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Official Transcript: Kantor Never Impugned Hoosiers

May 02, 2008 6:18 PM

Forgoing for a moment the dirty trick of the doctored clip from “The War Room,” which falsely had Mickey Kantor using a racial slur, the filmmaker behind the documentary has posted the clip on his Web site to clarify that other point of confusion -- what Kantor was referring to when he cursed. (An apparent source of confusion since the movie came out and some newspaper writers thought he was cursing Indianans. See previous post for that.)

Filmmakers Chris Hegedus and D A Pennebaker write: "We would like to respond to some erroneous statements made today about our film, THE WAR ROOM. These statements alleged certain remarks to Mickey Kantor that simply are not true. The transcript of the scene in question confirms this."

The official transcript:

GEORGE AND CARVILLE: Indiana, we're ahead.

JACQUELINE: Indiana!

GEORGE: Kentucky.

CARVILLE: Kentucky is five. Michigan is eleven, New York's done.

GEORGE: Holy s---, we're pulling away in Ohio.

CARVILLE: Oklahoma we're up.

GEORGE: Tied in Texas.

CARVILLE: Tied in Texas. It looks good. Now let's just say that. I like the text here.

GEORGE: Can you beep Wendy please? Looks pretty good. Looks pretty good.

MICKEY KANTOR: Look at Indiana. Wait, wait. Look at Indiana. Forty-two, forty. It doesn't matter if we win. Those people are s----ing (oh, excuse me) in the White House. How would you like to be... Look at Texas, go down to Texas.

CARVILLE: Even.

MICKEY: Yeah. Thirty-nine, thirty-nine.

CARVILLE: Perot's kind of holding, isn't he?

GEORGE: He held.

MICKEY: Yeah, he held. His numbers held. I'm sort of surprised, frankly.

***

So Kantor was NOT insulting Hoosiers, he was experiencing a moment of schadenfreude about the Bush (Sr.) White House.

Check it out HERE.

Now back to that other question -- who did the fake clip with Kantor saying the N word?!

It's the definition of a dirty trick -- and from what I can tell all the YouTube links have disappeared. Fingerprints gone.

- jpt

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Reading these comments it is clear that we still have a race problem in this country. It is truly sad how the media has continued to keep this thing alive by attacking Senator Obama. What is even sadder is that many Americans are too ignorant or simply too racist to see through it.

I can't believe that when this video came out it wasn't plastered all over the airwaves like the Rev. Wright video. Doctored or not, nobody questioned the authenticity of the Wright video before airing it many times a day.

Its pretty obvious to me that "news" organizations have the same agenda as old Rush.

Posted by: Dan | May 7, 2008 1:37:47 AM

Reading these comments I've learned that Obama supporters are BITTER and cling to their "hope" to unify the country and change the whole wide world by being remarkably snarky and somewhat delusional.I find it almost IMPOSSIBLE to believe that if the "enhanced" dialouge had actually appeared in the War Room that the vast right wing conspiracy Clinton haters wouldn't have picked it up and broadcast it from the rooftops a DECADE ago.Call me incredulous.It's the audacity of get over yourselves

Posted by: Ree Van Vleck | May 6, 2008 5:24:12 AM

Even when the press claims to take the "high road" they won't even focus on the "issues" because it doesn't fit their political agenda. How about exposing Kantor for the WTO lobbyist that he is. I think we can all see what Clinton's stance is on outsourcing.

How about these facts:

An advocate of free trade, Kantor, as Trade Representative, lead U.S. negotiations that created the World Trade Organization (WTO), such as the Uruguay Round, and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). He also engaged in organizating the Miami Summit of the Americas and three meetings of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, including the U.S.-hosted First Leaders' Meeting. With the European Commission of the newly formed European Union, he expanded the trans-Atlantic market.

Posted by: Henry | May 5, 2008 3:07:13 PM

Who would have thought that in this day and age with all that has passed and with hope for change on the horizon that we will all be back to politics as usual as soon as the supers put their stamp on this thing? Another Reconstruction failed. Sad...just plain sad.

Posted by: Hank | May 5, 2008 12:39:09 AM

I get a kick out of all of you who ASSUME this video is a fake just because the networks aren't giving it air time.

