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Okay. I don't believe Senator Obama is George Soros's puppet. I did the research, including a close look at Obama's record-breaking fundraising operation.

Turns out he's nobody's puppet. But if you have some proof, by all means, enlighten us.

"No one saw him coming...until Iowa...he's shown you don't have to do the same old thing..." >

That's what the BO legacy will be built on? He came outta nowhere? If the media was looking for a reason to knock HRC down, he wouldn't have received the press coverage he got in IA. What a boon for ratings - talk about this dark horse and take the chance to take some shots at the Clintons.

By the time NH came around, HRC was "on the ropes" according to the media. After a loss that was blown out of proportion. And the beat goes on from there. This has been such a media circus from the beginning.

The media has spun their oath "not to project a winner til polls close" into a ratings fiasco. Remember MS? Nobody was projecting a winner for nearly an hour after polls closed. As if anyone thought BO wasn't gonna win it. That way we can sit there and watch Donna Brazille give wedgies to anyone willing to say something nice about HRC. zzzz...

This thing is turning into a 10-part made for TV movie. The problem is the story is so contrived at this point, nobody will be tuning in for the last episode.

Louis, I agree. No one saw Obama coming, not even myself.

geevill | May 21, 2008 10:51:49 AM
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You mean the 31000 they double-counted in B O's favor in Indiana?... or was that North Carolina?

Blah blah blah, No one, NO ONE saw Obama coming. Until Iowa Clinton was assumed to be the nominee, every media picked it and wrote about it. Obama got the job done in this campaign. He has shown that you don't have to do the same old thing, the same old way. He has been clear, it is not about him being the first anything. the country needs a leader that will allow the people their voice. That will not change the rules to suit, that will look to solve problems instead of score points. Deride him all you want, but when you get to the point where you need to make stuff up about a candidate in order to get negative press, he's been vetted.

Maybe the party needs to be torn apart; it sure isn't working as is. I have a feeling a great many democrats are going to pack up their toys (dnc support, donations, and their vote) and move on over to being independent. If it means 4 years of having to suck it up under McCain; I think they'll deal and do just that.

Maybe their thought is, "I can survive 4 years under McCain...can you?"

If you don't believe Obama is a puppet chosen by the Democratic Party and George Soros...then do some research.

You will begin to see how far left America may become if Obama is elected.

They didn't want Hillary because she could not be controlled. Obama was willing to sell his soul.

McCain is sounding better and better.

I know MSNBC must be congratulating themselves on Obama's apparent nomination. But I think he can blame them in Nov. after his loss. When MSNBC started their bias/sexist campaign, someone from Obama's campaign should have called them and said, I can't win without her supporters.

That Oregon crowd of 70,000 that (supposedly) turned out for an Obama speech?

It turns out the crowd was drawn by a free concert given by the popular Oregon based band The Decemberists , whose last two albums, including The Crane Wife, received 4 and a half stars out of a possible 5 from Rolling Stone Magazine. And the weather was an unseasonable 80 degrees and sunny.

But 70,000 people turning out to hear an Obama speech made much better copy, so that is the story that was reported around the world.

Power - this is my dream. I didn't write any lines for you in it. Don't worry - Dean and Obama will tell you whatever is needed to keep you voting blindly. Go back to drinking your kool-aid.

CLINTON LIEBERMAN???? She would be killing herself pairing up with such a Bush loving traitor. Besides, Leiberman will be McCains choice. And McCainis no Moderate. Like Leiberman, he changes his views depending on the political winds. He has not been consistant on any issue I can think of... not one. McCain - Lieberman - NEVER

3rd choice,

I really like that idea. The Dems and Repubs overall are too extreme for me. I would love Hillary as an IND or 3rd Party candidate.

Angie/Power/and the rest of you with blinders. The single most important lesson anyone should learn in this election cycle is that you should vote your principles.

