Recount in Guam?

A caucus is run and paid for by the party and as such is much more likely to be controlled by partisan interests.

Someone decided to stop the vote count with 500 ballots left to count and declare an Obama victory by 7 votes.

No who thinks that person might be an Obama supporter?? Gee I wonder.

No state run primary would do that. Caucuses are undemocratic ballot or no ballot. Hopefully the Secretary of State, or equivalent, for Guam intervenes and refuses to certify the results without counting all the ballots.

Count all the votes then declare a victor. It's called democray. The Obama camp nor the MSM seem to be interested much in that concept.

I know they had been up all night counting votes and all but isn't it just a little funny that in the precint Hillary was winning by a 60-40 split they didn't count 500 votes and then an Obama win by seven votes gets reported to the media.

There are still 500 votes to count. Sounds like the Obama camp has committed fraud at yet another caucus.

Certainly the 500 votes yet to be counted will be next week and Clinton will win, by about 100 votes given her margin in the precint they decided not to count fully.

The pledged delegate count will be the same but the chair and the vice chair may not be.

This is getting out of hand honest ,the hate in here, the lies in here it is far from what thiscountry needs right now.

Guam is the trend, and Indiana and North Carolina the end. John McCain has alread lost. Hail our new Messiah and President, Barack Obama, who has been sent by God, to save the US and the free world and to deliver us from evil, and to make our nation and the world into one, free from racial, ethnic, religious and national divide. Say "Yes We Can" to join with your voices, a movement, a nation, and a world. Lord God, our father, thank you for your son, born amongst us, to unite all of us under one banner. Rise O Barcak Obama, son of god, and free us from all evil. Hallelujah! Amen!

Hillary has proven to be a fighter, and that is what we need to lead the country. Obama advisors have played every card in the deck, and the Chickens are coming home to roast.

Since when does a caucus have ballots? What's the deal here folks?

Of course there will be a recount and provisional ballots will have to be examined. 500 votes is a lot and it is important for the chair and vice chair position.

For all of you contesting the results in caucus states as illegitimate because Obama won them - this is simply ridiculous. Hillary has won caucuses, too. What about New Hampshire? Was that win a result of Obama's "bullying" tactics?

The reason Obama has won so many more caucuses is that he has CONTESTED those states. There were many of those smaller states (especially in February) where Clinton did not even establish field offices. The fact that Obama campaigned in those places explains his ability to win much more logically than some devious plot.

As for the Texas caucus v. primary: there have been many, many charges of "intimidation" on both sides. None have been legally actionable, at least to date. Those that have been most frequently reported happened on the Clinton side. Clinton herself admitted that she did not understand the caucus process there, and her campaign filed pre-emptive legal papers threatening to challenge the results *before the caucuses took place*. Forgive me, but that seems much more distressing as a campaign strategy than the actions of any particular precinct captain. Yes, people can get overzealous, but that can happen on either side. Only one side has threatened to sue *when* they lost - because they fully expected to, based on their own lack of preparation.

It's often said that primaries measure "breadth of support" while caucuses measure "depth." In other words, people who show up for a caucus are the most committed to their candidate. That's the reason that Democrats have _both_ as part of their nomination process. They don't just want to sample who the most people like, but also "how much." That way they're not just getting a candidate with high "name recognition," but also a candidate who will have a strong, engaged base of supporters for the general election. On that front, the caucuses definitely attest to Obama's support. The primaries in the large states attest to Clinton's being better known to a broader base of supporters. As time has gone on, Obama has become better known and liked in those larger states (as is shown by the fact that he now polls higher than her in places like CA and NJ). Thus, the primary/caucus hybrid system is a good compromise for getting lots of kinds of input for the eventually nominee.

Oh, and the Guam "caucus" is run more like a primary, with "secret ballot." It's just called a "caucus."

Who cares Guam???Guam can't vote on the GE, but Florida and Michigan can.

Larry. This is the interent. We Clinton supporters have to read all kinds of Bizarre posts about Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Just rest assured that most of us Clinton supporters do not harbour any ill will towards Senator Obama at all. We just feel Hillary is more qualified to do the job.

Larry,
The Dems are getting ready to hand over the white house back to the clueless Republicans again. Just because a popular black man is trouncing their fairy queen Hillary.
Frce Hillary on people and watch your hopes go up in smoke....I cant believe how clueless Howard is.....DNC needs a new chairman for sure.

hi everyone again...please, don;'t discount hillary...she is the best...i think o'reilly fell in love with her.....she just controlled him and threw him to the lions...go hillary

tom davie, thanks, good to hear from you....hillary will not back down. go dems...go hillary

sheila, seems your 1:16:39 a.m. post makes the Clinton supporters case for them - that our caucases here stateside have been manipulated in Obama's favor. DNC Chair Howard Dean wrote about how to skew caucases (he even included how win elections by targeting the young); it can certainly be done by anyone lacking moral fiber.

Hey Carla Sue .

Good to be here. Was a great Caucus in Guam. Very close.

Congrats to senator Obama. Lets hope for a big win in Indiana and North Carolina for Hillary.

I dunno folks.

Regardless, the thing was a virtual tie. Obama technically wins and contrats to him.

Im sure its fair and square.

Lets move on to a good indiana and north carolina primary.

A win is not a win unless Hillary win's. A rule is not a rule unless Hillary makes it.

No need to be a Hillary hater on this one. You should be thrilled. Its a caucus. Obama wins those. He has organizers who disenfranchise voters with oops we ran out of ballots. Too bad so sad.

The Guam results is an indication that Hillary will have problems in Puerto
Rico. American voters are not familiar with the issues that concern the people of these territories. There will not be enough room to race-bait like Clinton did here in the mainland. She is in for s surprise in Puerto Rico.

i wonder how long it took for the hillary supporters to "find" the 500 votes that somehow got missed. i bet i know already who the 499 cast their vote for.