I didn't see any of you questioning the authenticity of the Wright video when FOX and CNN played it over and over to buy their candidate some cred.

'Furthermore, the director of The War Room, D.A. Pennebaker, also says the clip was doctored, but added as an update to that Politico piece, they say they spoke to the editor of the video who said that he "enhanced, BUT DIDN'T ALTER, the audio in the second portion of the video."'

UH, OH!!!

Posted by: dave | May 5, 2008 12:05:57 AM

Libby,

I know you represent the typical racist Clinton supporter. Clinton has been fueling the flames of hate with her appeals to "blue collar" dems. We all know that she and Bill really mean bigoted, ignorant, economically challenged white dems.

I hope you enjoy your "white pride" candidate after the supers put their stamp on it.

We'll all continue to suffer when McCain steps into the White House.

Posted by: dave | May 4, 2008 11:57:14 PM

I favor severely punishing the oil companies with excess profits taxes (any profit is excess)for two reasons:

1. America has too much oil and gasoline
2. People who have oil companies in their 401Ks deserve the hit.

Posted by: M. Simon | May 4, 2008 7:20:05 PM

@Kirk. That's the same interpretation. He was talking about the pollsters. Bush had pollsters. Each campaign has pollsters. The Clintons had Greenberg, and the Bushes? This Black guy. That's the guy they say must be "sh--ing."

I won't speculate where it came from. I hope not indirectly from Obama's camp. Maybe Drudge? Politico? Could it be Republicans, trying to spread ill will among Democrats? Who knows? I wish our media wouldn't fall for any story that doesn't explain the context. They fell for the phony "Dean scream" story four years ago, remember? A week after they play patty-cake with the story, somebody -- maybe it was Nightline, back when it had a conscience -- showed us how it was a microphone that eliminated all the screams of the audience and made Dean's screams sound crazy.
Maybe we should go back to the old regime: networks can't make money out of news, but if they don't put on enough high-quality news, they lose their licenses?

Posted by: jim H | May 4, 2008 4:55:24 AM

Yup, Change You Can Believe In.
Indeed.

Posted by: dyer | May 4, 2008 12:16:39 AM

Kantor didn't slur Indiana. It's CARVILLE that thinks Democratic voters are stupid... Carville alone is enough to keep me from supporting Hillary.

Posted by: Demetrius | May 3, 2008 11:53:47 PM

Race card? Check
Dirty tricks? Check
Insane supporters? Check
Viral spread w/o fact-checking? Check

Yup, same old drama from Obama.

His mere presence elevates this election season. Except, you know, NOT.

Posted by: EV | May 3, 2008 9:35:11 PM

This is not the Obama camp playing the race card. This is the Republicans trying to break the Democratic party apart. Helloooo?

Democrats Unite!
Obama 08

Posted by: noemi in los angeles | May 3, 2008 9:08:03 PM

Plain and simple--the alleged transcript you printed CLEARLY does not match the video. The word worthless is plain and audible but does not appear in the text provided.

Why are you people taking their word for this when even a little digging would unveil at least part of the lies?

Posted by: Roger Deem | May 3, 2008 6:35:08 PM

Obama has played the race card from day one.

Posted by: brent22202 | May 3, 2008 3:10:58 PM

This is trash. But I am more troubled by the declaration of someone's interpretation of a not so clear audio recording as "official transcript". Jake, do you have a dog in this fight?

Posted by: Independent Guy | May 3, 2008 2:07:37 PM

I have a hard time believing that it's Hillary supporters and not the usual Freepers that are spamming every mention of this story with allegations that the Obama campaign was somehow involved. It's been a tough fight but we're all Dems and the Dems I know aren't like that. This is a NON-story and a distraction. What we've learned is that people are easily tricked by video. I saw it Friday morning and thought "I can't believe he said that". I can even admit the darker parts of my soul hoped that Hillary would be harmed because I'm just so eager to get the attention on neocon John. But this stuff is just the kind of guilt by association garbage that's preventing us from facing our nation's real challenges. Within a few hours, anyway, it was exposed as doctored video. The only thing I'm left wondering about is the ellipsis in the transcript, but this is not an important issue and it barely deserves mentioning.