The Dems are actually ahead of the Republicans...not in speaking to the issues or finding the best candidate. But in demonstrating the breakage in the current 2 party system. The only thing worse than voting for a candidate because he/she is in 'your party' is voting against the other candidate because they aren't. Obama has been talking like he's the Dem nominee (yes, he likely will be), and he's attacking McCain like some right-wing fanatic. Nothing could be further from the truth.
McCain is about the closest thing to a moderate as this country has seen in years. That said, he doesn't appeal to enough of my key issues to vote for him. But I respect the fact that he has continuously shown an ability to reach across the aisle and build/work with coalitions from both parties. Yes, he absolutely has flashes of a typical repub. But he balances that with open-mindedness that you don't find with pols out on the wings (i.e. Obama, Gingrich, etc.).

HRC has shown that the Dem voters are not lemmings (so far) - that we don't all want a candidate shoved down our throats. That there's room for someone closer to the center. Personally, I'd welcome a 3rd party that sat closer to the ideological center - let the Dems sit on the left and Repubs on the right. There's a lot more of us who favor selected features of both ideologies - and can build a constituency that would challenge both. The Dems don't want the Clintons anymore - they've used up what they wanted from Bill and Hillary. Great - let HRC's legacy be the phoenix whose ashes spawn a legitimate 3rd party. Clinton-Liebermann 2008 Independent...2012...I don't care when - just give me a real choice.

countallthevotes, yes apparently fear tactics are Obama's key to victory - all the while decrying Republicans for trying to win by using fear tactics.

It's the New Politics of St. Obama!

Obama supporters seem to believe that the country will crash if McCain is elected.

Unfortunately for them, there will be more people in November who will believe that the country will crash if Obama is elected.

Country before Party every time; you can take that to the bank.

Angie,

Are trying to scare people into voting for Obama? Is that how he is going to run in the GE?

Slogan for Obama in GE:

Are you scared? Vote Obama!!

That is pretty weird.

Clinton changes her tune as often as she blinks. At the start of the campaign when she lead in delegates her story was delegates are all that matter. Now that she can't catch up she's off on her popular vote tangent. An angle which has been proven to use her fuzzy math.

TO ALL THE CLINTON SUPPOTERS WE ALL CLAIM TO BE DEMOCRATS WE ALL WANT THE WAR IN IRAQ TO END WE ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN OUR HOMES WE ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN AND GIVE THEM A GOOD FUTURE THE LIST GOES ON AND ON WE SURE DONT WANT THE THINGS MCCAIN WILL BE OFFERING US IF HE IS ELECTED SO WHY WOULD WE EVEN THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR A MAN WE TRULY KNOW WILL NOT GIVE US ANY OF THESE THINGS OUT OF SPITE OF HILLARY LOSING COME ON PEOPLE STOP THE BITTERNESS AND SPITE AND LETS DO THE RIGHT THING VOTE DEMOCRAT!!!!! IF NOT FOR YOURSELF THAN FOR YOUR CHILDREN!!!!! DONT LET MCCAIN DESTROY THEIR FUTURE

Elitism is having a son of an Oil Baron running this country so his family and rich cronies can profit. The deficit is looming and is a direct result of $12Billion per month being wasted on a war that we can't win and has done NOTHING to protect us. But we continue to spend it for the sake of Oil (even McPain agreed). It is the working stiff paying form it, Bush gave his rich friends a pass on it with his tax cuts. In the mean time Average Americans are struggling to heat there homes, pay mortgages and get healthcare, while the Republicans p*ss away our tax dollars in Iraq. That is elitist, my friend. And McPain, who makes up his mind on policy depending on the direction of the political winds, supports Republican Elitism.
Obama 08... Kick the real elitists OUT of office.

The best coverage of the OR primary was a passing reference to why Obama was favored (I think it was in yesterday's Post). Something like "Obama enjoys strong support in the state, where similar past candidates like McGovern and Humphrey did." Remind me - was McGovern the 37th or 38th POTUS? I just can't seem to remember which election he won. Hmmm.

OR is a wild card - sways in the wind. If the Dem candidate isn't liberal enough, they seem to vote republican. Either way, the state won't decide the GE.

And the Obama rally of 70,000? Please - even Kerry attracted 50,000. I love Oregon (the state), but let's face it - you could get a group of folks to stop and watch paint dry. And for anyone familiar with Pioneer Square (a short stroll from McCall park)...I wonder how many of the 70,000 people were the teen vagrants who otherwise sit around downtown. It's practically a sport to panhandle downtown.

