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Split Victories

May 21, 2008 9:10 AM

Obama wins Oregon, Clinton Kentucky. We took a look at it all on Good Morning America this a.m.

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Okay. I don't believe Senator Obama is George Soros's puppet. I did the research, including a close look at Obama's record-breaking fundraising operation.

Turns out he's nobody's puppet. But if you have some proof, by all means, enlighten us.

Posted by: Harley | May 21, 2008 3:46:44 PM

"No one saw him coming...until Iowa...he's shown you don't have to do the same old thing..." >

That's what the BO legacy will be built on? He came outta nowhere? If the media was looking for a reason to knock HRC down, he wouldn't have received the press coverage he got in IA. What a boon for ratings - talk about this dark horse and take the chance to take some shots at the Clintons.

By the time NH came around, HRC was "on the ropes" according to the media. After a loss that was blown out of proportion. And the beat goes on from there. This has been such a media circus from the beginning.

The media has spun their oath "not to project a winner til polls close" into a ratings fiasco. Remember MS? Nobody was projecting a winner for nearly an hour after polls closed. As if anyone thought BO wasn't gonna win it. That way we can sit there and watch Donna Brazille give wedgies to anyone willing to say something nice about HRC. zzzz...

This thing is turning into a 10-part made for TV movie. The problem is the story is so contrived at this point, nobody will be tuning in for the last episode.

Posted by: 3rdChoice | May 21, 2008 3:18:27 PM

Louis, I agree. No one saw Obama coming, not even myself.

Posted by: kate | May 21, 2008 2:44:42 PM

geevill | May 21, 2008 10:51:49 AM
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You mean the 31000 they double-counted in B O's favor in Indiana?... or was that North Carolina?

Posted by: earmark | May 21, 2008 2:10:30 PM

Blah blah blah, No one, NO ONE saw Obama coming. Until Iowa Clinton was assumed to be the nominee, every media picked it and wrote about it. Obama got the job done in this campaign. He has shown that you don't have to do the same old thing, the same old way. He has been clear, it is not about him being the first anything. the country needs a leader that will allow the people their voice. That will not change the rules to suit, that will look to solve problems instead of score points. Deride him all you want, but when you get to the point where you need to make stuff up about a candidate in order to get negative press, he's been vetted.

Posted by: Louis | May 21, 2008 2:09:29 PM

Maybe the party needs to be torn apart; it sure isn't working as is. I have a feeling a great many democrats are going to pack up their toys (dnc support, donations, and their vote) and move on over to being independent. If it means 4 years of having to suck it up under McCain; I think they'll deal and do just that.

Maybe their thought is, "I can survive 4 years under McCain...can you?"

Posted by: JBedford70 | May 21, 2008 1:58:34 PM

If you don't believe Obama is a puppet chosen by the Democratic Party and George Soros...then do some research.

You will begin to see how far left America may become if Obama is elected.

They didn't want Hillary because she could not be controlled. Obama was willing to sell his soul.


McCain is sounding better and better.

Posted by: cindy in nc | May 21, 2008 1:56:01 PM

I know MSNBC must be congratulating themselves on Obama's apparent nomination. But I think he can blame them in Nov. after his loss. When MSNBC started their bias/sexist campaign, someone from Obama's campaign should have called them and said, I can't win without her supporters.

Posted by: ttw | May 21, 2008 1:31:12 PM

That Oregon crowd of 70,000 that (supposedly) turned out for an Obama speech?

It turns out the crowd was drawn by a free concert given by the popular Oregon based band The Decemberists , whose last two albums, including The Crane Wife, received 4 and a half stars out of a possible 5 from Rolling Stone Magazine. And the weather was an unseasonable 80 degrees and sunny.

But 70,000 people turning out to hear an Obama speech made much better copy, so that is the story that was reported around the world.

Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | May 21, 2008 12:52:34 PM

Power - this is my dream. I didn't write any lines for you in it. Don't worry - Dean and Obama will tell you whatever is needed to keep you voting blindly. Go back to drinking your kool-aid.

Posted by: 3rdChoice | May 21, 2008 12:30:24 PM

CLINTON LIEBERMAN???? She would be killing herself pairing up with such a Bush loving traitor. Besides, Leiberman will be McCains choice. And McCainis no Moderate. Like Leiberman, he changes his views depending on the political winds. He has not been consistant on any issue I can think of... not one. McCain - Lieberman - NEVER

Posted by: power2people | May 21, 2008 12:24:01 PM

3rd choice,

I really like that idea. The Dems and Repubs overall are too extreme for me. I would love Hillary as an IND or 3rd Party candidate.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 21, 2008 12:02:05 PM

Angie/Power/and the rest of you with blinders. The single most important lesson anyone should learn in this election cycle is that you should vote your principles.