Posted by: Jeremy | May 3, 2008 1:42:22 PM

I suppose the media thinks we are all so stupid as to believe the Clinton spin department. Who are you going to believe, the spin doctors or your own eyes and ears?

THE STANDARD DEFENSE LINE FROM EVERY SCOUNDREL IS "WHAT I SAID WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT".

Posted by: Tom Shea | May 3, 2008 12:01:04 PM

I want to thank Bush for my tax rebate check. I am endorsing it over to Obama immediately. That will be the surest and most effective way to improve the economy, Iraq, and health care.

Posted by: clary3 | May 3, 2008 11:05:48 AM

I'm sure some Obamabot did this, thinking it would change the subject. It didn't--it just highlights the obvious: Obama is not ushering in a new sort of politics. He and his followers are more of the same. They are not transcending our divisions, but exacerbating them.
Obama's left-wing voting record, bitter/cling comments and wacky pastor have totally alienated the right, so he is particularly ill-suited to deliver on a promise of post-partisan politics.
Someone remind me please--what does he really stand for and how specifically will he effect change?

Posted by: NJH | May 3, 2008 10:57:45 AM

To Dave:

Do you represent the typical Obama supporter?? You still insist it is true when everyone under the sun, including people who have run the video through forensic accoustics, have confirmed that the second clip was doctored.

WOW you are way out there in orbit.

Posted by: libby | May 3, 2008 10:20:20 AM

Julie writes, "Good grief, this happened 15 years ago. How on earth is he supposed to remember every detail of what was an unbelievably exciting night?"

===========================

Because most intelligent people tend to remember the details on UNBELIEVABLY exciting nights. The average Republican might find this challenging but an individual like Kantor? Please..spare us the silliness.

Posted by: Dems | May 3, 2008 9:26:37 AM

I have no question in my mind that I heard “those people are sh**”

Posted by: Lisa | May 3, 2008 8:28:27 AM

media control

Posted by: Lisa | May 3, 2008 8:20:37 AM

karen for clinton,
be sure not to forget kalem el-hady the bho fundraiser, on his official web site, who was the head of an islamic charity, kindhearts, in chicago that was closed by the feds in 2006 for funneling money to hamas and el-qada, among others...

Posted by: pp | May 3, 2008 8:00:42 AM

"Official Transcript" Huh? The film was made by a Clinton supporters. Oh, I get it. You mean "Official" wink, wink.

Posted by: Dave | May 3, 2008 6:38:45 AM

Tom,

I could use about $109 million.

Posted by: hank | May 3, 2008 6:25:00 AM

hoosiersue,
you are right, who is this guy?? what i can remember is he has muslim parents; a cousin who is part of a tribe in kenya that has killed scores of people in tribal conflicts; he is still a citizen of kenya; he grew up with his white family yet chose to focus on his black lineage, and a father who left him; embraced his blackness in his books, denouncing whiteness; has ties to reznik; ties to two terrorists that introduced him to his wife, held his senate announcement party and sat on numerous boards , ayers and dorhn; has kalem el-hady as a fundraiser on his official website who was the head of an islamic charity, kindheart, that was closed down in 2006 by the feds because they funneled money to hamas and al-quada to name a few; is known to have specific ties to hamas and the palestinians; attends his african/black centered church; has a wife who does not approve of her country; etc., etc...

who is this man???very poor job of vetting. if someone had considered him for vp, the vetting process would have ruled him out!!!

Posted by: pp | May 3, 2008 5:18:45 AM

So the "new kind of politics" is just an update of the old down and dirty Chicago politics that Obama cut his teeth on. It doesn't stop there...

Obama has been out-and-out lying on Clinton's position on the gas tax holiday. Saying she doesn't pay for it (which he knows she does with a windfall profits tax on the oil companies). Then chides it as the "same old Washington politics" that isn't a real solution, but is rather political pandering. Then promotes his own plan of a windfall profits tax and pursuing alternative fuels. Problem is Clinton has been saying that for weeks as part of her oil plan (plus more).

Obama is a lying low-down loser - and I hope Indiana and North Carolina have sense enough to send him packing back to Rev. Wright (who can then throw him under the bus as the black community cheers to see this traitor go).