I hope america is smarter then this

otherwise we deserve what we get with mccain

so many of you people are so off base it is incredible

your constant spin of the issues is mind boggling. it is more then apparent you do not know what you are talking about

just because you tell yourself a lie, and continue saying its true its true, doesnt mean it is

obama was the underdog,
obama had a better campaign
obama has won over hillary

if you choose to vote for mccain out of spite, or out of lunacy, or in the hopes that clinton runs again in '12

you are pathetic, you are sore losers, and you are sick people who are condemning this country to 4 more years of absolute hell...

the rest of the world is watching

hillary and obama have almost exactly the same policies and voting record

she proposed a gas tax that would do nothing
he said it would do nothing and almost all of you agreed

so thats the difference...

you cant claim shes winning because shes not

you cant claim mccain is better then obama because hes not

obama is not an elitist where anyone gets this idea YOU ARE WRONG

mccain has the problems with lobbyists with ties to terrorist countires and governments

mccain promises you terror and more BS

if you want to get into associations and tie ayers to obama for something ayers did 60 years ago, which so many of you demo(veiled republicans)crats really want to do

then you better get ready for the mccain ride and all his ties

for someone who wants to kill terrorist he sure is getting funded from them for the white house

AND STILL NO ONE CAN PROVE OBAMA RECIEVED MONEY FOR THIS CAMPAIGN FROM LOBBYISTS BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG

AND F YOU SPOCK YOU ARE THE WORST POSTER ON HERE...
where you getting your copy and past answers from? mccrapville

texasdemocrat I'm sorry but I don't buy what you're selling. The main reason Clinton is going to hang on a while longer is for her future. If McCain wins this thing she wants to be setup to run in four years. If Obama wins you bet you will be looking for a powerful cabinet position since the VP slot isn't going to happen. Even Hillary doesn't believe the pipe dream that she's going to win 75% of the remaining delegates and superdelegates as well as have major superdelegate defections from Obama's side.

HoosierSue, yes, that's the beauty of it. Tho' one might want to explain a McCain vote to all the young men and women who will die in Iraq, and die needlessly, as a result.

HoosierSue,

You are so right. That is the beauty of our country. One person, one vote, no explanations.

The beautiful thing about America is that no one has to explain their private vote in the General Election. The majority of America will quietly step into their voting booths and elect President McCain. And not one of them has to try to reason with Obama's supporters or the media or the ultra-left liberal Dems as to why they favored this man over Obama. Simple as that.

Ifind it interesting that the elitist in the DNC/Lib party are selecting your nominee as they did in Connecticut when they kicked a life long Democrat out. The once great Democrat party has been taken over by the likes of Soros, Ayers, Wright and other Billionaire Elitists who see nothing but power and to control the people through either there Socialistic Policies or Proven False claims of Man-made Global Warming.

The only action left is to kick all Dems out of office the same way a lesson was taught to republicans for acting like Libs in 06, this time we need to kick the Dems out for be Socialistic.

If Obama wins the Presidenecy the freedom and prosperitery we now enjoy will be gone, you will be told what you can eat, drive, where you can work, and whether you live or die.

For you open minded people do research into Europe and other semi-socialistic countries for you libs that are closed minded well you will go down in History for helping to destroy the Greatest Country ever.

Universal (Socialized) Healthcare Fails
The real solution would be TORT reform!!

If Obama is elected we will be paying 10$ a gallon for gas
and thousands more money for food!
Just look what happened since the Libs took over Congress!!

The only difference between Hilary and Obama is that Hilary is not a racist or part of the open Hate America Group!!

Obama’s campaign says the staggering numbers that Clinton received in West Virginia and Kentucky “aren’t meaningful” because Obama spent very little time in West Virginia or Kentucky and they say when he does campaign the numbers will move up accordingly. Unsound. His campaign spent HEAVILY and advertised HEAVILY in OREGON---remember the crowds 75,000 at one location---in our faces on the news, yet he only managed to TIE Clinton with the white collar workers and the college crowd. This should be sending a SUPER MESSAGE to the DNC unless they want a candidate that is going to LOSE the Election in NOVEMBER.