The Dems are actually ahead of the Republicans...not in speaking to the issues or finding the best candidate. But in demonstrating the breakage in the current 2 party system. The only thing worse than voting for a candidate because he/she is in 'your party' is voting against the other candidate because they aren't. Obama has been talking like he's the Dem nominee (yes, he likely will be), and he's attacking McCain like some right-wing fanatic. Nothing could be further from the truth.
McCain is about the closest thing to a moderate as this country has seen in years. That said, he doesn't appeal to enough of my key issues to vote for him. But I respect the fact that he has continuously shown an ability to reach across the aisle and build/work with coalitions from both parties. Yes, he absolutely has flashes of a typical repub. But he balances that with open-mindedness that you don't find with pols out on the wings (i.e. Obama, Gingrich, etc.).

HRC has shown that the Dem voters are not lemmings (so far) - that we don't all want a candidate shoved down our throats. That there's room for someone closer to the center. Personally, I'd welcome a 3rd party that sat closer to the ideological center - let the Dems sit on the left and Repubs on the right. There's a lot more of us who favor selected features of both ideologies - and can build a constituency that would challenge both. The Dems don't want the Clintons anymore - they've used up what they wanted from Bill and Hillary. Great - let HRC's legacy be the phoenix whose ashes spawn a legitimate 3rd party. Clinton-Liebermann 2008 Independent...2012...I don't care when - just give me a real choice.

Posted by: 3rdChoice | May 21, 2008 11:54:38 AM

countallthevotes, yes apparently fear tactics are Obama's key to victory - all the while decrying Republicans for trying to win by using fear tactics.

It's the New Politics of St. Obama!

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 21, 2008 11:52:41 AM

Obama supporters seem to believe that the country will crash if McCain is elected.

Unfortunately for them, there will be more people in November who will believe that the country will crash if Obama is elected.

Country before Party every time; you can take that to the bank.

Posted by: HoosierSue | May 21, 2008 11:49:26 AM

Angie,

Are trying to scare people into voting for Obama? Is that how he is going to run in the GE?

Slogan for Obama in GE:

Are you scared? Vote Obama!!

That is pretty weird.

Posted by: countallthevotes | May 21, 2008 11:45:39 AM

Clinton changes her tune as often as she blinks. At the start of the campaign when she lead in delegates her story was delegates are all that matter. Now that she can't catch up she's off on her popular vote tangent. An angle which has been proven to use her fuzzy math.

Posted by: Tom | May 21, 2008 11:45:22 AM

TO ALL THE CLINTON SUPPOTERS WE ALL CLAIM TO BE DEMOCRATS WE ALL WANT THE WAR IN IRAQ TO END WE ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN OUR HOMES WE ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN AND GIVE THEM A GOOD FUTURE THE LIST GOES ON AND ON WE SURE DONT WANT THE THINGS MCCAIN WILL BE OFFERING US IF HE IS ELECTED SO WHY WOULD WE EVEN THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR A MAN WE TRULY KNOW WILL NOT GIVE US ANY OF THESE THINGS OUT OF SPITE OF HILLARY LOSING COME ON PEOPLE STOP THE BITTERNESS AND SPITE AND LETS DO THE RIGHT THING VOTE DEMOCRAT!!!!! IF NOT FOR YOURSELF THAN FOR YOUR CHILDREN!!!!! DONT LET MCCAIN DESTROY THEIR FUTURE

Posted by: angie | May 21, 2008 11:35:43 AM

Elitism is having a son of an Oil Baron running this country so his family and rich cronies can profit. The deficit is looming and is a direct result of $12Billion per month being wasted on a war that we can't win and has done NOTHING to protect us. But we continue to spend it for the sake of Oil (even McPain agreed). It is the working stiff paying form it, Bush gave his rich friends a pass on it with his tax cuts. In the mean time Average Americans are struggling to heat there homes, pay mortgages and get healthcare, while the Republicans p*ss away our tax dollars in Iraq. That is elitist, my friend. And McPain, who makes up his mind on policy depending on the direction of the political winds, supports Republican Elitism.
Obama 08... Kick the real elitists OUT of office.

Posted by: power2people | May 21, 2008 11:31:13 AM

The best coverage of the OR primary was a passing reference to why Obama was favored (I think it was in yesterday's Post). Something like "Obama enjoys strong support in the state, where similar past candidates like McGovern and Humphrey did." Remind me - was McGovern the 37th or 38th POTUS? I just can't seem to remember which election he won. Hmmm.

OR is a wild card - sways in the wind. If the Dem candidate isn't liberal enough, they seem to vote republican. Either way, the state won't decide the GE.

And the Obama rally of 70,000? Please - even Kerry attracted 50,000. I love Oregon (the state), but let's face it - you could get a group of folks to stop and watch paint dry. And for anyone familiar with Pioneer Square (a short stroll from McCall park)...I wonder how many of the 70,000 people were the teen vagrants who otherwise sit around downtown. It's practically a sport to panhandle downtown.

Posted by: NoBama | May 21, 2008 11:31:10 AM

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