For those interested, Sunday night on "Hannity's America" on Fox, you can learn about Trinity Church's Black Liberation Theology. I thought I knew all about it, but there's one thing I didn't know. It's based on Marxist principles, and guess who's mother was a Marxist? Ding, ding, ding! That's Right! Barack Obama.

Who the h*ll is this guy? And do we really want to take a chance on planting him in the White House?

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 3, 2008 4:55:33 AM

"pledged" IS a word.

Posted by: Chuck | May 3, 2008 4:07:08 AM

Fabricated dirt sticks to the opponent rather than the intended victim.

People will justifiably think that Obama supporters concocted this disgusting, race-baiting story.

"Just like last time."

Posted by: EV | May 3, 2008 3:35:14 AM

obamabots posted all over the net saying this was true. it was so obviously not true. now there's evidence it's not true. will the obamabots change their tune? will the obamabots apologize? will the obamabots correct the record?

all questions rhetorical, of course. we know that the obamabots knew it was a lie all along and posted it everywhere anyway. and they won't stop. the pattern is clear and obvious to all.

funny thing is, the more they post this kind of nonsense, the less credibility they have. i was reading an indiana article with comments and they posted this over and over and over and over. naturally, people just ignored them. that's what happens to misbehaving children.

Posted by: so saddened | May 3, 2008 1:51:30 AM

Eric......

It was Drudge who started the video.

As the sheep they are, DailyKos and Huffington Post ran with the video urging each other on to post the video and link to it everywhere so the MSM picks up on the story.

Sad, but true.

Kos and HuffnPuff got bought by Drudge Report. Arianna is now able to speak clearly and intelligently without that annoying accent she cannot seem to throw. Kos, still bitter he took the worm.

Posted by: Tammy | May 3, 2008 1:34:52 AM

Chaz

As a brilliant Obamabot you should know there is no such word as:

"interprete"

At least, it is now clear you are not the genius behind the Obama campaign altering videos and bringing race baiting back into the primary.

Posted by: Jamie | May 3, 2008 1:32:02 AM

We DO know that it was Obama supporters and that the Obama camp was silently pushing this video. Nice way to change politics guys...

Posted by: Eric | May 3, 2008 1:17:27 AM

This is not the clip I heard about Indiana people are S===t. Is Way much different.
Why you are hidden the truth?

Posted by: bos123 | May 3, 2008 1:12:07 AM

thats a generous transcript, i dont here"s----ing (oh, excuse me) in the White House"

This is karma, he cut himself of so now we can interprete it any way we want

Posted by: chaz | May 3, 2008 1:02:53 AM

Hmmm, primary must be coming up 'cause there goes the race-baiting again. Shame of those who ran the story without fact checking (Keith O. I'm talking to you). Whatever happened to integrity and ethics? New Politics? Doesn't sound like it to me. I'll take my chances with McCain.

Posted by: ttbv | May 3, 2008 1:00:58 AM

i know some of you are new to politics but there were 3 candidates in that presidential election. the reason kantor was so shocked is because the numbers shouldn't even have been that close.

Posted by: jesse | May 3, 2008 12:54:15 AM

Hoodwink Bamboozle Okey Doke Obama the divider. I will never vote for the fraud racist never proud to be an American wife of his NEVER vote for her be first lady. HE is a racist fraud and so is she.

Posted by: ricksramblings | May 3, 2008 12:49:35 AM

Omentum:

Obama to the Wright House

Clinton to the White House

Posted by: Jayhawk | May 3, 2008 12:38:52 AM

If George Allen's entire career and presidential hopes can be crushed by uttering one word, "ma--ca", how is it that Obama is still in this campaign, with all the hateful, bitter, racist and anti-semitic rantings coming out of his campaign? Plus, look at the body count under the bus. Obama seems to be showing a somewhat sociopathic kind of teflon - not really a good thing for a president.

Posted by: rs | May 2, 2008 10:22:39 PM

Sorry guys, the video don't lie. Why was Kantor lowering his voice if what he said was Okay?

Posted by: dave in Seattle | May 2, 2008 9:50:12 PM

I couldn't hear the words but I could read his lips as George Bush once said. I am not buying that some "transcript" suddenly appears and reveals the truth. Who has a "transcript" of a war room event anyway?