The DNC is counting on Hillary’s followers to go to Obama but they will not! They will not follow this man who is deceiving the country. The feelings are strong and growing stronger by the day. Barack Hussein Obama will fail in the November Election and it is a sure thing.

HILLARY KEEPS WINNING BY LANDSLIDES AND BARACK OBAMA WANTS HER TO QUIT. NO WAY! GO HILLARY! YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

Matt wrote:

You had better look at the BIGGER Picture. Hillary supporters will NEVER support a MEDIA created Fake called OBAMA!

Hillary 2008 but if not than McCain 2008

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Will Hillary-McCain voters support the continued war, and inevitable 4-5000 soldiers returning home? In caskets?

Do we need another Nick Berg? Google if you forgot.

I find myself in limbo. I am adamantly opposed to voting for Barack Obama but completely incapable of seeing myself vote republican for the first time in my life. I live in VA where there are no party affiliations associated with your voter registration -- my declaration as newly independent is only to myself (and the DNC to whom I refuse to contribute again.) I have been deeply angered and saddend by how this whole mess has evolved and the apparent "fix" by the DNC, supers and the MSM. I agree with the HRC supporters who are willing to wait until 2012... BUT... I've been thinking .... what if she does accept a VP slot...
I firmly beleive that the repugs are planning something to completely and utterly eviscerate the Obama campaign. Anyone who has been looking knows there is so much raw material out there for them to work with... having said all that .. if HRC is already on the ticket and the repugs find a way to render him completely un-electable...wouldn't it be easier for her to be able to step up and be the nominee?

THE REAL REASON HILLARY WILL LOSE:

The democratic party has been hijacked by the ultra-left. Financed by the likes of Soros and guided by Pelosi, Dean and other socialist-leaning liberals, the party has been transformed. Any moderate candidate doesn't have a chance because the behind-the-scenes maneuvering has preordained the outcome. Especially telling is the results of caucuses where the ultras eased out the moderates while denying the populace of their votes. It was nomination by the few!

So now, the fat lady is beginning her song and all that's left is for democrats to decide whether they want to stay with their moderate principles or join the left-wing express.

I predict they'll swallow their principles and join the O-Bozo bandwagon. The latest polls seem to be bearing that out.

Good-bye democratic party. You've had a good run. But, count me out of this nonsense!

The voters are making it clear that they do not want Barack the Potted Plant as their nominee. It's only the politicians who want this puppet so they can keep their gravey train rolling. Down with the DNC and the politicians who go against the will of the people. Remember, you too will be up for re-election and we're watching.

countallthevotes

My thinking isn't flawed because there is RARELY logic, or sound reasoning why some of the posters are voting for McCain. Sure there are some, but not many. It's typically a "poor Hillary-hate Obama-vote McCain" reason. Childish. Nothing about the economy or resurrecting from eight years of George Bush. Throw down some facts, and I would not have posted "out of spite."

And as I might of said, but if not, here it is: I would happily vote for Hillary Clinton if she were the nominee (though her campaign debt would worry me).

Matt,

Polls are what both sides are using when talking about electability. The bad ones count -- eg Kentucky -- but so do the good ones. My point, and it's not complicated, is that the national polls look very good for Obama at the moment. Better than they do for Senator Clinton.

To Harley
AS your boy Obama said POLLS do not mean anything and they change every day or did he mean that POLLS do not count only when they are bad for him? Typical!

Hillary 2008 but if not than McCain 2008

Hi Really,

You're probably correct. I was just speculating as to Mrs. Clinton's strategy. She has been around for a while and is somewhat predictable. Mr. Obama's history is not as well documented, and his agenda less obvious. I'm sure either would do a good job.

To debbie cho
You had better look at the BIGGER Picture. Hillary supporters will NEVER support a MEDIA created Fake called OBAMA!

Hillary 2008 but if not than McCain 2008

Harley,

Character, experience, and undivided loyalty to this country.

Clinton and McCain best Obama, hands down.

