surrogates and supporters are finding more and more times to explain and make excuses for him.

and talk about uniting people, obama has with the help of the msm and the dnc bigwigs have managed to divide this dem. party where it will never be put back together again. time for a third mainstream political party.

i hope obama will not want sen. clinton
to campaign for him. His wife michelle was asked would she campaign for sen. clinton if clinton were the nominee
michelle replied "I'll have to think about that"
so why should sen. clinton campaign for him?
the only thing new about the obama politics are they are the new faces of old politics

Posted by: jgaw | May 18, 2008 2:55:56 PM

VelShan; I couldn't agree more.

Obama has certainly brought a lot of social issues to the surface.

I hope that most people will also take time to listen to what he has to say instead of screaming Islam! Black! Elite!

Difference inspires irrational fear.

Posted by: Misty | May 18, 2008 2:54:30 PM

It is not you Ralph. He is biased

Posted by: DMR | May 18, 2008 2:54:28 PM

Who can trust an individual who sat for 20 years listening to Jeremiah Wright's words of hate for America and whites?

Yes, Barack Hussein Obama sat in Wright's congregation holding hands with the overly jubilated members as they celebrated the sad and terrible incident of 9/11. Barack sat for 20 years listening and believing the demented theories of how whites created AIDS to eliminate blacks and many other sick stories of persecution.

Who can trust Barack?

Posted by: Manolete | May 18, 2008 2:49:27 PM

"Mary Nugget - wake up!!!

Obama is not ashamed of his white heritage.

HOWEVER, IF YOU WERE A PERSON OF MIXED HERITAGE, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IN AMERICA, YOU ARE CONSIDERED BLACK.

I applaud him for finding the balance he now has, because trust me, it is difficult to attain especially whenever you encounter racism now and then because of your appearance."

- personal and poignant

Posted by: Alex | May 18, 2008 2:48:39 PM

Obama's background is most similiar to typical Americans-he took out loans to attend law school and still was in debt until he signed his book deal. McCain, Hillary and almost everyone who has been president or VP comes from earning millions and millions of dollars. They accept campaign money from corporations and lobbysists, yet tell us they want to make changes to benefits the average person. If you have never been a part of the low or middle class, you do no understand the daily struggles. Obama is not corrupt and owes no corporations or lobbysists favors because his donations are from regualr americans like you and me. Regardless of political parties and political views-politics are run by corporations and special interest groups. That is why we are such huge debt (in addition to the Iraq war cost), have declining status based on public education compared to otehr developed countries, have one of the highest prison rates, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and middle class are not advancing and oil prices continue to rise. The oil companies made record profits last year and will make close, if nto more than that next year, because they have realized how much we depend on oil and can pretty much charge wha they want. Bush is not asking the oil companies to reduce prices. He is from Texas for gosh sake. Cheny-also from an ebergy backgroun made 21 million dollars last year. Can you figure that our??? Obama is America's best chance to make this country better than it has been for years. What is Hillary or McCain going to do to help you and your family with your daily struggles-Obama was nto raised with a silver spoon and because he has not been in Washington too long, he is not corrupt like most other politicians. Keep you facts straight and stop falling into the traps of the sensationalized media portraying stories that have nothing to do with the real issues. For those who are "religious" I am sure that you have attended a service where a preacher has said something that you have not liked, and if you are from W. Virginia, the Southern state-you probably have heard worst comments that Wright-you just would never admit it-not would it end up on the news. If you really think about it, most people who don't vote for Obama should be rich republicans or people who cannot elect a candidate because he is half black-which is extremely ignorant-but yes, racisim is still alive in America, even today unfortunately. If not, you are looking at race (even thought Obama is half white) or religion (where there is seperation of church and state-gay marriage is decided by the states, not the federal government and abortion rights will never be overturned completely) to make your decision, which is absolutely ridiculous.

Posted by: msh | May 18, 2008 2:47:44 PM

People who vote for Hillary Clinton are not racists.

But...people who refuse to vote for a candidate because he is black ARE Racists.

Unfortunately, it would appear that a significant percentage of the good people of West Virginia and Kentucky have said that they will not vote for Obama BECAUSE he is black.

Now, I am just a 52 year old white man from Beavercreek Oregon, but that kind of behavior looks racist and intolerant to me.