One thing the video does prove is that George Stephanopoulos is OWNED by the Clntons. Talk about loyalties. That takes me back to the very, very controversial debate before the Pennsylvania primary. I really can't call it a debate, it was a shameless personal attack period.

If Hillary gets the nomination it will be because the media interjected itself in this election. They left objective reporting behind a long time ago for the sake of ratings and now for the sake of political favors promised by the Clinton machine. I'm sure George Hippopotamus was promised all the EXCLUSIVE interviews he would ever want.

Posted by: Get Real | May 2, 2008 9:49:13 PM


ERIC:
"People who don't want Obama to win fear change".... like having the Oval Office over run with the likes of Raila Odinga, (whose tagline also is "Your Agent of Change"), Auchi, Reverand Meeks, Rashid Khalidi, Farrakhan, William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn,some of his Hamas contacts... and eventually, of course, Pastor Wright!

"They are accustomed to having things remain the same "..... like having people in ALL states participate in the election of their party's nominee.

But they also look forward to health care which covers EVERYONE, along with viable solutions to improve both our economic problems and our global problems.

Thata's why we need a STRONG, BRILLIANT nominee to get us through these next difficult years..... and we are lucky to have one.

Her name is Hillary, and I approve of this message!

Posted by: eyes extremely wide open | May 2, 2008 9:48:25 PM

Did anyone catch Lawrence O'Donnel suggest that someone from the clinton camp set up the Rev. Wright speech at the News club meeting? Obamaniac's are getting a little nervous now and will imply anything, no matter how ridiculous.

Posted by: oliver | May 2, 2008 9:41:51 PM

Andrew Sullivan didn't write the review, Desson Howe did, back in 1993.

Posted by: tags | May 2, 2008 9:30:38 PM

Campbell Scott on CNN just exposed the Obama campaign for this dirty campaign trick!!!

Posted by: sherr | May 2, 2008 9:25:37 PM

There is a link on Andrew Sullivan's Website to a 1993 review of the "War Room" in the Washingon Post. The reviewer mentions that Kantor makes a comment about the people of Indiana.

Posted by: tags | May 2, 2008 9:20:37 PM

OK who is telling the truth here Kantor or the guy who made the movie? Two different stories -----

Kantor today told the Huffington Post that he "was talking about the polling and not the people." The film’s director, D.A. Pennebaker, said in an interview with the Politico that, "he says they must be s—ing in the White House."

Posted by: Oscar Meyer | May 2, 2008 9:17:50 PM

The obomaniacs are out in full force tonight... "borrowing" the names of Clinton followers and slipping unwanted words into their posts.


This, of course is understandable; these people would LIKE to slip their limited knowledge into your brains,
and make sure that a "C" magically becomes an "O" when you take your ballot into the voting room.

But no one has the right to steal your name.... or your vote! And B O is all to willing to abide by the disenfranchising of the vote to T W O
statesful of Americans!

The Constitution is more powerful than the DNC!

Thata's just ONE of the reasons I'm going to be voting for Hillary!

Posted by: questioner | May 2, 2008 9:16:56 PM

Hope they nail the guy who did it...big time. 99.99% chance it's an Obama Moonie.

Posted by: Jann | May 2, 2008 9:15:26 PM

AxelRove is up to his dirty tricks again. That was obviously put out by the Mr. Hope campaign. He's going to lose his neighboring state, Indiana. They were trying to stop the bleeding. It failed MISERABLY. Their dirty tricks may have worked after NH and during SC, but people are onto them now. Right before every Primary something nasty comes out attacking Hillary's campaign. Hmmmm....who on EARTH is doing that? We're not stupid, Mr. Hope. We know what you're doing and the voters now see right through you and your fake "positive" campaign.

Posted by: Vickie | May 2, 2008 9:14:04 PM


Frankly, belonging to a hate cult
for 20 years should disqualify
you from serving in office,
apparently it leads to these smear campaigns...

Vote Hillary 08!!

Posted by: rutherford | May 2, 2008 9:13:49 PM

Truth hurts, indeed...