First a comment. Lotsa numbers came out yesterday, including a Gallup tracking poll that shows Obama besting Senator Clinton in every demographic category. Men, women, college graduates, those who make less than 50k a year, those who have a high school diploma or less....every demographic category, and a 15 point national lead. Another interesting number? Obama currently leads McCain by eight points in Pennsylvania.

The Kentucky exits tell us a lot about...Kentucky. Obama's exits in Oregon, Wisonsin, Michigan, etc. are similarly dispositive. It's a mistake to extrapolate beyond that.

Second, a question. For those who announce general election loyalty to Clinton or McCain (and no one else)? Please advise the rest of us how this vote makes sense, given the policy positions of the two candidates. Please be specific. Thanks in advance.

To bhrandon
What you Obama supporters DO NOT understand is that alot of AMERICANS will put America FIRST and Party second. They are still good Democrats but even better Americans. Hillary supporters will not hand thae White House to a MEDIA created FAKE who in his own words when speaking about White People in his book "THAT HATE HADN'T GONE AWAY".

Hillary 2008 but if not than McCain 2008

REALITY CHECK.
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As we follow the primaries,we all
noticed that Obama cannot get a
certain group of voters.
What is means?????? Means trouble in
november for Obama.
DNC and the party leaders support Obama
but the voters DO NOT.
It's very easy a democrat to vote
republican.It happened before.
DNC and party leaders ignore the will
of the voters.Guess what?????
They deserve to lose in november.
OBAMA'S ELECTABILITY IS THE KEY ISSUE.

meant nomination not presidency

Matt in that instance you are right

but what are the chances of that? HIllary has been and still is losing support... since Indiana and NC, she has won what.... 1 super delegate

to obamas 20?

but for them to take away the presidency from obama, the man who had the MOST pledged delegates would cause the party to crummble...

hillary would not be able to win

obama has won, she has to try to bring her supporters together so we can beat mccain

its that simple

It's not Hillary's fault. The Obama miscues, swipes at the "bitter" "clinging" working folk, anti-American stuff, elitist cues, and of course Rev. Wright have hurt him beyond repair with average working folk. The simple fact is that Dems must do well in this demographic to win the general. He started off as a candidate of all the people, but now he is seen by many as the "black candidate", who is funded and supported by the Kennedy/Pelosi affluent liberal elite. He is now an African-American Kerry.

geevill,

I am with you. Obama supporters do forget that no delegate, pledged or super, has voted. It ain't over by a long shot.

If it is over, why are the Obama supporters out in full force blogging their fingers off??

Hey, Obama supporters, sit back and relax. You say it is over.

he declared what was rightfully his

the majority of pledged delegates

and anyone who says mccain is a fine leader isnt a democrat and you are making

geevil, that is true that bill won those, but if you know anything about politics and the general election, is that the path to the nomination changes, and is rarely the same for more then 2 years in a row

obama has a different plan as to how to win the election

no matter which candidate it is you have to thread the neddle to win in the GE...

hillarys path is no less complicated then obamas, and neither is mccains

To bhrandon
Read the rules again. Unless Obama hits 2025 delegates and if this goes to the Convention than ALL superdelegrage have to OFFICIALLY pledge thier support for who ever they feel is the strongest at THAT TIME and can change thier support. Example - Some or all of the superdelegates that have pledged to support Hillary now can all switch to Obama at the Convention if they choose and vice-versa.

kate,

The flaw in your thinking is that Clinton supporters would vote for NcCain over Obama "out of spite." Do you even consider that they might choose McCain because they think he would be the better President. Nothing to do with spite. You know, some people think of Obama as "Words, just Words."

The Dem.Party hates the Clintons. Once Obama started winning a few states he became their man.

The resentment is all over Pelosi's face...

They hate Hillary because they cannot control her.

I'm not thrilled with Republicans either. But winner takes all makes more sense than % delegates and the rediculous superdelegates.

Hillary or McCain

MATT prove it

tahts all im asking, show me... go ahead

Pelosi's Amazing Money Machine can buy the Democratic elite. They're for sale. Kentucky, Ohio, West Virginia and Pennsylvania shows the people are not for sale.