I just think that voters ought to focus on the issues (upon which there are stark differences between Senator McCain and Senator Obama), and leave the race baiting and name-calling to the Jerry Springer show.

Posted by: toothchipper55 | May 18, 2008 2:47:10 PM

The press needs to take a real look into their chosen candidate. He is not perfect - Palmer, Rezzo, Wright, Land Deal, just to name a few of his crimes.

They need to finally realize that Obama just doesn't have the knowledge and skills to to POTUS.

Then again, that's why Kennedy, Pelosi, and Kerry want him......puppet.

Hillary would stand up to everyone in the Congress and Senate....no matter what party they belong too.

Posted by: Linda R. in Woodbridge, VA | May 18, 2008 2:43:16 PM

I speak of God and service to God's kingdom in much the same way Senator Obama does, but I am not an evangelical. We forget that evangelicals are a small portion of the total church. Sometimes I think the media automatically equates "Christian" with "Evangelical." If you do, you leave out about 90% of the rest of us. I happen to be a United Methodist pastor, a liberal, and a committed Christian. There are many of us around the world who wed faith and action but don't carry a conservative theology.

Posted by: Greg Brown | May 18, 2008 2:41:27 PM

countallthevotes,

I appreciate your information. That was a concise history. However, it was a bit full of judgement. Sorry, but it came through that way. I'll continue to do research, and I encourage you to do the same.

As I read, Obama's mother moved to Indonesia as she'd married an Indonesian whose student visa had been revoked from the U of Hawaii (and was conscripted into the Indonesian army). Obama went on to say that he attended the Indonesian schools as they couldn't afford the 'international school' (page 187-188, The Audacity of Hope). It looks like that was only a couple of years-- from age 6-8??

I honestly haven't finished reading the book.

As far as HRC, her parents were pretty wealthy. Her grandparents? Maybe not. McCain is the son of an Admiral, who was the son of an Admiral. So, yeah, pretty wealthy. It's a fact of life (sadly) that the presidential candidates are all from wealth. We'd bash them as idiots from Idaho State (like me) if that weren't true.

Still, I'll read McCain's book, too, if there is one. I'll read HRC's, if she somehow manages to topple popular opinion, which I doubt, and claim the nomination. That, too, is predicated that I can find a book that she's written.

I've liked Obama's ideas on racism, opportunity, and economics. So, McCain will have to do a pretty good job....

On the con side, though, Obama is pretty wordy. I come away with an understanding why people can say 'all talk, no content.' It takes a pretty close read to distill the perspective and the policy that would likely come from him as a president. It IS there, though.

I appreciate your response. I wish you the best.

Posted by: yeah whatever | May 18, 2008 2:41:27 PM

who else keeps seeing flashbacks of "War Games" yelling at the computer- adaptive nuclear chess game?

"learn dammit, learn"

Posted by: me imperturbe | May 18, 2008 2:41:12 PM

Smear all you want - lie, scream, cheat, live in a state of denial and ignorance.

Obama is the presumptive Democrat nominee because many chose to find out the TRUTH for themselves INSTEAD OF RELYING ON RUSH LIMBAUGH and his emailing cronies.

Posted by: Sophie | May 18, 2008 2:39:16 PM

Why the different reaction?

Huckabee's ad had a subliminal (or not so subliminal) disguised cross which was actually an intense reflection off of the wooden supports on a bookcase behind him. In contrast, Obama's cross is actually a cross. No effort here to conceal anything. This mailer is designed to highlight the fact that Obama is a Christian. Why? Well, it turns out there are some big time scumbags out there that would exploit anything to retain power and the money that comes with it. They've been claiming Obama is a Muslim. IN ONE CASE the person that orchestrated one of these email campaigns PUBLICLY STATED that "I know he's not a Muslim, but I am a very comfortable liar when it comes to keeping a black man from becoming president. I'll do anything, say anything, and lie until the cows come home to make sure that only white men are in the White House."

So, I'd say this mailer is a good thing.

Posted by: Arlo | May 18, 2008 2:39:03 PM

Save this country and write in
Hillary Clinton on election days.

Obama and McCain just don't get it.....
this country needs Hillary's strength and leadership.