Posted by: raf | May 2, 2008 9:04:54 PM

Why was DailyKos urging its supporters to push this false and malicious video?

We know they are in the tank for Obama but don't they check facts?

Guess not.

Appears Huffington Post did the same.

Talk about "rush to war" !

Posted by: Peter | May 2, 2008 9:01:48 PM

umm....Clinton losing Indiana *period* was the point. Apparently Kantor didn't like that or the people who voted that way too much.

Posted by: questioner | May 2, 2008 9:00:31 PM

People referring to the fact that Clinton was in fact losing in Indiana...he was within 2 points! margin of error, in other words. That would be a big deal to have those numbers in a consistently Republican state.

Posted by: ClareA | May 2, 2008 8:53:09 PM

oscar meyer:
you're full of spam.

Barack Obama:
you're full of Beans!

Michelle Obama"" you got an earmark
from BO's Pork!

Jeremiah Wright: BO benefitted from
headlines donated to your false fight; HIS Perk!

Spam, Beans, Pork, Unwarranted Perk...
Yup, that pretty much describes B O!


Posted by: questioner | May 2, 2008 8:49:30 PM

Obama and his supporters have been manufacturing these smear campaigns for months.
I used to think the right wingers were real dirtbags, but the Obama campaign and his supporters are way worse.
There's going to be a whole lot of movement away from the Democratic party due to what Obama and his supporters are doing.
I'm re-registering as an Independent because of all of this.

Posted by: OxyCon | May 2, 2008 8:47:47 PM

Upon watching more of the clip cited below, when Kantor is saying it's 42-40 in Indiana (4:43), Clinton seems to actually be the one with 40 (i.e., the one losing)--hence the statement that Indiana people are "sh*t."

Please see the zoom-in on the paper at 5:39 in this very same video:

(find this by searching for War Room 9 on You Tube)

In bright red marker it clearly says "IN -2," whereas on the rest of the list, if Clinton is ahead, it says, for example, "KY +2." Please check this out yourselves--it's right in the video.

Posted by: questioner | May 2, 2008 8:43:49 PM

Kantor said "We don't need them. These people are sh*t" because CLINTON WAS LOSING INDIANA!! Wake up, people. I agree that the video containing the racial slur is highly suspect, but Kantor clearly said "These people are sh*t." This is clearly an old pattern for the Clinton machine--lose a state, denigrate.

Posted by: questioner | May 2, 2008 8:41:33 PM

He said "sh*tting," and he was not referring to the pollsters, but to the incumbent administration. Why is the story changing if he has nothing to hide?]]


What's IMPORTANT Julie, is that he was NOT referring to the people in Indiana!

Posted by: DMK | May 2, 2008 8:32:35 PM

Thats it. I am voting Communist.

STOP!

Stop and think!

Quit yelling at each other, take a moment, and think.

This does NOT benefit Hillary.
It does NOT benefit Obama.

IT ONLY BENEFITS THE REPUBLICANS!

Think!

This is what they want. Fake or not does anyone really believe this is not timed? That just happened to pop up right before the primary?

Think!

Stop fighting with each other. In the end Hilary or Obama it doesn't matter as much (it matters, but not as much) as a Democrat winning! And you people are making sure that does not happen! Unless we work together its 8 more years of Republicans.

At this point McCain only has to do 1 thing to win. Not die. That is it.

Stop fighting and start working together. This only benefits the Republicans. How hard is it to see that?

Posted by: Chris | May 2, 2008 8:29:38 PM

[[Just this morning, Kantor told the Huffington Post that he was referring to the pollsters, not the people of Indiana. Now the story has changed. He said "sh*tting," and he was not referring to the pollsters, but to the incumbent administration. Why is the story changing if he has nothing to hide?]]

Good grief, this happened 15 years ago. How on earth is he supposed to remember every detail of what was an unbelievably exciting night?

Or can you just not stand to have it not be true?

Posted by: Julie | May 2, 2008 8:23:35 PM

I like the "who benefits" comment. I already heard from people who watched The War Room on DVD to verify if the You Tube video came from it. I watched the clip and said: fake.

It is truly sad to read so many comments blaming Obama for this and saying "his camp plays the race card".