Obama loses. Get used to it.

"Hillary supporters (here anyway) are more or less threatening to ruin the country by voting for McPain if they don't get their way. That's sad."

What is sad is you are willing to say that about a man of honor. McCain is a fine leader and as a minority President will work with Congress to ensure a better future than we've had for the last eight years. The difference is he actually does know how to get that done.

Cindy

why did obama win over 50% of the women in oregon?

Why did he win more then 50% of the white working, hard working, blue collar workers here?

When in kentucky and west virgina in an exit poll say " i would NOT vote for him because of his race "

do you find that not to be racist? and if that many people are willing to say they are racist, how many more arent saying it but are?

When edwards wins 7% over both candidates, that says something else

dont act like WV and KT arent red states, just becaus she won them in primary doesnt mean she would win them in GE

THE REAL REASON HILLARY WILL LOSE:

The democratic party has been hijacked by the ultra-left. Financed by the likes of Soros and guided by Pelosi, Dean and other socialist-leaning liberals, the party has been transformed. Any moderate candidate doesn't have a chance because the behind-the-scenes maneuvering has preordained the outcome. Especially telling is the results of caucuses where the ultras eased out the moderates while denying the populace of their votes. It was nomination by the few!

So now, the fat lady is beginning her song and all that's left is for democrats to decide whether they want to stay with their moderate principles or join the left-wing express.

I predict they'll swallow their principles and join the O-Bozo bandwagon. The latest polls seem to be bearing that out.

Good-bye democratic party. You've had a good run. But, count me out of this nonsense!

Those who bought stock in rose colored glasses, remember to sell before the inevitable crash in the Fall.

Clinton with an overwhelming electoral college lead.
The popular vote looks like this:
Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)
Clinton 17,407,282
Obama 17,225,759

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA
Clinton 17,631,144
Obama 17,559,843

Clinton trounces Obama by a 65 % to 30% margin in another critical state that Dems must have to win the general...
and Obama goes to Iowa to declare victory!??

And you wonder why since 1980, only Bill Clinton has won as a Democrat presidential nominee?

To bhrandon
Twist it anyway you want but THE MAJORITY of money that OBAMA's receives in donations comes from Big Corporations and Lobbyist. That is the FACTS. He receives alot of donations from alot of young people but the MAJORITY of the AMOUNT of money he receives comes from Corporations and Lobbyist as do all Politicians.

Matt

i know the rules

she has to win 90-100% of the remaining delegates in the remaining contests.. and that was before oregon...

so now she has to win 99-100% of the remaining delegates from the remaining contests

she also must win 80-90% of the super delegates

there are some 200 supers left

115 of those are supers that are from states and counties obama has won

so she more then has an uphill battle...

you can say there is a chance, but that chance is so minuscule that if a doctor told you you had this much of a chance to live, youd be dead in an hour

Many Obama supporters have relentlessly called the people in WV,KY "ignorant, racist, trailer trash".

Apparently Kentucky voters don't appreciate the slurs. Hillary won college voters and higher income voters.

Apparently Obama's moving "faith" flier didn't work either.

The people in KY and WV are smart enough to spot a phony. Its called common sense.

Thank-you Kentucky!

cindy what you are saying is bull and you should know it if you are spewing facts

obama was never pushed

IN FACT

hillary was pushed on us... she thought this was all but hers from the moment she said she was running for office... and hell a lot of peopel believed her... even me

but then she ran a terrible campaign, lied, cahnged positions, and was dis-ingenious, and lied to change the rules

it wasnt until obama came out of knowhere that she realized she wasnt a shoe in

and her message was falling flat

people wanted change, and hillary, symbolized more of the same... and she still does...

so you are wrong when you say obama is being pushed on you and that the DNC is conspiring against her...

SHE DID THIS TO HERSELF

SHE LOST

She is making women look desperate and caddy...

im sick of how she changes the facts, and lies to her supporters on what is actually going on

changing the delegate math, and still losing, changing what hte popular vote is

Hillary's in the hole $31 million.

What a colossal waste of money--handed over to advertising companies who are making millions over this campaign.