Posted by: Linda R. in Woodbridge, VA | May 18, 2008 2:39:01 PM

OBAMA SUPPORTERS.....Read Obama's books, both of them starting with "Dreams from My Father". Just see if you can't detect "anti-white feelings" from this Obama. He harps on the black issues and forgets he's also partly white. He is a racist. Read his books. Now hee says whatever he things voters want to hear, like a politican. Hamas and all the Middle East will be dancing in the streets as they were 9/ll if he is elected.

Posted by: Mary Nugget | May 18, 2008 2:38:27 PM

Hillary, Hillary, go away
Don't come back some other day
Barack Obama is here to say
Hillary, Hillary, go away.

Posted by: Kentucky | May 18, 2008 2:37:14 PM

Shay, not to anti - Clinton, but Hillary is more left than Obama on many issues and Obama welcomes crossover Republicans with open arms. Barack is with mainstream America.

Posted by: JP | May 18, 2008 2:36:44 PM

The proof that the media is right wing is found in how one must search to find information about what a hypocritical crook McCain is. He's been influence peddling since he became a Senator; just look up Keating five. And if you want to see more recent evidence look up McCain land swap, where he gave away develop able federal land on a swap for unusable scrub. Isn't a man who dumps an invalid wife for a pretty, younger, rich one something of a scum bag? At least for people with morals he is.

Posted by: Javalation | May 18, 2008 2:36:33 PM

The first link to the flyer in your blog takes you to a right wing blog. Why can't you just get a copy of the flyer and post it in your blog? Come on what about the left wing media bias?

Posted by: charlie34 | May 18, 2008 2:36:18 PM

First, this pamphlet about religion has been around since February. I have volunteered for the campaign and seen it in New York and Pennsylvania - so it's not new. And, it's obviously needed to combat the misinformation that's out there about Obama's faith. (15% think he's muslim?? - even after Rev. Wright???)

Second, Rabin Deka (who posted at May 18, 2008 1:57:18 PM) must never have put his or her money where his mouth is, because if you did, you would know that you MUST be a US citizen to donate to the presidential election.

STOP with the attempts to smear him! It's either ignorance or maliciousness, but either way it's wrong.

We are all US citizens who are donating to presidential campaigns - even (or perhaps especially) OBAMA! Go Barack! POTUS 44

Posted by: mary | May 18, 2008 2:35:26 PM

"Remember, many people vote based on an emotional connection to a candidate or if they can relate to that person."

Senator Obama's entire campaign has been about emotional connection. The KY flyer is one of many examples of this. He is a master at using distraction,
playing the victim, and evoking emotional support to mask his shortcomings.

Look at the Rev. Wright controversy. How did he combat that? By delivering an eloquent speech on racism. People swallowed it hook, line and sinker. But the issue was not racism. The issues were his spiritual beliefs--Black Liberation Theology which includes both religious and political agendas, and his giving conflicting responses when confronted with the Rev. Wright controversy.

Following his poor performance in the PA debate he used theatrical gestures, brushing his shoulders off to illustrate he felt he was attacked but able to brush it off. People couldn't get enough of it, completely willing to overlook the fact that he was unable/unwilling to give concise, meaningful answers to so many of the questions that addressed his judgment and character during the debate.

I am outraged by the KY flyer and disappointed to see so many Americans voting with their hearts rather than their heads.

Posted by: LindaJ | May 18, 2008 2:34:33 PM

A lot of christians support abortion including myself.

Posted by: erin | May 18, 2008 2:34:28 PM

Don't put down the people in KY because they will vote for Hillary..Obama supporters are not that smart..They are as ignorant as the rest of Americans..our educational system sucks..

Posted by: AC | May 18, 2008 2:33:05 PM

Senator Obama is a Christian.

I hope and trust that you will allow him to express his freedom of religion..as he will certainly strive to protect your freedom of religion.

Posted by: toothchipper55 | May 18, 2008 2:32:03 PM

Big people talk about ideas, little people talk about other people....

Posted by: jozy | May 18, 2008 2:31:32 PM

"GET REAL PEOPLE!!!

AFRICAN AMERICANS HAVE VOTED FOR WHITE DEMOCRATS DECADE AFTER DECADE.

Why accuse them for racism for voting for Obama this time?"

Kelly, my deepest appreciation for unmasking this country's socio-political myopia.

Posted by: Diana | May 18, 2008 2:30:21 PM

Obama claims faith and that he is christain.....yet he supports abortion and would appoint judges that would uphold abortion laws.

You cannot be christain and agree with the mutilation murder of babies.