Gloria Steinem played the race card. Bill Clinton played (and is still) the race card. Ferraro played the race card. The press plays the race card. Only white people get to accuse black people of playing the race card. Shows their superiority mentality.

That ya all are accusing and his "camp" of something he and they never did, says more about ya all then about them.

Yeah, Obama supporters seemed to fall for the clip hook, line and sinker. Much the same as everyone else has fallen hook, line and sinker for the lies they repeat in comments. The media needs to grow up and maybe the 'net set will too.

Posted by: mary | May 2, 2008 8:23:14 PM

First Hillary goes on O'Reilly and says as clear as day - “Rich people, God bless us;”

Then the Clinton loyalist Kantor is on video undisputably calling the people of Indiana “sh*t”;

Then the Clinton campaign has the gall to tell the entire nation that we didn’t hear it right - even though I’ve watched these clips fifty times and believe me, I heard them right.

Well, Senator Clinton, when I and every other Hoosier go vote on Tuesday, don’t expect us to stay focused on your gas tax gimmick and forget that we’re all “sh*t.”

Posted by: Luke Hansen | May 2, 2008 8:23:12 PM

All you need do is follow the Clinton money all the way back to Arkansas, then forward, thru' the Rose firm's handling HRC's hedge & short investment bets against the drug & insurance companies that were expected to lose value when she had a healthcare force, to the Wongs, from the Aristides, the Lincoln bedroom income. Didn't the Clintons also try to abscond with WH artifacts? Obama's lies are not as overt, blatant, or unethical as Clinton's. Just look at the negative components in each candidate's polls. Obama's got his, surely, and usually paramount is the dim view the public takes of her on the honesty issue. I mean confabulating you had to avoid sniper fire is a bit more "colorful" a lie than the Obama's self-inflicted "lie by omission" that would have us believe that he was cool, because he was so much a "man of faith," when he probably really wasn't that much into that church. For them to have donated a mere $20 thou of their money surely doesn't meet the "Christian" 10% tithe. I'm surely not begrudging his lack of religion or faith, but he should have renounced the father-figure narcissus-preacher the day he decided to run for president. When all the dust, including this fake (if it doesn't jibe with the transcript) U-tube settles, the world will be better place under an Obama tenure of eight years. But if Hillary wins, I'll have to vote for the little hedge-betting, short-seller.

Posted by: James | May 2, 2008 8:22:25 PM

jake,

you owe Kantor... AND Clinton an apology!


as for Obama, you owe him a "nuggie"!

Posted by: eyes wide open | May 2, 2008 8:17:31 PM

Where are all those Obamabots that kept posting a link to the doctored clip earlier on NOW?? Where are they? Shame on you ALL! Woe on all those uncommitted superdelegates who vote for Obama.

Posted by: DMK | May 2, 2008 8:14:35 PM

People--come on!! Wake up! Clinton was actually DOWN 2 in Indiana--NOT winning at all. In fact, he lost the state to Bush in 1992. This is why Kantor is saying "We don't need them, they're sh*t." So no matter what the official transcript says, I would guess that the filmmaker is "officially" covering Kantor's behind.

Posted by: questioner | May 2, 2008 8:14:31 PM

The Obama campaign is desperate in how to defeat HRC, just as the Republicans will be in the fall. They get all the help possible from the media and still can't win.

Keep pounding the Clintons, both of them.

They can take anything thrown at them! They are tough, intelligent, adroit, confident, and the only Democrats proven capable of beating the Republican attack machines.

That is why Bill clinton is the only two term elected Democratic President since FDR. That is why after being impeached by a Republican congress, he still governed excellently and left office with a 65% approval rating from the American people.

It is also why Hillary Clinton is the only real choice for the Democratic Party to win with now. She, like Bill, has taken an undeserved beating for more than 16 years; never folded, never quit!

So, to one and all, I say go for it. Hammer away! you only reinforce them and we who support them. We are also inured to the attacks upon them.

Posted by: MC | May 2, 2008 8:10:36 PM

Proud American - who cares! We're still voting for Hillary here in Indiana!