HRCs willingness to run up massive debts in her own bid to win, is reflective of how she would govern... aren't you sick of this already? We've squandered billions and billions... meanwhile the bare necessities are impossible to fund.

To bhrandon
See this is the problem.You don't know the rules because if you did than you would know that she still has a chance to win (not a big chance but a chance) by the rules.And at the convention all Superdelegates can chance thier vote if they feel at that time that some one else has a better chance of winning the general. These are the DNC RULES!

sorry noway bama these are facts i give you

if he received money from those sources please provide ME with facts showing he is actually getting money from these sources...thnx

hoosier sue

actually his loss in kentucky a place that has been red for the last two elections, and been a red state for the majority of its life... how is that more or less important then a state that votes for the democrat?

Why cant hillary win educated people?

and YES fund raising has a lot to do with it... she has no money, obama is flush

usually the person who is in the lead usually has a bigger war chest...

hillary has lost, and she will probalby win puerto rico
and then lose montana and south dakota

then after june 3rd the super delegates will say, ok, thanks for playing hillary, but its over, were going with obama

Hillary supporters (here anyway) are more or less threatening to ruin the country by voting for McPain if they don't get their way. That's sad.
Obama has all but won the nomination by the rules. Hillary knew the rules going in, she agreed to them. Now she doesn't. So her team screams "sexism". Sore losers will do just about anything, but they only end up sore losers. I too was a sore loser in 2000 and 2004. Not this year.
I am a former Clinton supporter, I voted for Bill twice and voted twice for her to be US Senator. She's done well in NY. She should stay here. I do not support her inher nomination bid.
Her failure to know the difference between sniper fire and a little girl reading a poem convinced me she does not have sound reasoning to be commander in chief. That is the wreckless kind of thinking that got us into Iraq... which she proved when she voted in favor of going in.

Noway Obama wrote:

Hillary 2008 but if not than McCain 2008

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Go ahead, Noway. Vote out out of spite. Can't you see our economy in a downward spiral which I'm sure the war effort will contribute to. McCain's "projecting" to pull out in 2013. Glad your wallet can afford it b/c mine can't. Note to self, buy stock in military caskets, sell stock in 2013.

I'm an Obama supporter, but would vote for Hillary in a heartbeat if she were the nominee.

I am disgusted with the Democratic Party. They wanted Obama all along so they pushed him on us.

They knew Hillary would never cave,so they picked an inexperienced,unvetted unqualified candidate they could mold and twist anyway they want.

And now the Democrats are stuck with Obama. A man 30%-50% of the voters say shares the beliefs of Rev Wright who hates America!

Obama sold his soul and now he is their puppet. Unlike McCain who is a maverick and his own man...he isn't afraid to question his own party.

I would never vote for Obama. He is arrogant, phony, and I simply don't trust him.

Hillary/McCain

matt please explain how hillary and bill were treated unfairly?

do you remember hillary from the beginning of the race?

what was her character like then?

why has she continually lied about sniper fire, changed who she was until she finally started to win?

she pandered and everyone has seen through it.

If you claim sexism the only true sexism in this race belongs to that of hillary clinton...

if she were a man they would have had to bow out by now... or face political ruin and seen as a party splitter...

so please, tell me how changing the rules, not caring about votes until the votes are needed is osmeone who is mistreated?

why did she run republican style ads against a member of her own party? why does she continue to lie to her base of supporters about hte situation

there is no way BY THE RULES she can win...

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Obama's loss in KY is much more significant than Clinton's in OR. It doesn't bode well for his chances in the GE. Nor do the rantings of his followers here - who I presume are trying to get Clinton voters to go with Obama - who only continue to hurl insults, cackle victoriously, and throw out financial figures as though the winner should be the biggest fundraiser (who still can't seal the deal).

The LA Times is reporting that Hillary Clinton is nearly $31 million in debt. The news comes off a release from her campaign Tuesday night that she has raised $22 million:

No wonder Sen. Hillary Clinton was so late filing her required campaign financial reports Tuesday night. Her political team didn't want the shocking news in it to overshadow her lopsided thumping of Sen. Barack Obama in Kentucky.