Posted by: rockthebleachers | May 2, 2008 8:08:11 PM

justsaying,

Sorry. It gets confusing here. I thought you had called me blue collar, uneducated, old, arrogant and disgusting. LOL And that was in response to my positng that the right to vote is a personal, constitutional right. Go figure. LOL I think by Firday evening people are kind of punchy.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 2, 2008 8:05:08 PM

Looks to me like another Rathergate-style plant. Possibly from the Obama camp, but more likely from Hillary's side, and even more likely from Rove, who thinks he knows how to beat Hillary, but hasn't a clue how to be Obama -- except by tricks such as this. Easily denied, easy to pin on Obama, and Hillary walks away clean.

Posted by: John from NC | May 2, 2008 8:05:01 PM

Let's see where we are, shall we? In the last few days, Obama's campaign has called a voter registration effort by a well-known bipartisan group voter suppression, circulated a petition trying to split the party along racial lines, and are now pushing a doctored video clip to take Hillary down. This is Obama's campaign of Hope and Change. Welcome to Obama's New Washington. Can't wait to see what bizarre accusations against Hillary tomorrow brings.

Posted by: rs | May 2, 2008 8:03:09 PM

I am a video director and I am here to tell abc news they are lyeing I studied the tape and its nothing compared to your transcript MICKEY KANTOR did say those slurs, the tape was slowed and broke down for study and voice recognition verified!! please stop lyeing to the american people!!

Posted by: proud american | May 2, 2008 8:02:53 PM

Ok I am going to try this again.


Who benefits from this?

Hillary Does Not Benefit.

Obama Does Not Benefit.

The Republican Party Does! More dissension. More hate. More Democrats at each others throats.

And you are all just giving them what they want.

Some low level Republicans got the idea to do this because they knew both sides of the Democratic camp would go bonkers and try to kill each other! And guess what, it worked!

Stop fighting. Stop whining. Get together and make this work or we get 8 more years of Republican rule!

Posted by: Chris | May 2, 2008 7:57:29 PM

The Clinton supporter will put every single thing they can on Obama, if Obama was as nasty as Hillary, he could have found many, many, factual things to come out against her. So you should think about what you are talking about before you make your assumptions.

He has demonstrated that he is a man of integrity. Now, people say he is trying to be better thatn the rest of the candidates, I wonder how you come to that conclusion. He is an honest person, many Americans can't stand honesty can you, it is evident because when Bill Clinton cheated on his wife, it was acceptable, even though he looked into those camera pointed his finger and declared he did not have sex with that woman, then he lied under oath and was convicted of perjury, impeached and disbarred. None of that mattered to millions of Americans and now that we see someone doing their best to tell the American people the truth, he gets attacked for being honest. Personally, I will be happy when this *hit is over and we all can go back to being the racist, immoral society, terriost, fighting for oil as MCCain himself said today, and go on with our pitful lives.

Posted by: Angel | May 2, 2008 7:56:02 PM

the official (approved?) transcript vs. the real tape with clarified audio.

Think back to a nasty 92 race. Papa George more or less calling Hubby Bill white trash. Hoosier Dan not so easily delivering the home state. Giddy Mickey on victory day with 42-40 Indy exits in hand gushes: "Those people are sh*t- (sees camera) excuse me, -ing in the white house... how would you like to be (whispers) a worthless white ni**er" to Georgie boy.

In other words: slick politico Kantor slamming vp Quayle for helping lose the white house to Bubba Clinton.

Posted by: notapproved | May 2, 2008 7:54:29 PM

This expose' might be the best thing yet that will be in favor of Clinton. This will show what obama is really like and how he is absolutely a fake and lying to smear Clinton. When this all comes out, thanks to the obama puppets, this should make obama's numbers come down by a few more points. Continue to put stuff like this out there puppets so that everyone will know how phony and what really dirty tricks obama will play to win the nomination so he can put his ANTI-AMERICAN pals into his cabinet.

Posted by: Lou | May 2, 2008 7:54:07 PM

James Carville and George Stephanopoulos really have some explaining to do.

Posted by: Lisa | May 2, 2008 7:53:41 PM

CNN Campbell Brown is going to have the doctored video on at 8PM. I am surprised. You sure will not see it on Olbermann.

Posted by: Tina from Florida | May 2, 2008 7:52:43 PM