Now comes the morning after, pay-up time. Clinton's campaign debt has now soared to nearly $31 million, according to numbers crunched early this morning by The Times' campaign finance guru, Dan Morain.

Noway Obama,

Please prove to me that it is not over.

Let me know how Senator Clinton can still win (with or without the SDs).

Try to be realistic my dear.

IT IS OVER. I AM A CLINTON SUPPORTER AND PARTY ACTIVIST. MY CANDIDATE LOST. AS A TRUE DEMOCRAT I WILL SUPPORT THE PARTY NOMINEE AND UNIFY THE PARTY.

As I said however, if you want to be a RepubLoser and vote for SSGM (Semi Senile Grandpa MacCain), be my guest.

It is a free country.

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., hauled in $31.9 million in April (including $600,000 for the general election) to continue his battle for the Democratic nomination against Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, ABC news was first to report tonight. Obama out-raised Clinton -- who raised close to $22 million -- by almost $10 million.

Two hundred thousand new donors joined Obama's effort last month.

Obama has an mighty $37.3 million on hand with $9.2 million tucked away for the general election.

Here's the full breakdown via the Obama campaign:

By the numbers....

New donors in April: 200,000

94% of contributions were under $200

93% of contributions were $100 or less

77% of contributions were $50 or less

52% of contributions were $25 or less

Number of donors to the Obama campaign overall at the end of April: 1.475 million

Number of contributions given: 2,929,000 million

Average donation: $91

Amount raised in April: $31.3 million (plus an additional $600,000 for the general election)

Cash on Hand: $37.3 million (plus an additional $9.2 million for the general election)

You Obama supporters have thrown everything you could at Hillary and Bill. You have used Race and lies to attack Hillary. You have belittled her and her supporters and NOW you think for one second that we will vote for a MEDIA created FAKE like Obama. NEVER!

If the only choice we have is Obama or McCain than we will VOTE for McCain. We will never forget how Bill and Hillary were treated and now you and Obama complain about how his wife is treated!

Hillary 2008 IF NOT THAN McCain 2008
YES WE WILL!

i dont think there will be any defection from obama, and more then logically most remaining supers are waiting to make their move after june 3

they are doing so because hillary wants to stay in the race.

Why is she staying in the race if she is losing, and has lost

she must get almost 100% of the remaining delegates and then 80% of the remaining super D's

there are 200 something left

115 of those are in states and counties obama has won

trust me its way over, its been way over, hillary just doesnt want to quit

she wants to continually try to change what it means to win

obama has won by the rules

clinton has tried to change the rules over and over again

even her popular vote theory only counts if you DONT count every vote

obama should get votes from the votes that were billed as OTHER in michigan, and the votes in caucus states should be counted then

if FL and MI are recognized. Her goal is to keep the race close and hope for delegate defections. It's a very sound strategy. Bad for the party, but flawlessly logical.
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That's a BIG IF, that's not gonna happen. She is get 69 in MI, he will get 59, a net gain of 10 for HRC. Not going to help. The popular vote in MI will not be counted as his name was not on the ballot. The DNC has telegraphed in no uncertain terms what it plans to do on the 31st. She will not be happy, but it is fair and she AGREED to the Rules in advance.

As for the "bad for the Party, but flawless logic", that is just amazingly arrogant. Tear the Party apart on the slim chance that she gets a defector or two? So it's all about ME ME ME!!

Kinda reminds me of Bill Clinton's logic, "Bad for the marriage, but good for my groin".

And you want these people running this country?

Clinton Supporters,

It's Over.

Senator Obama has won the majority of ELECTED DELEGATES.

Were it not for the stupid SDs we will not even be discussing this anymore.

Yes, if you even penalize FL and MI by 50% and assign the MI Uncommitted to Senator Obama, Senator Clinton still loses.

So my dear Hillary Supporters, it is OVER.

Let us all join hands and support the Democratic nominee as TRUE DEMOCRATS would do.

However if you want to be a RepubLoser and vote for SSGM (Semi Senile Grandpa MacCain), be my guest. It is a free country.